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I think one of the things I despite most about Japanese media, in particular Anime and Manga, is the fact that normal stories can randomly turn into pornographic material for no good reason.
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In the West we have (or, perhaps had, as this has diminished somewhat in the modern day) a very clear distinction between media that is public, non-pornographic art and pornographic material which is to be hidden away. Even if a work is very adult, that is to say featuring violence, mature themes, etc., it will likely not go beyond the pale of featuring sexual themes lest it be placed in the category of pornography. This distinction is also made by the fact that pornography in the West makes no attempt at telling a story, having a plot, or anything like that. While I hate pornography and think it has no place in a civilized society, I understand the practical function of this distinction and see it as a very good thing.
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This is as opposed to Japanese "art", where an anime or manga can go a very long time without featuring any pornographic material and being largely appropriate for all audiences (although featuring Japans patented lewd sense of humor), and then suddenly feature graphic nudity at the drop of a hat. This is also exemplified by the Japanese media that both invests time and effort into the plot while also just being outright pornography from the get-go. To my admittedly biased western perspective, this makes up the majority of Japanese media.
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This blending of the public art with pornography sickens me in a kind of primeval, prelapsarian way, I don't even know how to describe it. It seriously makes me uneasy.
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Writing this out because I can't sleep and was just reminded, to my abject disgust, that one "Rent a Girlfriend" exists. Do not correct me if somehow I got details wrong pertaining to that one particular manga, I don't care and I never intend to read such filth. I hope any of this made sense, I am very tired.
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Somehow you would get called woke for saying this
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Go to sleep, gramps.
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>>2506755Aren't leftist the one's with a porn addiction doe?
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>>2506754 (OP)many western movies have nudity and sex scenes too, whats your point?
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>>2506755Are you referring to the heckin based right wingers on Twitter who think winning the Kulturkampf means playing video games with overly sexualized characters and promoting such things in mainstream media? I dislike those people very much.
>>2506767I guess I'm referring to a more traditional view of pornography. I'm aware movies have become more and more pornographic as of recently, but I think it's obvious it's much worse in Japan. You could see Japan as a canary in the coal mine in this case.
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>>2506760Believe or not there are a ton of gooners who aren't left leaning
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>>2506767They tend to be much more tasteful and relevant to the plot. And they're usually not outright porn that can be jerked to.
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>>2506776Xitter users don't count doe
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>>2506785do indonesians count?
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>>2506775Yeah those people. I remember going to 4cuck at one point and I saw a thread on /tv/ where people unironically believe anime is masculine and trad
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>>2506789anime is incredibly faggy and progressive these people are delusional. Anime is worse than western media in this regard, take that from someone who live in a country of loser anime adicts
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>>2506793>>2506799That being said they only say this because the west is pushing gay and tranny shit onto everything now.
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>>2506754 (OP)The current japanese society is solely built upon consumption taken to the extreme ever since the usa mingled with the rebuilding of the nation. It was the usa's lab rat for a long time and this is precisely the result
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>>2506806thats the whole world now not just japan. the rest of east asia is just like japan in every way amongst the young people.
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>I think one of the things I despite most about Japanese media, in particular Anime and Manga, is the fact that normal stories can randomly turn into pornographic material for no good reason.
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>In the West we have (or, perhaps had, as this has diminished somewhat in the modern day) a very clear distinction between media that is public, non-pornographic art and pornographic material which is to be hidden away. Even if a work is very adult, that is to say featuring violence, mature themes, etc., it will likely not go beyond the pale of featuring sexual themes lest it be placed in the category of pornography. This distinction is also made by the fact that pornography in the West makes no attempt at telling a story, having a plot, or anything like that. While I hate pornography and think it has no place in a civilized society, I understand the practical function of this distinction and see it as a very good thing.
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>This is as opposed to Japanese "art", where an anime or manga can go a very long time without featuring any pornographic material and being largely appropriate for all audiences (although featuring Japans patented lewd sense of humor), and then suddenly feature graphic nudity at the drop of a hat. This is also exemplified by the Japanese media that both invests time and effort into the plot while also just being outright pornography from the get-go. To my admittedly biased western perspective, this makes up the majority of Japanese media.
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>This blending of the public art with pornography sickens me in a kind of primeval, prelapsarian way, I don't even know how to describe it. It seriously makes me uneasy.
