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use your willpower to train your brain to stop being an faggot. start ideating about being a normal guy and fantasizing about living a normal life. whenever you think your thoughts put effort into thinking in a lower octave or whatever, do this by overwriting the thought you just had with a new one in a lower tone until it becomes automatic .otherwise basically just do all the shit you did as a kid but with a different desired outcome in mind
№97831[Quote]
I had similar fantasies and familial circumstances as yours, but in relation to fantasies they were not related to ralsei, deltarune, furries, etc.
What worked for me is becoming religious and generally look at the example of what did the object of worship would do.
If I'd be explicit, in my case I became a Christian, and looked at the example of Jesus Christ, who both were gentle with people who wronged him, but wasn't a doormat either and was firm.
Though, religion isn't the only way, but it's a VERY good one. You aren't being forced into being religious to solve this. It's just something that worked for me because God was my own example of how a man should act.
Masculinity isn't about being a buff nigger who rapes and kills everyone who says mean things about you, and Masculinity isn't about pampering to everyone's wishes either. It's about a balance between being tender and gentle when you have to be like this, and being strong and protective when you have to be that.
Don't be pantied and sissified basically, if you're not going to be religious, just don't be pantied and sissified like ralsei is.
Put effort into developing masculine hobbies if you like any. I like blacksmithing for example, if you like tinkering, craftsmanship, or even farming - Give it a try.
Be patient, be unbothered.
Don't be soy.
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>>97831I do want to clarify I have avoided deltarune and any kind of "soy" media in general for a long time while I was trying to fix this problem alone however I realized I should start seeking help when I had a dream where I woke up older with chest hair and a more masculine build and I felt a very deep depressing sense of loss and grief during it. Loss of youth for some reason really terrifies me and each passing year I keep getting the urge to just kill myself so I don't ever have to be old and ugly.
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>>97829So what your saying is I should start manually thinking out the words with a normal voice to overwrite the squeaky one?
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>>97834yeah. just repeat your thoughts in the desired voice as soon as you have them, and identify yourself with the new voice instead of the old one
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>>97833I didn't want to be masculine physically, as in appearance.
Very similarly to you, I actually wanted to look like a young man without facial hair, or chest hair, or really anything.
You have to look at masculinity as something that isn't related to being pretty. A man doesn't have to look pretty, because A man's masculinity and value isn't determined by his appearance, but by his works.
You can stay skinny, you can become buff.
You can be hairy old wizard-looking man, or you can be hairless. Really, it's up to you, but you should eventually accept the fact that you cannot stay young forever, and eventually more feminine features will fade away as you become old, and it's okay, in fact,
That's good.At first it may be difficult, and you'll probably struggle with the same suicidal thoughts, but you shouldn't kill yourself, because suicide doesn't lead to you being more of a man, it doesn't lead to better future, and it doesn't fix your problems.
It hurt a bit when I thought of that, I had same thoughts, but I grew accustomed, and even decided to grow a 'stache once I get a chance to. Find what you'd like to stick to, and what'd you find fashionable, not attractive to yourself.
Don't look at yourself like you'd look at a woman, you don't have to look attractive to yourself like a woman would seem attractive to you, You're a man. №97839[Quote]
>>97837Yeah I understand what your getting at, the hard part however is like I said that im having to work against what I was sort of "taught". Because of circumstances growing up I developed a notion of the normal male form as "gross" and then I had those insane suicide delusions of getting whisked off to fantasyland in my teen years. So the two things merged into a sort of intrusive thing in the back of my head saying I'll be missing my chance or whatever anytime I try to be more normal.
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>>97840>>97839And so were I, I was taught that masculinity iz le evil and le bad and le yucky, both by myself and other people when I was a caca.
In terms of lovey-dovey relationships, it's a separate topic.
Men should be loving towards their wives, but they should be the head of the home.
It's all going to be okay. Don't worry, just take your time and become a buff gray man. If there's anything that you need help with, maybe reach out here and there'll be someone else who'd be willing to give a tip or two.
It will take time, and it will be difficult, but you'll go through this.
>arrow because I am not a caca №97842[Quote]
>>97841The biggest issues:
1 I basically sort of "relapse" into the headspace I was at as a teenager sometimes, I can have a good solid month or so of adopting a more sane and functional mindset but then something happens like the dream I mentioned or I have a negative interaction with someone, and I wind up getting back the notion Im "just not meant to be a normal guy" because my mind just automatically defaults to seeing myself as the tiny squeaky voiced bitch boy, part of my fear with age is my mind sees my young and frail self as "me" and so aging or growing into a normal guy feels like "death" to it.
2:I feel sort of "Separate" from the normal reality of being a man, I have been isolated for a long time and so the normal course of life where a boy grows into a man gets strong finds a wife gets a house and dies a grandpa, is just sort of "alien" to me, I never really had any idea for how things would "end", my mind just kind of has expected life for me to be like a cartoon sitcom where the character never ages or progresses in life, so you can see how my mind had a easier time accepting the crazy delusion of offing myself to go off to fantasyland than it does accepting the idea of growing into a normal guy.
Hopefully I can just kill off this weird part of me/
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>>97842progress is not a straight shot. it is more like the winding path up a mountain, and relapses are natural. as long as you don't stop fighting you will never truly be as low as you were before, because even in your weakness you have the strength to keep climbing, a strength you couldn't even conceive of previously.
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>>97828 (OP)I can't relate to the furryshit but yeah, I do not enjoy masculinity. I enjoy being a man but I hate all the traditional things associated with it. I hate our fashion, with the drab fashion, and being hairy. I don't mind being stoic but I would prefer to be more expressive. I want to wear all sorts of colors and outfits, I want to be expressive and bubbly like I am deep down. I don't understand why it's stigmatized for men to do that. I hate that I have to conform to all of this stupid bullshit for people to respect me, to be attracted to me, to not hurt me.
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>>97828 (OP)i was able to fix this within myself by hyperfixating on masculinity instead of femininity. im prone to psychoindoctrinating myself to achieve goals so making the switch was based on convincing myself that masculinity was more desirable and once i did it became a matter of time
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>>97828 (OP)some advices for you.
1. get rid of porn addiction and deworm (if you have an addiction).
<2. remove as much toby fox furry troonslop from your daily media feed as possible.
<3. try some new hobbies. it doesn't have to be ultra manly like
cutting nigger heads off with chainsaw, anything practical/done with your hands will do.
<4. imagine how would your face look when you become old and just accept it. don't get sad, gigaold looks great and handsome for example. you misinterpret what male beauty is because you were mindraped by all that cute troonslop.
<5. socialise more with male groups, and it includes sharty. one of things I like is that men can laugh at things to which soyciety would demand a fully different reaction. (not to failtroll degree doe)
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>>97881See whenever I think about furries for more than two seconds my mind immediately goes to those bodily issues. I start thinking about bad dog breath or smelly furry that animals actually have, so I'm grossed out by it. I guess it'd be nice to be a cute furry thing but I can't suspend my disbelief with it. But yeah hopefully one day the world will be kinder to men like us. Again I like being male, but sometimes I wonder if my life would be easier if I were female, because I could behave in the ways I'd like to without as much pushback.
