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didn't put supersage in the right textbar award
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>>74731homosexuality vvon
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>>74731No one cares christcuck
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fakeuglycel alert men don't want me either
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>>74738<YOULL GET AIDS!!!nusois don’t realise that being gay doesn’t automatically give you aids. if you’re heterosexual you could very much get aids too if you’re unlucky enough.
<ITS WRONGbeing happy is wrong? i’m not hurting anyone and it’s not your problem, how does my personal life effect you that much GEG
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>>74759>nusois don’t realise that being gay doesn’t automatically give you aids. if you’re heterosexual you could very much get aids too if you’re unlucky enough. Fags are more likely to get it. It's mostly caused by Anal sex wich is inherently degenerate either ways
>being happy is wrong? i’m not hurting anyone and it’s not your problem, how does my personal life effect you that much GEGSo Incest should be legal? The reason any human with any natural instincts hates you because your kind is litterally known for spreading diseases, pedophilia and all sorts of sexual perversions into society. You also heavily decrease the Birth rates of said societies and destroy the family unit
>i’m not hurting anyone and it’s not your problem, how does my personal life effect you that much GEGI won't be there when you are crying and screaming in hell.
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Yeah well how do I get into a fag relationship while being closeted
I have a significantly easier time asking girls out since I don’t want to reveal myself to a guy I find attractive and they’re straight and it ruins everytjing
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>>74731>>74757>>74766Religiousfagging on the doxxing, cados asshole, suicide promoting shitpost website GEG
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>>74766wow you must live a fucking miserable life nigga
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>>74757>>74766>god hates fags>pulse nightclub shooter glorificationYou're both fake online christian larpers that would get shat on by your local pastor/priest
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I tried hanging out with fags and they were really annoying
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>>74770Actually OP is the one proselytizing here
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>>74773Why are you still using this website then?
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>>74773Yeah they are, that’s honestly the worst conundrum in my faggotry mental illness. I make an active effort to avoid faggots who make it something special about themselves because the quality of their character is always compromised. That leaves me with probably being unable to find someone who thinks like me however.
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>>74730 (OP)Wholesome, I'm happy for you
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>>74769>wow you must live a fucking miserable life niggaI'm not the one who was molested
>You get it from having sex with multiple random people which OP isn't doingMost fags did have multiple partners in their life lol
>you are likely a projecting fag yourself if you care this deeply about OPs relationship when he's not hurting anyoneThis is just a pornagraphic fantasy for fags who require everyone to be a traumatized sexual deviant for their nonsensical world view to make sense. Not to mention there's articles doing the same with pedophilia and most pro Fag studies don't meet the APA's actual standards.
>fun fact about the guy he's glorifyingThe same site admits the FBI found zero evidence and it was huge fag copium and attention whoring by his retarded whore wife. Cope harder fags Mateen is in heaven
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>>74781I'm not a /pol/nigger geg
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>>74784double digit amount of people on this site looks like this
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>>74784I hate TCC and Satanfags doebeit.
I praise Mateen for being a pious man who killed Sinners and Pagans
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>>74793
Weak Hadith doe
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>>74793
Fags have fictional pedophilia stories saved.
Go figure
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>>74796
Posted Weak Hadith again award
David Wood has brainrot knowledge stop watching it.
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>>74796
>Literally on the 'ru retard
Yet you saved it and are obsessed with it?
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>>74799
This is a counter argument. You posted weak hadiths wich makes your brainrot argument invalid
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>>74800Retard or bait doe
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Homophobia is pure gynocentrism and misandry. The entire taboo exists to protect female sexual gatekeeping and keep society revolving around pussy. The second two dudes can just pair off and be emotionally and sexually fulfilled without ever needing a woman’s validation, the gynocentric house of cards collapses. Women instantly lose their monopoly on intimacy, affection, sex, and status-signaling. Suddenly the average guy isn’t forced to wagecuck, looksmaxx, statusmaxx, and orbit roasties for scraps, he can just meet up with a cute femboy who’s tighter, less entitled, and actually loyal. That terrifies the female imperative, so society brands any non-vagina-oriented male attraction as the ultimate sin. Homophobia isolated men and turned them into competing cucks. The only ones who benefit from homophobia are females and the top 5% of men. Everyone else gets told to "man up" and keep simping. There is no coherent counter-argument against this. "Muh natural order" is just cope, nature doesn’t give a shit as long as genes get passed. Only tradcucks and feminists (which are basically the same) will seethe at homosexualKINGs.
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>>74806Faggot version of a feminist geg
>DA FUGGIN MATRIARCHY №74818[Quote]
>>74808I don't follow jewish laws
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Dejfnrlsk
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>>74825I don't follow italoshitskin laws
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>>74830self proclaimed “femboys” are different to true femboys who don’t flaunt what they are. they just happen to be cute looking more feminine boys not the ugly ass troon skirt and mask thigh high combo
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>>74818So you give into something Jews push instead. Genius.
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Put this whole thread to the torch.
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>>74806>The only ones who benefit from homophobia are females and the top 5% of menThat never happened. Foids love fags
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>>74830That's messed up considering i live not very far away from this place
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>>74767I still have this question
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>>74871You start by putting a bullet into your head or smh
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>>74873Your leakage is too profitable for me to uproot this gegerald operation
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>>74874Not true. Bullying fags gives me Energy
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>>74875enough to spend all day on this thread for 12 hours
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>>74876Not true. I just woke up from my 10 hour sleep
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>>74878women are beautiful and they vvon, anyone who denies this is a mentally ill incel faggot
And think about the long-term future and how the people around you and your family would think?
Your family will forever be disgusted and ashamed of you, for your parents to raise you all this time to grow up a fag who is disgusting and will never bring grand children, for you to become a joke to everyone, for everyone to talk bad behind you everytime and for your parents to become disgraced for raising a homo
but think if you got a cute girlfriend/wife, your parents and family would be proud and happy, and think about having a child and a nice family instead of growing old to become two disgusting raisin wrinkly old men who love each other without any youthful looks which just looks disgusting
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>>74879homosexuality is incredibly short-term, such as with the ideas of femboys, its all about neotony and youthful looks in a young man so that he looks feminine, but there will always be aging, so homos for a certain period of time might feel good and genuinely feel love because they're young and look youthful and feminine which covers up the physiological repuslion to homosexuality, but as people age and life gets tougher, homos will always grow up to regret not finding a wife and having children and raising a family and time spend as a young man being a homo will be 100% regretted and the faggot will live his entire life in regret and shame, time kills all homos
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Gjrjrbndlsdn
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TFD christniggers seething is funny doe
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>>74917Not about this doe. Even doe Idolatry is obviously worse
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>>74932I already debunked this before
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>>74942SNCA before decades ago + faggots spread pedophilia more then any other group
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>>74943Posted the weak Hadith again award
Posted xis fantasies again award
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>>74958Sigh i couldn't see this coming thanks to you i don't take anyone serious here anymore
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>>74878i don’t have anal sex we just do stuff without anal and it works out
>>74879i’m not saying that women aren’t beautiful because they are, i just personally don’t like most of their personalities it ruins it for me. don’t try put words in mine or my families mouth nigger, they aren’t disgusted by me at all and always encourage that i bring my boyfriend over because they absolutely love him and think he’s great for me. i have siblings which one already has kids so they aren’t going to lack in the grandchildren department. your thinking is twisted and you’re honestly nothing but wrong, you make me laugh with how fucking wrong you are lmfao. there’s no reason to seethe over a relationship you’ve heard about online and try convince me that my joy, love, and happiness is disgusting because all you’re doing is embarrassing yourself and making it increasingly obvious that you’re lonely.
>>74930not lonely, not an incel, but i am gay
>>74932TRVKE
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>takes antidepressants
>becomes a faggot
Many such cases, never go to a the-rapist, chuds.
