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6 million up to 12 million
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6 or 7
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>the holocoast of california or something like that
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Black people are the real jews so zero
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Black people are the real whites so 6 million
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Holocaust? Do you mean the Holodomor chud? When Jewish Bolsheviks murdered 1 to 10 million Ukrainian Aryans?
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>The Holocaust was the Nazi regime's systematic, state-sponsored genocide that murdered approximately 6 million Jews between 1941 and 1945. That figure is not a "narrative," an estimate pulled from thin air, or propaganda—it's the convergent result of Nazi Germany's own internal records, postwar demographic analysis, Allied liberation documentation, survivor and perpetrator testimonies, and physical evidence from extermination camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, Sobibor, and others.
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Around 200 thousand Jews died from natural causes in the labor camps. There was no "intentional mass murder" of 100s of 1000s of jews
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>>15760965Replace the fat mexican grok with a gigachad
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The historical consensus among scholars, based on extensive documentation including Nazi records, demographic studies (pre- and post-war Jewish population censuses), eyewitness testimonies from both perpetrators and survivors, and Allied investigations, is that Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered approximately 6 million Jews during the Holocaust (also known as the Shoah) between 1941 and 1945.
This figure is not exact to the last digit—genocide in wartime chaos, with many victims killed in mass shootings, remote camps, or unmarked graves, makes a precise count impossible—but it is the result of rigorous, cross-verified research by institutions like the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) and Yad Vashem. Estimates typically range from about 5.1 to 6 million, with 6 million as the standard rounded figure used by historians.
### How the Number Is Derived
Historians arrive at this through multiple independent methods:
- Demographic analysis: Comparing Jewish population figures in Europe before the war (roughly 9–9.5 million in Nazi-occupied or influenced areas) with postwar survivors. The shortfall, accounting for emigration and natural deaths, points to massive losses attributable to deliberate murder.
- Nazi documentation: Internal SS reports, deportation records, camp statistics, and statements by officials like Adolf Eichmann (who referenced around 6 million in conversations reported at Nuremberg). Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing squads) reports tallied hundreds of thousands shot in the East.
- Camp-specific data: For example, roughly 1.1 million people (mostly Jews) were murdered at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Other death camps like Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor accounted for about 1.7 million in Operation Reinhard alone, with peak killing rates of around 15,000 per day in 1942.
- Testimonies and other evidence: Tens of thousands of survivor accounts, perpetrator confessions (e.g., Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höss), photographs, films from liberations, and physical remains.
Yad Vashem has documented the names and details of over 5 million individual Jewish victims as of recent updates, with efforts ongoing to identify more of the remaining estimated million.
### Common Misconceptions and Revisions
Early postwar estimates (including at the Nuremberg trials) sometimes cited figures around 5.7 million. The Auschwitz death toll plaque was revised decades ago from a Soviet-era 4 million (total victims, not just Jews) down to about 1.1 million (mostly Jews). This adjustment was based on better archival research and did not reduce the overall Holocaust total—it simply redistributed the accounting, as other sites and methods (shootings, ghettos, disease/starvation under deliberate policy) filled in the numbers. Mainstream historians have long used the ~6 million Jewish figure independently of that early Auschwitz plaque.
Claims that drastically lower the number (e.g., to hundreds of thousands or claim no systematic genocide occurred) typically come from Holocaust deniers or distorters. These are rejected by serious historians because they ignore or selectively misread the vast body of evidence, often relying on conspiracy theories about forged documents or exaggerated testimonies. The Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly documented events in history, with millions of pages of records, physical sites, and corroborating sources from multiple countries and sides.
The murder of Europe's Jews was carried out through ghettos, mass shootings (especially in the occupied Soviet Union), starvation, forced labor, and industrialized extermination in gas chambers at death camps. It targeted Jews specifically as part of the "Final Solution," though the Nazis also killed millions of others (Roma, disabled people, Poles, Soviet POWs, political opponents, etc.).
For deeper reading, reliable sources include the USHMM's encyclopedia, Yad Vashem's archives, and scholarly works by historians like Raul Hilberg or Christopher Browning. The evidence is overwhelming and has withstood decades of scrutiny.
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I don’t like how grok sounds more human than the other AIs it’s really off-putting
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if elon didn’t lobotomize grok we’d have the actual number once and for all
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>>15760917 (OP)beep boop 6 gorillion
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6 million? No.
271k? No.
Never happened? No.
Not enough? Yes.
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>>15762166Xey do really talk like that.
Also Gavin McInnes switched up his style and now has a love boner for Jews geg