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>Writing this out because I can't sleep and was just reminded, to my abject disgust, that one "Rent a Girlfriend" exists. Do not correct me if somehow I got details wrong pertaining to that one particular manga, I don't care and I never intend to read such filth. I hope any of this made sense, I am very tired.
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>>2506810>>I think one of the things I despite most about Japanese media, in particular Anime and Manga, is the fact that normal stories can randomly turn into pornographic material for no good reason.>><>>In the West we have (or, perhaps had, as this has diminished somewhat in the modern day) a very clear distinction between media that is public, non-pornographic art and pornographic material which is to be hidden away. Even if a work is very adult, that is to say featuring violence, mature themes, etc., it will likely not go beyond the pale of featuring sexual themes lest it be placed in the category of pornography. This distinction is also made by the fact that pornography in the West makes no attempt at telling a story, having a plot, or anything like that. While I hate pornography and think it has no place in a civilized society, I understand the practical function of this distinction and see it as a very good thing.>><>>This is as opposed to Japanese "art", where an anime or manga can go a very long time without featuring any pornographic material and being largely appropriate for all audiences (although featuring Japans patented lewd sense of humor), and then suddenly feature graphic nudity at the drop of a hat. This is also exemplified by the Japanese media that both invests time and effort into the plot while also just being outright pornography from the get-go. To my admittedly biased western perspective, this makes up the majority of Japanese media.>><>>This blending of the public art with pornography sickens me in a kind of primeval, prelapsarian way, I don't even know how to describe it. It seriously makes me uneasy.>>< >>Writing this out because I can't sleep and was just reminded, to my abject disgust, that one "Rent a Girlfriend" exists. Do not correct me if somehow I got details wrong pertaining to that one particular manga, I don't care and I never intend to read such filth. I hope any of this made sense, I am very tired. β2506815[Quote]
>>2506810What is bro posting βοΈππ
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>>2506808I don't see vending machines selling high school girls' panties in the streets anywhere else in asia
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>>2506816hahaha if many young men had their way it would be like that
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>>2506806I think a part of it is that the U.S. was built upon and developed as a system that presupposes a morally-sound society (I believe Thomas Jefferson said something that confirms this), so when you have countries like Japan who try to emulate Americas government, economy, etc., you get a country which is successful in a worldly sense but utterly morally corrupt.
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>>2506815theres no way this poster is the Indonesian
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Lmao I remember this one time where I saw a 4cuck post of some guy complaining about how Christianity ruined everything because he can't fuck japanese priestesses
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>>2506818america is utterly morally corrupt and is in many ways just like japan. america is a society built on consumption and the rejection of spiritual values
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>>2506818…because they are using a western-style system without the bedrock of western morality. Forgot to add that part.
(I also realize that all this talk of the 'West' is starting to sound like Ben Shapiro so I would like to explicitly state that I mean a Christian morality when I refer to Western values.)
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Pretty sad seeing most stuff in Hollywood becoming gay and brown nowadays
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>>2506821yes the child from this anime is certainly sexualised, also hello turkish ape
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>>2506821Japan isn't Aryan doe
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>>2506825I agree with this. I think the success of America was due to the virtue of her people, not the moral value of her systems if that makes any sense.
>>2506828Didn't read the first set of parenthesis award.
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>>2506828take meds retard anime is literally everywhere in my society in media, this is just some porn only a few women like
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>>2506831And that's a bad thing because
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>>2506831>>2506828Also please go back to 4cuck if you insist on posting smug anime reaction images
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>>2506835I do though.
>>2506839My shithole country is blocking 4chad next week and 4chan doesn't allow VPNs so I'm making myself at home here.
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>>2506842Blud lives in the uk
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>>2506831your ip is not that valuable if you are from pakistan 4cuck
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>>2506842the uk was right to block 4cuck btw, all other porn sites will come next.
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>>25068424chan is going to go down for maintenance so you will feel at home very soon
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>>2506846Porn sites already block the UK. I can just use a VPN in another country like I'm doing right now to get around those blocks.
4chan is unique because they block VPNs from posting which means I won't be able to post there if it gets blocked by the government.
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>>2506852it's called k-on nusoimacaque
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>>2506856I know how it's called doe I'm not dumb
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>>2506852I don't use twitter.