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>>97956I have the first 3 things down
I tried to do number 4 but that one dream I had fucked me up and kinda reset my progress and like I said my brain for some reason is just hardwired to see myself as this squeaky voiced "bitch boy" I pictured myself as for a long time so its hard to make it realize im not actually that.
I do try number 5 but its always tricky making friends
I had one social thing I was a part of but I had a awkward moment due to my own sensitivity so I wound up leaving it and that kind of reset my progress since I had been working towards a more masculine reality accepting mindset but after losing the social thing because I was too sensitive to fit in I got the notion I should just stop trying to be normal for a while.
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try the Robert Plant method. dress like a faggot while still not being one
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>>98017Yea I probably wouldnt go too far with dressing up as a women with makeup and shit. The most I would probably do was get a more feminine haircut as my family would lose their shit if they saw me with a dress or something. If I was white and had a family that didnt care I might have gone all out but its just some food for thought for me.
As for the fantasy stuff, do you mean like dreaming/day dreaming about being in a happy world where you can be feminine? I have stuff like that alot
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>OHH NOES, I'm not a 6 ft tall giganigga and I got no father figure!
Just enter an amateur football league, cracker. Do any sport that isn't 'murican muttball or rugby honestly.
>Bu- Bu- Bu- But I'm not athletic and manly.
Professional sports, especially football were never that masculine, really. Some of the best football players of all time were kind of flamboyant and not even physically intimidating. Pelé was 5'8, Landon Donovan is 5'8, Maradona was 5'5', Messi is 5'7, Garrincha barely even cracked 5'7, Hugo Sánchez looked as if he had just walked out of a gaybar, and Mbappe is a chaser, you get the point. You don't need to be a roidbeast to move your ass around a field or a speeding track.
>Inner voices that aren't yours
Just try to speak more often, I've also had this problem and I got over it by just humming and reading aloud whatever I read.
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>>97982try to join a hang out with guys from your college/uni/work group etc. you somewhat know each other so it'll be easier than making friends with unknown people. maybe you'll join a friend circle that way.
what is that sensitivity issue? if you feel offended just don't show it, most times it's razzing each other as a joke. "if you remain unbothered you're our guy" sort of thing
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>>98066 №98139[Quote]
>wants to stop being a fag
>keeps avatarfagging as deltatroon
yup, issa w bait
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>>98139Yeah I guess I shouldn't have done that but you know I needed to provide a visual of what things I had in mind.
This art here however depicts the kind of "ideal" im trying to get my mind to accept instead of the furry stuff:
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You need to ACK NOW.
If you want to stop being a fag, a good start would be to delete your folder of deltatroon brim and moder or whatever. Every time i go on /r9k/ theres another shitty image. Stop idealising a fictional, nonhuman character as a role model, and try to live in reality. Go do things that will increase your testosterone levels, like eating red meat and doing exercise. Join a sports group to surround yourself with men that arent spineless faggots that sit at a computer all day. Youll find yourself getting mogged by them in many ways and you should make an effort to close the gap.
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>>98127Genuinely correct advice if you have a normal way of releasing it later. If you go on a run for a couple kilometres its like a reset for your brain and will get rid of the buildup. Better than sitting around wallowing in your misery all the time
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>>98132I was gonna give you advice and tell you that you need to cut out the troonery but I am mentally insane and want to be a cartoon character so I feel like a pot calling a kettle black
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>>98162I never had a folder of that stuff until I started seeking help since I needed images to convey what I am speaking about + kind of easily differentiate between whats me and whats someone else, so I wanted to prevent that by having images tied to my subject matter, which I guess didn't work since you still confused me and the black guy posting boymoder slop as the same person.
I might be a furry but I'd never even ironically dabble in that sort of thing.
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>>98162I actually for a long time have been focusing on masculine things and I have had good masculine role models, but I had this dream semi recently where I saw myself as a normal muscular guy with chest hair in his middle years and I genuinely wanted to cry when I woke up, I remember waking in my bed thinking "No no I don't want that!"
and so it basically reset me back to my teenage headspace bear in mind I literally was doing everything in my power to be more masculine and was reading self improvement books and everything, but that dream happened and the thoughts and feelings I had since it happened showed me I clearly need to do something beyond just acting masculine if I want to not be a suicidal furry.
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>>98132>when did the furry stuff start? I mean no offence im just interested.Kind of since forever I have had a thing for angsty cartoon animals as a sort of catharsis and for some reason always had a interest in the idea of someone being turned into a cartoon animal character, I don't know where it came from exactly, Because of how bad my mental and life state has been I very often fantasized and daydreamt about these sort of things im into to comfort me since I get this warm fuzzy feeling inside when I imagine being an or interacting with an cartoon animal character, it feels like my brain is being wrapped in a blanket.
I don't remember exactly when I became a "furry" I guess I always counted as one if you take my prior interests at one point I had a sort of internal conflict over being a furry but the part that wanted to be normal lost because I got sort of "doomed" when I became a teenager as now I had my usual comfort fantasy of being turned into a cute and innocent animal character, using Deltarune and some furry media as a outlet for my emotional state, and then things like zootopia (they knew what they were fucking doing designing Judy like that) also made it so I if I comforted myself by thinking about girls and romance like a boy often does I basically always pictured a anthro animal girl instead of a actual human woman (hmofa romance does tug at my heartstrings thoever), I've been trying to undo this for a long while but even now if I daydream about a romance story or imagine something like going out on a date my brain just defaults to imagining an anthro animal girl, its bad but hey atleast I managed to avoid being gay. I basically have had furryism hard baked into my psyche since childhood, and as you'd expect this overlapped with the feminine mindset issue and wanting to be pretty thus things like self inserting as Ralsei.
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Have you tried stopping cooming?
№98187[Quote]
>>98161this guy is not really "ideal" man, he looks kind of malnourished. try to be more gradual with accepting masculinity, maybe it will help
>>98172I think that aside from bad mental state you have parasites which make you attracted to furries since childhood and give these weird thoughts. for instance I always percieve furries as animals and they never arouse me even if it was intended by the artist.
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>>98187>parasitesYou niggas will come up with the most crazy excuses holy shit
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if youre not poor and in a first world country get therapy nigga
№98219[Quote]
>>98187See for me thats why the guy in the painting is a good "ideal" image since he's just a guy, malnourished and addicted to cigs, but he's living in reality and not obsessing over cartoon animals.
>I think that aside from bad mental state you have parasites which make you attracted to furries since childhood and give these weird thoughts. for instance I always percieve furries as animals and they never arouse me even if it was intended by the artist.I don't know what it is but I just feel this warm sensation all over whenever I see anthro characters, picturing myself as one of the cutesy male ones makes me feel happy and "pretty" and the female ones make me feel things that real woman don't seem to trigger in me, I get this weird sort of intoxicated sensation, so maybe your right and I have some weird external thing.
