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overrated random noise bullshit, fuck CAN and fuck all of their stupid fans
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can sucks dick, worst band ever
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worst band of all time? yes! fuck can!!!
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>>118031>>117900>>117852>>117779 (OP)>Retard talks to himself with anime girls who are brooms igSad
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Like man you need pussy. I need pussy too at this point tbf. Quit my last job because this guy kept trying to pick problems with me. Trying to not go back to it. Fucking this one girl keeps messaging me but I wanna have a stable job which tbf I was working a while but yk. Idk man I'm almost thirty. Shit gets harder. I'm sure you don't understand that but yeah. Don't waste your life doing this crap haha.
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>>118039what happened with your gf?
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CAN is such dogshit, randumb autistic screeching over stolen black music
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>>118131It's definetely not stollen. Significant chunk of it sounds pretty distinctly German. Alright thst you don't get it though.
>>118101The one I was constantly fighting with over money on and off? We split lol. We'd been split just yk. But yeah yk it wasn't really going anywhere was already fucked.
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>>118101>>118131That's Captain Beefheart lol. CAN is extremely sstructured you're just a gamestop spastic who listens to anime osts. Frank zappa is random autistic quirky screeching same with beefheart and the Beatles. CAN were form and focus. But I'm aware many of you are simply fried.
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>>118138>The one I was constantly fighting with over money on and off? We split lol. We'd been split just yk. But yeah yk it wasn't really going anywhere was already fucked.damn sorry to hear that man, hope you find someone else
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Sing Swan Song extremely structured. Stars and Lines extremely structured. This critique only really works for the second half of tago magl mostly. Paperhouse too is generally pretty well written and original. They did draw on SOME African American Music but less than the British bands did. Mostly Jimi Hendrix,Sly and The Family Stone,maybe 60s and 70s era Temptations. They're not nearly as deeply based in blues as a band like Cream or Ten Years After by any measure. Lot of CAN songs sounded straight up mideval. Some of that but definetely less. They were inspired by jimi for sure though.
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>>118141I've been talking to another girl we've met up a couple times. Idk feels like im too old for the whole dating game haha. An elderly individual of almost thirty. Looks like I maybe found another job aswell. Washing dishes again. I know that's not impressive either dw. But I think I'm done with the car washes.
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>>118141We kept giving it one more night,but ultimately I had to sing my swan song.
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>your autistslop bad but mine good
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>>118221and what point is that exactly? that you're a retard who doesn't understand music theory?
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Big 4 of Krautrock: CAN, NEU!, Faust, Ash Ra Tempel
Top Players: Amon Duul, Cluster, Popol Vuh, Eloy, Kraan, Agitation Free, Embryo
B Tier: Guru Guru, A.R. & Machines, Grobschnitt, Xhol Caravan, Between, Out of Focus, Wallenstein, Et Cetera, German Oak, Brainticket
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>>118337all mogged by beefheart and zappa
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>>118227It's not "autism slop",you're just not sophisticated enough to understand it. CAN were a cultural institution.
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>>118330That you're a retarded manchild that wants to fuck the broom and your weird/creepy frank zappa/beefheart obsession is due to stunted development.
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>>118337Needs DOM,Sand,Holderlin,Witthuser and Westrup,couple others.
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If you can't enjoy it without music theory anyway it's poorly composed lol. If I need to understand thirty pages of text to "enjoy" the song then that means Zappa can't songwrite. Meanwhile CAN very obviously could. I'm fucking hung over bad so take this with a grain of salt.
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>>118424I'm not lol. You're literally just too retarded to get it. CAN are about pacing and mood setting which are concepts Zappa completely lacks. They were masters of presentation and form as much as anything. That's probably why the fanbase overlaps so heavily with Velvet Underground. Zappa lacks a sense of central focus or theme. It's technically impressive but ultimately not very listenable and sort of meaningless. CAN is on the other hand something that touches the corners of the human soul.
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>>118424You're retarded so you can't tell that songs by artist like Zappa and Dreathester lack a natural sense of pacing or flow. You're less human in a sense tbh lol. You probably like that shit they play in animes. CAN are more remembered because they spoke to something HUMAN.
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>>118352Literal Meltdown
>>118337Needs Gunther Shickert aswell. His first album is nuts.
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Samtvogel I think it's called. My brain fucking zoned out there haha. But the 1974 one with the chicken on it.
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>>118430>CAN are more remembered because they spoke to something HUMAN.what? autism? meanwhile zappa's witty and intellectual music is what actually speaks to something human…
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>>118441Literally random retarded yelling and funny meme noise generator music lol.
>intellectual You don't know what that is you probably dress like a toddler. Fucuking nobody listens to that shit anymore.
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>>118453just say that you don't get it lol, imagine someone trying to read moby dick and failing to understand it, then concluding that it's all just random gibberish words. that's what you're doing right now
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>>118455It's funny screeching retard shit. There's nothing you "get" that everybody else wouldn't aswell it's more just that it's obnoxious and sad lol. I do understand you don't have a concept of pacing or whatnot tho.
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>>118455>"random gibberish words"No you're fucking slow so you didn't process what I was saying. I am correctly stating that Zappa mostly appeals to retarded manchildren with its funny spazzy yelling and random quirky switch ups. It's incredibly stitled and forced. But yk. I'm sure you don't experience that haha.
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>>118455>"imagine someone trying to read moby dick and failing to understand it, then concluding that it's all just random gibberish words. that's what you're doing right now"It's literally tard rage incel screeching. You like Zappa because you're mentally challenged. That's like a given.