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anyway, i love my boyfriend. he is the love of my life. we have never argued, we take care of each other, we both provide, we both make sure each other feels loved, i wake up and feel like im living in paradise every day. it’s his birthday soon and i can’t wait to spoil him like he deserves. just thinking about him and typing this makes me all giddy i just love him so much and no one will understand until they find their soulmate (doesn’t have to be gay, but you’ll know the feeling when you’re truly in love and have found your soulmate). keep hating with your sad incel lives while i am the happiest person on earth with a loving bf, amazing family, great group of friends, and endless freedom. i’ll be here having the most fulfilling life while you rot in your room complaining and screaming over “birth rates” when you can’t even get a gf yourself
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gas this thread
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nusois can’t stand that fact that homosexuality VVON
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>>74730 (OP)I call fag larp unless concrete proof is provided that what you say is true
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>>74758I'm an atheist and homosexuality is wrong.
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>>74994No one looks like that doe
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>>74986how would you like me to prove it?
>>74994yes because i want to grow old with him. we will both look like that. if i’m an old ass man i don’t want a young looking femboy because age gaps are gross and it would feel weird. personally i wouldn’t be comfortable with it.
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Hueechteefb
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>>74979Fuck reading that makes me realize i’ll probably not have that level of intimacy with a man and be happy in that regard. I feel so alone in my bisexuality since I feel disgusted by every fag I’ve met and have made an active effort to avoid interacting with them. Anyone I develop a crush on is very much straight and wouldn’t be into me. My friends would likely be disgusted by this mental illness I have. I’d love to meet someone that is like me in personality and looks but thats never happening. At least my attraction to women is my saving grace.
>>75006GEEEEEEEEEG
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>>75012Take the wormpill
Eat healthy
Stop gooning
Do 100 push ups every day
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>>74994Same shit happens to foids
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>>75018you don’t do this
Yall clitty leakers are more obsessed with sodomy than the fags are
no where in my fag post did I imply I only desire men sexually
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>>75018I stopped gooning and it made me more gay
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>>75021Doesn't matter you are still Queer. And yes i didn't do this but i still aspire to
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>>74999idk, maybe a pic or something along those lines
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>>75039are you top or bottom? are you twink or twunk?
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>>75040neither of us are tops or bottoms, we just go with the flow and take turns i guess. no pressure to be one or the other just whatever works in the moment.
i don’t really think either of us fit into the gay archetypes like twink etc. if. i had to choose one i think both of us could be described as otters just the difference being that im shorter than him
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>>75039What were your families reaction/how do they treat you?
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>>74730 (OP)molochian bait that everybaldi fell for
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>>75044families didn’t have that big of a reaction. they both didn’t see it coming at all but are very supportive. he comes over to my house probably like 3-5 times a week and my father absolutely loves him. he helps cook, garden, and would do anything for my family and i. his family is also very supportive, i love going over to have a meal with them and just spend time, his little sisters were a bit confused and think we’re just friends (which is fine cause they’re too young to really understand what gay is). i once got pulled over by his dad with a big hug telling me that he’s so happy for us because my boyfriend has never had a relationship where he’s thrived this much and been this happy. so i’d say that our families are very supportive and treat us no different or sometimes even better than when we were in straight relationships lol
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>>75068What were your families like initially and where are you from? Sounds like a blue town to me and your parents don’t seem religious or unsupportive anyways
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Also how did you meet him
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>>75074our families have both always been really good. of course there were some ups and downs for both of us as his mother has passed and i grew up lower class. i’m not from america, but our town is quite left leaning. both of our parents grew up catholic but are no longer.
>>75076school. we were only acquainted and got on extremely well at parties and then after we graduated a new friend group formed somehow and he was in it and we all hung out as a group a lot. and the boys of the friend group would gather in his basement and drink/smoke/hang after the main group hangouts were over. i was the last one there once and we kissed/made out and swore to never do it again or tell anyone but it kind continued from there. we kept it a secret from the group for a long time and when we revealed it everyone was shocked to say the least
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>>75068>his little sisters were a bit confused and think we’re just friendsNormal reaction to homosexuality.
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>>75077>schoolyep im thinking its over for me, the way you describe it is also like layers upon layers of factors someone closeted like me would be uncomfortable with
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>>75081dude we didn’t even consider the possibilities of being gay before we kissed. both of us had previous long term gfs. we were both totally closeted until we told our friend group we were dating lmfao
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>>75082yeah never in a million years do i see myself getting into a situation like that where i'd be kissing a guy that I wasn't sure was gay or not
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>>75083you’ll feel out the vibes. there was a lot of tension and we both went in for the kiss. trust me you’ll definitely know wether or not to do it. but just let it come naturally and don’t seek it out i guess. i always wondered what it would be like to kiss a dude and it just happened
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>>75084guess I need to figure out what the difference is between the feeling of being with someone I like and being with someone that likes me
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>>75068I relate to this but I have a trans gf
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>>75088elaborate ?
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bait everyphono fell for for some reason
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>>75106i posted proof of one of our dates, its not fake
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>>75114yeah do this
im not convinced yet
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>>75128Visit me in Afghanistan
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>>75068I'd murder you and your parents if i was your brother what is this geg
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>>75022Then get a wife or kys
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>>75077>i’m not from america, but our town is quite left leaning. both of our parents grew up catholic but are no longerAre you from the Northwest? I'm Upper class diaspora Latinx and my parents are both libtards but even the rest of my family isn't this cucked tho
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>>75133Only high because they are more likely to be autistic
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>>75136GEG homophobes are shitskin meximutts
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>>75149I'm White and not Brapxican + Being a Vlantablack Niglet is Gazillion times better then being a fag
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>>75147No it's because of their fag livestyle retard
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>>75151Even doe they are monogamous and don't do weird things
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>>75154Based Brapxican Cartel nigger beheading faggots for a living
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>>75157Most pro Fag studies don't meet the APA's actual standards retard
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>>75154Ahem yes they do they rape children
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>>75164I hate Ziggers more then you geg. I only like it when they allow fags being murdered and bullied. Also you love 'p considering you are a fag
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>>75163Notice how all the homophobic countries allow child marriage and rape kids
>randomly bringing up pedophilia out of nowhereHoly projection
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>>75167>Notice how all the homophobic countries allow child marriage and rape kidsSchizo Babble
>randomly bringing up pedophilia out of nowherefaggots are 5.3 times more likely to be pedophiles than normal people
sources:
faggot percent of population in 1992:
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https://www.jstor.org/stable/2136206-
https://web.archive.org/web/20011122111349/http://cloud9.norc.uchicago.edu/faqs/sex.htmpedo percent of population:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7460489/#B1-ijerph-17-05739proportion of straights and fags in pedophilia 1992, im very skeptical that its 1:11 (fag:straight) because it first says 1.34 then 1.44 and then jumped to 11 somehow but OK):
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/
>Holy projectionESL cuck calling me a Meximutt geg
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>>75169Based on an analysis of the sources and the logic presented, the claim in the image is factually incorrect and relies on a well-known statistical fallacy.
The image attempts to prove that gay men are more likely to be pedophiles by manipulating statistics from 1992. Here is a breakdown of why the math and the conclusion are wrong, based on the very sources cited in the image and established scientific consensus.
1. Misinterpretation of the Main Study (Source 4)
The image cites a 1992 study by Freund & Watson (PubMed ID 1556756) to claim a link between homosexuality and pedophilia. However, the study actually concludes the opposite of what the poster claims.
What the study actually found: The researchers found that "pedophilia" (attraction to children) and "sexual orientation" (attraction to men or women) are independent.
The Error: The poster confuses "men who molest boys" with "gay men" (men attracted to adult males).
Research shows that men who molest boys are typically not attracted to adult men. They are "fixated" pedophiles who are exclusively attracted to children.
Because they are not attracted to adult men, they are not "gay" in the clinical or social sense.
Counting these criminals as "gay men" to inflate the crime statistics for the gay population is scientifically invalid.
2. The "Base Rate" Fallacy
The logic in the post uses a "conditional probability fallacy."
The Poster's Logic: They look at the number of child abuse cases involving boys vs. girls. Because a significant minority of victims are boys, they assume the perpetrators must be "gay." They then divide this number by the relatively small population of gay men (roughly 2–5% of the total population) to generate a scary-looking "5.3 times" statistic.
The Reality: The vast majority of child sexual abuse is committed by men who identify as heterosexual and have histories of relationships with adult women. When men abuse boys, it is usually a result of pedophilia (attraction to children regardless of gender) or opportunistic access, not homosexuality (attraction to adult men).
