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>>3316174 (OP)allah knows best
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>>3316174 (OP)Because he's evil
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to make you leak specifically
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because its based and christpilled
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>hard mode: don't say free will
that's like saying
>alright what's 2+2? and don't say "4" I want a proper answer
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>>3316194free will doesnt exist
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god cant do bad tho
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>>3316198oh the christpill..
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>>3316196kiss yourself fatalismcuck
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god didnt make arabs. he had already left earth to white people after jesus died for our sins then monkeys devolved into muslims
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>>3316196how can anyone on his right mind believe he doesn't get to choose what to do or believe? wtf man
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>>3316207Jesus is a middle eastern jew doe tf
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>>3316209every decision youve ever made in your life comes down to 2 factors: your genetics and the environment you were born in. neither of which you can control. theres no third variable. i can elab if needed
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God doesn't control who and how someone gets born, it's all decided by the genes of the parents.
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>>3316212It's only genetics
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>>3316212You can control your future.
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>>3316226the same genetics existing in the slums of niggerhell and in an upper class suburb wont lead to the same perspectives on things in general at all
>>3316227how so
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>>3316207Then what was Shem and the Semites
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>>3316241it was the blacks all along.. dey superior mane
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>>3316252You become adapted to your genes and you try to get out of your current environment.
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>>3316252The Aryan spirit codified in genetics triumphs above pathetic environmental conditions
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>>3316259wym what you are contradicting the whole premises of the bible and making me leak a lil
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>>3316207your altered religion claims moses, a prophet of god, asked people to 'ill everyone after a war (including cacas) and to keep girls "for them" in Numbers 31:17-18
yet you claim we're the animals
honestly this isn't surprising coming from someone namefaggins as "gokuposter" holy shit
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>>3316260escaping your environment requires traits and opportunities you didnt choose. theyre caused by genetics and past experience
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>>3316272Anyone can escape the environment, even low iq niggers escape from Africa to Europe.
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>>3316281youre missing the point
>>3316282i thought god was heckin omnibenevolent doe
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I'm not a Christglubba but I think it's something like how life is a test and the hardships are to test your loyalty to god or something.
Or am I mixing up Islam here
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>>3316300why would an omniscient god create a test already knowing the results and then punish the failures?
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>>3316313I ask this question to them too but they haven't had a clear cut answer yet
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>>3316328Actually I do get clear answers, typically it's along the lines of "god supersedes logic"
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>>3316300why would god even care for loyality
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>>3316340god allowing a baby to die of malaria a few days after birth = part of the divine will, bro!
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Why do you care?
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>>3316340i once had a 2 hour argument with my orthodox friend about something else about god and he ended up admitting that god has to follow logic so my case against god wouldn't work, it being the only thing constraining him
no i will not elaborate because it hurts my brain to recall that because it was so convoluted but it was logically sound
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>>3316227We have the illusion of free will but the important point is that technically free will doesn't exist, especially if an omniscient God is real, since he would have created the world with the exact knowledge of how things unfold.
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>>3316351To understand a thing, you have to seek understanding of it. To believe that you know the thing doesn't exist, then claim to know its workings while claiming to know it doesnt exist, is madness.
Then you top it off with the justification of boredom.
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>>3316367cringe attempt at psychoanalysing. ur not an anime character retard
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>>3316352Basically God revealed to us that a portion of his nature is 'logic'.
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>>3316374Contend with the ideas I laid before you.
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>>3316386feel free to enlighten me instead of just saying shit
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>>3316207posting retarded shit like this and then taking a nap is one of my favorite hobbies
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>>3316392If the justification for basically asking "why should I believe that God is good or even real?" Is because you are bored, your heart is not open, you mind is not open, and you will not achieve any kind of understanding, regardless of what anyone says.
The grounding that there is actually a understanding you can get, is that for over 2000 years, there has been billions of people who have converted and lived as believing, righteous and devout Christians.
<redditAlso, you could've just said you didnt understand.
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>>3316445keyed gnostic trvth seeker
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>>3316458youre refusing to answer the op u mouthbreathing nigger retard
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>>3316452>>3316445Gnosticism is an iron age sandmonkey meme, if you fall for it in the 21st century you are either a schizo or a retard
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>>3316461And im telling you that the state of mind and heart you are in will not allow you to understand anything.
Why does this trigger you?
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Do you mean genetics, attractiveness or deeds by "imperfection"?
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>>3316470its the most logical conclusion one can come to in regards to the afterlife and things of that nature imo
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>>3316480Probably so that people won't compare themselves to perfect humans and perfect humans would be limited to prophets(and Jesus too if it's christian)
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>>3316485if god can make prophets less flawed, then human imperfection is a design choice not an excuse
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>>3316470Basically like all Abrahamic beliefs o also.