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Talking about this is kind of a doubled edged sword because I both make progress but also wind up giving in to the urges alot more since it takes presence in my mind
№98238[Quote]
laugh at the problem, and be self aware because it is pretty ridiculous. It won't solve it on it's own but dodis to maybe help
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>>98238Im aware of how retarded it is to have a mental crisis because of cartoon animals but man… its a oddly serious problem when your the one actually suffering from it
№98251[Quote]
self-inserting as furfag cartoon characters on the soyjak website is bad enough let alone self-inserting as them in your own mind
№98257[Quote]
>>98251Hence why im trying to get out of doing that.
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>>98219>I don't know what it is but I just feel this warm sensation all over whenever I see anthro characters, picturing myself as one of the cutesy male ones makes me feel happy and "pretty" and the female ones make me feel things that real woman don't seem to trigger in me, I get this weird sort of intoxicated sensationYES that's the thing, you described it precisely. I had this tickling warm sensation in my stomach, faster arhythmic heart beat and heavy breathing when I was viewing fetish content before I dewormed myself. after that it was gone and I stopped feeling it at all
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>>98257Have you tried replacing your furry folders with giga folders when you select a file to post?
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>>98262Holy shit, tell me more and how you got the worms out.
№98453[Quote]
>>98262Did you also feel a kind of pain relief? A common contributor to the problem for me was discomfort or physical pain would go away while I engaged with the stuff as part of the warm sensation I'd get
№98457[Quote]
>>98451first I killed part of worms unintentionally and addiction somehow became weaker, then found parasite pill pdf and dewormed fully.
here it is
>>93852>>98453I didn't end up having pain and that sensation at same time so idk. but if I got over-excited with this sensation (like getting a very strong arousal o algo) my heart started doing weird shit and I felt like I was slowly suffocating/having a heart attack/starting to faint idk but it was pleasant instead of uncomfortable.
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>>98457What pdf do you mean also?
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>>98555this one, it's in docdroid link there
soyjakwiki.org/SNCA:Parasite_Pill
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bvmo because this interests me
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>>98589This would make some sense especially since I was outright suicidal when I was totally consumed by this stuff and not fighting against it and it mentions how worms make the host destroy themselves to spread.
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>>98613Thank you. I think im on the road to making real progress on this since prior I was kind of stuck in a loop of silently struggling with this and then kind of "relapsing" after a negative incident, but having extra input on things has helped like the idea to manually sound out thoughts so I hear them in a normal voice and not the cartoon animal voice my mind defaults to.
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>>98895that recurring dreams thing sounds disturbing. I seldom had some which included my fetishes but these weren't wet doe. they were different from each other and they didn't revert my disgust in any way.
>it kind of feels like someone or something WANTS me to be like this.I had similar feeling, especially during nut clarity. as if I was possessed when lusting over stuff. your case seems interesting in aspect that it's close to trannyism but without outright lustful things
<how often do you think about this character?<do you have Ralsei on wallpapers/avatar/etc?<how did the idea of Ralsei being male affix inside your mind? when I see this character my brain says "I'm sure this is a female" №98968[Quote]
>>98927>your case seems interesting in aspect that it's close to trannyism but without outright lustful thingsIt is in this weird middleground where its not so much sexual as it is a strange combo of melancholy with a warm feeling
>how often do you think about this character?>do you have Ralsei on wallpapers/avatar/etc?Ralsei specifically is kind of off and on, I use him heavily when I speak about this issue because he is kind of "ground zero" for me, if I hadn't had this fantasy of waking up in castle town I probably wouldn't have this issue as bad, he's kind of the best "symbol" for my issue, but I have kind of hopped from character to character I was for a while obsessed with Rambley from Indigo park for example but I think consistently Ralsei is the one character that always pops in my mind one way or another when I get into that headspace.
>how did the idea of Ralsei being male affix inside your mind? when I see this character my brain says "I'm sure this is a female"Well he is male, I basically always had this weird complex because I was insecure about how "girly" I was growing up but also thought it was funny to do things that'd point this out so I have always had this weird tug of war of knowing I SHOULD be strong and accept reality but my "identity" is tied to the whole "Male but weak and sensitive" thing and so becoming stronger or aging gets registered by my mind as losing my sense of self plus the aforementioned delusion of "Oh no you don't want to get old do you? Better -ACK to go be in fantasyland" that creeps in.
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>>98968>draw a completely female-looking character>heavy emphasis that it's a maleyeah it's toby cucks troonery propaganda. extremely harmful.
looking weak and sensitive and having such personality are different things. the second does not oblige you to look feminine. I'd say masculinity is not about chugging beer, getting into fights, liking football etc but about standing up for yourself and others and preserving your dignity. it contradicts the "weak" trait a bit but it's based on psychological strength and charisma. so you can still show masculinity if you're physically weak. and it isn't an opposite of kindness as you may think.
more questions
<at what age did you play undertale and deltatroon?<do you speak out in small but annoying situations? (someone cuts in a line, ignores you etc) if not try to do that more often<is your "being cute and sensitive" obsession focused more on appearance or personality?>how "girly" I was growing up<can you tell more about this? №99129[Quote]
>>99064>draw a completely female-looking character>heavy emphasis that it's a maleYeah see I think most people they have their brain set to understand "feminine image = female masculine image = male" but because I was around this sort of thing so young I kind of developed a third understanding so my mind very easily is able to process "feminine image = male" which is hard to explain.
I guess also theres how with women they can call things cute regardless of its sex but with men theres a expectation that he can only appreciate things in a sexual way so if he looks at like this image of a male character he "must be gay" when for me I just can look at this image and either go "Oh thats a nice design" or go "Oh I'd like to be that pretty" etc and not really feel any kind of sexual emotion
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>>99064<do you speak out in small but annoying situations? (someone cuts in a line, ignores you etc) if not try to do that more oftenSee irl im not feminine, I purposely sabotaged any future attempts at being feminine by associating with edgy things so the one and only time I genuinely considered playing dressup I couldn't actually commit to it because the whole time I just had the thought of how embarrassing it'd be to be found out since it'd be seen as some freudian projection thing by people I know
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>>99129a man calling this pic cute isn't gay since this is "cute" artstyle objectively. obsessing over such arts can be percieved as gay doe
>Oh thats a nice designsaying this isn't that faggy
>Oh I'd like to be that prettybut saying this is. yonkagor is a troon btw
>>99132so it developed because of prior trauma. what was the thing that made you suicidal? maybe by solving it you'll stop wishing to be feminine
>>99133dressup publicly? this idea is really bad, good that you stopped
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>>99151I wanna clarify both that I know yonkagor is literally an esl jarty troon but his characters are designed like males and have male voices and are all canonically "genderless" so I just apply the logic I do to Kris and see it as a male design Sea Drive for example is just wearing shorts and a employee shirt and has a male voice and clownfish is designed like a male circus performer but to be honest I probably wouldn't post Yonkagor normally since doing so kind of gives off some bad implications and I don't really care too much for his songs beyond the ones about suicide but his designs basically fit the mental image I have in mind if im fantasizing.