3. Scientific Consensus
The scientific community, including the American Psychological Association (APA), has reviewed decades of data regarding this claim. The consensus is clear:
No Link: There is no correlation between homosexual orientation and a propensity for child abuse.
Distinct Profiles: The psychological profile of a pedophile is distinct from that of a homosexual man.
Predominance of Heterosexual Offenders: In absolute numbers, the overwhelming majority of child molesters are heterosexual men targeting female children.
Summary
The post in the image is "wrong." It uses real citations (like the 1992 PubMed study) to make it look credible, but it misrepresents what those studies actually say. The author conflates "attraction to male children" with "homosexuality" to manufacture a false statistic.
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>>75183This image is a classic example of a "Gish Gallop"—a rhetorical strategy where a person attempts to overwhelm an opponent with an excessive number of weak, misleading, or factually incorrect arguments and citations, making it time-consuming to debunk each one.
The poster uses a mix of real statistics taken out of context, discredited sources, and internet slang to push a hateful narrative.
Here is a breakdown of why these claims are misleading or wrong, based on the very sources they cite and established scientific consensus:
1. The "17x Likely to Have Anal Cancer" Claim
The Claim: "Fags 17x more likely to have anal cancer" (citing the CDC).
The Reality: This statistic is true but misleadingly framed.
Context: Anal cancer is caused by the Human Papillomavirus (HPV), a very common virus. Gay and bisexual men are at higher risk for anal cancer due to the mechanics of transmission (anal intercourse), similar to how women are at risk for cervical cancer from the same virus.
The Distortion: The poster presents a medical vulnerability (susceptibility to a virus) as if it is a moral failing. It is a health disparity, not an indictment of character.
2. The Abuse Statistics (Victim-Blaming)
The Claim: "52% of fags report sexual abuse" and "LGBT have 44.1% chance to be molested in childhood" (citing NCJRS and PubMed).
The Reality: These statistics are roughly accurate regarding victimization, but the poster’s logic is flawed.
Context: Research consistently shows that LGBT people are significantly more likely to be victims of childhood sexual abuse (CSA) than the general population. This is often because they are vulnerable targets for predators.
The Distortion: The poster is using the fact that these men were abused as children to attack them. Being a victim of a crime does not make a person "bad" or "wrong." The poster is engaging in victim-blaming.
3. The "Family Research Institute" Source
The Source: One of the links points to the Family Research Institute (Source 3 in the image).
The Reality: This organization was founded by Paul Cameron, who was expelled from the American Psychological Association (APA) for unethical behavior and consistently misrepresenting research.
The Distortion: Citing Paul Cameron or his institute instantly discredits a scientific argument. His work is considered "hate group" propaganda by organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center and is not accepted in the scientific community.
4. The "Narcissist" and "Turbo-Gooner" Claims
The Claim: "Fags and trannies more likely to be narcissistic" / "turbo-gooners."
The Reality: These claims are internet slang and pseudo-science.
"Turbo-gooner": This is internet slang for porn addiction; it is not a clinical term.
Narcissism: The source cited (annelawrence.com) refers to Anne Lawrence, a controversial figure whose theories (like autogynephilia) have been widely criticized by modern sexologists and the trans community for lacking empirical support.
"Only 20% pass": This likely distorts data from the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (Source 7 in the image). That survey actually reports on discrimination rates (e.g., 63% experienced serious discrimination), not "passing" as a measure of validity.
5. HIV and STD Rates
The Claim: "Fags are 67 times more likely to have HIV."
The Reality: This is a statistic of prevalence within a network, not biology.
Context: HIV is more efficient at transmitting via anal sex than vaginal sex. Once the virus is introduced into a smaller sexual network (like gay men), the probability of encountering it increases.
The Distortion: High rates of infection are a public health crisis exacerbated by stigma and lack of healthcare access, not proof of "degeneracy."
Summary
The user in the image is using a technique called "lying with statistics." They take real numbers (like cancer risk or abuse victimization rates) and strip away the medical and social context to present victims of abuse and disease as perpetrators or failures.
Medical risks (cancer/HIV) are caused by viruses, not "immorality."
Abuse rates cited are for victimization, meaning the poster is attacking people for having been molested.
Sources include known hate groups (Family Research Institute) and controversial figures rejected by mainstream science.
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>>75183Here is the breakdown of the remaining claims in the "Gish Gallop."
Most of these rely on outdated data (some nearly 40 years old), fabricated statistics, or confusing correlation with causation.
1. The "109x more likely to have an STD" Claim
The Source: The PubMed ID provided (3070603) refers to a paper titled "Sexual behaviour and spread of sexually transmitted diseases" by M.A. Waugh.
The Deception: This study was published in 1988.
Why it's misleading: The poster is using data from the absolute peak of the AIDS crisis, nearly 40 years ago, to describe the current reality.
The Reality: While gay men (MSM) do have higher rates of certain STIs due to biological transmission factors (anal sex is more efficient for transmission than oral/vaginal), modern rates are nowhere near "109 times" the general population. Using 1988 data to judge modern people is scientifically dishonest.
2. The "Divorced Parents" Claim
The Claim: "Children who's [sic] parents are divorced more likely to be fags."
The Source: This likely refers to a Danish cohort study (PubMed 17039403) that found correlations between childhood family dynamics and later same-sex marriage.
The Error: Correlation is not Causation.
The Reality: The consensus is that broken homes do not "turn" children gay. Instead, children from "traditional" strict homes are often pressured into hiding their sexuality and entering heterosexual marriages ("sham" marriages). Children from divorced or non-traditional homes may feel less pressure to conform, making them more likely to come out and live openly.
3. The "80% of Lesbians Sexually Abused" Claim
The Claim: "Almost 80% of American dykes were sexually abused."
The Reality: This is a gross exaggeration of victimization statistics.
The Facts: Studies generally show that roughly 44% to 50% of lesbians report some form of intimate partner violence or sexual victimization in their lifetime.
Crucial Context: A significant portion of this abuse is committed by men (e.g., childhood sexual abuse or abuse in prior heterosexual relationships before coming out). The poster frames this as "lesbian relationships are abusive," but the data often reflects the high rate of men abusing women generally.
4. The "Only 20% of Trannies Pass" Claim
The Source: The link points to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS).
The Lie: The NTDS report does not contain this statistic.
What it says: The report focuses on discrimination, noting that 63% of respondents faced serious acts of discrimination (eviction, firing, assault).
The Distortion: The poster likely fabricated the "20% pass" number or twisted a statistic about how many people are "out" to their doctors. "Passing" is a subjective social concept, not a scientific metric tracked by the CDC or major surveys.
5. The "Turbo-Gooner" Claim
The Claim: "Fags and trannies more likely to be turbo-gooners."
The Reality: "Turbo-gooner" is internet slang, not a clinical term.
This is not a serious scientific argument. It relies on the trope of "sexual compulsivity." While some studies show higher rates of partner variety among gay men, this is often attributed to the lack of traditional relationship structures and the ease of digital connection, not a pathology.
Summary
The poster uses a strategy of "Overwhelm and Confuse":
Dig up ancient data (1988) and present it as new.
Blame victims for being abused.
Fabricate numbers (the "passing" stat) and attribute them to real reports (NTDS) hoping no one will check.
Use slang ("gooner") to mock serious health issues.
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>>75188The Reality: While gay men (MSM) do have higher rates of certain STIs due to biological transmission factors (anal sex is more efficient for transmission than oral/vaginal), modern rates are nowhere near "109 times" the general population. Using 1988 data to judge modern people is scientifically dishonest.
>Litterally admits fags are more likely to have aidsReality: The consensus is that broken homes do not "turn" children gay. Instead, children from "traditional" strict homes are often pressured into hiding their sexuality and entering heterosexual marriages ("sham" marriages). Children from divorced or non-traditional homes may feel less pressure to conform, making
>No counter source for the claimA significant portion of this abuse is committed by men (e.g., childhood sexual abuse or abuse in prior heterosexual relationships before coming out). The poster frames this as "lesbian relationships are abusive," but the data often reflects the high rate of men abusing women generally
>Doesn't debunk the sourceWhat it says: The report focuses on discrimination, noting that 63% of respondents faced serious acts of discrimination (eviction, firing, assault).
