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/quit/
Jannies PLZ sticky, if your gonna allow FPE brim on /soy/ one goon quitting thread wont hurt
ITT: we actually quit gooning and move on from our lives instead of making thrembillion threads coping about being one
<Ill post some of my resources
easypeasymethod.org
*new one that ive been using
https://archive.org/details/steven-slate-mark-w-scheeren-michelle-l-dunbar-the-freedom-model-for-addictions(shorter version of the above)
https://archive.org/details/freedom-model-abridged/TheFreedomModel-ABRIDGED-NEW/mode/2up?q=The+Freedom+Model+for+Addictions №74851[Quote]
>>74850make the /srg/ alive retard
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>>74851/R9k/ has almost 6x more activity then /x/ and most people come here to cope about their problems then the other board it only makes sense to have a thread here too
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>>74853ah whatever you are right considering this is the advice board
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nice, I was thinking about how I should post a thread on the ezpz method earlier for nusois (since this board is always getting threads asking how to quit or just complaining about addiction in general.)
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>>74848 (OP)what do i do when I resort to porn when life starts going shit? I can get my mind away from porn and not consume it generally, but when something upsetting comes, i feel like using porn as a way to cope and generate dopamine to not feel so shit, porn doesnt even feel good, it just feels numbing as if my troubles went away
I relapsed because there were some physical pains throughout my body and I have so much stuff I need to do and the deadline is extremely close but i havent done anything, with a shitty situation porn numbs it
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as my advice to quit gooning, keep yourself busy with something that brings you joy, that way the thought and desire to goon will disappear
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>>74964you should really read the freedom method, but ill paraphrase what ive been reading recently. The problem is you view porn as way to become happier thats most of what addiction is a mindset that your poison makes you happier (even if you already understand the consequences) also having goals does help like what
>>74964 said
essentially you view porn as a way to be happier in the moment and until YOU yourself come to the conclusion that its bad for you that is when quitting becomes easy, but please dont take this advice at face value, read the freedom model book the second link in the OP
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>>74963I've learnt from the easypeasymethod book that, as you describe, no pleasure is generated.
You coom, the dopamine rises but not enough, you no longer feel anything. That's because you raised your base level of dopamine needed to feel happy, in other words, you're desensitized. In other words, you're an addict, and you don't get anything from it apart from being distracted.
Distracting yourself is the same as going to the future to the day time is up and you have to face the consequences. Imagine if you did that right now, you're already turning in your thing but you haven't done anything, well that's where you're heading and whatever you do in the meantime is meaningless.
Except for one thing, working on it. You may be a weak willed individual, but I myself thought I was one, until one day I simply fucking did it, and I hope you can too.
How did I do it? Well I stopped watching porn because every time you do it a jew laughs at you, and I hate jews.
I stopped being disconsiderate of my surroundings and lazy because that's what a third world nigger would do and I hate third world niggers.
I started working out because that's what national socialists did in the meantime (they were fucking soldiers) and that's fucking badass.
I'm learning german and russian because I wanna laugh at their memes in their chans, japanese because I wanna sing their songs and hebrew because I do not want the jews to decieve me with false translations.
I stopped eating trash food because it is goylop, and I'm in the process of quitting goyslop altogether, like GMO'd
(((food))), by becoming a farmer.
I am forever thankful to the internet for making me racist, and to the sharty for making me hate porn and hentai.
Thirst traps are now innefective against me, and it feels amazing.
Anon, this is your calling, its time to introspect and I hope you have what it takes. You need to learn to dream, there's been so many amazing things in this world, but now you like who knows in what darkness, it doesn't have to be this way!
Don't hate yourself, because you'll end up killing yourself, instead hate the things that harm you, so that one day you will kill them.
Every time I find out about a new way in which I've been screwed over my whole life by some sociopathic fuck I seethe and rage, and by becoming as correct as I can I can get this anger out.
TOTAL VERMIN DEATH.
This is the meaning of life, I can't prove it but I can feel it, and thats why I know it is TRVE.
