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No idea where else to write this as realizing i essentially have no friends who i can relate to, but I have realised that being obsessively interested in the lookism circles the manosphere/pills of the internet, progressing from the redpill "hustle" and "grindset" sigma culture to then the blackpill and lookism since 2022 whenever that raisinty mewing and sigma shit memes blew up, from the youtube circle involving initially hamza, tate, fitxfearless, to then fitxfintess, to then WW, FaceandLMS, to then IncelTV (rehab) and DBDR, made me realise that "yo, i might actually just be autistic and insufferable to be around"
Like, honestly if i met another person who shared my similar "interests" or similar backstory, and they actively follow these people, I would be subconciously be thinking that "jesus, this fucking guy is a loser lmao" or that if i met another soyjak.party/4chan user irl i would feel disgusted being around them.
This is going to be a bit of a ramble but being involved in these circles has provided nothing but making me cynical and jaded around people, it makes me nearly non-functional in my workplace knowing the psychology of why some people act a certain way around others (lookism). I feel like I've poisoned myself and lost my childlike wonder knowing that a lot of human interaction is based on subconscious calculations and measurements of "normalness" and how much a person can provide certain benefit to each other, which is why i just do the bare minimum at my wagie cafe job and barely have to interact with customers outside of necessary pleasantries.
Anyway, what was I saying? right, my main point is that interacting within these niche internet circles doesn't really provide you any good (unless you actually have access to good networking opportunities or have a severe physical disadvantage, that of which you CAN solve with plastic/bone surgery) and most likely if you have discovered these circles on your own volition, its a sign that you are just a social reject and making up for lost social interactions by interacting with these extremist sub-cultures.
Normal people don't obsess over "social skills" or "game" or "Looks". They just live life and have fun connections with others without questioning themselves all the time.
So go out and live your life.
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>>85858
is this a bot
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>>85857 (OP)OP serious question when’s the last time you’ve had a conversation with a woman (outside of work and family). Women aren’t a question waiting to be solved or something you need to conquer, so lookism isn’t a sustainable solution to having healthy and happy relations with women. You don’t like other people because they don’t share your micro interests? That’s because lookism is flawed- if a poor ugly dude can get a decent relationship (because he has developed a good personality, something you have yet to do), then that means that you can too so you have no excuses. No, women are not out to get you, and maybe if you started talking to more of them you’d understand this
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>>85860I've seen like 5 posts exactly like this before so yeah probably
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>>85863to answer that question, it's probably been several years. outside of work, the only conversations i've had with women is that with related to schoolwork, and even then it was shallow bs about giving eachother homework answers or discussions about what plans to do in our volunteering and trips etc.
Honestly I don't think I've had a consistent friendship with a woman outside of business/school, or a mutual agreement simply because we shared the same space
I feel like the dynamic is a lot different between male-male friendships compared to male-female friendships, or that I've just been experiencing years of soft-rejection and can't view relationships with women the same. Like I just cannot subconsciously view women as equal to men
I don't know how to process this but I'd give anything to stop being so jaded and I just want to stop being such a bitch to be around
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>>85866Outside of lookism/image boards/internet culture, what interests do you have? What short term/long term goals do you have in life? Could be wanting to be more fit, make more money, get good at chess, idk. Let’s start there
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>>85869I don't know what my long term goals are honestly apart from not losing my sanity and being stable
I consume a lot of creative content, like a lot of music across genres, and I'm interested in video game writing as a hobby, possibly want to start modding for fallout 1/2. Played the shit out of every game in the franchise, (1,2 + all the wellknown mods for those, so 1.5, sonora, nevada, olympus, and then 3,nv,4, hell even 76 and bos) and the DLC in it. Do also like STALKER franchise, generally playing interesting games with good storytelling is the only way i find connections to others, since hobbies/videos around those spaces are great. Warlockracy the GOAT.
I gymcel 4x a week but I don't play any sport. I only wageslave at my job due to dropping out and just living with my mother. Like I said I have been at my cafe job for a year now, interacting with co-workers is just for pleasantries and im deeply afraid of trying to start friendships in there
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meant to say tactics not bos, jesus
afaik bos is a steaming pile of shit and only on console, been ages since i've played it but yeah
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>>85857 (OP)ive been in the blackpill/lookism community for too long and have seen too many truths regarding women, looks, and dating that I am unable to form a proper relationship with any girl around me
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>>85875vat arr yoo ganna duu
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>>85885It was funny reading the post, I skipped the whole redpill side and dove in at the deep end straight to rehab room. For me I'm not particularly ugly, I don't have fucked up face symmetry, I'm not a manlet or largely overweight. I think its purely mental.