im very autistic about what kind of cartoon animal I'd wanna be stuck in wonderland as although I kind of go through phases where I latch onto a specific species or design for a while I always revert to the idea of something with white fur with some kind of accent colors and its hard to find examples of what I mean when I describe this without it being some literal fetish material. Yonk's saving grace is he doesn't make his characters to goon to
Also I want to say that I never meant to publicly "Play dressup" but I knew in my heart somehow it'd eventually be brought to light regardless of how private I kept I just sensed it'd come out somehow. Sometimes I say things not really out of my volition like if someone else spoke through my mouth and I knew that I would probably confess because of that or get caught in the act somehow so I just didn't do it.
btw if anyone is lurking this thread and had a similar problem to me, one good trick is staring at yourself in the mirror so you see your natural features closely it helps alot with subdueing urges to uh… "play dressup"
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>>99064
<is your "being cute and sensitive" obsession focused more on appearance or personality? Both and it originates from a mix of factors. I was insecure about being weak and sensitive I had a rough start in life from lot of autistic meltdowns that still happen sometimes to this day so the idea of just being a gentle harmless little thing that'd never ever so much as hurt a fly and never has to worry about anything is obviously appealing to someone who both hates his life and self and as a teenager I kind of "was" that I would go out of my way to appear "soft and gentle" and would do things that… God I really don't want to fucking say this word but they would "Affirm" the self image I had in my head (fucking kill me) and would subdue my natural spergout tendencies to the best of my abilities
I however "Lost" this aspect of myself as when things started getting really bad I basically shifted into a edgelord persona I crafted because I was getting sick of the contradictory nature I was in and also feared taking things too far and becoming a crossdresser and while I did save myself from the soul breaking shame I would've felt if I actually went and played dressup, I miss that previous time of my life since it was easier and I was more liked but I definitely can't ever revert back to that time since for the people who know me irl it'd be be like if Sam Hyde unironically announced he listens to Yonkagor and is now going to be a pastel soft boy who makes Deltarune theories.
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>>97828 (OP)Very late to this thread, but the best thing you can do is make real life better than any fantasy. A world without pain and suffering is, in itself, suffering. Nothing ever changes in those fictional worlds because nothing has to change. Yeah it's nice when everything is nice, but then it becomes monotonous. It's hard to imagine it when you only see the idealized version of it, but if you woke up to what is essentially groundhog day of positivity you'd want to escape eventually.
<redditI think this may all be caused by the fact that something horrible happened in your life, and instead of letting it wash over you, you escape it. While this is fine to do for a short amount of time, prolonging it ends up with serious mental issues like DID, because the brain cannot cope with trauma all on its own.
Real life forces you to change all the time, and is never stable, but that means that you can nudge your life in a better direction and end up in a good position. Not perfect, nothing's perfect, but good and stable enough to live with and do something in.
And lastly, why not pursue art as a hobby? It's not a well-paying industry, but it is a good way to express yourself. Best part is, you can do it however you like. You can draw, sculpt or make music, it's all up to you. It doesn't have to be perfect because it's yours, and if you want, you can improve upon it.
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You should consider deworming.
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>>99169Another option is water with baking soda before bed IIRC. Why do you have so many pics of Ralsei, if I may ask?
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>>99166I'd learn to draw but my adhd ass just genuinely can't just sit still and im just so embarrassed by it I can't bring myself to struggle through making toddler drawings
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>>97828 (OP)I haven't read the other replies in this thread so forgive me if this reply is derivative.
I deeply empathise with you, and I commend you for your high level of self awareness. You are both aware of your issue, and have identified the root of the issue. This is the largest and most difficult step. I would encourage you to cling to the words you have said in this post, do not let anyone make you doubt them.
I wish I could add you on discord or something and offer you some mentorship, however I don't think that is viable on this type of site so I will instead lay out simple (not easy, but simple) and potent steps that, if followed, will resolve this issue for you:
I will first explain how these steps will help you; You are the result of all of the little actions/choices/patterns you live out every single day. Your issue is one of identity, you adopted maladaptive behaviours due to the discomfort of your surroundings, you spent years doing these actions (watching shows, isolating yourself, not working out, etc…) and eventually, these actions culminated to an identity. It's just like laying one brick on top of anther. A single instance of doing so may seem insignificant, but if repeated a few hundred times, you have now constructed an entire house, one that you must now live in. Likewise, you, through small repetitions of these "weird autistic" behaviours, have constructed your current identity.
Your brain keeps track of these things. This is why you "know" that your perception and sense of self is indeed warped, but you still "feel" like these things are somehow true. The "knowing" is you being in touch with reality, the "feeling" is your brain keeping score of the bricks of have layed.
I say this not to discourage you, but to encourage you. Because, regardless of how you feel, all you must do is adopt new behaviours, make them habitual, and gradually your sense of self WILL change to fit these new behaviours. These are ones that YOU will choose now, instead of adopting them out of fear or autism or whatever.
If you begin to do these things daily/weekly, it will cure you and make you into a "normal guy":
>lift weights>eat at least 2 portions of fruit per day>Eat at least once source of healthy fat per day (nuts, olive oil, fatty fish)These are extremely important, mainly for the sake of your hormones. As a man, if you are malnourished and sedentary, your body is guaranteed to stop producing a healthy amount of testosterone. Having low T will make you feel like a weak, emotionally unstable pansy and not a "normal guy". Lifting weights will save your life, if you don't have access to a gym, commit yourself to regular bodyweight exercise.
>Read some pages of one book per day, preferably fiction. I don't care what this is, as long as it is something that you think is cool and not some weird autistic shit. Read beowolf, asoif, a random sci fi novel, anything. Just make sure it's something you enjoy, and something that a "normal guy" would read. You need to change your mental diet as well as your physical one. Your current identity is based on consuming a certain kind of fiction; Your head is full of stories of these childish characters. Replace these with better ones. There is absolutely nothing wrong with consuming fiction. I recommend jack vance's "tschai" sci fi series if you don't know where to start.
>throw away physical items that remind you of these characters and replace themYou must change your surroundings to reflect your desired mental state. Replace any plushies, badges, pins etc of these characters with literally anything else. Whether it is more mature fiction, or a random fucking rock you find outside, just get rid of it.
>delete all the files off of your computerself explanatory, remove all the folders, pics etc of you have saved. Blocking web access will come later, for now, just focus on removing the actual files
>go outside dailySunlight is crucial for healthy hormones. Try to find a place, and activity, a person, literally ANYTHING you enjoy while being outside. Being inside all day will make you retarded.
I am a personal trainer, if you want, and if you read this entire message and truly wish to start exercising but don't know how, I will add you on discord and give you training advice (for free, obviously). I believe in you and I want to see you win, also, Jesus loves you.
