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>>925381i took IP access away from myself and the other admins and gated it behind a request form
IP access was already extremely restricted, limited to 4 people including myself so we've not had any IP leak incidents in the last 3 years but it still didn't seem safe to me having raw IPs on full display next to people's posts
now it's impossible for anyone to get user IPs without me knowing which gives me some peace of mind
having to go out of my way to navigate to a different page and get my usage logged for the other admins to see also massively deters me from being nosy and snooping on random users
pic is an edit of this pepe
felt fitting to me because i feel blinded not being able to recognise certain posters just from their IPs anymore
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>>925411Warrior Z is gonna be mad
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>>925413he's not a sharty admin
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>>925421he will be agitated irregardless
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>>925411>felt fitting to me because i feel blinded not being able to recognise certain posters just from their IPs anymorewon't you just start recognizing the cloaks
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>>925438Genius the idea is there to stop people from looking at IPs not for them to stop looking at cloaks
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>>925411I always thought it was kinda weird that you attribute alot of stuff just to the ip of a user rather than things like the namefield or filenames
At least the site has a major bulwark against
(((them))) now, I will still probably never use my home ip but I feel more secure knowing that there's now more layers to it :)
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>>925441oh nvm that was something stupid to say you just meant you felt temporarily blinded bc of it
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when is the rust rewrite
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>>925411And obsessing over your userbase is aryan nigga
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>>925451>>925447Okay but when is it
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If sharty makes a betanet site I will dev a rust backend for it I definitely won't datamine user data howeverbeit I promise
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>>925454bro i need that rust rewrite
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>>925438not for people who hop IPs often, since cloaks mean no more being able to make out IP ranges
>>925455what's betanet?
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>>925461it's like the opposite of the alphanet which is what people like clavicular and nick fuentes use
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ok but where's the rust rewrite
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>>925461I remember seeing some yt video of a guy talking about a new approach to the internet where sites are delocalised and there's some kind of voting system for adding/removing features to the whole of betanet.
I only mention rust because they made a few 'feature bounties' that were requested in rust specifically
I have no idea if it's actually feasable as a replacement to HTTPS, but I still think the concept is cool and if it takes off them It's probably worth doing something with it
I think it's meant to hedge against centralised governments having control over web content, and if forced ID sign ups continue to grow over the world then there's a good chance betanet will take off to replace it
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Sorry for the text wall, there's alot of information online around
it's usecases, that I'm probably doing a trashy job of covering.
But it's a cool idea and I would like to be somewhat early to it if
It becomes a thing to replace https
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>>925466why are we all using this
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>>925478What the fuck is a gogglet and kysy
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>>925478Get out of your own head nigga
Rust is a good programming language, It's only associated with troons
Because it isn't really taught in universities, so the only people
who really code in rust are obsessed autists and guess who what alot
of obsessed autistic codefags do when they get groomed using the internet???
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Not every rust dev is a troon, just like not every sharty user is
a natsoc.
fyi
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>>925481You called it an "https replacement", which sounds pretty clueless and inaccurate
>>925483leaky
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>>925482Stop larping as finnish nigga
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>>925466https://github.com/ravendevteam/alternetthis?
seems cool i guess but it won't save you if the government just shuts off the internet infrastructure entirely like iran's goverment did (still down two weeks later kek)
i'm more interested in things like bitchat that use alternative communication channels like bluetooth (impractical meme right now but i really like the concept)
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>>925485Yeah I am probably butchering it but it does not use HTTPS, that's
all I know.
I don't know how stuff is hosted since it's meant to be delocalized, but I imagine it's pretty technical
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>>925487New chatting system idea: you get to speak to people but you get to talk to them infront of their faces and in person and you get to chat to them in person
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I think a system using bluetooth to talke to other people would have a sh*t ton of security vulns and wouldn't be that practical for long distances
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>>925491yeah it's a meme right now but hypothetically if everybody had it installed then you could message someone on the other side of a city with it since the message would bounce from phone to phone to reach them
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>>925494This is just like those heckin apple airtags but for communication
I don't see this going anywhere since I don't see who would use it aside from incredible privacy schizos who would prefer bluetooth over wifi
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>>925487Yeah I think this is it, idk why they changed the name, probably because
some indian niggas made a memecoin to fund the devs/steal volume tax
from the readme
"Its deterrent model, based on the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction, ensures that attempts to suppress the network would harm the attacker as much as the target, making censorship impractical."