Spending too much time obsessing over everything being about looks doesn't help the mental part. A lot of BP content overrates looks, ofc they matter but people are less disturbed by a slightly ugly normal dude than they are a normal looking autist. Neurodivergency is the biggest put-off. I might have Ass burgers of some flavour, haven't gotten it diagnosed, but I've been friends with autists for most of my life and generally they were really nice people that you could have some actually entertaining conversations with about stuff, but they would always either be completely alone or only have 1-2 other friends. If you're ugly, you can still live a mostly normal life, have friends, etc, you might get made fun of a bit as a kid and you will struggle getting a girlfriend but thats it. If you're neurodivergent, you're fucked, in those key moments in the ages of 4-14 where you were meant to be living life without a care and spending time with friends you were probably alone, bullied, socially outcast, and for the rest of your education life until the end of uni you will have learnt how to mask well enough to not get bullied necessarily, but since you missed out on the key social skill building as a caca you will struggle to connect with anybody. People can kind of smell loneliness. Its in peoples eyes. If you never really had friends, they can tell, and they assume that it was for a reason and will therefore avoid you. You don't even have to be an insufferable autist for this to happen. Just different enough that people can tell, and kick you out for it as a child.
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>>85896truthtsar bomba
its like people subconsciously KNOW that your brain is on an entirely different operational mode
the uncanny valley and threat detection of level 1 autism /high levels of abused dog syndrome make re-integration to a normal social life is incredibly difficult
you just have to accept that you have to hang with not bottom of the barrel people but, your only spaces where people dont take pity on you are pretty much people within your looks/neurotypicality levels
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I will admit that in some sense, it is brainrot. If you let yourself become jaded and depressed from it, you will become an insufferable asshole. But on the other hand, what the incel/bp YouTubers (especially my favorite Rehab Room) taught me is to just stop taking your life so seriously. Most of your life was decided before you were born. Your attractiveness, height, IQ, wealth, whether or not you're neurodiverse, your lived experiences, etc. At least 80% of your life's trajectory has been determined for you during the first trimester.
>my main point is that interacting within these niche internet circles doesn't really provide you any good
In some sense the BP has actually helped me cope quite a bit. It helps me temper my expectations and has actually (somewhat ironically considering how many incels are bitter assholes like ER) made me less hateful and more accepting of other people. I think a lot of hatred and bitterness stems from the idea that certain characteristics of people are malleable. When you finally understand that different people's experiences and genetics play the majority of the role in how they act and view the world, you really can't be angry at them. I do agree with the BP ideology, but I don't actually hate women, even if they are inherently hypergamous and duplicitous and whatnot.
If you were meant to succeed, eventually you will, and if you weren't, you won't. It's that simple. The only thing you can actually do is observe the world and attempt to let the truth guide you. Don't be a free agent in life.
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>>85902i mean, how can you even say what rehab talks about in a public setting? or you just dont at all
i applied bp in the workforce and just kept my head down, kept pleasant enough to be with my coworkers (despite it being 90% female) and all of my bosses are fucking female. absolute suifuel working for women in a shitty cafe job
i know they all probably have a disdain for me since im prob like a 6 at best and im 5’11, however im not that socially suave nor motivated enough to care about their lives, so most times whenever its quiet i just stick to myself and practice making drinks or whatever
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>>85905Unoriginal content! You have been muted for 0 seconds.
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hi nophono read that
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>>85902You understood the meaning of "don't be a free agent in life". That is the lesson to learn from the BP. It isn't to rage and hate everyone. It is to accept that this is how things are, they won't change because you crashed out and caused a fuss, if anything they will only get worse because autists will be avoided in case they were like you. A lot has been decided for you in the character select screen before you even got control, and then more was picked for you in those first ~10 years where you didn't have enough self-consiousness or agency to do anything about it. If like DBDR you got a shit genetic/wealth makeup, got a parent that instead of helping you fight back, or at least comforting you, told you that the people bullying you must have problems at home so its ok, it isn't over for you, it never began. Being a "free agent" and trying to change your life is pointless. You are an insect in a whirlpool. Fighting the current won't free you, so just lay back and try to enjoy your life as it is, you float better when still on your back than if you thrash around.
The point of the BP isn't to hang yourself, shoot people or to be angry all the time. It is to accept the way things are, to not get your hopes too high, and to not look like your average oofy-doofy that is clowning around trying to do things that his looks/status clearly won't let him, then sitting around wondering why it isn't working. If you don't get your hopes high, you won't be disappointed if shit hits the fan, and if it goes well, why are you complaining? Don't be like those jeets trying to ask people out in the street, getting rejected for the 50th time and being told to fuck off, then spouting some shit about "She must have been having a bad day". Have that ability to self-reflect, look at yourself, if you are a 5 foot 2 shitskin manlet with a beer gut and a mid face, you aren't cut out for this.
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>>85978ND is terrible, if you are 7+ you have some hope but anything below and you probably won't ever get a girl. Whats bad is that it even a 4/10 can betabuxx, but if you are a mega autist the girl will think you are going to kill her so no shot there either. People won't even want to settle for you later in life if you are sub-5 and ND
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>>85981>>85978NDpill is law
theres one guy in my place who is legit 5'7 and looks like a gymcel but due to being socially normal and he acc engages in uni societies, he can talk to multiple girls during our shifts, making him better at work. hes a normal guy but i feel a bit intimidated knowing he just performs better despite being shorter, meanwhile i can talk to like one and thats only because shes obese (im not attracted to her, so theres not really much tension)