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deltarune warns exactly about this btw
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>>99170I have one that doesn't burn but I need to test it out more. I'd do baking soda but I have a sort of allergic reaction to it.
>Why do you have so many pics of Ralsei, if I may ask?I had 0 before I started opening up about this issue. Since I needed to convey the sort of headspace/mental images I started using Ralsei and Yonkagor characters.
Ralsei in particular I just have a odd connection with. Teenage me really related to him and saw myself in him and wanted to live in his big comfy castle town, and so anytime I get into this headspace I usually think of him in some way, I remember seeing a thing on reddit where Ralsei is called a pretty boy as a joke by Susie but he asks her to say it again and again because he likes hearing it and I projected myself onto him in that and so that image basically pops into my head everytime I think of this
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>>99173I am on a Chris Chan level of autism unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if I found out my mom smoked when she was pregnant.
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>>99175nah you can't be autistic like him, he's on another level trust me
i guess you just need some time to figure out yourself properly
maybe you just need someone that properly cares about you idk
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>>99172I guess I could make a stoat account maybe? I don't use Discord because they don't let you make an account without a bunch of personal info given and I already am using a bunch of privacy stuff on a anonymous forum to discuss any of this. See the hard thing is I have to kind of have a "turning point" mentally to do a change in life. I stop cooming by spending hours and hours listening to self control audiobooks. but I can never get myself to commit to the masculine bit, I tried but I had this dream where I awoke as a muscular and maculine older version of myself and I felt a deep painful sense of grief and loss during and after the dream. if I see a middle aged or old man I tend to get a feeling of dread and fear knowing Im eventually going to be old and not ever have a chance to be "pretty" and also… this is embarrassing to admit but part of me deep down does want to uh "play dressup" and obviously if I stopped weighing as much as a dnb I wouldn't be able to "pull it off", completely delusional borderline troon behaviour I know but the tism makes me feel a fomo feeling thats enough to block me from moving past it. That and this weird idea if I get whisked away to fantasyland I need to look the pat
Also because its hard to get past the self image problem.
I have followed basically all your advice actually except the weights part due to aforementioned issue.
However I do eat healthy, I have hobbies, I purged all of the deltarune and other troonslop stuff from my pc and irl space literally years ago I only now have images in a folder I just use for these threads as calling cards/conveying my points, I do try to go outside regularly, I do read sometimes (I have SEVERE adhd so its hard) and I for literal years basically have avoided feminine media.
Yet I just can't get this out of my brain because its my "default" mode of operating even right now typing this out I don't even hear my actual voice from these words but the squeaky fursona voice my head likes.
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>>99176I don't think teenage me's insane "Kill yourself to become a furry" is that far off from the dimensional merge in terms of autism although teenage me atleast had some kind of logic of it being purgatory or something as opposed to chris saying sonic is a god and real
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>>99177Lifting weights is literally the most crucial part of the equation. Like I said, if you don't want to go to a gym jut do bodyweight exercises daily. Anyone can do some pushups to failure
>self help booksSelf help books are okay, but in my experience as someone who was in your shoes, as well as my own observations, self help and "masculinity" books are somewhat ineffective in actually promoting real change. They are basically just mental masturbation. Reading actual stories (whether real or fictional) that speak to and move you on a real level will help you a lot more. Furthermore, self help books can be quite boring whereas fiction is exciting and fun. I'm just saying maybe reading Lord of the Rings and getting attached to samwise or aragorn instead of troonslop characters will do a lot for these feelings of yours. Stories are powerful, thats why you are so attached to these troonslop characters and having troonslop thoughts in your head.
I am a very traditional and masculine man, I do not condone being effeminate or homo. However, you do not have to be some big fat ugly hairy guy, you can be a pretty man. Look at guys like legolas or jamie lannister. Would you be afraid of being like that? Is there a SINGLE straight man, real or fictional, that you wouldn't mind looking like? Do you want a family? Do you want to feel a woman you love resting her head on your chest as you carry her to bed? Do you want to be full of energy and strength? You need to cling to these ideals, or whatever HEALTHY ideals still linger in your mind. You ARE a man. Being a man is a good, beautiful thing. Your brain has false associations with being male, you need to ignore these and create some positive associations of your own like the ones I just listed.
You can either take my advice or leave it, either you wanna be a vital, healthy, well adjusted human or you give into your internet-induced autism dysphoria and wallow in nothingness for decades before realising on your deathbed that you could've had a better life.
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>>99171>I'd learn to draw but my adhd ass just genuinely can't just sit still and im just so embarrassed by it I can't bring myself to struggle through making toddler drawingsMaybe music would be better for you? Getting yourself an instrument, even a cheap one, and just playing it is way better than doing nothing. I'd suggest drumming, considering you ADHD, but I am not an expert on ADHD in particular.
>>99174>Ralsei in particular I just have a odd connection with. Teenage me really related to him and saw myself in him and wanted to live in his big comfy castle town, and so anytime I get into this headspace I usually think of him in some way, I remember seeing a thing on reddit where Ralsei is called a pretty boy as a joke by Susie but he asks her to say it again and again because he likes hearing it and I projected myself onto him in that and so that image basically pops into my head everytime I think of thisAs I said, you need to make reality better than fiction. You can't live in a big ass castle, but you can live in a cozy cottage in some secluded town and play the flute like a little gnome. The point is to make life so great that no story will ever compete with it. I'm not saying to achieve a fuck ton in your life, but to be content enough that fiction will seem boring in comparison.
As for the "pretty boy" thing, this is more due to how modern leftists portray people who don't align with gender norms. If you're sensitive and empathetic as a guy, you should be a gay submissive twink who has no thoughts of his own besides "yes daddy". This is a REALLY dangerous rabbit hole to go down to, as it can expose you to all sorts of degeneracy. All of this to say that this line of thinking is a slippery slope designed to indoctrinate people.
Schizo rant aside, maybe use your sensitive nature for good? Maybe work with animals or do something to make people feel better. I like /r9k/ because I can try to understand people and help them with their problems, maybe it's the same for you.
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>>99163these two look like usual caca cartoon male characters with a touch of furry brimstone. the one in skirt you posted previously is actual problem. you should somehow persuade yourself that skirts and dresses are female clothing ONLY.
>one good trick is staring at yourself in the mirrortrannies hate doing that geg
>>99164well being an edgelord is better than a crossdresser
I still want to know about that horrible thing which made you suicidal. was it classic rage and sperg out - get rejected - get anxious?
>>99169I recognize this burning bitterness, animal dewormers usually taste like that. I just place it far onto my tongue, swallow it instantly and wash away bitterness with plenty of water and something sweet. recently I started to like its smell and aftertaste, maybe because it saved me from being a degen gooner
did you count the dosage right?
>>99170did you try it? I'm a dewormschizo too but never tried soda, for me it seems too common and simple to kill parasites
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>>99180I basically already do what you mentioned with the different fiction I have a few characters and historical figures I sometimes will "sock puppet" in my head to ward off the furfag thoughts, keep in mind when I say furfag I just mean furry, im not gay I know because I saw Zootopia during puberty and Judy had me feeling things man is not supposed to feel towards rabbits.