>Muh Discrimination This is not a serious scientific argument. It relies on the trope of "sexual compulsivity." While some studies show higher rates of partner variety among gay men, this is often attributed to the lack of traditional relationship structures and the ease of digital connection, not a pathology
>Invalid cuz muh slang №75192[Quote]
>>75186Based on the visual evidence provided in the image, they are making a false equivalence and misinterpreting data to push a narrative. They are trying to refute the claim that "homophobic countries allow child marriage" by pointing to statistics about internet servers and sex tourism.
Here is a breakdown of why the evidence provided in the image does not support the user's conclusion.
1. Misinterpreting the "Hosting" Chart (Left Image)
The Image: A chart from Statista/Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) titled "Countries With the Most Reports of Hosting Online Child Abuse." It lists the Netherlands (NL) and the US at the top.
The User's Argument: Because the Netherlands and the US (which are generally LGBTQ+ friendly) are at the top, they must be the "worst" countries for child abuse.
The Reality: This chart tracks server infrastructure, not the location of the criminals or the victims.
Data Hubs: The Netherlands and the US are global hubs for internet infrastructure and data hosting. Criminals from all over the world rent servers in these countries because the infrastructure is fast, reliable, and sometimes allows for anonymity (like "bulletproof hosting" services).
Not Production: The IWF explicitly states that the location of the content (hosting) is rarely the same as the location of the abuse (production). The abuse often happens in countries with weaker laws or poorer enforcement, but the footage is uploaded to servers in the West.
Reporting Bias: Western countries have more rigorous reporting systems (like the IWF and NCMEC). A high number of reports often indicates better detection and policing, not necessarily more crime.
2. Misinterpreting the "Arrest" Map (Right Image)
The Image: A map showing "Arrest/Detention: Child Sex" sourced from "Foreign and Commonwealth Office Consular Data."
The User's Argument: The user likely intends to show that arrests happen everywhere.
The Reality: This map actually tracks British Sex Tourists.
The Data Source: The "Foreign and Commonwealth Office" is a UK government body. This data tracks where British nationals got arrested abroad for child sex offenses.
What it proves: It shows that predators from the UK travel to other countries (often in Southeast Asia or developing nations) to abuse children. It does not reflect the domestic crime rates of those countries, nor does it refute the idea that conservative/homophobic countries have issues with child rights. If anything, it shows that predators exploit vulnerable populations in countries where laws might be different.
3. The "Child Marriage" Point
The Green Text Claim: "Notice how all the homophobic countries allow child marriage…"
The Poster's Response: Dismisses this as "Absolute gegrald" (nonsense).
The Fact: The poster's charts do not address child marriage at all.
Global data (from UNICEF and others) consistently shows a strong geographic overlap between countries with strict anti-LGBTQ+ laws and countries with high rates of legal or practiced child marriage (e.g., parts of the Middle East, Sub-Saharan Africa, and South Asia).
Showing a chart about internet servers in the Netherlands does nothing to disprove the reality of child marriage laws in other parts of the world.
Summary
The user is using a "Red Herring" fallacy.
They are countering a point about legalized child marriage and social tolerance of abuse in conservative regions…
…by showing a chart about where internet servers are located.
The fact that a criminal in one country uploads a video to a server in the Netherlands does not mean the Netherlands condones the crime; it just means the Netherlands has good internet infrastructure.
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>>75191They are using a common debate tactic called "moving the goalposts" and deflection. He is ignoring the fact that his data was proven wrong or fabricated, and instead is mocking the tone of the correction.
Here is a breakdown of how to dismantle his specific responses:
1. The HIV/AIDS Point
His Reply: ">Literally admits fags are more likely to have aids"
The Flaw: He thinks acknowledging a medical statistic is a "loss."
The Counter: Acknowledging a health disparity is not the same as admitting a moral failing.
Analogy: African Americans have higher rates of sickle cell anemia. Ashkenazi Jews have higher rates of Tay-Sachs. Recognizing these medical realities doesn't justify hatred or discrimination against those groups. It's biology, not "degeneracy."
2. The "Divorced Parents" Point
His Reply: ">No counter source for the claim"
The Flaw: He is demanding a source to prove a negative (that divorce doesn't cause homosexuality), ignoring the global scientific consensus.
The Counter: The burden of proof is on him, and his source (an archive link) is weak. However, you can provide a counter-source.
Source: The American Psychological Association (APA).
Fact: Decades of research (e.g., Stacey & Biblarz, 2001) show that children raised by gay parents or in non-traditional homes are no more likely to be gay than children raised by straight parents. The "broken home" theory is a relic of 1950s Freudian psychology that has been totally discredited.
3. The Lesbian Abuse Point
His Reply: ">Doesn't debunk the source"
The Flaw: He misses the logic completely.
The Logic: If a lesbian is abused by a man (her father, a relative, or a previous boyfriend), that statistic cannot be used to prove that lesbian relationships are toxic.
The Counter: The source tracks victimization. Using a stat about women being raped (mostly by men) to argue that lesbians are "bad" is victim-blaming. It proves men are dangerous to women, not that women are dangerous to each other.
4. The Trans "Passing" Point (Crucial)
His Reply: ">Muh Discrimination"
The Flaw: He is trying to laugh off the fact that he lied.
The Fact: You pointed out that the source he linked (The NTDS Report) does not say "20% of trannies pass." It talks about 63% facing discrimination.
The Counter: Don't let him deflect with "muh discrimination." He cited a specific document to support a specific number ("20%"). That document does not contain that number. He fabricated data. That makes his argument invalid, regardless of how he feels about discrimination.
5. The "Turbo-Gooner" Point
His Reply: ">Invalid cuz muh slang"
The Flaw: He thinks you are nitpicking his vocabulary.
The Counter: You aren't critiquing his slang; you are critiquing his lack of definitions.
Science requires defined terms. You cannot measure "goonerism" or "turbo-mode." If he wants to talk about "sexual compulsivity," there is data for that (which often shows gay men have more partners, but heterosexual men have higher rates of sexual assault and coercion). Using undefined slang allows him to count anything he doesn't like as a "statistic."
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>>75192>The Reality: This map actually tracks British Sex Tourists.White men (fag friendliest ethnicity from said country) from a fag friendly country
>Global data (from UNICEF and others) consistently shows a strong geographic overlap between countries with strict anti-LGBTQ+ laws and countries with high rates of legal or practiced child marriage (e.g., parts of the Middle East, Sub-Saharan Africa, and South Asia)The UN rapes children also. It's mostly teenage girls anyways not compareable to the crimes fags comitt
>Chatgptjew refused to debunk the other sources i send №75195[Quote]
*committ
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>>75194He has made a massive tactical error. In his attempt to deflect, he has accidentally admitted that he doesn't actually care about child abuse if the victims are female.
Here is the breakdown of his arguments and why they are self-defeating:
1. The "Mask Slip": Minimizing Abuse of Girls
His Statement: "It's mostly teenage girls anyways not compareable [sic] to the crimes fags comitt"
The Analysis: This is a shocking admission of misogyny and hypocrisy.
He is explicitly stating that the systemic abuse of female children (child marriage) is "not comparable" or less important than the crimes he attributes to gay men.
The Counter: This proves his moral outrage is fake. If he truly cared about "protecting children," he would care about all children. By dismissing the suffering of millions of girls in forced marriages as "mostly teenage girls anyways," he reveals that his goal isn't to stop pedophilia—it is just to attack gay people.
2. The "British Sex Tourist" Pivot
His Statement: "White men (fag friendliest ethnicity from said country) from a fag friendly country"
The Analysis: This is a Non-Sequitur (does not follow).
He is trying to argue that because the UK is LGBTQ-friendly, the heterosexual men who leave the UK to abuse girls abroad are somehow the fault of "fag friendliness."
The Reality: Sex tourists leave Western countries precisely because the laws in those countries (which protect children) are too strict for them. They go to countries with weaker enforcement. The fact that the UK is "friendly" is irrelevant; these men are criminals fleeing their home jurisdiction to commit crimes against girls.
