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i dont agree with what i said im very confused
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>>2616816make sure to hate yourself for it
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Zionism is gemerald
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fascism is keyed. we SHOULD kill the degenerates ruining our society and remove jewish tyranny
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GEG op changed his opinion on fascism, why go from coal to iron?
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Trvke
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>>2616828i cant make up my mind but i still hate communism the same
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>>2616823i dont think we should kill people who are degenerates unless they're harming people in serious ways
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>>2616841we should jail them and torture them till they learn their lesson
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>>2616831Alright but what's bad about fascism?
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>>2616831can't make up your mind? whats keeping you from fascism
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>>2616823Don't think we should kill them, but definetly remove zog
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>>2616864None of this would have happened if the jews were in control BTW
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Communism is brim, fascism is iron, but hoppeanism is a gen.
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>>2616851the fact that historically it has always been used as excuse to kill people you dont like
e.g pinochet and my family
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>>2616867Please don't replace alunyafaggot in being a baiting namefag
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>>2616868Hoppeanism is antisemitic brimstone
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>>2616874Ok brodie, Pinochet wasn't fascist, just authoritarian capitalist
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>>2616875I might replace xher or i might not
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>>2616880my dad who has a phd in latin american history and studied chilean history extensively said he was but he also said that his main goal was killing commies so he's kinda based?
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>>2616856we can't return canada to normality unless some people A. die or B. mass remigration.
>jeets are forming anti-white millitas, starting street gangs and are now pushing even more fentanyl>mudslimes are raping canadian children en mass (jeets included)>there are so many migrants people in the east can't get jobs and are living in tents, house pricing is 1000 years of niggerslavery to buy a house â„–2616917[Quote]
my family was aligned to the communist party my grandpa even met Allende the former president of communist chile
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>>2616933Free market capitalism is what made america the worlds biggest superpower.
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>>2616914i do agree with this to a extent but i wouldnt be here if not for immigration
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>>2616940Golden age capitalism was when we taxed the 1% 94%
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hoppeanism won. austrian school economics won.
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>>2616947kys spic I hate you and ur entire family
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>>2616943Only if you're a jew
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>>2616933communism is a form of oppression so its coaly
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>>2616864ur boomer father still raped you doe
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HANS HERMAN HOPPE WON
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>>2616958Jews are the master race
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hermann*
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>>2616961hes gay and trans and likes BBC
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>>2616972Falsenvke, hans herman hoppe said that the gays are degenerates who can't save money and that heteronormativity is good.
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Kill stratocrats. Kill fascists. Kill commies. Kill statists. Kill liberals. Kill kikes. Hoppeanism won
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>>2616963Yes it is except pol pot and the bolsheviks
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>>2616980Only trvkes here.
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>>2616975you are a spic and ur father seems like the typical commie rat. die nigger
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>>2616900Yep, he was the one who made dropping commies out of helicopters famous after all
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Hoppeanism sounds pretty based
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>>2616980explain how hoppe is not a liberal
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I agree
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>>2616985my father hates communism and im half white and take after my mother
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>>2616992read his work, even at minimum just read his wikipedia
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>>2616990you are not over 16, please get off this site
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>>2616990It is, we want to remove all the trannies from society via property based discrimination.
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>>2616914Yeah obviously mass deportations/remigration
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>>2616997why cant you explain? hoppe is an ultra liberal
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>>2616987Snca nothing burger
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Anyways, goyim are inferior to jews
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>>2617005Hoppe is only liberal insofar as he believes in liberalizing the economy in order to let property owners buy up land and establish private counties that discriminate against blacks and fags.
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Groypers won politically
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theres a difference between political liberal and economic liberal
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>>2617001at the same time the public would probably just fuck everything up so its probably a bad idea
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>>2617016Please do better bait this is low effort
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>>2617007everything he believes is liberal, he loves liberal economics, loves "human rights", is a faggot and loves faggotry and troons, hate race, only likes the state in the sense that it enforces capitalism.
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Niggers won
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>>2617025ok saar, anyway i can improve
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>>2616947nigger. the amount of kids i have seen get raped in the news, the kids i've talked to who told me they were sodomized by older men and now they are faggots… its just so fucking aggravating. these niggers literally need to die. kids in highschools O-D daily and its all pushed by migrants (even our own government will give children METH PIPES and NEEDLES to "do drugs safely") lukewarm conservatives aren't going to do anything even if they gained power. we need to be frantic about this. the anglo race is in danger and our countries are becoming third world shitholes, we need to do something drastic to fix our countries.
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>>2617027none of this is even true geg
"liberal economics" cannot be equated to modern day political liberalism
he hates the state for everything it does, he only states the positives. the state has overwhelming downsides to its positives
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>>2617018he does think we should discriminate against anyone, only that we may have the right to (a liberal statement). If you want to know what happens to racial segregation under capitalism look up "block busting" this is basic historical knowledge.