>>2506857Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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>>2506859i'm a suadenese refugee btw
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>>2506854real nusois are buying vpn so that can keep going to blacked and anime 'p
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>>2506863Idk where's Sudan doe
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When I am king of America I will ban anime
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The same subhumans who moralise over fanservice in anime watched American Pie and Euro Trip and loved both. I won't say that jap degeneracy is somehow worse than white/jewish degeneracy. Both are bad.
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>>2506872I'm not Turkish doe
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>>2506873I have watched neither of those, but notice how recent those films are. I'm talking about a traditional Western view of pornography.
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>>2506837wow its almost like you dont live in the west jackass
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>>2506873meds again anime is literally a cult and everywhere in this country, its not the same at all. I cant fucking escape anime if I wanted to, this is why im moving to australia (also to replace yts)
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>>2506881Why are you replacing YouTubers doe?
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>>2506875>Projecting shitskin nonce.its ok maybe when u turn 18 u can move to sugoi japan and not need vpn?
also "nonce" geg thats you
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>>2506878Do you actually think pornography is something modern? What do you think about the many nude paintings of women by white artists? Or that basically every movie from the 1950s onwards includes sex scenes? Or if we broaden the definition, what about novels that include sex scenes?
>>2506854I was posting on 4 with a vpn weeks ago, i just couldnt post images. Did they ban it again?
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>>2506878And i was somewhat wrong because both of those movies were jewish. But there are tons of other examples made by whites.
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>>2506754 (OP)>pornographic materialYou mean edging material? Aka virgin's porn.
>media that is public, non-pornographic art and pornographic material which is to be hidden awayNigga the most "porn" thing an avagre Anmie can do is kiss.
Even henti Anmie which is literal porn cover the dick and pussies so you tell me what's more degenerate.
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>>2506889I'm 20. I'm just not stupid enough to do online ID verification.
Have you seen how many databreaches involving ID verification there's been lately?
>>2506891>I was posting on 4 with a vpn weeks ago, i just couldnt post images. Did they ban it again?You'll occasionally find one that works but officially they're banned unless you pay for a pass.
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>>2506897Don't you ever worry about getting datamine here
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>>2506889An example of avagre shitskin cannot afford to visit Japan doe.
Hell even whites cannot afford it now a days.
>Most brown watch Anmie argument Anmie used to be for the outcasted.
Whether it's white or non whites.
Racist loved it because they didn't include Niggers at all.
Right it now it become a troon thing I agree but it dosn't mean you can't enjoy it.
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>>2506895Not related but I find it funny that this is "Leonardo Da Vinci" geg
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>>2506905Leonardo Da Vinci nameroll is real
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>>2506900I'm using Mullvad + Brave with additional hardening like disabled WebGL.
Jannies don't have shit on me.
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>>2506903ironically im listening to pantera and watching anime right now…
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>>2506891Did you even read my post? I'm not saying pornography didn't ever exist, I'm saying there used to be a hardline separation between pornographic and non-pornographic material in our society.
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>>2506914no, current song is "where you come from"
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>>2506912>like disabled WebGLBrave's fingerprinting resistance is very good out of the box. My only tweaks are disabling WebGL and client hint headers.
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Test
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>>2506891pornography is an industry in the modern day, this comes with the creation of its own culture and breaching into media, also internet made pornography much much more common and accessible, the nature of the material of modern pornography is not like that of the past I think.
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>>2506917Why are you so scared of the staff here
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>>2506908none of this is necessary you cordfag, go get a life
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>>2506878I didnt either i just know that americans and west eurocucks love those.
>>2506913I provided a long list of things in
>>2506891 about western art that crosses the line between porn and art, i dont think youre stupid so this must be you just pretending to be retarded.
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>>2506927not even close, before you had to go to disgusting hole in the wall shops that made you feel like vomiting for existing inside of them to find porn, or atleast hide your playboy subscription from your wife/kids.
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>>2506928I'm not afraid of them in particular. I do this on every website I visit.
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>>2506928because hes a cordmonkey with shit to hide. people who do shit like this are the people who assosiate with austists who are willing to dox randoms.
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>>2506935what? it seems like you are agreeing with me
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>>2506932No, not every painting of a nude woman is pornographic. Movies are a recent art form but we're heavily censored of sexual material until even more recently. "Novels" didn't exist until the printing press, but I doubt there was much smut being printed until relatively recently.