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easy peasy method and acknowledging that every time you do it a jew laughs at you: guaranteed freedom
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>>74991thank you for this absolutely keyed and useful advice
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>>74991Sm this i have been extremely addicted until a few months ago and almost gooned to incest/femdom a few days ago but i can relate alot more now. The main reason for my addiction was porn being normalized too much online
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>>74991this is really nice advice, though my last porn related problem is recovering my self esteem from 4.5 years of it.
hell i made so many posts about it too, so it became somewhat of an obsession. although, i'm not as bothered by it as before. i was also supposed to take a break from here and stop posting about it, but i decided to check this board again and i saw this thread, so here i go:
WARNING: GIANT WALL OF TEXT from 16 to when i was 20 i couldn't stop chronically looking at porn, which consisted of hentai. this was almost every week when i had this addiction, i only really got to quit a couple of months ago after turning 21 this year. that raises the question: can i recover from all of that? it feels as if i was shot in the head sometimes, like if a part of my brain got injured from it.
some of the content was even questionable (which i mentioned in the threads i made) and i found it weird that it kept going for so long, i was very pavlov'd into getting off on the most basic things like the artstyle and the parts that weren't as fucked up (meaning i didn't look at it to actually get off on the idea of the characters being underaged), but it was still concerning that i ignored how weird it was.
for anyone not aware, it consisted of teenaged tranime characters which included some i was familiar with, i even made a few mistakes with lolipedoshit and similar hentai in the past. i'll add i didn't dedicate myself to consuming any of that specific content alone as it was only really among everything else (which consisted of basic hentai), but it's still a little bit worrying that it occurred within that whole addiction period up to being literally 20 years old.
is that something you can normally come out of? i know i'm a repetitive faggot with this, but i feel like looking for a few more answers.
i was told to go offline and find some somebody to talk to which is likely something i should do instead of posting on here,
but this looks like a good thread where i can speak about it at least one more time.
i find that dealing with the aftermath and moving on from being addicted seems to be a rarely discussed topic anywhere else.
my apologies to anyone annoyed by my previous constant posting of this, most likely my literal OCD causes some of my additional stress and i want to be sure that i'm ok sometimes
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I started to quit 2 months ago and it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Everyone and everything around me is goon goon goon and you can tell when people have the "gooner brainfog." I hate porn so much.
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>>75028TSMT, it's bad knowing that i was actually first conditioned into hentai when i was 12 (coomed to it only once back then) which started my heavy addiction to it later on that i couldn't stop for years
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>>75024Quit porn and you'll be fine, use the liberation method from the easypeasymethod, it makes you stop looking at quitting porn as losing something but as freeing yourself from an addiction that sucks dry the enjoyment off the rest of life and never leaves you satisfied but craving and hurting for more, a viscious cycle, a spiral of doom.
As for the lolishit hentai, it seems like lolifags do have a point about loliporn not being inherently pedophilic, instead it relies on heavy duty neoteny, which its nature of being anime already contributes a lot to (big eyes, big heads, femenine jaws even for men).
We are objectively attracted to neoteny, however non-pedophiles don't find attraction to pre-pubescent children, thus the natural male attraction is in a range of at leat pubescent to as young as possible, which many times falls on 16 y/o, which is under the age of consent in many places so retarded antis (e.g. kiwis) will call you a pedophile for not respecting the sacred rule of 18 (YOU MONSTER, SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS 11 MONTHS 30 DAYS 23 HOURS 59 MINUTES 59 SECONDS 0.9999 MILISECONDS OLD HOW DARE YOU YOU PEDOPHILE FREAK).
In other words, if you aren't a pedophile and don't find actual sexual attraction to real children then you simply were OMGSISA'd by a genre of porn that relies on neoteny and kawaii cuteness and whatever (hijacking of your arousal mechanisms), even if the characters ARE meant to be underaged. If you're not sure just search for pictures of children online and if you don't feel anything you're in the clear, if you do then 1. Don't tell anybody and 2. Exercise your willpower and decision making so that you don't rape anybody (POWERWORD: Inhibition, see the adjunted paper "Executive Functions" by Adele Diamond).
For my story time I was EPI'd by softcore ecchi anime shit like To Love Ru which I watched pirated on youtube in disorder lol. Then I stumbled upon none other than sadistic BDSM, and then the rape torture hentai version of that, and then furries, and then femboys, and then transshit, and then ryona, and then pure shockvalue self destruction shit, basically people putting themselves in really dangerous situations ._.xD
However after quitting porn I've felt liberated from all that stuff and it seems boring, but doing anything else feels fun.
If you still can't quit just with willpower then I recommend you let go and indulge as much as you can, simply goon away. When you're finally done, make sure you look around and notice how empty you feel. When you feel bored, focus on that feeling, because it is the truth of porn.
