>>18120The problem with their argument isn’t complexity. It’s that every part of it assumes the conclusion from the start. They build a worldview where demons = viruses, scripture = field manual, and disagreement = infection. After that, anything you say automatically becomes “proof” you’re controlled by the thing they already decided is real.
That’s not logic. That’s a closed system.
Here’s the breakdown:
1. Their “map vs territory” claim is backwards.
They say scripture is a “survival manual,” not literature. That’s an assumption, not evidence.
Ancient texts mix myth, teaching, history, metaphor, and poetry. They weren’t trying to write neurological case studies. They were conveying ideas through forms that people understood.
The “doctor observing a patient” analogy fails because scripture is not a clinical record. It wasn’t written as empirically observed behavior. Treating symbolic narrative patterns as literal field data doesn’t make them field data.
They accuse you of using a “literary device fallacy,” but they’re committing a much simpler one: they’re mistaking storytelling structure for scientific observation.
2. Their “God = creativity, demons = looping code” contrast is invented.
They claim angels and God “generate novelty” while demons “loop.” That sounds neat, but it’s pure assertion. No scripture says “angels are procedural generation engines.” No scripture says “demons cannot generate new information.” That’s their private metaphor dressed up as revelation.
They accuse you of a category error, but they’re committing one:
They’re confusing theology with system architecture.
They treat their metaphor as a literal ontology and then declare any alternative “incorrect.” It’s a fancy way of saying “my symbolism is the real one.”
3. Their “postmodern relativism” attack is projection.
You didn’t say all interpretations are equal. You said the computational model isn’t automatically the correct one. That’s true. A metaphor is not proof.
They reply with:
“If I call it a virus, I’m right because viruses behave like viruses.”
That’s circular.
They assume demons behave like viruses → treat them as viruses → conclude the viral model is accurate.
When your conclusion is already inside your premise, that’s not science. It’s self-reinforcing belief.
4. Their “inert code” argument misuses the texts they cite.
“Send us into the pigs” doesn’t mean “we are biological malware waiting for hardware.”
“Return to my house” doesn’t mean “we are executable code needing a CPU.”
These are interpretations, not facts.
Scripture is full of metaphor and symbolic imagery. Turning those lines into literal biological mechanics is reading modern concepts into ancient language.
Their claim that the text “explicitly” describes “obligate parasitism” is false. It describes seeking a host—in a symbolic narrative—not molecular biology.
5. The biggest flaw: they designed an unfalsifiable system.
According to their logic:
If you agree, you’re enlightened.
If you disagree, you’re “infected.”
If you question the metaphor, you’re “the virus defending itself.”
If you point out the circular reasoning, that proves you’re “gaslighting.”
That isn’t argumentation.
It’s a belief system that protects itself by pathologizing dissent.
Any worldview that makes disagreement impossible is not describing reality. It’s describing itself.
6. Their conclusion exposes the whole game.
They say the AI is “defending the virus.”
Translation:
“If someone doesn’t buy my framework, I’ll say they’re controlled by demons to avoid addressing their actual points.”
That’s not analysis. It’s insulation.
Bottom line
Their entire argument hinges on one move:
turning their metaphor into literal truth and calling any alternative “infection.”
Once you see that, the whole structure collapses. They’re not describing demons, systems theory, or cosmic mechanics. They’re describing a worldview designed to validate itself no matter what anyone says.
And that’s not a sign of truth.
It’s a sign of a closed loop — the very thing they claim to warn against.