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>>2617022There is demand in the market for private communities. A lot of them used to exist before the government introduced civil rights which took away freedom of association. If we were allowed to create these private societies they would be made, as a lot of people want to live in high-trust places without hedonism.
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>>2617033yeah thats probably true but also why are you talking to kids about sodomy?
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>>2616995I thought you said you were white,
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>>2617036hoppe loves the state. there is no capitalism without the state. We can therefore conclude that he only hates race, and hates fascism.
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>>2617041a kid confided with me that he was sodomized and became a faggot while i was talking about hating fags because they are pedophiles
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>>2617042im chilean (white) and germanic and irish
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>>2617046please explain why im wrong? without the sate enforcement workers will unionise and take means of production for themselves. this is why he is a "monarchist" or supports microstates or whatever. He only hates when the state is anti liberal, when it is for the race and true ideal instead of capital.
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>>2617031I mean everybody here knows that the talmud dehumanizes goyim and all that. You could atleast try to say some obscure shit tied to jews, Israel, kosher or Trump that would probably be funny
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>>2617047i understand now
Faggots are infact degenerates and the government loves them for some reason
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>>2617039can you please stop indoctrinating this poor kid?
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>>2617057…companies dont have to rely on the state for everything yknow? its why private security exists?
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>>2617057How will degenerate pleebs have enough resources to overthrow the private militaries being funded by smart people who actually care about the long-term sustainment of society?
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>>2617048Google says that the chilean population is 95% white so I think you can consider yourself white geg
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>>2617065It because the people in power are sodomites who rape children
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>>2617067I WILL evangelize hoppeanism because it is objectivley correct.
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>>2617067companies rely on the state enforcement to enforce the relation between workers and capital, your knowledge of the world is childish and you have not yet been able to refute me. fascism won buf won.
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>>2617086they really just dont and it has barely ever been the case
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>>2617086In the wild west there was no state enforcement of property rights yet private businesses still existed
And private police were funded to protect those buisnesses.
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>>2617071there are much more workers and companies rely on workers to work so they can produce, this is why commies say capitalism is exploitative. your knowledge of the world is childish.
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it basically boils down to 'i dont think companies can protect themselves and influence people without the state'. they most certainly can and has been exacerbated in time
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>>2617092source? in the wild west there will still state and prisons ect. either way it is a matter of time till such an exploitative arrangement is ended regardless of whether it exists at any point.
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>>2617103ok I will strike and refuse to work then, what will you do? historically workers have created unions, and they will do that same even without state, it is true that the state was the thing that prevented the unions for spreading.
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>>2617078thank christ im fully white
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>>2617091it has always been the case and is still the case now. why does it scare you when I say fascism won? are you a kike? maybe you are brown.
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>>2617120just like how it normally would, the company would either enter negotiations or use private security force to put it down
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>>2617110The US government technically said they had juristiction over the area but there was no enforcement of it, since the state hadn't gotten their Bureaucracies set up yet. All of the police were funded privately. That's literally why they call it the wild west. The book "the not so wild wild west" goes into this.
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>>2617066i dont care about that ideology im still sticking with centrism
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>>2617133historically it was the state and police that stopped it, you cannot force me to work I will simply found my own coop.
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>>2617137aryan, your arguments are already been refuted by me so this entire conversation is basically you insulting me with your stupidity.
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>>2617142and what is the problem with that i dont see it
if the company wants to enforce their rules & laws then so be it
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>>2617135it does matter anyway. I have no knowlege of this period so I cannot comment but I think your presentation is biased despite the fact it still does matter.
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>>2617157same nigger who advocates for pedophilia and communism
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Anglosphere infighting guys stop it
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>>2617158Communism yes, made shit up award
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>>2617162Commies are not allowed to be considered western.
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>>2617162Anglosphere and nords are such faggots
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>>2617148it seems strange to me that you admit capitalism is exploitative but cannot admit that it will end. and yes If I strike and take means of production for myself than that is the end of capitalism, so you are admitting here that capitalism ending is no problem. the truth in all historical cases of the disintergration of the state is that the workers have taken means of production.
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>>2617166TRVKE its a slav ideology and slavs arent white
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>>2617166Who is the commie in the reppeys its snca so I can't bother to read
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>>2617173capitalism is a spic ideology which is why you should not be considered white.
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>>2617170capitalism is cool and puts down the people who arent willing to work
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>>2617177im a white hispanic problem with that chud?
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>>2617178>is americanthis is ironic is it not?
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>>2617174Idk but they are corporatoids so that's like 3 steps away from communism, they are vehemently against capitalism which the west was built on.
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>>2617173Slavs are whiter than Germans and nords since they beat both of them
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>>2617180in capitalism the company owners do not work and are rich, the workers are poor.