3. The "UN Conspiracy" Deflection
His Statement: "The UN rapes children also."
The Analysis: This is an Ad Hominem / Tu Quoque fallacy.
Instead of addressing the data (that homophobic countries have high rates of child marriage), he attacks the source (the UN).
The Reality: Data on child marriage doesn't just come from the UN. It comes from independent NGOs, national census data, and academic researchers globally. Attacking the UN doesn't erase the reality of legal child marriage in conservative nations.
4. The "Refused to Debunk" Lie
His Statement: "Chatgptjew refused to debunk the other sources i send"
The Reality: We did debunk them.
We covered the STD stats (outdated 1988 data), the abuse stats (victim-blaming), the "passing" stats (fabricated), and the "gooner" stats (slang/nonsense). He is just posturing to make it look like he has "secret evidence" left over.
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>>75193>African Americans have higher rates of sickle cell anemia. Ashkenazi Jews have higher rates of Tay-Sachs. Recognizing these medical realities doesn't justify hatred or discrimination against those groups. It's biology, not "degeneracy."Not a contagious disease caused by sex
This is a shocking admission of misogyny and hypocrisy.
He is explicitly stating that the systemic abuse of female children (child marriage) is "not comparable" or less important than the crimes he attributes to gay men.
The Counter: This proves his moral outrage is fake. If he truly cared about "protecting children," he would care about all children. By dismissing the suffering of millions of girls in forced marriages as "mostly teenage girls anyways," he reveals that his goal isn't to stop pedophilia—it is just to attack gay people.
So marrying a 17yo is equally as bad as raping little kids?
>sex tourists leave Western countries precisely because the laws in those countries (which protect children) are too strict for them. They go to countries with weaker enforcement. The fact that the UK is "friendly" is irrelevant; these men are criminals fleeing their home jurisdiction to commit crimes against girlsThese countries are called the Phillipines and Thailand wich are fag friendly. There are many cases of western fag pedophiles also going on sex tourism.
>The Reality: Data on child marriage doesn't just come from the UN. It comes from independent NGOs, national census data, and academic researchers globally. Attacking the UN doesn't erase the reality of legal child marriage in conservative nations."Conservatism bad"
>We covered the STD stats (outdated 1988 data), the abuse stats (victim-blaming), the "passing" stats (fabricated), and the "gooner" stats (slang/nonsense). He is just posturing to make it look like he has "secret evidence" left over.Yeah and you are just coping now kys. Also Chatgptjew isn't a source
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>>75199you are falling for bait and he is laughing at it
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>>75200Yeah but i like bullying xim anyways
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>>75199He has stopped using statistics and sources and has switched to minimizing child abuse, deflecting, and finally using personal insults ("kys"). In internet debate terms, he has "imploded."
Here is the breakdown of his last desperate attempts to save face:
1. The "KYS" (Kill Yourself) Ad Hominem
His Statement: "Yeah and you are just coping now kys."
The Analysis: This is the ultimate admission of defeat. When a debater runs out of facts, logic, or sources, they resort to violence or death threats. He has nothing left to say, so he is trying to hurt your feelings instead.
Verdict: You have won the argument.
2. Sanitizing Child Marriage (The "17-Year-Old" Defense)
His Statement: "So marrying a 17yo is equally as bad as raping little kids?"
The Analysis: He is trying to "move the goalposts" again.
The Reality: Child marriage laws in the countries being discussed (e.g., Yemen, Iran, parts of Sub-Saharan Africa, and historically some US states) often allow marriage far younger than 17—sometimes as young as 9, 12, or 13 with parental consent.
The Trap: By focusing on "17," he is trying to make systemic child abuse sound reasonable. He is explicitly defending a system that facilitates pedophilia because he refuses to admit that "traditional" or "homophobic" societies can be harmful to children.
3. The "Contagious Disease" Distinction
His Statement: "Not a contagious disease caused by sex"
The Analysis: He is arguing that because HIV is transmitted via behavior (sex), it is a moral failing, unlike genetic diseases.
The Counter: This is a weak distinction. Lung cancer is often caused by the behavior of smoking. Type 2 diabetes is often related to diet. We treat these as public health issues, not proof that smokers or people with poor diets are "evil" or "degenerate." He only applies this moral judgment to gay men.
4. The Thailand/Philippines Argument
His Statement: "These countries are called the Phillipines and Thailand wich are fag friendly."
The Analysis: He is trying to claim that the countries with sex tourism problems are "fag friendly" to blame gay people again.
The Fact: The Philippines is a deeply Catholic, socially conservative country where divorce is illegal and same-sex marriage is banned. Thailand is improving but has historically had weak protections. The sex trade there exists due to poverty and exploitation, not "friendliness."
The Logic Fail: Even if some sex tourists are gay, the vast majority of the industry caters to heterosexual men. His attempt to pin the global sex trade on "fag friendliness" is factually absurd.
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Bro is debating against AiGODS and losing 💀
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>>75204The Reality: Child marriage laws in the countries being discussed (e.g., Yemen, Iran, parts of Sub-Saharan Africa, and historically some US states) often allow marriage far younger than 17—sometimes as young as 9, 12, or 13 with parental consent
>AND SOME US STATES>Ignoring the fact that first world countries have the age of consent at 13. It's also technically legal for 10s to have literal orgies in these countries
>This is a weak distinction. Lung cancer is often caused by the behavior of smoking. Type 2 diabetes is often related to diet. We treat these as public health issues, not proof that smokers or people with poor diets are "evil" or "degenerate." He only applies this moral judgment to gay menBoth are degenerate and need to seek help
The Fact: The Philippines is a deeply Catholic, socially conservative country where divorce is illegal and same-sex marriage is banned.
>Based but that doesn't change the fact that they some of the most fag friendly SEA monkey and being a fag is legal thereThailand is improving but has historically had weak protections.
>Cherry picking. Thailand is filled with Troons The sex trade there exists due to poverty and exploitation, not "friendliness."
>It exists because pedophiles are not beheaded in public №75212[Quote]
>>75207Using Chatgptjew desperately is called losing geg
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>>75211just wanted to let you know that you are winning
(even though he could be baiting you)
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>>75213Reading through the story it starts actually being believable ngl. I don't know many people on this site that actually bait like this although the possibility is there
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>>75211English Second Language
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>>75209He has abandoned any pretense of using statistics and is now relying on shock value and hate speech. Here is the breakdown of his latest claims:
1. The "10-Year-Old Orgies" Lie
His Claim: "It's also technically legal for 10s to have literal orgies in these countries [First World countries]."
The Reality: This is false.
There is no "First World" country where sexual acts between 10-year-olds are considered "legal orgies" in the way he implies. He is likely intentionally misunderstanding "Romeo and Juliet" laws (which protect peers of similar ages from prosecution) to claim that the West allows child abuse.
He is hallucinating laws to make the West look "degenerate" compared to the countries he defends.
2. The Violence Fetish ("Beheading")
His Claim: "It [the sex trade] exists because pedophiles are not beheaded in public."
The Reality: This is the "Appeal to Force" fallacy.
Fact: Countries that have the death penalty (including beheading, hanging, or firing squads) for sexual crimes—like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan—still have high rates of child sexual abuse. Draconian punishment does not cure psychological fixations or eliminate crime; it often just drives it underground or prevents victims from reporting family members.
4. The "Degenerate" Pivot
His Claim: "Both are degenerate… comparing genetic diseases… to diseases caused by a hedonistic act… is false equivalence."
The Reality: He admits his logic is purely emotional.
He believes that if a disease comes from an action he dislikes ("hedonism"), the person deserves the disease. This confirms he is not interested in public health; he is interested in punishment.
