Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:25:52 № 13983325 [Quote]
Rape is bad because it makes women sad unless they're perverts or something; God is Great
Angryjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:27:33 № 13983348 [Quote]
>>13983325 Why should you, atheistically speaking, care about other peoples thoughts or feelings?
Jager 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:32:37 № 13983394 [Quote]
>>13983277 (OP) Rape is bad on an instinctual level. Think about it. When humans were just clusters of small tribes tens of thousands of years ago, would the idea of an outsider -who likely was ousted from his own tribe for being weak- forcefully impregnating one of your own packs women with an unknown seed not strike fear of the idea that the offspring may have undesirable traits meant for survival? There's a good reason why the alpha dominants, not just with humans, but with other monkeys and great apes, always had the largest selection of females while the bottom feeders have a much harder time and a far more limited selection
Also same reason why women and children scream upon being scared, its all sub-conscious responses meant to alert other males in their pack for protection.
Gapejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:33:23 № 13983403 [Quote]
rape is healthy
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:34:43 № 13983421 [Quote]
its bad because it causes harm to the victim and you wouldn't like it vice versa, christcucks are so stupid
Dylanjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:38:18 № 13983466 [Quote]
>>13983394 ancient humans didnt live in systems like a lions pride, humans were monogamous and sticked around other monogamous couples for safety and to gain food, to raise a child there needs to be both a man and a woman to raise it but under rape the man disappears and the child does not get both necessary parts of being raised creating an poorly rounded and uneducated offspring
Norwegian 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:41:28 № 13983497 [Quote]
>>13983277 (OP) quite simple, would you wanna be raped?
probably not, morality is a simple agreement, I don't like [x] to happen to me, so I won't do [x] to you
along with that, nigger behavior, like rape, murder, stealing, usually degrades a society over time, I mean look at muttland, in some cities they need to tie trackers to make sure it does not get stolen, that's how bad it is
Also the bible doesn't really say rape is bad, in deuteronomy, it says
“If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
along with that in the book of Joshua, the men of Israel take a bunch of virgins from the concurred nations to be their sex slaves, and in judges, the story of the Levite and his concubine, they steal a bunch of women from a party to have mas their wives(sex slaves), compare this to Hammurabi, in 1900 bc, a few hundred years before, he made it law in the Babylonian empire, that any man who rapes a virgin is killed and the women goes free
it turns out a desert shithole turns out really shit religons…. who would have thought…..
Bobson 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:44:22 № 13983533 [Quote]
>>13983520 were social creatures, anti social behavior is simply against our nature
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:54:05 № 13983632 [Quote]
>>13983497 >>13983421 >>13983533 This doesn't prove rape is bad, this just proves you think rape is bad. Is it okay for me to rape if I like being raped myself?
<along with that, nigger behavior, like rape, murder, stealing, usually degrades a society over time, I mean look at muttland, in some cities they need to tie trackers to make sure it does not get stolen, that's how bad it is Why should someone care if society degrades? If life truly has no meaning and there is no objective reason to do anything, why should you care about people following made up rules by higher elites? Because it keeps other people safer? Why should that matter?
geeeeeeeg, we aren't jews, retard.
SLF 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:55:27 № 13983662 [Quote]
>>13983632 if you like it you would probably consent to it, making it not rape. christcuck argument
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:55:59 № 13983669 [Quote]
>>13983662 So murder is fine if the other party consents to it?
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:56:21 № 13983676 [Quote]
Rape is bad if the one being raped is a virgin
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:56:39 № 13983679 [Quote]
>>13983632 Christkikes are jews, retard
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:56:49 № 13983680 [Quote]
>>13983632 >>13983676 >Is it okay for me to rape if I like being raped myself? How about miss circle raping you? It'd be so humiliating to get penetrated by a woman… A woman with a cock… A sexy futa. You in mating press, Miss Circle vigorously fucking you, her tits slapping against your shoulders, her balls slapping against your ass.
