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The way people treat politics nowadays is completely backwards.
Normally, it should go like this:
>Philosophy is acquired first, it explains moral values and pure political ideas.
>History is linearly learned after that because to understand the motivations behind all the historical events you must understand the ideas that caused them
>Politics, as in current day political news and discussions, comes last since it's the continuation of everything that preceded it.
But in today's society most people start off with politics. It's pushed everywhere because people will judge you for not participating in it. Conclusions are reached based on emotions and social pressure rather than actually thinking. Unlike learning philosophy, it's easy and rewarding to repeat political ideas because of the social applause you get from it. That's why people get indoctrinated so quickly into political ideologies. Some might delve deeper into history (and again they'll probably go backwards on it by starting from the modern day) but without proper understanding of philosophical ideas and logical thought, they will look at it through the lens of their adopted political ideology. And then they finally look at philosophy but once again they will likely use it just to reaffirm their already believed viewpoint and ignore ideas opposing it.
The reason people don't notice this is because it makes them feel like they're getting smarter by going deeper while all it does is solidify them in their false conclusions.
Examples:
>clittycel watches a vril edit on ig reels
>starts watching nazipilled vids on youtube
>looks at history trying to find jews and based germanics everywhere
>joins the nazi network to find other wholesome natsocs
>gets recommended and reads exclusively the authors like nietzche or hitler or smth
<foid hears something about socialism from one of her friends
<starts watching breadtubers on youtube
<fills her tiktok feed with commie 'ganda
<looks at history trying to find the burgerois and based proletariat everywhere
<gets recommended and reads exclusively authors like marx or engels or smth
And no, I'm not different than this. I also fell for this trap, hence why I'm on this website. I'm just sharing this thought I had to maybe give some of you a reality check.
^posted it on r9k award

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>>86094 (OP)
good points there
though people have always been ignorant throughout times, most the time people who "are" into politics nowadays are just participating in it due to social media making it 100x more accessible, than actually watching documentaries or high value reports. its all about information being absorbed the fastest nowadays and what memes spread the most effectively
thats why the "esoteric" circles are filled to the brim with these cacas

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>>86094 (OP)
I unfortunately fell straight into the commie larp when I was like 12, but then I had a really good philosophy teacher who taught me all the basics, and I've always been interested in history. So in the end it kinda works out I guess. I think one thing you forget is to learn some economics before politics. Modern day Politics is a shitflinging contest over social issues and is niggerhell for this, if people were more educated about economic aspects, as in, the things that actually affect your life, people would vote a lot better and most of these liberal bullshit parties wouldn't be able to get by, like both parties in america, the reform, tory and labour parties in the uk, etc, they are all liberal parties with the same economic principle of "suck off billionaire dick and import a gorillion jeets for cheap labour". Nobaldi should care whether or not gay marriage is legal, or if the kikes are killing sandniggers again. These are personal and foreign problems respectively. A large part of the french revolution was to remove the states control over your individual life, which is why france is a secular country. The government should have no say on what you do past banning obviously criminal activity and preventing that. I don't give a fuck if some faggot wants to get married to xis bvll, or if a foid is getting her fourteenth abortion because she doesn't want to use condoms. Thats their problem, not mine. The government should focus on the large scale issues that an individual cannot control, like large infrastructure, emergency services, defence, economy, etc.

 β„–86134[Quote]

tsmt, nowadays with the internet politics is just virtue signalling and having surface level beliefs just for attention and likes
this whole save evropa juice box thing is just a phase for normies, they're gonna move to the next big social media trend just as quickly they adopted this thing and keep going like this, this is ultimately what the ruling class wants so they are never seriously threatened
democracy and internet will act as the perfect illusions of control as a normie thinks he is enlightened just because he spams juice box emojis and reads on the epstein files