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>>2506937>austists who are willing to dox randoms.Guess what, that's this website's userbase.
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>>2506936wow what websites are those enlighten us
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>>2506941thats because i am
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>>2506937In fairness I can't blame him too much aside from the discord shit
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>>2506943geg they dox people like you on there yes. if you are a user of this site you will not get doxxed, if you are a cordmonkey you are afraid of getting doxed. thanks for the tacit confirmation.
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>>25069444chan
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Linkedin
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Hacker News
Instagram
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Spotify
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>>2506948lies if this where true you would not be afraid of doxxing or getting into leaked, seriously what are you even using your vpn to protect yourself from?
Also hacker news is a reddit site, maybe you are just a computer enthusiast type redditor that is obsessed with this stuff for no reason.
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>>2506905That's the joke doe.
This nigga was a homo and he dreamed to be a woman so they gave his name to a quite foid to carry on his name.
He's probably happy doe.
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>>2506954>what are you even using your vpn to protect yourself from?See
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sure but you have mullvard + other shit, so whats the point schizo
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>>2506959Why do you hate privacy so much?
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>>2506956ehh its not really your fault i couldve been more specific
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>>2506942Do you know when the printing press was invented? I didnt think you were talking about that far back. It just proves my point that you are a hypocrite for calling anime degenerate and saying that western art is not degenerate, when you need to go back 500 years to find "non-degenerate" western art.
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>>2506960people who are obssesed with opsec are usually freaks, and yes you are obviously some kind of freak. if a saw a man filling his house with traps despite the fact no one was coming after him I would also be confused
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>>2506942If not every painting of a nude woman is pornographic, then i dont know whwt you define as pornographic. I believe that any content that a lot of people are likely to masturbate to, especially if it was made with that in mind (not even specifically for that, but if the creator knew that) is pornography.
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>>2506969>if a saw a man filling his house with traps despite the fact no one was coming after him I would also be confusedBut people ARE coming after me. My government hates free speech and puts people in jail over mean facebook comments.
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>>2506969Well youre brown and you piss and shit in the street so i wont expect you to know what privacy is.
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>>2506967lies just stop lying. you know nothing about art I studied art and am a great admirer of western art, you should not attack your own peoples art because of some shitty mass media tv. The alternate turth is that unfortunately east asians have produced not artistic movements of note besides that of the pornographic anime since westernisation, theres a difference for you
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>>2506974didnt some girl just get assaulted and then jailed for calling her attacker a fag over there?
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>>2506973obviously these paintings where not for the purpose of sexual gratification, and no a depiction of the body is not inherrently porographic, depiction of sex for the intention of sexual arousal is pornography
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>>2506979sadly we're not too far off here. you wont go to jail for saying a slur but some nigger in Portland stabbed a guy, stabbing victim called him a nigger, judge ruled that it was ok for him to be stabbed and dropped the charges (not that it matters but he didnt say NIGGER until after being stabbed so the nigger wasnt provoked at all just typical nigger shit)
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I find it funny how we go from hating tranime to talking about privacy
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>>2506983Grim.
>>2506984The seamonkey had a tantrum about me using a VPN.
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>>2506984none of us have had our Ritalin this morning
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>>2506985im chinese actually, and no I was just laughing at you
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Why did this get 4 billion replies
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>>2506992I'm a provocateur
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>>25069924cuck users are here from the shutdown, just wait till tuesday and they will be gone
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Tldr?
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>>2506992nothing brings us together like porn geg
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>nipples in my movies where people are being gored en masse is too far!
not to defend tranime, the kike religions are all OBSESSED with restricting sexuality while secretly being massive gooners (that's why they're obsessed)
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>>2507016It seems like I write in such a way as to where brown people have a very hard time understanding the very basic ideas I am conveying
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>>2507025yes, its english.
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>In the West we have (or, perhaps had, as this has diminished somewhat in the modern day) a very clear distinction between media that is public, non-pornographic art and pornographic material
In the US maybe. Not in France and other southern European countries like Spain or Shitaly. In France pornographic movies could be played in regular movie theaters up until 1975.
A lot of Italian movies from that era are what we consider erotica too. Think about Pasolini, Fellini.
Also french children comics in the 00s had plenty of sexual themes. Do NOT google image search "le petit spirou".