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>>2617182yes, studies show that majority who consider themselves white hispanic are somewhat mixed
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>>2617185Really? Now its seca who are the corporatists
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>>2617191Nigga thinks the economy is zero sum.
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>>2617195show me the studies
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>>2617201Made shit up award
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>>2617170everything is exploitative buddy and ur shitflinging ideology isnt different, you will not escape the force of will, you will only limit it. the state shouldnt be a force, a nanny i may say, to enforce its will over EVERYBODY, a large piece of territory, rather segregated and split into smaller administrative regions separate from a larger state
what do you not get that private security can do everything the state can? they can put down strikes as much as the state can, they can be the negotiator as much as the state can
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>>2617191the people who made the companies worked hard for what they achieved so i think its fair
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>>2617200nigga thinks there is no wage theft
nigga thinks capital owners actually earn anything
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>>2617203this is true no matter what we do we are always slaves
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>>2617203>everything is exploitativegeg geg geg
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too long didnt read shit nophono gives a fuck about btw
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>>2617207Theft is when you voluntarily do something for money i guess.
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>>2617185evendoe communism is an anti state ideology?
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>>2617218it is "voluntary" but if I do not do it I die.
there is this thing called coercion you know?
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fascism sounds way cooler cuz the commies are just leaking in the replies
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>>2617219The Direct democracy commiepedotroons advocate for is just anarcho-tyranny, if you have some elected council of resource distribution it's no different from a stalinist regime in practice.
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do aussiecucks really?
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>>2617203there is no will being enforced. the people and the state are one.
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>>2617232is that not enforcing the states will that the people should be conjoined into one
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>>2617226Wow you have to produce value to society to get value. How terrible. You SHOULD have the right to rape kids and get free healthcare and food for doing nothing.
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>>2617228communists think that there should be no state and everything owned by workers, so yes its true. USSR was worker controlled (at least in theory, but it is complicated). I have formal education is politics so I dont know why you are getting so angry at this basic knowlege that I was taught first thing.
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>>2617226this is just the same for anything
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>>2617238I agree, capital owners dont produce anything of value to society.
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>>2617238>you should starve even when we produce enough food for everyonegeeeeg do capitalist cucks really?
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>>2617245Yeah, You agree that you should be able to rape kids, obviously. That's the whole point of ancomism.
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>>2617241quote from marx where he says that?
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>>2617239every single time in history when anything has been worker controlled it has resulted in bureaucracy and on a national scale that is not possible without the state
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>>2617249capital owners dont produce anything but are rich from stealing, prove me wrong instead of insulting me please.
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>>2617253search up Tuneyadstvo
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>>2617257They dunk a bunch of money into a factory to produce goods that people like and the workers don't have to pay the cost whilst reaping part of the profit. Bosses provide stability and reliable income whilst they eat the risk. Because risk is an aspect of value. That's why insurance companies exist.
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>>2617254the point of the USSR (which I assume you are referencing) was to establish worker coops and eventually let the state disolve, but that didnt happen due to complex political problems which has caused you to become biased against it and think it was authoritarian. can you provide study proving worker co-ops do not work or require outside bureaucracy?
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>>2617263>they produce value because they buy the means of productionthis is circular logic, all of their money comes from stealing in the first place.
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>>2617271No they produce value by creating the means of production and raking the risks of that investment. The reason people work is because the investment is risky and/or they could not afford to build a factory.
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>>2617267ye u can just take in account the bankruptcy of the fagor group in 2013
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>>2617280not related at all. can you explain why capital owners are necessary for me to work? they provide nothing.
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I hate everyone even those who agree with me
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>>2617278workers create the means of production and the capitalists steal it actually. you simply must put ur faith in the market like a religious idol to believe this.
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>>2617294You're just making assertions without refuting what i'm saying or substantiating what your saying with any logical reasoning.
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>>2617296workers create the means of production, markets are not valid indicators of functional use and having faith in market prices ignores labour cost of producing commodity. how is this not a refutation?
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>>2617287everything here is just what I have also been point out, where does he say that other workers must die? I do not think you have even read the page you have just sent me.
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>>2617306this is apparently the political genius
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>>2617298worker coops are not everywhere because capitalists have historically prevented them from forming. I have answered the question in the article there. all this article says the that people might be "lazy" lol try look at capital owners for an example of that.
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>>2617312geg if you are so intelligent explain what is wrong in the page I have been sent. I have just re-read it any everything there appears to be correct, it is simply refuting ur argument that disappearance of class property means end of production.
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>>2617298geg I have now read this entire article you have linked me and it is literally pro co-op and also refutes ur arguments. It is a same that a fellow countryman is so retarded, was this article the first result of a google search with my question?
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>>2617334nah dis blvd is so obsessed