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I was watching a YouTube stream and which a self proclaimed "Agnostic Atheist Satanist" was inviting Christians to come and debate him on the existence of God. His main point was that nobody could possibly know that God is real or how we all got here.

I decided to join and make the point that his main argument is an argument from personal incredulity, which is a logical fallacy. However, he kept kicking and muting me while I was trying to speak. I stuck around just to see if I could get a word in edgewise, and I got to hear the arguments from the other listeners. And I realized something: MOST CHRISTIANS ARE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE AT DEBATE! This guy wasn't intelligent, it was basically playing rhetorical tee ball, but everyone was just choking! It was sad to see.

Anyway, I eventually got my point out about him committing a logical fallacy with his argument and he just instantly kicked me and said he didn't understand, go figure.
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>>2773718
>da fuggen religioncacas are the reason people in less technologically and medically advanced times died early mane
never argue again

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>>2773724
idk mayne… these stupid jewish israeli libtard secular countries seem like nice places to live….

whereas the few religious countries like the muslims sharia ones: COMPLETE SHITHOLES

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>>2773724
you should check on what he was replying to before saying shit

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>>2773731
yeah they're both retarded, I'm not a reactionary. But this new age secular bullshit where they actually believe that the
>fuggen christians set europe back centuries and the fuggen dark age mane
is completely retarded and a spurious correlation.

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>>2773741
Also, life expectancy can be an indicator of a prosperous society but who outside of progressives actually think the social cohesion and culture is good right now compared to the past.

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>>2773741
I'm no history nerd, but there is no debate in that religion extremist is a force against scientific and cultural progress, and that it certainly applies at some degree to this period of time

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>>2773750
extremism*

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>>2773741
This argument is stupid because christianity is one of the most acceptable relegions regarding to soyence because they were able to hold onto both their beliefs and the profound realities of material world that some relegions like pisslam couldnt handle. At one point islam was the pioneer of scientific discoveries (which were mostly gotten from ancient greek scientist but science is empirical anyway so who cares). But at some point the relegion couldnt keep up with the material world and cracked, there is no mudslime invention prominent enough to influence anything other than algebra or anything that was discovered/invented 1500 years ago.

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>>2773750
Fair, but how prominent would you say "religious extremism" was in Europe? I feel like everyone has this perception that all christians in medeival Europe were these pilgrim puritans who were doing witch burnings every other week. I'm not saying scientific advancements are solely because of Christians but almost all scientific theories and concepts can be traced back to christians. Not saying they made those discoveries because they were christians but I think it proves they were not and are not mutually exclusive.

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nophono stream

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methodism vvon or something o algo

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>>2773749
so true king.

back in my day, i beat my wife all day which was BASED cuz women = trash

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>>2773755
soyence is not scientific progress

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>>2773792
what are you even niggerbabbling about man

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>>2773773
Probably because christians weren't super retarded and were actually able to progress unlike muslims

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I don't know what you gentlemen are arguing about anymore, but keep bumping the thread! I'm going to bed now, so goodnight everyphono.

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>>2773810
goodnight

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>>2773792
I already said I was not a reactionary, you didnt actually read anything I said you just said your gay little thought terminating quip. Do you watch Destiny by any chance?

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>>2773806
trvth nvke

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>>2773773
very, because being a relevant figure with heretical views meant mostly being punished with death, from the little I know about history
>Not saying they made those discoveries because they were christians but I think it proves they were not and are not mutually exclusive.
maybe they could've made more discoveries if the political establishment and culture of the time actually encouraged them to do so. but certainly they aren't mutually exclusive

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>>2773717
i'll convert to Christianity rn if u prove to me jesus came back to lif

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>>2773821
Yes i do, in fact I donate to his streams all day

Everytime i destroy a stupid groyper like you i donate 5 bucks to him

so far im at 125 bucks donated to my king destiny

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>>2773827
Generally speaking, I think the perception people have about Christianity in the "Dark Ages" is sensationalized and overplayed due to pop history. Was there persecution against scientists due to religion? Yes. But I don't think it was prominent or common enough to make the statement that christians "stopped or slowed scientific progress". At least not in a meaningful way.

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>>2773836
>nusoicacas think that I am a groyper

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>>2773836
if you are serious kill yourself you need to be thrown into a vat of acid

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>>2773887
man finally discovers that everything is not bad as people portray it to be

libertarian christians are advancing, and it's scary

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>>2773894
Yes i am serious

I love destiny,

I love soyence (better then ur steak tallow cooked garbage btw)

Andi own u ancap christcuck fags LMAO xD

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>>2773898
>nusoi thinks the clittycel neonazi christians on here are ancaps

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>>2773887
yes I agree. in fact, I think science is currently more censored now. besides it's scope being bigger, a lot of things can't be researched properly to not end up being "racist", "homophobic" etc

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Niggasodan orthocux is actually right even doe hes a namefag
<Space for prayer

The average teen is either christian or an agnostic athiest.