By doing that you take away the taboo, you take away the novelty and the feeling of transgression. You might feel bored from what you already have, you might think there is always a line to cross, that will bring you more pleasure, well then, cross it, and when you're on the other side you'll see it is the exact same and you're still bored, and you'll break the curse; there is no more reason to chase.
This can be done with porn addiction because its withdrawal symptoms are psychologically weak and physically nonexistent, you cannot do this with drug addiction, like with alcohol, weed, DMT or cocaine, because those have withdrawal symptoms that are psychologically and physically strong, so much so that even with willpower, quitting a drug might kill you. This is not the case with porn, quitting does not do any harm, but stops the degeneration of your body and mind:
-—- if you're already bored of some genres of porn what awaits at the end of the journey is to be bored of all of them.
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>>75024>can i recover from all of that?yes. porn addiction/sexual depravity leads to the development of fetishes (even more if you’re a victim of EPI/trauma) and you should never crucify yourself, or even be ashamed, for having them. doesn’t
matter how bizarre they are, it’s not who YOU are. the type of fetish you incline to is, of course, based on personality traits and experiences through life, but it’s a corruption of that.
when you no longer feeds the PMO cycle, you will be sexually aroused for normal things again. the neural path for the fetishes will still be there, but irrelevant, unutilized. if you feed it again, the degeneration will start over from where it stopped.
however, when the trauma is severe for being physical, it’s way more difficult to overcome, as the fetish is a form to cope with that.
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>>75048>antisi know what u are, kys pedophile lolicuck
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>>75048i have to say i only had a conditioning to anime porn and nothing else thankfully yeah. i'll also mention that i have already stopped gooning and i feel no need to go back at all ESPECIALLY with the huge scare i got from remembering all of that. i cured the addiction, and now i'm curing the trauma left behind
i'll also hope that you fully recover from what you went through if you haven't already, thanks for some of the info
>>75049thank you so much, i have to admit that's really true. like i stated, i was 100% EPI'd at 12. it was once and i resisted going back to it at the time, but when i got really depressed at around 16 that's what sent me back to it with a horrible addiction that lasted for years after. i'm going to do my best to keep recovering
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>>75052as a bit of an addition to my post: thinking of it, i'm not sure if i can say i was REALLY depressed but i know i was at a low point, noticeably my mental health sucked and i kept having these really bad obsessive compulsive disorder related behaviors that wouldn't really let up. (not making it up because ocd has been a lifelong battle for me)
so i'm positive that gave me some form of depression back then
>>75050i have to agree "antis" is terrible wording btw, SOME of the information he posted is good but that comes off really suspicious and i don't like that either
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>>75054Someone consuming so much porn they start jacking it to depictions of kids is pretty good reasoning for quitting, albeit.
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>>75048>In other words, if you aren't a pedophile and don't find actual sexual attraction to real children then you simply were OMGSISA'd by a genre of porn that relies on neoteny and kawaii cuteness and whatever (hijacking of your arousal mechanisms), even if the characters ARE meant to be underaged. If you're not sure just search for pictures of children online and if you don't feel anything you're in the clear, if you do then 1. Don't tell anybody and 2. Exercise your willpower and decision making so that you don't rape anybody (POWERWORD: Inhibition, see the adjunted paper "Executive Functions" by Adele Diamond).If this happens to you, you genuinely need to visit a psychologist
>If you still can't quit just with willpower then I recommend you let go and indulge as much as you can, simply goon away. When you're finally done, make sure you look around and notice how empty you feel. When you feel bored, focus on that feeling, because it is the truth of porn.>>By doing that you take away the taboo, you take away the novelty and the feeling of transgression. You might feel bored from what you already have, you might think there is always a line to cross, that will bring you more pleasure, well then, cross it, and when you're on the other side you'll see it is the exact same and you're still bored, and you'll break the curse; there is no more reason to chase.This is terrible advice, youre gonna do things you will 100% regret, it will probably have the inverse effect of making you more addicted and even if you do manage to quit youre gonna be even more fucked up
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I stopped gooning when I got a gf and I just have sex instead
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>>75062>This is terrible advice, youre gonna do things you will 100% regret, it will probably have the inverse effect of making you more addicted and even if you do manage to quit youre gonna be even more fucked upYou're right, I recommended it because that's what happened to me but now that I think about it its dangerous. I was assuming the "line to cross" isn't anything too crazy.