In regards to the bit about tyrion or whatever, see again the thing to remember is the furry/drawing obsession is kind of the main source, I can avoid all furry content all troonslop etc, for a solid MONTH and inevitably something "resets" my mind, I can be consuming normal stuff aimed at normal guys and then I catch a glimpse of a deltarune meme with ralsei and its basically like that one scene in akira where I feel like its clawing into my mind. I can't really interact with any kind of feminine energy without it hurting me and sending me into this suicidal cartoon autist headspace the fantasy is generally less myself as pretty and more specifically this insane fantasyland idea
You have to understand also my brain literally sees and hears myself as these things so its hard to get out of, yeah I can manually sound out my thoughts in a normal voice but every casual thought is through this lense, imagine if you when writing that message to me heard a squeaky voice inplace of your own and anytime you envision yourself doing something you see yourself as something your not.
> or you give into your internet-induced autism dysphoria and wallow in nothingness for decades before realizing on your deathbed that you could've had a better life.I mean I have 3 plans for life and 2 involve a noose I really only see myself dying of natural causes in a world where I managed to basically erase this retardation from myself
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>>99180why did you mention fruit and healthy fat but not proteins and meat in general? are they unnecessary in T production?
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>>99188>I saw Zootopia during puberty and Judy had me feeling things man is not supposed to feel towards rabbitsdo you goon to female furries?
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>>99186>did you try it? I'm a dewormschizo too but never tried soda, for me it seems too common and simple to kill parasitesNo, I just wanted to tell OP that there's a way to deworm without having to take horse meds. Anything that can fully cleanse your asshole from worms is enough.
>these two look like usual caca cartoon male characters with a touch of furry brimstone. the one in skirt you posted previously is actual problem. you should somehow persuade yourself that skirts and dresses are female clothing ONLY.All three are fursonas of a furry singer known as Yonkagor. Makes brimstone music as the guy is either a fag or a troon.
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>>99192how does soda kill them?
btw parasites can be elsewhere, not in gut only. gut ones are source of the most faggotry doe.
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>>99193It doesn't. It cleanses your digestive system to remove worms. I thought that was the main way of getting rid of these buggers, but I am willing to learn more I guess
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>>99194they hook onto walls and crawl up the gut, just washing them out won't work. it will remove a small part in case of a huge infection. so you need something to paralyze or better kill them.
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>>99192yonk as far as I know is "non binary" and is very likely gay as hell however he doesn't sexualize his characters, hence I latched onto their designs anyway.
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>>99186>trannies hate doing that gegYeah im in a weird fucking position as someone who can't stand them but has to occasionally ward off the urge to play dressup every few months.
>you should somehow persuade yourself that skirts and dresses are female clothing ONLY.Yeah the problem is I since a kid always had a interest in gender role reversal, I know I'll never be a troon because the entire hook and appeal of being feminine to me is its a reversal, being a actual girl has zero appeal to me because its not the role reversal.
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>>99179fair point, mentally you were there
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>>99206>since a kid always had a interest in gender role reversalwhat provoked this?
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>>99206i recently bough this game, i hope it's good
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Aside from Ralsei THIS fucking character from sister location also fucked up caca me when I liked fnaf
Since "Oh its a boy but its pretty and has a girl's voice?" definitely influenced the crazy "Lets ACK and be pretty forever!" mindset
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>>99212Don't tell this guy who voiced Bart Simpson and Ash from Pokemon
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>>99213Pokemon mystery dungeon…
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>>99214Don't fucking tell me. That shit still affects furfag pokemon artists to this day
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>>99210You could have gotten it for free on the games website goy
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>>99209A bunch of things, originally I just thought it was funny as a kid, then it became "Oh maybe I wouldn't mind being like that…" then when puberty kicked in, normal male relationships where the guy is big and strong and the girl is smaller was deemed "gross" and "bad" to me so I got the notion the ideal relationship is a pretty and girly male and his girlfriend/wife, this took on a bunch of variations and got to some extreme degrees that I don't even know if I want to talk about but I'll include this snootgame image to maybe give you an idea of where it went.
Now its mostly just… for some reason the concept of "Boy but girly" just scratches an itch in my brain and feels like the "proper" or "natural" state for me, with the relationship stuff becoming less weird somewhat.
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>>99220yeah but it was on sale for dirty cheap so i folded
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>>99216I saw a anime episode of it where a boy wakes up as one of the cute starter pokemon…
I feel I would be spared alot of trouble if caca me didn't see that…
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>>99222I still don't understand what made you suicidal
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>>99286I mean I already kind of explained it but essentially as a teen my hormones were going crazy and combined that with being lonely and how I hate being who and what I am and how life felt at the time like it was a one way road down I had gotten a sort of delusion of offing myself to be whisked away to wonderland to eat candy and prance through flowerfields.
Nowaways however I still have ideation and reasons I want to ACK but its different reasons where I just want to be done with being me, I do not like being autistic or having adhd or having multiple personalities or the 6 million other quirks I was basically born with that have doomed me to being this weird mentally scrambled person who basically goes through life being present physically but not mentally, sure you can say I need to do xyz self improvement thing but those are ultimately putting a bandaid on a chronic condition. killing myself and just reincarnating as a normal guy or asking whoever is incharge of whatevers on the other side to just make me normal is alot more appealing than having to consciously fight off the fact Im essentially a sickly and barely functional vessel that a edgy sharty user and a furry crossdresser fight over who gets to pilot.
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i really wish i had a cute janny bf. someone who i could really love and cherish all day. someone who i could come home to, cuddle with, and remind just how loved he really is.
they receive so much hate all day… but then i would be there to cuddle him and make all of that negativity feel a little less heavy. he does all this for free, so i'll gladly hear him out whenever he wants to talk about something. he deserves to have someone who listens to him too. while he cries on my shoulder about the things he had to delete, i'd be playing with his long, fluffy yellow ears and gently reassuring him that he did his best.
i'd want to make him smile whenever he has even a single bad thought about himself. i'd tell him how cute he is, how much i appreciate him, and how proud i am of him, even if he doesn't believe me at first. i'd probably just keep hugging him until he finally starts smiling again.
gosh… i already get excited just thinking about him… already blushing just imagining my cute yet strong janny boyfriend sitting next to me, finally getting to relax after dealing with everyone all day. i'd spoil him with cuddles, affection, and way too much attention. he deserves it… and i'd be more than happy to give it to him.
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>>99350Dude wtf.
I might be mentally insane and obsessed with cartoon animals but atleast im not a flaming faggot.
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>>99225Thank fuck you didn't end up a full-on furfag from this
>>99352Call me bold but you do show some characteristics of being a fag. That obsession with girly boys sure makes it look like it
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>>99355Im not obsessed with them.