Literal words on a screen i have no idea how trying to shut down a site will be bad for the 'attacker' but whatever
I beleive in the tech regardless
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>>925494Kinda like tor then
The problem is, feds will end up putting relays everywhere and take data
from messages, and it probably won't be too expensive to do so
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>>925493newest bluetooth version has ranges up to 50m
>>925496yeah i don't think it's ever going to take off either
still like the concept though
>>925499the messages are supposedly encrypted in transit but yeah feds would probably hoard them anyway until they find a flaw allowing them to decrypt it
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>>925509how was your experience like on it
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>>925509Maybe the concept of sending messages only barely touches on the possiblities of this tech
This could potentially connect every device that has bluetooth into some giga network where
each device is constantly transfering data to each other
This is really cool stuff, I'd be hyped asf if this became more mainstream
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Maybe this will finally break off the obsession with making the cellphone
'the everything device' and we'll finally all start being small tech ware
that do niche tasks just to communicate that over this giga network
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>>925513optimistic
most normies i know irl are too addicted to their phone to use it not for every single purpose a computer can do nowadays
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>>925510pretty boring
nobody within bluetooth range and the bluetooth part is the entire appeal to me so i've got no reason to use the internet based chatrooms
>>925512tsmt
it'd be really cool if phones had something like this preinstalled, that's the only way i see it taking off
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>>925515Nigga I would be obsessed with buying little devices that recorded local
temperature or reocn stock tick data or literal snca data through it
I'd have dozens of these fuckers lining my pockets, it's like muh fuggen cyberpunk or something
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>>925517Apple still dominate but I can imagine they will adopt this tech if it
shows to benefit devices in some way
But I have a feeling that they will make it so only apple products
can relay data from other apple products
But nontheless this is made me quite excited, I can see this taking off, it just seems like it should have existed a while ago
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>>925512>This could potentially connect every device that has bluetooth into some giga network whereeach device is constantly transfering data to each other
this sound very exploitable and i assume most normal people would get scared of it
>>925518like what sort of devices?
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>>925520https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briar_(software)the concept has been around for about 12 years but bitchat is easily the best implementation of it
firechat had the original idea but it was proprietary and the company developing it shut down
briar is open source too and pretty similar but they refuse to create an ios version so it's doomed to never take off
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>>925521Yeah that's why I think having a small device that only handles one task
like recording some data or just relaying it to other devices of the
same kind that will receive that data is the only way this will work.
Maybe this is why you CAN'T do this on a phone, because you could
potentially expoit the data packages to trasnfer malicious code across mulitple
devices in a chain attack of sorts.
So if you buy like a tiny little chip or just like a small cube that looks cool,
where it's soul function is hadnling the bluetooth chain array,
then attacks are just useless because all it might do is disable it at worst,
which you can probably protect against completely after enough time
has passed.
In terms of devices well, just small aesthetic stuff like a small cube or maybe a ring! Or like earrings? Or like a disk, literally anything.
Maybe a watch that shows stock tick data
And (speaking super braodly here) imagine if we did make really good
hologram tech,
This would be PERFECT for this kind of thing. And I imagine it will
be inexpesnive because it's probably only reciving/outputting data
and doesn't require alot of hardware
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this thread makes me feel stupid
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I made some tea and I thought of the perfect usecase for this
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picture a banking firm.
100 floor skyscraper, still runing COBOL, sending data over a network, everything is slow and gay.
The infrastructure is sensitive to attacks, if one thing breaks, everything breaks etc.
Now imagine sending dta through bluetooth.
There's a chain of receivers that are set to 1 freuqency based on the data it's transporting
This can happen totally decentralised from the whole system, recievers only have to be in range to receive the data,
it moves data efficiently exactly where it needs to be.
the initial setup will probably be more expensive than a traditional network,
but FUCK is it cheaper than constantly expanding said network.
This is naturally secure from outside malicious attacks, even shit like global power outages/network shutdowns won't affect the data transfered around the company.
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This is feasable in any big corporation to move data around departments.
And it's all local, and if something breaks, you will know exactly where it's broken and it will be super easy to isolate and fix
The hardware is insanely cheap in comparison, don't even get me started on the lack of initial setup of putting wires literally everywhere!
Bullish on thsi tech. extremely bullish. The potential here is massive.
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Maybe getting a messaging service to work well will be the beginning of popular use of this sort of stuff.
If you can securely bounce a message between 100 devices to another device, then you can definitely get something small like, the account balance of a customer from floor 1 to floor 23 in a directly set up bluetooth chain
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>>925541>>925543>>925544finally somebody else who gets it
everyone else i've spoken to about this so far just tells me it's a meme that'll never work
i really want big mesh networks like this that have no reliance on the internet to take off because of how much harder it makes censorship
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>>925547hype hype hype
If bluetooth chipsets are cheap then i might fuck around with that and try to make something in just my house maybe?
I mean, it doesn't actually sound that difficult to create a prototype of
I'm sure alot of people using bitchat have fucked around with this concept too
When I set something like this up, I'll post about it on here
It's made me kind of giddy idk This is such a cool idea I'm sure people will love it!
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I think this is totally scalable for astronimcal distances too btw
SOmething something quantum transportation, you can move particals over massive distances easily.
Don't ask me about the specifics it was some random xitter post summerising the experiment,
but this is absolutely feasable for transfering radio waves too.
Imagine if you can do this, across space, massive distances away, with low latency communication
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That's just whatever though, that would be cool but I still think the practical use of a chain like bluetooth node network sounds fucking awesome
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>>925552how would i talk to my cordxisters from other coutnries doe….
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>>925553maybe discord would be too data heavy for this
you could parse it but discord would have to set that up
and then communication methods will change entirely…
Fuck nigga this is so cool this could change everything
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>>925478ok mut lowkey mikรค vittu on gogglet