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>>3316174 (OP)We choose imperfection
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>>3316490And if you mean Hell by "Punishing", only God knows how much people will be punished
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>>3316499that still dodges the principle. whether god punishes a thousand or a million, the question is why he punishes anyone for being the predictable result of genetics, environment, ignorance, and conditions they never chose
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>>3316510??? nigga you said deeds
Also:
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>>3316514deeds as in actions, correct
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the answer is that there is none, we needed a story that added power to a set of principles we created for normgroids to stop being degenerate, so we made it up like we can with any story
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>>3316540tsmt and a total trvke
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>>3316552thats funny considering christians indirectly worship saturn
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Lucifarians been trying since the beginning of time to decieve the masses. Its failing doe.
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>>3316514wait was i right?
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read the theory of forms
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>>3316620the cross is just an unfolded box representing the black cube of saturns north pole, christmas itself is just saturnalia renamed
>>3316627tldr?
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Have you ever heard of Abraxas chuddy?
>There is a God about whom you know nothing, because men have forgotten him. We call him by his name: Abraxas. He is less definite than God or Devil. … Abraxas is activity: nothing can resist him but the unreal … Abraxas stands above the sun[-god] and above the devil If the Pleroma were capable of having a being, Abraxas would be its manifestation.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas №3316645[Quote]
>>3316642like in that one book
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>>3316642no. im not gnostic
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>>3316637the cross wasnt the original symbol of christianity
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>>3316647doesnt mean it wasnt imported from saturn worship or some hidden occult system. symbols develop over time
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>the cross is just an unfolded box representing the black cube of saturns north pole, christmas itself is just saturnalia renamed
Only if you put it in a 1x1x1x2 ratio which was really rare or not present for most of church history until protestants discovered (((minecraft)))
>tldr?
Reality is less real than heaven. Perfect things exist in heaven and the earth is just an imitation. Humans were given stewardship over the earth and fucked it up, now it drifts away from the forms. God promises to make everything right in the future. When you die it will be viscerally evident that earth is less real than the spiritual realm.
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>>3316174 (OP)ITS THE DEMIURGES FAULT!!!
GOD NOT REAL!! ITS DA DEMIURGE!!
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>>3316663doesnt solve the accountability problem. if earth is a lesser imitation, humans are less spiritually clear, less rational, less informed, and less "real" than beings in heaven, why are they judged as if they had perfect clarity?
>>3316666nobody chooses their brain impulses intelligence trauma culture parents temptations ignorance or environment
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>>3316675So should everyone start out from the exact same enviroment and parents or what? I think even coming from the worst influence you should be able to change ofc its a big disadvantage. Brain impulses dont have absolute power over your will that would make you similar to an AI. Even if your brain and inteligence tells you the best option you can still say otherwise because your not forced to do as your "brain" impulses tell you.
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>>>3316663 (You)
>doesnt solve the accountability problem. if earth is a lesser imitation, humans are less spiritually clear, less rational, less informed, and less "real" than beings in heaven, why are they judged as if they had perfect clarity?
Humans have a spirit and are endowed with the likeness of god, this is what sets them apart from animals and makes them eternal. Theyre judged according to the decisions they make with the knowledge they have, not according to perfection. I would quote scripture but i dont remember verse by verse, i just know its in there.
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>>3316675Also if we go by God is perfectly just in his judgements, enviromental disadvantages, grooming, bad parents and all that will account to God's judgement, but you cant hide behind bad enviroment since you have a spirit and free will
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>>3316693Thats aryan though
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>>3316682no not everyone needs the exact same parents. the point is that unequal starting conditions destroy the idea of a perfectly fair divine test
>>3316686why doesnt god give everyone equal knowledge? "humans have a spirit" doesnt solve the causal problem. it just moves it from biology to metaphysics
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>>3316697after god accounts for genetics, trauma, grooming, parents, culture, ignorance, fear, temptation, mental health, what part is left that is purely self created and blameworthy?
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>>3316701idk maybe if you knew everything you would just goon to it and be condemed
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>>3316709so god hides knowledge because humans might misuse it then judges humans for acting with incomplete knowledge?
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>>3316270rape and killing are good doe. god is on your side if you are the victor. god is victory. heil victory, heil yhwh nigga. sacrifice nigger babies to yhwh nigga. also egypt was a war. its not murder if its war
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>>3316708You do not seriously think theese fully make your character, do you? Many disadvantageous people can overcome thoose disadvantages, and gifted people with good influence can still become rtarded freaks. Why would you think an all knowing God wouldnt make a fair judgement
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>>3316700I want you to write me a short story without using language, and I want you to post it in this thread