It is dumb because the point is "you'll be dissatisfied contrary to your expectations after you cross the line" but in reality you are already dissatisfied contrary to all of your past expectations, because you've already crossed many lines.
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>>75052I’m glad to help. had to figure this all on my own, losing my self-esteem in the meanwhile.
(((they))) want you to think that your brain degeneration — caused by their own, jewish venom — is in fact who you truly are. then, you either embrace it, becoming a full coomer or; shame yourself to doom. the later is the most common one and strongly sustained by christcuckery, as
>YOU ARE a sinner>YOU ARE impure>YOU ARE less>YOU ARE nothingbut the trvth I say unto you: you are a shiny, beautiful gem, who happens to be covered in jewish mud
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>>75072trvke, once again TYSM for telling me all of this. i'll probably take another break from the sharty but i really have to say i got a lot of support on here, and i don't think i would have gotten as far without it. for any of you that are still struggling: i sincerely wish you the best
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>>75079i'm not addicted at all anymore doe, and the majority of my consumed content wasn't tranime 'p (it was mainly basic hentai with legal OMGSISAs)
i only made a few mistakes that make me feel pretty gross looking back, not that it makes it totally right but still
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*I feel like this too
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>>75126maybe some will assume i'm a HARDCORE TRANIME 'P GOONER
but i honestly obsessively look back at my mistakes with an unnerved and sickened feel that can sometimes ruin my day,
it's likely i should go to some therapist or talk to somebody IRL though i'm not in the position to be able to do so atm.
and i'm not sure how i would be able to explain this to anybody yet
>>75129it's definitely hard
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>>75142Yeah except my case was worse but if i give too many hints to it everyone here will probably want to murder me although it wasn't 'p
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nofap is retarded af as long as you arent gooning to really degenerate shit like cp or scat or some shit there are bigger things to worry about than not jerking off
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>>75172>>75173why dont you go buy a chastity cage aswell since you want to cuck yourself for no reason, it will probably be helpful for you lmao
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>>75175isn't porn closer to being cucked since you're watching others fuck while you aren't even involved in it?
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>>75177yeah it is weird but you don't need porn to jerk off
>>75175 is right just dont be a degenerate, people have jerked off for centuries you should just be worried about weird stuff on the internet not about the actual act itself
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>>75178geg i appreciate your humor
as a reply to what you've said
>>75168i don't really have a problem with NOT jerking off, i'm just left with some pretty bad memories from it after having gotten careless at some point but thank god i never looked at real 'p
(not that i'd be able to anyway since i'd already have ACKed if i had the thought of doing so, like look at what i described has already done to me)
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>>75181to rephrase
>i don't really have a problem with NOT jerking offi don't worry about it at all as i find it really easy to keep away from porn, especially after all of that
i'm just trying to salvage my mental state after having quit a really bad addiction atp
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>>75184as another addition to my posts: it's just a little hard to get over it, though it might be because i'm always overthinking it.
and for most of the day i don't really have too much to do, so it really weighs on me.
it's a bit nasty to live with because it can mess with how you view yourself, not that i'll end it or anything but it's a huge demoralizer in some way that i slowly need to get over.
so the side effects if a porn addiction gets to that point should be treated seriously
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ik it looks like i'm seeking validation like a troon but i'm trying to just get inspired to move on and i'm sort of anxious (you can see that through my amount of replies on this thread and how many times i've posted on this board),
i respect all of the help i received here though and i hope you're not too agitated by my frequent posting
the only thing i actually desire sexually at all anymore is to be in a loyal relationship with a nice gf, it just sucks to have this sort of stain me as a person even if i know my addiction wasn't really me
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What if you dont watch porno but jerk off once in a while
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>>75221It's still an act of low self-control but the damage is non-existent, like biting your nails I guess.
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Is it true that women know when you just jerked off or is that a psyop?
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>>75205it's somewhat scary trying to find myself after all of it, not to mention it has dealt such a crippling blow on my mental and physical health. all i really have is constant painful acne, and a lot of flashbacks from my porn addiction that tear my self-image apart.
i hate to sound like a whiny faggot, but nothing else has been this hard on me. i'd probably be dead already if i didn't have other people to live for. those few years of addiction were enough to change my view on life, it might have been one of the most rotten ways for me to leave my teenage years and enter adulthood,
i'm not quite sure how or when i'll ever get over this.