The issue is that your knowledge of me is the guy who posts these things but I have literally since entering adulthood avoided these things at all costs however having opened up about this issue I obviously both needed to show example images and explain the issue but I don't regularly consume media of this sort of thing infact all these images only went on my harddrive after I decided to start this thread because I had to go look up example images.
That plus like I said I have a asexual interest in these things, firstly in that I am able to appreciate a design without it being sexual and secondly because I basically "see myself" in them. Straight women will often look at other girl's outfits and makeup and picture themselves in it, alot of retarded tumblr girls were obsessed with Rey from star wars because they directly projected themselves onto her, I have something similar to what these women do where I look at these characters and fit them into the bizarre isekai fantasies I have of basically becoming something that looks like them hence why its always males since the appeal is having their appearance .
I can understand how it comes off like that but I know from my own experience I am not gay but just really really autistic and overly attached to gender role reversal for some reason.
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>>99192>>99151>>99186Holy shit! Yonkagor isn't gay!
He has a wife and its not a troon (its the orange one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZ0fDGtXWgI mean he's still a troon himself kind of but ts got my flabbergasted.
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>>99373Behead all Yonkfaggots, it's the biggest niggerbrimstone of all furry shit, cannot believe people actually invested in "catboy but different outfit" as a hook for music
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log in john
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>>99393they are furries so it's still degenerate to lust for them, post real women or tranime at least
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>>99395Anime girls really don't hit the same for me, infact I unfortunately literally default to this sort of thing if I get thoughts about sex or romance my brain just automatically imagines furfaggotry over real women.
I told you guys I had this sort of thing basically lodged into my brain.
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>>99399how did it get lodged? did you often goon to furries in the past? you need to correct this too
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>>98262See I think I must have the worm issue because this shit does things to me that normal women don't and I have the tickling warm sensation.
With that in mind how much fenbendazole should I dose myself to stop feeling romantic feelings about animal women
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>>99400I did stop a while ago actually I've developed a good technique to prevent myself.
>>99402When I did coom as a hormonal teenager I basically exclusively was into furries real women as a sexually attractive thing is something Im still having to learn because my default setting for sexual attraction is furry girls.
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>>99403the best will be combining ivermectin and fenbendazole, 200-400mg each. it depends on your weight. try other meds as well if you have such opportunity, it's trial and error thing
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>>99406here
as a thing you may also try is re-educating your brain on what to be attracted to. I first switched to anime then to real females. doe I think I succeeded because of deworming
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>>99407I guess I could try that anime girl thing. Im kind of autistic about colors for some reason so since humans come in "boring" colors its hard to feel the same amount of attraction compared to something like a colorful dinosaur girl who has spikes and is red.
For some reason also my brain just finds anime girl stuff "cringey" compared to furfaggotry which makes 0 sense whatsoever but my brain for some reason sees furries as the default and "normal" thing and anime as the "weird" thing.
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>>99408tranime girls can be colorful too so it may work - hair, eyes, clothing of different colors. what is cringey about them?
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>>99409My brain is fucking scrambled so don't expect anything I say of alot of things to make sense, I AM afterall the guy who had the idea of offing himself as a teenager to turn into a furry crossdresser. but I think with anime what happened was it was heavily demonized in the environment I was in so it became sort of "off limits" and getting off to anime girls was kind of seen as "trashy" to me but since furries didn't receive the same kind of hatred kid me saw it as "quirky" to be into them and then this fed into the huge furry problem I have in my mind Im only now having voiced all these things realizing how deeply ingrained furry stuff is in me.
But with anime it was always kind of "off limits" plus I never liked the art style compared to the stylized way furries are drawn.
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>>99412then it should be sort of "plan B" if deworming won't work. doe I see that you like tranime-stylized furries like ones of Yonkagor, what is the difference between them and human females which makes it bad artstyle?
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>>99415I don't wanna fuck the yonkagor characters though. For me furry designs fall into the categories of ones I appreciate as attractive which is female ones that have detailed more human shaped designs like the purple shark girl, and ones I appreciate aesthetically like Yonkagor's.
But I get what your saying. Bare in mind I currently speaking am in a phase of not gooning The issue is that I still for whatever reason have a easier time feeling attracted to furries than other things. For example compare this image of this girl and this purple shark girl image.
when I look at the woman obviously I get aroused and maybe some mental image of her and I doing something intimate will slip by for a second, but when I look at the shark I get aroused with a fluttering romantic feeling and a bunch of mental images of hugging the shark making out passionately with the shark, spending quality time with the shark marrying the shark and making shark babies.
my brain just sees the furry stuff as the "default" which is obviously a problem. I can consciously make myself picture a romantic scenario with a human real woman but any kind of idle thought that might slip in my mind involving girls its default is usually anthro stuff Hopefully deworming will correct this.
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Hello, it's me, the guy who wrote this:
>>97831and some other things 'til this:
>>97841I don't recommend hopping from one character addiction to another, just hop off altogether, just saying.
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>>99431Pornography in general (even if softcore) kills your brain
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>>99432I don't really consume porn or softcore porn right now. I grabbed these images to demonstrate things, especially since I needed something to break up the suspicious at first glance march of male character photos in here. and also to bring up the issue of my brain for some reason sees a purple shark as hotter than a beauty model.
I guess I should just kinda have from the start clarified that this thread was started because of the result of a long time of practicing nevergoon and avoiding feminine media still somehow ending up as much as of a furfag as when I started
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>>99433It takes a long while, and it's a difficult path unfortunately.
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>>99431Yeah I fully intend to hop off furfaggotry all together the issue is I have been trying to do that for a long time now with no success so I obviously need help and ideas
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>>99434I found the book "breaking the cycle" is really good it teaches you to just recognize your brain is leading you on a thought train to a sexual behaviour and cut down said train before it leads to actually doing so.
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>>99437>>99435Good, very good.
I hope you will succeed with your task that is at hand right now.
Rememebr to cut the thoughts even when they are minor, getting distracted from those is great too.
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>>99438Its been hard due to adhd and so on but I hope to improve
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can't say i relate to your exact circumstance but ive always been a wuss up until about a year and a half ago. Lifestyle choices are a big part especially regarding how consistent you are in keeping them (i.e. a plan for your day/week, which you deviate on depending on what is actually feasible).
diet, dress habits, hygiene, routine, physical activity.
The most important part of the change is finding how to 'translate yourself' into what a man is like. this will take time, so patience is needed. by translating yourself i mean that you should look at the personality you have (tendencies in social situations, in regards to talking and interaction as whole), and converting them to what a man would do.
for myself the best way of doing this is has always been to find the courage to do stuff i wouldnt normally do. For example: id never break up a fight before, but now ive done it twice without escalating anything. ive held a speech for my grandpa's 80th birthday infront of a very large family crowd.
usually the habits i take on start snowballing once i keep them for long enough, its always a good idea to find a role model though. either in classical fiction (because its actually written by men and not some whiney marvel nepo new-yorker comic artist) or through family; it's best to find someone who you are able to know personally (male family members, heroes from mythos, bible stories, saint stories). I always look to my to my grandpa as a rolemodel because i know him well enough to understand his way of life, but not to the degree of my grandmother ,a sibling of his, or a friend that would know his secrets and failings. So 'creating' or finding a hero to measure up to while still realising that they aren't flawless is a good way of pushing yourself closer to manhood. "follow the step of your forefathers" or however the ancestor is praised.
also get of the internet, less time on this virtual reality is the only way to get real.