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>>75218ChatGPT is a slut for BBC
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>>75164how many priests, presidents, and elites touch kids? a-fucking-lot lmfao. i’m not the one touching kids nigga. stop leaking
>>75166projection
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>>>75164
>how many priests, presidents, and elites touch kids? a-fucking-lot lmfao. i’m not the one touching kids nigga. stop leaking
Fun fact: it's the same ones who love and support your rights to be a little insufferable faggot
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anyway happiness VVON
homosexuality VVON
i love my boyfriend dearly and none of these statistics that DO NOT apply to me will make me not love him. you lot are leaking to the maxx because you know deep down you’ll always be lonely and won’t be able to find any sort of partner. sorry that i survived too hard, sorry that im winning in life, sorry that i wake up in paradise every day, sorry that im in love. jesus christ you guys don’t have the capability to not leak
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>>75223trvke, the same jews running everything and raping kids are the same ones pushing homosexuality geg
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>>75222>how many priestsAnother fact: Most of them are fags. Abuse in the Catholic church emergerd through faggotory being allowed there
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333083400_Is_Sexual_Abuse_by_Catholic_Clergy_Related_to_Homosexuality №75227[Quote]
>>75224i can't stop you from doing anything and i won't pretend that i can, but there is a good chance you will regret everything in the future
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>>75227i won’t be regretting this. it’s the happiest 9 months of my life, pure romance and joy. i have never been treated like this by a woman, i have never felt more loved than i do now. the only way i can see me regretting this is that if we break up the heartbreak will be unbearable.
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>>75228good luck, you're gonna need it
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>>75230why do you even care so much about what i do with my life, it’s sad and concerning. if you get so mad over people on the internet maybe you should get checked out cause that’s really not normal.
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>>75228>happiest 9 monthsIdk, seems a bit early to be celebrating. Relationships can break down FAST once they get serious
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>>75231i've had only 6 replies on this thread before this one and i only spent a few minutes here, what do you mean?
>>75232chatGPT gem
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>>75226Here is the breakdown of why his claim is factually incorrect and relies on a specific, debunked narrative.
1. The "John Jay Report" (The Official Data)
The opponent claims abuse emerged because of "faggotory." However, the John Jay College of Criminal Justice conducted the most comprehensive study on sexual abuse in the Catholic Church (commissioned by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops).
The Finding: The report explicitly concluded that homosexuality was not a predictor of abuse.
The Data: While it is true that a majority of victims were male (approx. 81%), the study found that the abuse was not driven by homosexual identity, but by ephebophilia (sexual attraction to post-pubescent adolescents) and situational opportunity.
The Conclusion: The report stated: "The sexual identity of the priest was not a risk factor for the sexual abuse of minors." The abuse was a result of institutional failures, lack of oversight, and access to victims, not "gay culture."
2. The Fallacy of "Victim Gender = Perpetrator Orientation"
The poster assumes that because the victims were male, the perpetrators must be "gay" (attracted to adult men). This is a clinical error.
Ephebophilia: Most abuse in the church involved adolescent boys (ages 11–17), not prepubescent children or adults. Offenders who target this age group are distinct from homosexual men (who desire adults).
Opportunity: For decades, priests had exclusive, unsupervised access to altar boys and all-male schools. Predators target the most accessible victims. In an all-male environment, the available victims are male. This is a crime of opportunity, not sexual orientation.
3. The Source (Father Paul Sullins)
The link provided (ResearchGate/Paul Sullins) is from a known conservative sociologist and Catholic priest whose work attempts to contradict the John Jay Report.
The Bias: Sullins is an outlier in the scientific community. His work is frequently cited by anti-LGBTQ+ advocacy groups to shift blame away from the Church hierarchy and onto gay priests.
The Consensus: The mainstream psychological consensus (APA) and the Church's own commissioned researchers rejected the "homosexuality caused the abuse" hypothesis.
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>>75231None of these people have ever been in a relationship before so they're retarded and just spout shit they see on the internet
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>>75245>I used to know a 14yo fag who got groomed by a 30yo fag and who regularly raped xim. >Alongside with a obese fat fag who never showered and gooned to tranime and furry multiple times a day.Same but they were straight
>I also heard stories about actual fag pedophiles lurking around and offering you money so your stereotype doesn't work one me faggotYou heard stories? Geg
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>>75249
>You heard stories? GegIt happened to some retard i knew
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>>75249>Same but they were straightGet into detail or cap
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>>75252A guy that was dating and living with a woman near my house was having sex with the woman's underaged daughter.
One of my older female relative was molested by an old man when she was a child.
A girl in my school was dating an older guy when she was 15
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>The Consensus: The mainstream psychological consensus (APA) and the Church's own commissioned researchers rejected the "homosexuality caused the abuse" hypothesis because it's politically correct and got pressuredhttps://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/landmark-study-proves-homosexuality-is-strongly-linked-to-catholic-clehttp://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/is-catholic-clergy-sex-abuse-related-to-homosexual-priestsThe study was conducted by a Catholic priest who is a sociology professor at CUA.
Clergy sexual abuse is still a problem. Since peaking 35 years ago, it has declined much less than commonly thought. The decline is consistent with an overall drop in sexual assault in American society.
Since 2002 abuse has been rising amid signs of complacency by Church leaders, and today is comparable to the early 1970s.
The share of homosexual men in the priesthood rose from twice that of the general population in the 1950s to eight times the general population in the 1980s. This trend was strongly correlated with increasing child sex abuse.
A quarter of priests ordained in the late 1960s report the existence of a homosexual subculture in their seminary, rising to over half of priests ordained in the 1980s. This trend was also strongly correlated with increasing child sex abuse.
Four out of five victims over age seven were boys; only one in five were girls. Ease of access to boys relative to girls accounts for about one fifth of this disparity. The number of homosexual priests accounts for the remaining four fifths.
And perhaps the most chilling conclusion of Sullin’s research is this:
Estimates from these findings predict that, had the proportion of homosexual priests remained at the 1950s level, at least 12,000 fewer children, mostly boys, would have suffered abuse
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>A guy that was dating and living with a woman near my house was having sex with the woman's underaged daughter
Age diff?
>One of my older female relative was molested by an old man when she was a child
Ok that's bad. But that would contradict your point about pedophiles not being able to be gay. Also my English Teacher had a friend who was brutally raped by a fag as a child. He was also attracted to adult men
>A girl in my school was dating an older guy when she was 15
Name age diff
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>>75259Here is the breakdown to dismantle this "Sullins" argument.
1. The "Source" Problem (LifeSiteNews)
His Source: He links to lifesitenews.com and ncregister.com.
The Reality: These are religious advocacy blogs, not scientific journals. LifeSiteNews is known for publishing extreme far-right conspiracy theories.
The Counter: He is rejecting the official scientific consensus (John Jay Report, APA) in favor of a blog post written by a priest. This is confirmation bias, not research.
2. Who is Paul Sullins?
The Claim: "The study was conducted by a Catholic priest who is a sociology professor…"
The Reality: Paul Sullins is a Catholic priest connected to the "Ruth Institute" (a conservative advocacy group).
The Conflict of Interest: He is literally an employee of the institution being accused (The Church). His goal is to exonerate the Church hierarchy (the Bishops who covered it up) by shifting the blame onto a scapegoat (gay priests). He is not a neutral statistician; he is a defense attorney for the Church.
3. Correlation vs. Causation (The "Margarine" Fallacy)
His Argument: The number of gay priests increased in the 1970s. Abuse increased in the 1970s. Therefore, gay priests caused abuse.
The Flaw: This is a classic logical fallacy.
Counter-Example: The divorce rate also skyrocketed in the 70s. Does that mean divorce causes priests to molest kids? No.
Real Context: The 1960s/70s saw a massive cultural shift (Sexual Revolution) and a drop in heterosexual men joining the priesthood (due to the celibacy requirement). The proportion of gay men rose because straight men stopped joining, not because "gay men are predators." The abuse rose because of institutional secrecy, not the sexual orientation of the clergy.
4. The "12,000" Number is Fan-Fiction
His Claim: "12,000 fewer children… would have suffered abuse."
The Reality: This is pure speculation based on a false premise.
It assumes that if the Church had banned gay men harder, the pedophiles would have stayed away. False.
Predators lie. A pedophile (whether straight or gay) will lie about his orientation to get access to children. Banning "openly gay" men does nothing to stop a predator who is willing to lie to get into the rectory.