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>>86094 (OP)
Even then, clittycels, foids, and most normalfags don't put the effort of reading text/political writings and studying theory/philosophy, and simply parrot what the echochamber they allocate their attention to in their spare time says, and determine their ideology from a quote. It was this ignorance that I observed in high school, at family reunions, and at university that motivated me to study political science in my free time. Ever since then, hearing the aforementioned talk about politics is not intimidating, but more so bothersome.
<reddit space
This has been amplified by the internet, but I imagine this was an issue pre-internet. In the past (the past is established up until 1945), that if you wanted to get into politics, you would put effort into studying and reading political philosophy (i.e. essays, lectures, and manifestos), which involved patience and discipline that most lack today. Whereas now, politics has been reduced to being seen as "based" or "destroying [opposer]". With like you mentioned, the internet has discharged people of any degree of nuance, instead of viewing politics as a spectrum, they view politics as extremely binary. I find individuals such as Charlie Kirk, Hasan Piker, Nick Fuentes, and other prominent names to be those who attributed to this mentality, and as a result find repulsive. I also dislike that the approach and attitude to politics now involved little discussion about philosophy and ideas, but simply discussing drama about people and events that have happened multiple times in history before. I also find Asmongold and Paul Joseph Watson to be indifferent from the news media that they criticize, their daily uploads are the same "People have had enough", "People are noticing", "It's worse than you think". No thought provoking content, just content that manipulates the emotions of people ("react don't think" mentality).

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>>86187
A lot of people focus on aesthetics rather than making cohesive sense. Whether it be hammer & sickle, black sun, or a nation flag, more emphasis is placed on decorating the aforementioned than the ideology itself. Entertainment, such as music has attributed to this. Punk to be more specific, the whole genre is focused on having politics be entirely binary, and in some cases is self contradicting. An example that comes to mind is rage against the machine, on their 2022 tour, for the song freedom, they displayed a factoid saying "freedom in a country where gun violence is the leading cause of death of children and teenagers" which is comical given Tom Morello (corporate shill btw), plays a guitar that has "Arm the homeless" on it. And from what I've seen, this motivates many normgroids to get into politics and base their ideology around appearance and aligning with entertainment instead of forming their own opinions. Honorable mention to redditards who use fictional characters to convict themselves as morally righteous. Another example is Che Guevara, I've read about him, and find the whole "He's a freedom fighter saint" or "He was oppressive" to be redundant, those who wear a shirt of him, have likely never read/studied him, and are simply wearing for the aesthetic of being edgy/counter culture.

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>>86188
I dislike how most people think of everything as "left" or "right" leaning in politics, when those terms are somewhat arbitrary and reveal nothing of the philosophy of an individual what so ever. Another thing I find annoying, is how both sides misinterpret data, and re contextualize it to fit a narrative. I imagine you're familiar with the term "soyience". Alot of 'teens on this site still partake in soyience like behavior, specifically when it comes to the topic of race. G25 coordinates are somewhat misinterpreted and flawed in retrieving (how is accuracy ensured in the genetic coordinates being input into the software), as well as for ancestral phenotype (neglecting how many traits are not exclusive to one group). This issue is very prominent when it comes to the topic of intelligence. Having read "The Bell Curve", I can confidentially say that those espouse and disavow the findings of the book have never read it. Most only focus on chapter 13 (Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability). While entirely ignoring the other 21 chapters, which provide further context, and explain the relation (i.e. fertility, welfare dependency, crime, parenting, and class partitioning). Most lack the patience to read the book fully as it's quite long, and doesn't provide instant gratification that a jewtube video would give you.

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>>86189
To conclude this on a positive note, I do have some recommendations for anyone who'd like to dwelve more into politics properly, most of these are on internet archive if you don't want to pay for a book.
>Political Philosophy A Beginner's Guide for Students and Politicans by Adam Swift
Covers the concepts and variations of justice, liberty, equality, and community
>Political Philosophy by Alan Gewirth
Compendium book containing works from Thomas Hobbes, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, John Locke, Karl Marx, and John Stuart Mill
>Theory an Methods in Political Science by David Marsh and Gerry Stoker

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>Philosophy is acquired first, it explains moral values and pure political ideas.
>History is linearly learned after that because to understand the motivations behind all the historical events you must understand the ideas that caused them
>Politics, as in current day political news and discussions, comes last since it's the continuation of everything that preceded it.

 β„–86192[Quote]

Politics are at most, a surrogate activity, especially online. Most of the reasons why online politics are a negative net is mainly because it provoked masses of people selling you The Truthβ„’. Even though you learn philosophy and the fundamentals of it first, it wouldn't matter to the eyes of normgroids because they believe their ideology will save them of their misery, even though ideologies have little role in how you take care of yourself or handle life. Utopias rarely change your life.

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>>86192
Truth nvke
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