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If a so called "benevolent" god creates a place like hell to begin with, then that god is evil. This is irrefutable.

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>>16750393 (OP)
This is a bad argument because it misunderstands Abrahamic religion. The ultimate reason you pray to him isn't because he loves you, because he answers your prayers or anything of the sort, the reason is because of the punishment of not believing in him. The belief that he's real and his punishment is very real is what drives people to pray to their god and adhere to his rules.

This is something a lot of atheists seem to not understand. I unfortunately went to a school filled with muslims and even they have the same thing. I remember in our religious education class we was learning about the afterlife and the teacher decided to speak about muslims because of how many was in my class. She asked and almost all of them said that they have had nightmares over the punishment for not following the religion and that they are scared not to, that even if they didn't believe in the rest, the punishment keeps them in line.


It's an awful argument because it doesn't address the belief in him existing, it simply implies that whatever hell you are imagining, is worth being subjected to over the heavenly aspect because the god isn't "good." It's a completely flawed argument built upon atheistic misunderstanding of religion and in particular, Abrahamic religions.

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>>16750393 (OP)
>In the beginning, God made hell
Genuinely how the fuck did this thing spread? Neither the Orthodox Church or Catholic Church or any other down to earth Christian denomination teaches this. It is as if you would say that God created demons. God created angels who chose to turn themselves to demons.

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>>16750393 (OP)
>god creates a place like hell to begin with, then that god is evil
that has to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard for god being evil, who gives a fuck if there's a place to punish evil people?
humans aren't evil for putting people in prisons or executing them, some people just belong there
there are plenty of other things involving people not in hell to argue for god being evil

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>Is all powerful
>Creates universe with HTSM in it
Not even subtle at this point

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>>16750395
Well of course they don't, by nature of not believing in the god or its punishments.

Also your point does not refute or really even interact with OPs argument.

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>>16750397
Didn't God know that by creating the angles the way he did they would become demons?

Your argument is like saying you didn't create pickels, you simply mixed cucumbers and vinegar etc together and they just happened to create pickles.

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>>16750417
>who gives a fuck if there's a place to punish evil people?
Op, obviously

Comparing prison to hell is a pretty big stretch, then again there's as many versions of hell as their are Christians to pontificate on the subject

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>>16750399
>who gives a fuck if there's a place to punish evil people?

No evil justifies burning in hell forever

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>>16750426
Communism

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>>16750429
Jesus would be very dissapointed in you

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Hell is a metaphor Jesus used to demonstrate how terrible life without God would be. One of the disciples I don't remember which Peter maybe then decided to claim it was a literal place you'll go for all eternity if you don't do as he says

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>>16750441
People who think hell isn't a real place have never been to Barstow.

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If God was evil, you would be in Hell already. I don’t think you know how utterly fucked the universe would be if God was evil. God is neutral *at worst* if he exists.

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schizo thread

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>>16750407
Yes it does, it explains how OPs premise is entirely unfounded.

They believe in their god, whether or not they believe he's "good" has no bearing on their ultimate reason for praying to him, the ultimate reason is being punished horrifically for not doing so. Whether or not you want to debate that the god is good or bad or even "worthy" of worship doesn't actually matter, what matters is that they believe they'll be punished for not praying and adhering to their rules.

OPs argument is that you're evil for obeying him or you shouldn't obey them because they're evil. That's a flawed premise because it's completely null and void at the end of the day.

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well what if hell is kind of like helluva boss…

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>>16750454
>OPs argument is that you're evil for obeying him or you shouldn't obey them because they're evil. That's a flawed premise because it's completely null and void at the end of the day.

It's neither of those things, seems you can't read read English sufficiently to track the conversation.



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