>>59776>"Putting something COMPLETELY made up in quotes"<The overwhelming majority of GENDER transition is based on changing secondary sexual characteristics, demeanor, and clothing to fit that of the *opposite sex* <--- !!!LOOK HERE!!!Did you ctrl + f "fit the opposite sex" in disbelief that you actually wrote that, and forgot that I shortened your sentence when I quoted it? Unless you're gonna say changing "fit that of the opposite sex" to "fit the opposite sex" was putting words in your mouth. Pic related, I even added some arrows and circles, colored them red just for you. Here, lemme reply to it too, I can hold your hand for this one.
>>59151>>59800>This person does not know how to argue.Correct, unfortunately I only know how to style on fags. You can stop speaking to the nonexistent audience, by the way. Nobody but you and me care about this argument.
>In this sentence you have only repeated your initial argumentAnd it still works, neat right? Think I'll do it again, no need to fix what ain't broken. Hell, why even bother rephrasing it? I can just copy and paste what I already wrote, it's not like you're saying anything new here anyhow.
>Behaviors which are rooted in GENDER. Things that are associated with said sex because of manmade GENDER roles.<People who want to imitate the opposite sex further this goal by imitating the gender as well, because gender is directly related to and in a lot of cases, a part of sex.
>There is nothing biological about wearing pink or walking "girly".And I never said there was. What I have said and will continue to say is that they're strongly associated with women, and transsexuals, who are infatuated with women, choose to imitate these things because there is no real barrier stopping them from doing so like there is with the biological aspects of women. They can then be associated with women by virtue of doing these things. As opposed to, say, imitating the bone structure of women, which isn't possible. Unless you want to count the shitty, expensive bone surgeries that trannies go into debt to afford, it's the next best thing. After imitating the hormonal balances of women via HRT, of course.
>HRT is again only used to make your features appear more feminine, or your skin softer.Injecting yourself with chemicals is *only* used to make yourself appear more like that of the opposite sex?! That's craaaazy… And not related to gender whatsoever, it's entirely physical. How did you even write this and think it was a good argument? I was seriously anticipating something better after 2 days >:^(
>They are used to fit into what SOCIETY considers feminine. AKA gender.Last time I checked, the biologically determined hormone levels of a woman aren't dictated feminine (or "associated with women") by society, they're dictated feminine because that's literally just how their bodies work. Or is the reason nearly every single healthy, young woman has higher estrogen than men because their bodies were societally pressured into producing more estrogen?
>Old men inject themselves with testosterone every single day to affirm their genderThis is for physical, biological benefits, having testosterone is not behavioral, not societal, and not gender. They are not doing this to better fit in with societies standards of men, they're doing it to remedy the physical drawbacks of being low testosterone that they experience after years of having being at a healthy level, not to "affirm" their gender. Shockingly, it turns out that your body isn't just making testosterone for fun. In contrast, transsexuals experience no physical drawbacks that are resolved by HRT. Unless not having moobs is considered one, I suppose. More importantly, these are problems with *age*, not sex, and hormone levels changing is not sex exclusive. Postmenopausal women experience drops in estrogen levels, and they too sometimes remedy this by taking hormones, it's an attempt to restore younger vitality, not to "affirm" their gender lol. How about we stick to healthy young people for our examples, eh?
>It's so bizarre to me that you continue to insist that everything that transgenders do is to change their biological sex.I insist that everything they do is to imitate the female sex. "changing their biological sex" is the desire, imitating the behaviors of the female sex is an attempt at sating that desire, since the desire itself is impossible to fulfill directly. Imitating the gender of the female sex is still imitating the female sex.
>As if dresses or makeup are anything else than what society has recently mandated as "feminine".They wear dresses because women, those of the female sex, which they wish they were a part of, wear them too. It's really that simple.
I should really keep these shorter but I'm having too much fun writing wordswordswords so I'm not going to lololol 41% of transgenders attempt suicide