Amerimutt 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:57:53 № 13983688 [Quote]
>>13983680 I won't tell you who i was specifically since i prefer to stay anonymous, especally after seeing so many namefags get banned and shamed so easily for their identity, but i can tell you that i was one of the small handful of FPE forcers who started to force it from the very beginning back in, i think April or may of 2024, during the Froot era, i regret those sins and brims of past times becuase deep down in my soul, How about miss circle raping you? It'd be so humiliating to get penetrated by a woman… A woman with a cock… A sexy futa. You in mating press, Miss Circle vigorously fucking you, her tits slapping against your shoulders, her balls slapping against your ass. or something
Jager 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:58:06 № 13983690 [Quote]
>>13983662 Alright, "like" might be a misnomer term, how about "indifferent"? If someone is completely indifferent to the idea of rape, would he be justified in raping?
>>13983679 Read past the old testament, then. Tard. There's an entire other testament where God comes and tells jews they're gay.
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:58:35 № 13983701 [Quote]
>>13983669 you mean like snuff? if they consented to it then yeah its not really a problem
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:59:03 № 13983705 [Quote]
trvke thats why atheists are all immoral
Lennonjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:59:18 № 13983708 [Quote]
>>13983701 So you believe that if a child were to hypothetically consent to being raped and murdered, it is okay to rape and murder said child?
Applejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:59:33 № 13983709 [Quote]
>>13983680 Fucking kill yourself faggot
Minion 11/15/25 (Sat) 18:59:49 № 13983713 [Quote]
>>13983688 I do like hearing testimonies like this, all power to you
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:00:02 № 13983715 [Quote]
>>13983708 nigger what are you talking about
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:00:49 № 13983725 [Quote]
'ape is not bad doe
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:01:02 № 13983731 [Quote]
>>13983717 Unfortunate to see that one forcer hasn't repented
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:01:14 № 13983735 [Quote]
>>13983715 What I said, retard. If a child were to hypothetically be able to consent and consented to be murdered and raped, would this make the act acceptable? If you are consistent in your beliefs then this must be an acceptable thing.
Bapepe 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:01:50 № 13983744 [Quote]
>>13983690 well if he's harming someone and knows what hes doing than no he's not justified
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:02:24 № 13983753 [Quote]
I want to remain anonymous, especially since many fake names are easy to hide. I think it's my favorite reason. Like I said, it's my soul, so wake up the phone. contract with the social mask.<Time is running out <Fast distance <Square Red
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:02:56 № 13983760 [Quote]
>>13983744 Why is he not justified? If he doesn't care if it happened to him it shouldn't matter if he does it to others. At least if morality is a agreement between two parties
Fingerboy 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:02:57 № 13983761 [Quote]
Popular and famous stuff, so I like what I like more and get the best for fpe in the column.<space with a star <fast space <Repddloop location
Glowie 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:04:16 № 13983771 [Quote]
>>13983735 wtf do you mean "hypothetically" children can not consent and do not have an understanding of any of those concepts. it is wrong
Platejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:05:44 № 13983785 [Quote]
>>13983771 >children can not consent and do not have an understanding of any of those concepts. Yes, that is why I said "hypothetically", that's what a hypothetical is. Could you tell me how you would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:06:28 № 13983794 [Quote]
>>13983784 Well, I consent to it so if morality is an agreement between two parties it must be moral
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:06:39 № 13983796 [Quote]
>>13983760 the problem is the harm, he doesn't want to feel harm and so he shouldn't apply it to others. regardless if the specific instance wouldn't harm him back
Dylanjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:07:01 № 13983801 [Quote]
>>13983784 GO PACK TO /POL/
NOW Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:07:06 № 13983803 [Quote]
>>13983794 No I specifically said without the nigger's consent
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:07:26 № 13983805 [Quote]
>>13983796 What if he wants to feel harm?
Rupturejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:07:43 № 13983811 [Quote]
>>13983803 Yeah but I consent so there are two parties which consent
Award 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:08:03 № 13983815 [Quote]
>>13983805 than he's not being harmed, wtf are these arguments geggg award
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:08:47 № 13983830 [Quote]
>>13983785 there's no hypothetical to this situation, children can not consent.