Pagans are mildy sooty larpers

Muslims are megacoal. (Fuck you delcattypedo and warrior p)

Buddhists generally dont post much but they make some gems every now and then

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>>2773887
Many inventions from the medieval era were from monks. And monks generally did most of the medical sciences too and acted as doctors. Its why even to today, medkits have a cross on them

The law of hereditary genes, spectacles(glasses), music notation, heavy plow. all invented by monks.

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thread over.

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>>2773135
>god is good
>god is all powerful
>god is all knowing
>god also killed everyone but 2 people in the bible
Pick one false statement, because all of them cant be true at the same time

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>>2774001
respect my authority

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>>2774001
nusois……… tell me where he killed everyone but 2 people

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>>2774004
respect my authority

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Send link
We could have a new gegbvll if we keep jumping in and yelling nigger

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>>2773112 (OP)
Most people are terrible at debating literally anything. It's all about "vibes" and "winning" to them. This is why learning through pain inflicted upon the self is the only thing that works. The very deep and lasting kind of pain where you can't possibly blame someone or something else and it destroys a part of your pride.

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>>2774009
>>2774011
minnesota orthodox is in bed now good night
and respect my authority

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>>2774004
Dumb abranigger didnt even read the old testament

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>>2774014
nophono cares

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>>2774014
if you're talking about noah's ark
you should know…
that there were EIGHT people on the ark
noah, his wife, 3 sons and their wives
i just wanted to hear you say it to prove you are a fucking retard KEK pepe

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fuggen necro reanimated thread

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>>2774018
>midwit pedanticism instead of a counterargument
Typical behaviour

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>>2773919
I individually checked everything you just said and 75% of it is not true
>hereditary genes
Yes that was invented by Monks
>spectacles
Most sources say it came from 13th century Italy form artisans.
>music notation
Somewhat; but not in its entirety
>Heavy Plow
Nope most sources say agricultural medieval Europe
>most inventions from medieval era were from monks
They contributed but most of it was Christians
>monks were doctors and medical scientists
Moreso caregivers from what I've read, they copied medical texts and practiced herbal medicine but I would not call them doctors
>Thats why medkits have a cross on it
??? It comes from the Red Cross and was inspired by the Swiss flag.
But anyways I'm supersaging because this thread is mostly bait and nophono

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>>2774021
my point is that you haven't read the bible yet you try citing it
And the extermination of the rest of humanity who worshipped satan and sacrificed their children what else is justified

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>>2774023
If god is all powerful, all knowing and good he would be able to deliver suffiecient punishment to sinners and then convert them to good instead of killing them outright. And i didnt cite the bible, and unlike you i dont actually need to know its exact contents because im not an abranigger

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>>2774025
wouldn't you be able to say that God could convert everyone in the world right now?
No, that's not free will.
God was actively looking for righteous people and found noah, after that he delivered punishment (death) onto others

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>>2774028
Why couldnt he create a world of righteous people? Moreover, if god is good, and humans were created in his imagine, how can anyone even be anything but righteous?

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>>2773830

Necrobumping but what you said intrigued me

That's something for you to come to terms with yourself IMO

The reason why I believe Christ truly rose from the dead are a multitude of factors

1. Miraculous accounts of the modern day (Shroud of Turin, Sudarium of Ovadia, Marian apparitions, The holy fire of Jerusalem, 1900's accounts of miracles in Soviet Russia, modern day weeping icons in the Orthodox Church, Eucharistic miracles)

2. The "lie" of Christ's resurrection would have to be planned so far in advance that meticulously the logic would make no sense. 12 out of the 12 apostles would have to give their own lives to a "lie" they supposedly "seen" with their eyes, the people who witnessed the miracles of the apostles in Jerusalem (the thousands who converted) would have to have been lying about their miracles that they personally witnessed, and much more

3. The gospels were really early and were attested to in Paul's epistles (of whom he calls his personal Gospel) and the Pastoral letters (which were written pre 60 AD). If the Gospels were written pre 60 AD and foretold the fall of the second temple in 70 AD, then this is an obvious sign of precognition on the authors' (Matthew, Mark, & Luke) behalf.

4. Philosophical reasons on why Atheism can't be true and God must be an all powerful personal being.

5. The Church conquering rome in 300 years and Constantine the Great (one of the only White European emperors, an illyrian geg) was gifted a vision by Christ foretelling his victory, to which he converted, and the following emperor said "You have won, Gallilean".

6.The historical accounts of Sts Clement of Rome & Irenaeaus, St. Polycarp, Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Suetonius, and Lucian all attest to how there was a church that existed pre 100 AD and all feel extremely organic.

7. The undesigned coincidences of the 4 gospels line up and paint a clear and coherent picture using seperate details that explain settings/meanings that others don't include and feel extremely organic instead of being a falsehood.

And much more alongside personal faith.

To be honest, I can't really hand something to you to convince yo uthat Christianity is the true religion, as you will always have the ability granted to you by God to decide that if you want to love him or not, but if I were to give you my best pieces of physical evidence it would probably be the history of the early church and how it conquered rome alongside modern day miracles in 1.



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