>>75246tsmt
>>75247i don't even know, but i wouldn't be too worried about that
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>>75221From the easypeasy method:
>People have been wanking for eons without issue. To be clear, porn is the problem.
>That being said, you can still get hooked on MO for the same reasons as porn, such as the ‘need-to-have-an-orgasm’ mentality, mental escalation, forcing the body to have sex, and just plain hedonistic pleasure-seeking.
>It’s exceedingly likely that porn and masturbation have become deeply intertwined in your mind. Many users find they end up relapsing as a result of masturbating to porn-induced fantasies. As your brain rewires, you’ll find this brainwashing eventually fades, but it’s best to take a break from MO for a while. You should also seek out real sex in order to speed this process along.
>This isn’t an instruction, but evaluate it: reported benefits from semen retention are numerous — increased focus and energy, removal of ‘brain fog’ and increased confidence, along with a slew of other benefits. From personal experience, there’s a clear difference, and it’s all down to how you sublimate this increased energy. №75264[Quote]
>>75262Interesting
>Unoreganoanobano №75275[Quote]
>>75257bump
i'm not sure if anyone has anything more to say for me, but if you do i would like to hear it. sorry for being a bit of a pain in the ass. maybe i should try and get off social media soon
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I read the easypeasy method a while ago and i dont goon anymore so thats nice
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I zero interest in goon but find it annoying that I constantly touch my penis
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>>75275for anyone still reading: do you think i'm just way too hard on myself, or do i have any actual reason to keep obsessing with my mistakes?
i mean, you can probably tell how unhealthy it is for me to keep paying this much attention to it.
>>75377what does this even mean
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i wish i had somebody to talk to me about this more at the moment
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jumping in here as someone who used to make fun of no fap people. i’ve come to the realisation that i have a masturbation addiction. not even a porn addiction. i’m constantly jacking off because im CONSTANTLY hard. and i don’t know why, i keep jacking off and barely feel any post nut guilt or clarity. sometimes the porn i watch is kind of fucked up and revolves a lot around misogyny but i’d never and i have no desire to treat a woman like that. the problem is that im always hard and horny and it sucks, especially feeling little to no guilt most of the time. i feel like im so far gone
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>>75405i'll tell you that you're ok, i'm probably in a worse position personally lmao. it's good that you're realizing this now instead of way late into your addiction
>but i'd never and i have no desire to treat a woman like that.yeah some of it can be fucked but i don't think it really represents who you are, at the end of all what i looked at i still ideally only want to be with one girl for my whole life if i ever get a gf. it's quite difficult for me to really forgive myself though
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>>75411you are NOT far gone. i'm already done with my addiction and i'm never going back, but it feels like a lot of the hentai i looked at might have messed up how i view myself.
not that i have any sick desires from it but i feel "dead" thinking of it (which i obsessively do) and it stops me from really wanting to do much with my life, there's not even an attraction i get from thinking back to it, it's more like i have PTSD-lite almost every day recently. basically i really regret that any of it even happened
i feel like you can still quit before you get to a point like that
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you can quit by accepting the gooning
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>>75168why are you comparing 'p to scat
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I have little to no interest in gooning anymore but i keep touching my penis sometimes unconsciously or idk
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>>75405I used to be like during middle school except i rarley masturbated and actually hated foids
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>>75411Stop using xitter. I got banned from there for litterally no reason except calling someone a Jeet. I wouldn't make an account to watch porn in particulary although i did in fact have fake accounts on some gooning sites and i regret ever doing this
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>>75189>>75205>>75401>>75388>>75257just going to post again, not sure if i'll get another reply or if anybody even cares anymore but nobody really knows how bad this is especially when it can keep you up in the middle of the night. it's probably because i'm really mentally ill at the moment and i need some sort of help
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>>75452Tsmt but ig there's not much i can do
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Ig all i need is someone to tell me that i deserve to move on but it some of the stuff i did feels too severe. The more my mind gets back to normal i realize how sick my OCD actually is. I don't like talking or thinking about this at all
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>>75462i'm guessing you're the other guy with the exact same problem i have?
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>its.. its so le hard to not touch my pecker…
kill yourself if you genuinely say this
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>>75477I'm not gooning. I just do it randomly without realising
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>>75418He's comparing it on terms of being line-crossing disgusting genres of porn so no problem here.