Don Turtelli 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:12:31 № 13983906 [Quote]
>>13983815 He is not being harmed but the same act would harm someone else if he did it to them. This is what I am trying to get at. Trying to just say "You wouldn't like x therefore x is wrong" is retarded because either party can have differing opinions on this act and it is entirely dependent on the opinions of both parties which is inherently subjective. Trying to use subjective metrics to objectively define morality is braindead
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:12:59 № 13983914 [Quote]
>>13983830 What if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
Cirrus 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:13:47 № 13983929 [Quote]
>>13983914 I did have breakfast this morning
PPP 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:14:21 № 13983940 [Quote]
>>13983914 then i would be hungry, you are a fucking weirdo for trying to apply hypotheticals to a situation like that
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:15:28 № 13983960 [Quote]
>>13983940 The hypothetical is about consistency and taking your stance to it's logical extreme. Your only rebuttal is not understanding what a hypothetical is.
Nulljak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:18:51 № 13983989 [Quote]
>>13983497 >quite simple, would you wanna be raped? That is not how things work
some people have fetishes and that would make them want to be raped that doesn't automatically mean rape is moral
also if you kill someone in self defense that is not immoral just because the other person doesn't want to die you still have a right to defend yourself
Hunky Twink Sex Machine 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:21:16 № 13984006 [Quote]
>>13983974 I do not believe they can, the hypothetical is if by some means they would be able to. If this were to be the case, would you find this act okay? My view is a obvious "fuck no" because I have a definition of morality that isn't based on "whether both parties consent to the act". But you gave your definition of morality which i am now asking you to be consistent on. Seemingly you are too retarded to understand hypotheticals which implies a level of intelligence about right for your stance on morality as a whole fuggen jerdee
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:22:17 № 13984014 [Quote]
>>13983906 the general consensus is that people don't like being raped, you are trying to imagine a 1/10000 type of person to argue my point which is like trying to argue that humans have 10 fingers just because someone could be born with 11.
Meximutt 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:23:49 № 13984025 [Quote]
>>13984014 consensus is still subjective you fucking retard o algo
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:25:05 № 13984040 [Quote]
>>13984006 yes and I'm telling you there's no "would be able to" when it comes to situations like that, simple as
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:25:54 № 13984049 [Quote]
>>13984040 So you do not understand hypotheticals
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:27:46 № 13984071 [Quote]
>>13984014 This is heavily dependent on the society you live in. Some societies consider certain acts bad, others don't. Indians think shitting in the streets is a good act, if i saw human shit on my street I'd be quite disgusted and dislike it.
Shirtjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:29:20 № 13984087 [Quote]
>>13984006 So why in your scenario would it be amoral?
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:29:38 № 13984089 [Quote]
>>13984059 GEG this nigger looks like a wizard
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:30:18 № 13984093 [Quote]
>>13984089 of course he's the rape wizard
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:31:00 № 13984101 [Quote]
Rape won btw
Goopjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:31:06 № 13984103 [Quote]
>>13984087 I am not claiming my definition is objective, you are. So explain yourself. Trying to bounce back the question to me is gay and cowardly
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:33:05 № 13984129 [Quote]
>>13984049 I understand perfectly, think more about what you said in your initial argument
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:35:59 № 13984161 [Quote]
What makes (You) think christianity is the creator of all morality?
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:36:29 № 13984168 [Quote]
>>13984161 that the rapist pay the father 50 shekels of silver*
Massjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:37:17 № 13984179 [Quote]
>>13984129 I ask
>In a scenario where a child fully consents, would the act be okay? You only have to answer yes or no. It does not matter what is possible in our world, only what is possible in this hypothetical. Aswer the hypothetical
Bernd 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:38:07 № 13984190 [Quote]
>>13984161 Could you then provide the verse in the New Testament where it re-echoes this law?
Angryjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:38:32 № 13984192 [Quote]
>>13984181 So it would be okay to you to rape and murder a child if he or she consented?
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:39:28 № 13984204 [Quote]
>>13983348 You don't need to care about those, you could just get the benefits from a good reputation, like being able to ask others for help in whatever issue you get at the moment. It's like school, you don't need to care about whatever they're teaching you, but the benefit you get from paying attention is knowledge you could possibly use in the future o algo asi
Spadeson 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:39:35 № 13984207 [Quote]
>>13983277 (OP) thats because rape is good, stupid goyim
Evan 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:40:33 № 13984224 [Quote]
>>13984190 Why would an omniscient all-powerful god change his teachings? And also still avoided the main question of what makes you think that Christianity created morality.