Dominus tecum.
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>>99190It's a longwinded answer, but basically protein is overhyped unless you are a lifter or athlete. Protein mainly helps with tissue repair, if you lift and exercise a lot, protein will help your body recover. In this way, protein is tangentially related to testosterone, because exercise increases testosterone. Protein is also related to testosterone in that some foods like fatty red meats contain a lot of protein, and also containing other nutrients that aid in male hormone production. OP really doesnt need to worry about his protein intake, he probably only needs 40-60 grams a day.
A recommend fruits because they contain many nutrients (as well as other compounds that don't specifically qualify as nutrients) that help you feel better and help your body function. when people say "eat your fruits and veggiess", people mostly focus on vegetables because they seem "healthier". In reality, the main benefit you get from vegtables is lots of fiber (which is still extremely important). Fruits contain the vast majority of your non-fat-soluble vitamins and minerals, as well as anti-oxidants, flavonoids, polyphenols, and many other niche compounds that your body needs to function properly. Without these, many secondary aspects of your hormonal system wont function properly and your body wont be able to produce or utilise its hormones properly.
Dietary fat (not to be confused with bodyfat) is crucial for hormonal function. Think of your hormone system like a distribution warehouse. One of the crucial uses of dietary fat is that it acts like delivery trucks. Your body uses fat to move hormones around your body. If you don't get a good amount of health fat, your body can't create and move the hormones around. There are many different types of dietary fats though, some good, some bad. It's best to stick to things like healthy oils, nuts, avocado, dairy products and eggs, as most of these foods are PACKED with other nutrients as well as fat.
So basically, protein is just for tissue repair, vitamins and fats are for making you feel better and helping your organs to function.
man i wish this website had a fitness board…
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>>99188Dude at this point just get off the internet. Like seriously. Throw everything away and live a normal life for a few years. THE INTERNET put this stuff in your brain, and you are spending all fucking day on THE INTERNET.
It's not even that hard tbh, I threw my smartphone away a few months ago and just use a flip phone now, life is so much nicer without it.
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>>99350I dated a girl that looked EXACTLY like this jak once.
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>>99449tsmt, doe I will start slow. Changing to a flip phone will make some things impossible for you. Get something like a PiHole (software for the Raspberry Pi that can block websites) or a VPN with DNS blockers as a start
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>>99452Just buy a laptop and use bluestacks for anything that is mobile exclusive. The ONLY thing I haven't been able to do on a desktop is log into my old whatsapp account, which I just used bluestacks for.
You literally do not need a smartphone. It is a goycattle psyop
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>>99454Isn't bluestacks chinese spyware? Waydroid could be better if OP is on Leenux
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>>99461Whats worse, having some chinese spyware on your laptop, or being a completely mentally ill faggot that can hardly even function and wanting to commit suicide to go to firry heaven?
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>>99462Nigga just find something else instead like Android Studio. This is a bullshit argument
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>>99449See the thing is actually a bit of this stuff just kind of came naturally I as a kid was already interested in gender role reversal for whatever reason thinking it was funny, and I had this thing of people being made into cartoons that just kinda was there in my head, obviously the internet made me worse but still
Also I had been avoiding it for a long while but it just kept nagging my mind despite doing everything right like avoiding troonslop eating well doing hobbies
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Btw guys if you put the paste in something else does it get diluted and less effective? I made a cocktail of it with orange juice since I have sensory issues
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>>99722idk for sure but dewormers tend to be less chemically reactive. you could have made a sandwich, this way it would work for sure. sandwiches are recommended for horses who can't take pure paste
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>>99732Huh so I should next time I make a sandwhich add some paste to it?
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>>99736yeah, don't mix the paste with other stuff in it to prevent any reactions. horses take it just on a loaf of bread or with extra sugar
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I have cancr
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>>99821maybe you shouldn't post so much furry troonslop?
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>>100159I feel melanin being injected into my veins from this
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>>100159just DON'T. niggerhellish role reversal like this only reinforces this mindset. here ralsei should be female and the dinosaur male.
once I saw a young couple kissing on stairs like this IRL. the girl was standing one step higher so that she was same height as her bf, it looked really cute. however I don't have any similar feelings towards this image since I understand its satanic role reversal nature. and they're furries, that as well.
any updates on your deworming?
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>>100397Well I will admit if I get particuarly grossed out by something I tend to revert back to my furfag self since the autism makes me sensory sensitive.
But I will say that since I have been taking the worm stuff and I fasted recently I feel alot less of the "fuzzy feeling" looking at this stuff than I normally would, I have been looking into the Castor Oil cleanse to nuke the biofilm but fasting is difficult for me due to medical issues I definitely can't do 3 days as my conditions mean I basically HAVE to consume something.
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>>100490>But I will say that since I have been taking the worm stuff and I fasted recently I feel alot less of the "fuzzy feeling" looking at this stuff than I normally wouldyour sex drive stops during fasting, doe it can return after that
>my conditions mean I basically HAVE to consume somethingwhat are these exactly? you should be extra careful with it
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>>100503Its kinda complicated but without getting too indepth my body can't really regulate alot of its normal functions so I have to manually perform certain things
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>>100503Yeah that bit about fasting is true but I for example after taking the fenbendazole for a bit found it was easier to resist some of the urges
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>>100413Ohnonononoo frogpedos…
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>>100531I did that last part
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>>99350Shit thread kill yourself
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>>100559I wanna clarify thats a separate user from me the one who started the thread I guess he wanted to "frame" me by posting his own faggotry? Idk
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>>97828 (OP)God can forgive you, repent of this insanity and realize that you are in control of yourself. Ground yourself in reality and spend time with you family, divorce yourself from the internet and abandon these daydreams
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>>100731Everyone seems to have this idea in their head im the usual "sits in a discord all day and goons" person but if I was I wouldn't be posting here. Because the issue is I kicked gooning and I have a healthier lifestyle but I still have these problems.
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Hit the gym, join a boxing club, hit on roids, listen to tuff shi like trap and RAC, eat red meat
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>>101788I do stuff like that sometimes to ward it off but its kind of just always "beneath the skin"
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>>97828 (OP)Similar thing for me,I've always wanted to have something like Ralsei or Fluttershy, though for me it's always just been wanting to be like them more metally than physically (though I still do daydream about being them and being allowed to live alone in a fantasy land) and I often do find myself dissapointed in myself when I can't live up to these unrealistic role models. I used to be suicidal but it was for other reasons and it kinda just went away one day, now I just kinda feel mreh all the time and hate myself everytime I do anything because I feel like I'm a burden on other people and wish I could just fade away back into nothingness where I belong (not in a suicide way(