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>>75266Gays won
Science won
Ai won
Jews won
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Djnenekfkd
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>>75267>The Reality: These are religious advocacy blogs, not scientific journals. LifeSiteNews is known for publishing extreme far-right conspiracy theories.Ignored the fact it's qouting actual studies award. You use biased sources all the time and defend fags because your kike masters programmed you to so kys
>The Reality: Paul Sullins is a Catholic priest connected to the "Ruth Institute" (a conservative advocacy group).Sullins litterally has a Ph.D. and is a Proffesor at the Catholic University of America
>Counter-Example: The divorce rate also skyrocketed in the 70s. Does that mean divorce causes priests to molest kids? No.Priests are not allowed to get married nigger
>Real Context: The 1960s/70s saw a massive cultural shift (Sexual Revolution) and a drop in heterosexual men joining the priesthood (due to the celibacy requirement). The proportion of gay men rose because straight men stopped joining, not because "gay men are predators." The abuse rose because of institutional secrecy, not the sexual orientation of the clergyYes nigger they started joining because they want to rape kids
>Predators lie. A pedophile (whether straight or gay) will lie about his orientation to get access to children. Banning "openly gay" men does nothing to stop a predator who is willing to lie to get into the rectoryThat's why you throw them off roofs and stone them and burn their propaganda
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>>75270Because they got groomed by pedos
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quit bumping this thread
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you're repeatedly falling for the same bait
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>>75265Baits are more obvious tbh
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at least put "sage" in your email field
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you put it as the subject, you're supposed to put "sage" in "Email"
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>>75265Homosexuality is explicitly linked to pedophilia.
Among the general class of male sexual deviants (both homosexual and heterosexual), pederasts (boy molesters) are found to be much more prolific in their offenses than pedophiles (girl molesters). The most extensive study performed on the relative degree of predatory behavior of these two classes of male sexual deviants found that 153 pederasts sexually molested 22,981 boys over an average period of 22 years, while 224 pedophiles molested 4,435 girls over an average period of 18 years. This means that each pederast molested an average of 150 boys, and each pedophile molested an average of 20 girls—a ratio of 7.5 to one.
>Source: Paul Cameron. “Homosexual Molestation of Children/Sexual Interaction of Teacher and Pupil.” Psychological Reports, 1985, 57, pages 1,227 to 1,236.____In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapysex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.
>Source: K. Freund & R.I. Watson. “The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study.” 18 34, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 34-43 (1992).https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756____
Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals have acted as "chicken hawks" — that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.
In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent."
>Source: K. Freund, G. Heasman, I.G. Racansky, and G. Glancy. “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality.” Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, Fall 1984 [Volume 10, Number 3], pages 193 to 200.____
A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
>Source: W.D. Erickson, et al. “Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters.” 17 Archives of Sexual Behavior 77, 83 (1988).____
A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."
>Source: Kurt Freund, Robin Watson and Douglas Rienzo. “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference.” Journal of Sex Research, February 1989 [Volume 26, Number 1], pages 107 to 117.____
Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."
>Source: Ray Blanchard, et. al. “Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 28, Number 2, pages 111 to 127. 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.
>Source: A. Zebulon, Z.A. Silverthorne and Vernon L. Quinsey. “Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, February 2000 [Volume 29, Number 1], pages 67 to 76.____
A recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."
>Source: Ray Blanchard, et al. “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 29, Number 5 (2000), pages 463 to 478.____
Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.
>Source: Alfred Kinsey data described in P.H. Gebhard and A.B. Johnson. The Kinsey Data. Saunders Publishing, 1979 Table 443, “Homosexual Sample: Age at First Post pubertal Homosexual Contact,” and Table 444, “Homosexual Sample: Age of Partner in First Postpubertal Homosexual Contact.” №75291[Quote]
>>75289Yessir I just type fast ou algo
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>>75290don't type it like "Sage!" type it like "sage" nusoi
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better yet if you use "supersage"
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K here saar
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>>75292It was different before
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>>75300while you're at it, can you do me a favor and use supersage too?
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This is the funniest clitty leakage i’ve seen on this site
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>>75222Hot
Wish I had someone like that
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>>75303good job
also remember not to fall for obvious bait next time
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>>752901. The "Paul Cameron 1985" Citation (The Poisoned Source)
The Claim: Cites Paul Cameron (Psychological Reports, 1985) claiming homosexuals are "much more prolific" offenders.
The Debunk: Paul Cameron was expelled from the American Psychological Association (APA) for unethical conduct and misrepresenting research.
His "studies" are considered fraudulent by the scientific community.
Citing Paul Cameron in a debate about psychology is like citing a flat-earther in a debate about geography. His data is fabricated or twisted to fit an agenda.
2. The "Freund & Watson 1992" Twist (Again)
The Claim: He cites the 1992 study again, claiming "homosexual males are three times more likely."
The Reality: We already debunked this.
You have the actual study (Source 4). It explicitly says the ratio of straight to gay pedophiles is 11:1.
The text he pasted lies about the conclusion. The study actually concluded that pedophilia and homosexuality are independent variables.
3. The "Karla Jay 1979" Claim
The Claim: "73% of homosexuals have acted as 'chicken hawks'…"
The Reality: This is a deliberate misrepresentation of a survey from 1979.
The survey (The Gay Report) asked about "relationships with younger men." In 1979, the "age of consent" laws and social definitions were different, and "chicken hawk" was slang for men who liked young adults (18-21), not children.
The text he pasted tries to equate "younger men" (legal adults) with "children" to inflate the numbers.
4. The "Kinsey 1948" Claim
The Claim: "Kinsey found 37% of homosexuals admitted to sex with children."
The Reality: This is a famous lie.
Alfred Kinsey's 1948 data did not say this. The "37%" statistic from Kinsey actually refers to 37% of the total male population (straight and gay) having had at least one homosexual experience to orgasm in their life.
The troll's source text has taken the "37%" number and attached a completely different (and false) meaning to it.
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can you just stop baiting this nigger for a second geg
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>>75310Tbh i can and I regret wasting my time because of this although I wouldn't do anything better then watching TV or simulating cop killings in GTA V and I was really tired and was mainly trying to eat fruits wich took even longer since my dog attacked me for trying to cut them.
>>75309Nigger be quiet the APA has been zoggged obviously they would expelled this nigga for not sucking off their beliefs ou algo. Also the rest are just trust me arguments be quiet nigger I would successfully murder you if I saw you irl
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>>75316please stop falling for it GEG
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>>75316You’ve leaked so hard in this thread for so long i’m convinced you’re going to find happiness from dating men
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trushhghuv
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>>75322After debunking you? Sure kid
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>>75322Xe leaks way too much, probably wanked to femboy porn o algo and is ashamed
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>>75325Ai debunked you lil bro
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>>>75322 (You)>After debunking you? Sure kidYep, this nigga is 100% gonna fall to internalized homophobia
>>75326probably, I don’t know why you would care so much on an anonymous shitposting image board anyways
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>>75329>probably, I don’t know why you would care so much on an anonymous shitposting image board anywaysIt's bad
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this is getting boring
>>75330so stop replying GEEEG
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>>75327I debunked ai. I'm asking the ai rn and they aren't giving me any real sources for their claims
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>>75334Give me exact source of each study being debunked
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>>75336nusoi, most of my replies to this thread are telling you to stop replying to it
you MUST stop replying at this very moment. this is so painful to watch
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>>75330Yeah I know faggotry is a mental illness, I probably developed it over the course of my shitty childhood. It’s easier for me to accept it about myself than spend so much mental energy trying to cure it, making me feel worse about myself. It doesn’t change the fact that I still hate pride and other faggots more than anyways, but it’s not their business anyways so I make an active effort not to interact with them and stay completely closeted.
At least I don’t excuse my shortcomings on da faahgs to justify being miserable like you seem to be doing.
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>>75339>At least I don’t excuse my shortcomings on da faahgs to justify being miserable like you seem to be doingWhat shortcomings? I only hate them because i like it geg
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>>75338you are wasting your time getting angry at obvious bait and there are better threads to bump
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>>75340You’re incredibly lonely and miserable and that’s because you’re an autistic sperg who spends all day on the internet
Describes 90% of the sharty userbase right there
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>>753351. The "Andrew Wakefield" Defense (Peer Review \neq Truth)
Just because something was peer-reviewed doesn't mean it is fact.