Also, I can't find another quote that directly talks about rape in the New Testament. Could you find me one?
Etan 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:41:20 № 13984239 [Quote]
>>13984204 So morality does not objectively exist in atheistic worldview? got it
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:42:08 № 13984249 [Quote]
>>13984224 >Why would an omniscient all-powerful god change his teachings? Might want to read the book where that is explained rather than making statements on things you know jack shit about
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:42:49 № 13984263 [Quote]
>>13984221 This type of morality is what a pedo uses, more like. But that would require you to question your own beliefs
Evan 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:43:53 № 13984275 [Quote]
>>13984249 >doesnt answer the main question >ad hominem whats the point of a debate if you just say
>well maybe if you just read the book better you'd understand it instead of answering the question
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:45:00 № 13984285 [Quote]
>>13984161 hindus worship karma
Jews allow rape of all goyim
Only the true God of the holy bible exists
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:45:08 № 13984288 [Quote]
>>13984224 He didn't change them he fulfilled them on the Cross, if you would like a verse that echoes this: Romans 6:14
Brojak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:48:50 № 13984325 [Quote]
>>13984285 >hindus worship karma and how does that disprove the argument that "if the bible is the root of all morality how can this religion that predates the root of "all morality" have systems of morality that lines up with the standards of today"
i also added the jewish one because, ev&oe they rape goyim, they STILL have a morality system that can prove rape is bad
Colorjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:48:57 № 13984328 [Quote]
>>13984288 romans 6:14 (NLT), from paul a chosen apostle of god,
"Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God's grace."
Chok 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:50:03 № 13984342 [Quote]
>>13984325 also, the OP post says "you can not prove rape is bad without the bible", and when rape can be proven bad without the bible, then my argument still stands, no matter what the hindus worship
Plier 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:51:07 № 13984350 [Quote]
^uyhdfbfyubnj
Dylanjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:52:04 № 13984363 [Quote]
>>13984325 Because there are holes in hinduist ideology
Look in the reppeys for a shit ton of "what if" arguments
Look human nature, as in the majority of people who think bad things are bad, we think they are bad because GOD made us that way. his law in imprinted into our hearts we KNOW that bad things are bad, Athiests just cant explain why
Minion 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:52:53 № 13984370 [Quote]
>>13983711 I created the thread that led to that 'jak, geg
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:53:11 № 13984374 [Quote]
>>13984342 do hindus think their karma god judges based of intent or the action alone?
Raisinskin 11/15/25 (Sat) 19:58:26 № 13984429 [Quote]
>>13984363 Btw the verse that says this is Romans 2:15
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:00:00 № 13984438 [Quote]
rape bad
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:01:46 № 13984456 [Quote]
>>13984363 where are the "What if" arguments nigga
>>13984374 ??? what does that have to do with "not being able to prove rape is bad outside the bible"?? like christianity, they believe that both the intention and the action are important
https://lifeworthliving.yale.edu/resources/the-bhagavad-gita-on-intentions https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2016:7&version=NIV Chuck 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:02:24 № 13984461 [Quote]
>13984429
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:02:58 № 13984468 [Quote]
I'm not reading allat
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:04:32 № 13984478 [Quote]
>>13984363 also athiests do have reasons to explain why. humans developed compassion because compassion is a necessary skill to live together, and living together is the optimal way to live because the value of the support outweighs the sacrifice of needing to feed another. and since rape deeply damages the psyche of another, the subconscious compassion of a human sends the signal that the action is wrong.
Chudbob 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:04:54 № 13984480 [Quote]
>>13984456 suppose you do something, completely innoffensive to someone, and they take it to heart, like, they HATE you now. Whos to say whos invalid here
will you reincarnate as a peice of dung because someone got REALLY mad at you?
Hinduism has no CONCRETE ROCK SOLID set of rules like the bible has, hence why i said it has holes in it
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:05:36 № 13984489 [Quote]
>>13984478 humans developed physcopathy aswell
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:06:40 № 13984498 [Quote]
>>13984489 thats a mutation caused by environmental factors + genetics, not the rule.
Punkjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:07:30 № 13984508 [Quote]
>>13984498 So if everyone was a physcopath than being an empathetic person would be considered crazy,
its not good enough
Marge 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:07:56 № 13984511 [Quote]
>>13984480 being hateful is a vice and so it is negative karma
Platejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:09:25 № 13984525 [Quote]
>>13984508 still, the question asked why "we know in our hearts that bad things are bad", and i answered with compassion that was evolved over thousands of years
it answers the question
Rupturejak 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:09:33 № 13984526 [Quote]
>>13984263 ok, I will admit that morality is not absolute. I don't know if your still in this thread but have a good day
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:11:32 № 13984555 [Quote]
>>13984288 thank you for answering the question
i still dont understand it, but atleast its an answer
Norwegian 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:15:25 № 13984592 [Quote]
also:>all morality comes from the bible (which has been disproven multiple times) >you can not have objective morality with atheism (which is a hotly debated topic that philosophers have been thinking of for thousands of years)
SLF 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:16:12 № 13984601 [Quote]
>>13984525 evolution also created said rapists and tyrannical leaders that inact suffering upon individuals
>but god created rapists too! he created the ability to sin which we chose out of our own volition, we are by nature bad, not good.
faith in christ is when bad things happen and we still love him.
all goodness comes from god not from man or a majority agreement or the law, but from god
Chud 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:17:23 № 13984615 [Quote]
>>13984592 >Why are you arguing to prove your point? R u silly?
Goopjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:18:41 № 13984631 [Quote]
>>13984615 the 2 arguments are different?
that reppey was a way to say the moving the goalposts fallacy was in play here
Fartycuck 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:21:46 № 13984659 [Quote]
>>13984601 isnt this just the same thing
those rapists and tyrannical leaders were afflicted with having mental illnesses, like being a psychopath, sociopath, and other shit
thats genetics and environmental factors
and it STILL doesnt disprove the point that humans feel bad about rape because they evolved compassion over many years because they had to live in societies together and compassion is a skill needed to live in those said societies
Massjak 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:23:25 № 13984669 [Quote]
>>13984647 Actually its because we are more predisposed to fulfilling promises and forming high-trust communities. The White man by nature does not deceive, and rape is an act of deception.
Raisinskin 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:23:56 № 13984674 [Quote]
>>13984659 >were afflicted with having mental illnesses Says who? If suppressing compassion personally benefits you why shouldn't you do it, wouldn't acting compassionate when its against your best interest be mentally ill instead
Unknown 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:27:23 № 13984699 [Quote]
>>13984659 the point being debunked here is that
>Atheists cant explain why humans KNOW bad things are bad and i debunk this point by explaining how bad things that involve the harm of another person will trigger the subconscious need for humans to feel compassion and empathy (something i forgot to bring up), and compassion and empathy were both evolved by living in societies and living in societies optimal way of living blah blah blah.
you attempted to debunk this debunk by saying that evolution also created psychopaths, who cant feel empathy or compassion
i debunked this debunk by saying that they are exceptions created from bad genetics and environmental factors, and the vast majority of humans "KNOW" that bad things are bad
you then attempted to debunk this debunk by saying that evolution also created rapists and tyrannical rulers, which was already debunked in the first point. unless you are trying to say that rapists feel bad for raping, which can be explained by of course their subconscious empathy, which is overpowered by their need to rape (Which can be caused by a lot of things).
Gigafly 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:30:58 № 13984732 [Quote]
>>13984674 compassion and empathy are key to living in societies. the personal gain in the short term were never worth the consequences in the long run
if you, a member of a tribe, killed every other member in the tribe to get the foodstocks (which can be attributed to not b eing shackled by compassion and empathy), you will not be able to breed and will be forced to find another tribe to get into
if you let one woman live you would have someone to breed with, but the tribe would reproduce at a much slower rate and have less hands to work with, which would only leave food supply for you and your raped girl, and then incest between your children would make the children barely able to sustain themselves over generations, and your selfishness would've wiped out your bloodline at some point
Nophono 11/15/25 (Sat) 20:31:07 № 13984735 [Quote]
>>13984718 No need to source when you know the facts