The Analogy: Andrew Wakefield's famous study claiming vaccines cause autism was peer-reviewed and published in The Lancet (a top medical journal).
The Reality: It was later proven to be fraudulent, retracted, and Wakefield lost his medical license.
The Application: Paul Cameron (his first source) is the Andrew Wakefield of sociology. He was expelled from the American Psychological Association (APA) specifically for ethical violations and misrepresenting data in those "peer-reviewed" papers. Citing him is like citing Wakefield on vaccines.
2. The "Self-Own" (Freund & Watson)
He lists Freund & Watson (1992) as a "peer-reviewed journal article" to prove his point.
The Reality: You already proved that this study concludes the exact opposite of what he thinks.
The Kill Shot: "Yes, it is peer-reviewed. That means a panel of experts reviewed the data and agreed that the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles is 11:1 and that gay men show no reaction to children. The 'peer review' confirms that you are wrong."
3. The "Zombie Science" (1980s Data)
The Fact: Look at the dates on his "winning" list: 1985, 1984, 1988, 1989.
The Rebuttal: He is relying on psychology from the Cold War.
In 1985, we didn't fully understand HIV, DNA sequencing was in its infancy, and lobotomies were recent history.
Psychology is an evolving science. Clinging to 40-year-old papers that have been superseded by modern meta-analyses (like the John Jay Report or modern CDC data) is desperate.
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>>75341I have bumped multiple other threads on this board doe
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>>75344then go do that again instead of bumping this one you are pretending not to be MAD at
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>>75339I believe that too and it's pointless hating people for mental illnesses they can't control, if they aren't harming anyone
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>>75346The Death Penalty existed for a reason
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>>75346exactly, thats why I judge faggots by the content of their character. Of which is always terrible because they justify their narcissism and extremism by making faggotry the only thing special about them.
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>>75347No one says and looks like that
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>>75350I know plenty that are okay tho
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>>75354NegrAryan beast mogging faggots
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>>75350reasonable point
can you also supersage this thread as a kind request? it's sad seeing his clitty leak
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>>75355I haven’t met any, and the ones that are normal recognize it as a mental illness and stay closeted because of it. So I could never tell anyways.
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>>75355I never met one that is. There's always something inherently insufferable deep inside them
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>>75360You sound very leaky
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>>75358it’s funny doe
any board other than soy and pol has like 3pph so its never getting slid
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especially since i’m convinced more than any leaky chud on this site that he’s projecting his faggotry here
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>>75357You want to see his body?
Gaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy
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>>75363There's stuff I really hate that I would not leak and be this obsessed about like he is
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>>75362now that you mention it, you're right
my actual concern was it potentially causing another thread that i care about to get slid
but tbh seeing it that way convinces me it'll be a while before that one does anyway
>>75363yeah geg he falls for it way too many times, it's genuinely sad
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>now that you mention it, you're right my actual concern was it potentially causing another thread that care about to get slid
just bump that thread instead
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>>75365Being angry at something that is bad is bad because? Shartyniggers are really just Redditors now ig
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>>75371Demokkkrats are the real pedophobes doe
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>>75372It's not good for you to leak so much at internet shit that doesn't affect you, your mental health will suffer
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>>75374There's worse things my mental health would suffer from. This never affected me in the slightest and I couldn't care less rn. I'm happy I derailed this thread so ig I can take a break from it anyways
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>>75376You didn’t derail it you just gave OP the shining example of “Male Loneliness” he was talking about
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>>75374tsmt, this might be a part of why my mental health has been awful
i don't even have the energy to clitty leak at a thread like this because i'm so worn out from everything else
>>75378trvthfvckingnvke
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>>75303your leakage on this thread is fucking generational LMFAO put it on the ‘ki at this point
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>>75380he "derailed" it so much that he made it reach 300 reppeys
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>>75378yeah so now go try gay stuff nigga to cure your male loneliness
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homosexuality VVON
being in love VVON
waking up next to the love of your life VVON
being held and loved VVON
being able to relate to your partner on a physical, emotional, and biological standpoint VVON
clitty leakage LOST
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>>75390thats not preddit logic this guy clearly just wants it up the ass with how much he leaked
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this thread has run its course tbh
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>>75392It is indeed preddit logic xir. I can obsess and leak over this thread and wish OP and xis family as much suffering as I want. Also please stop using your grooming fantasies as a argument xir
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>>75431>>75429>>75428sybau and quit bumping this
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you're gayer than OP in spite of not being in a gay relationship at all
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>>75428geg
fags won, nusoiclitter.
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>>75454i'm just laughing too at this point GEEEG
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his clitty never stops leaking
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>>75431>Ok and? Being lonely is better then being a hedonistic freak. Thinking about it i'm now happy being lonely and not being swallowed by my own desiresGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG see you in a couple months where you make your -ACKing thread
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>>75457I'm not the one whose momma got rekt btw
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>>75467you failed to supersage, this is how (You) do it properly nusoi
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>>75468you've asked him to supersage like Ϫ amount of times and he still cant do it, you're dealing with a sub-70 iq faggot
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>>75470Wuz diff before or smh
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>>75470he clearly has problems, i mean i do too but i spend my time trying to seek out help instead of leaking
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>>75475Yeh, we all have problems. Normal people should work to fix their own problems anyways, instead of blaming any given variable for their own shortcomings like a poltranny. I'm not proud of my bisexuality mental illness but I've found it's better to accept myself for something I probably don't have the best mental state to cure, rather than stay miserable for no good reason.
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>>75490trvke, i don't know if you've noticed but i've made about 20 replies to another thread i keep trying to bump and it's sort of keeping me up geg.
it's obvious i have a really bad mental health disorder but i keep doing crazy shit, it's likely i need to go find some irl support or get my mind on something else
>>75491literally everyone here thinks your obsession with OP isn't normal
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>>75493what thread? also what kind of mental disorder do you have that isnt just ADHD/autism like every other person on this site? I have found that just having real people to talk to about anything does miles for your mental health, it's always the anxiety and the trust factors that are a barrier to everything.
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>>75493>trvke, i don't know if you've noticed but i've made about 20 replies to another thread i keep trying to bump and it's sort of keeping me up geg. it's obvious i have a really bad mental health disorder but i keep doing crazy shit, it's likely i need to go find some irl support or get my mind on something else
Wich one?
>literally everyone here thinks your obsession with OP isn't normalLitterally don't care also xe's the only person who made a fag thread since the last 2 weeks or so. I haven't annoyed fags since a year or so anyways. I'm not active on any other site because they are all goyslop
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Failqoute but nvm
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>>75494i'm EAXYPkm0 on the /quit/ one, what i have is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and it's honestly pretty bad.
i got out of an extreme porn addiction not that long ago and i'm remembering a lot of the mistakes i made while hooked to it,
which in turn has been making me worry about a lot of stuff. none of what i fucked up with is what i had an actual attraction to, it was more from being conditioned to hentai on its own but it is certainly stressful to deal with, since my mind has been sort of stuck on it
>>75495you need to stop replying to this thread for your own good
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>>75501>you need to stop replying to this thread for your own goodI reply to it because you do
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>>75501I havent seen that thread, I'll read it. Honestly I kind of struggle with porn too, sex related stuff is the number one worst thing related to my faggotry. I do my absolute best to avoid thinking about stuff as awful as that and focus on the more wholesome and happy romantic side. That's also a big motivation for me staying closeted because most people assume I'd be a massive degenerate like every other brazen faggot that nobody likes.
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>>75503yeah things like that can be tough, with the disorder i have it definitely makes it harder to forget about. i hope you're doing fine with your own struggles
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>>75504I read some of your posts, sounds really rough, especially with OCD in the mix Makes me glad my issues with sexual things isn't nearly as bad. I'm glad I have other regular issues than "I like men" to deal with. At least I'm glad finding a bf/gf would be a nice shortcut to happiness for me. Hopefully stuff works out good for you too.
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>>75505it can be rough indeed, TY a lot for noticing and seeing what i have to deal with. i'll probably take some sort of a break from posting for now
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>>75506Take the wormpill and you will stop being gay
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>>75509Didn't work I just shat myself instead