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Zappa cries in like Chris Chan voice about something then pushes a bunch of random buttons with no sense of melody or placement. That's infinetly more autistic. Barely music. Barely any structure. If Zappa could have put out a decent jam he would have bit it's almost all just shitty novelty crap. That's why you don't meet Zappa Fans in real life settings. They're all in assisted living facilities,mental hospitals,etc but you see them on 4chan because they're allowed to interact here. People with bo sense of pacing or subtlety love Zappa. It's the MLP or Anime of music. Is too disjointed. Poorly written.
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No cohesion no flow no structure meanwhile CAN does this flawlessly. That's why people actually like them.
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>>118457>>118458I wholeheartedly believe that if a little fool like yourself were to try to read some of the more difficult passages of moby dick you'd inevitably conclude that they were just random gibberish.
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Who the fuck hasn't read Mobby Dick too? That's like some shit you read in middleschool haha. Probably you I'm guessing?
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>>118460your problem is that you don't understand that the jarring pacing in SOME of zappa's music is 100% intentional and actually enhances the music to those with an open mind
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>>118510didn't you say your favorite composer is Stauckhaussen?
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>>118510what's the name of the book they sail on in Mobby Dick?
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>>118525>>118526Uh huh. No. Alright.
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>>118524No I understand it it's just spazzy and quirk chungus. I understand it and think you're actively retarded for pretending to enjoy that aspect and that you probably smell like fucking ass. I think I might understand why that appeals to you as I've said many times before lol.
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>>118524It makes sense because you're a tacky retard who tries too hard but it's not the same thing as genuine depth lol. Zappa Music is very shallow and superficial. It lacks depth. Lacks emotional development which many of you probably do aswell.
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>>118550there is genuine depth though, it's quite intellectual actually
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>no it doesn't have any depth
<yes it does
Get someone who actually understands music in here
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>>118577>>118552Yeah this. It has academic depth which can be put into literal metrics bur it doesn't breathe or have the emotive quality that CAN does. I understand you're likely somehow intellectually disabled and that pretending to get enjoyment out of shit like Zappa and Dreamt heater makes you feel better about yourself though. It still lacks genuine cohesion though.
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>>118577Might not be .music theory persay but Zappa doesn't allow sequences to fully play out in the way. It's constantly interrupting for the sake of being "quirky". Constantly tripping over itself.
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>>118577In less words:I understand the lack (let's be real it's a lack) of pacing is supposedly intentional (given how much of Zappas work is like this color me skeptical but I was already well aware that was the supposed premise) I just don't like it.
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Notice how fucking quiet it's been the last little while since I said that haha. Don't tell me this guy was doing something with his life either we know that's not true. He'd normally be yipping way harder. But yeah zappas "music" was an abhorrent gargled mess. Tells me a lot when somebody pretends to like it. CAN just flow naturally dame with The VU same with Jimi same with a lot of other bands from that period. Zappa lacked a solid feeling of ballance or placement.
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>>118589it's not a lack of pacing, it's a creative approach to pacing
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>>118585sometimes having something end abruptly, unresolved is more interesting and makes for better music
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>>118577suck my dick piece of shit
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>>118631>>118632>>118633Nah you don't have the level I'd finesse for that haha
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>>118632If it wasn't consistently stumbling over itself to do it and it actually worked in context sure.
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>>118676it does work in the context though, it works really well in fact
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>>118702You're not really explaining this you're just going "nuh uh" like a retard. It doesn't. Look at how Inca Roads interrupts itself. You ant to pretend it works in some kind 1of desperate bud to impress people but it just doesn't. CAN and Magma actually did on the other hand and Funkadelic and Soft Machine. Zappa just feels convoluted and random to me. I'm sorry. Maybe that's your opinion. I think Lou Reed and John Cale aswell as Hendrix aswell as Clapton were simply better musicians. It might have been daring for the time but it was never really actualized in a way which fully worked. Songs like inca roads would flow more organically and feel more emotionally powerful without the constant interrupting. It might be advanced from a music theory standpoint but hardly crestes a meaningful nor enjoyable experience.
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>>118702It feels s1tilted nd inorganic. Like lacks any real direction ND feels super artificial to my ears.
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>>118702Hike I'm not do1ubting it's more technically impressive t1han what t1he vu did but it sounds like absolute ass. The Mothers of Invention being this aimless sober kinda doesn't make their case ei1ther
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Zappa was the original plebbitor memelord
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>>118706It interrupts itself as a sort of rebellion against music or something retarded like that. I sincerely believe Zappa was a great musician and could create good music when he wanted to, maybe if he wasn't so obsessed with being different he would have made more enjoyable pieces.
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>>118706fuck off piece of shti!!!
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>>118708>>118706like I've been saying, you probably couldn't handle the complexity of Mobby Dick lol
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>>118716>>118724Lol you ape back the same shit again and again like the absolute retard you are.
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>>118711Yeah and it doesn't work in practice.
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>>118711But yeah I agree I guess. Technically proficient had potential. Maybe wasn't able to fit his ideas together in an actual overarching structure well.
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>>118861>>118862>>118863tell us again how you'd be filtered by Mobby Dick
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>>118876Bro everybody's read that they mack you read that in like middle school. Of all the things you could chose to make yourself special the book where the guy shoots the whale with the harpoon is hardly one of them. But I understand you're a delusional manchild,sure.
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>>118877explain mobby dick then
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fuck Can!!!!
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>>118879It's an adventure book for kis about a dude trying to kill a whale with a harpoon gun. Would you like me to explain warrior cats aswell?
>>118992Haha ok. It's not for people like you which is why the triggering happened. Take care.
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>>119121what does the whale symbolize?
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Lil bro doesn't understand the subtext of Mobby Dick, no wonder he can't into Zappa, Dream Theater, Homestar Runner, Chainsaw Man etc
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>>119134>>119141>Lil bro doesn't understand the subtext of Mobby Dick, no wonder he can't into Zappa, Dream Theater, Homestar Runner, Chainsaw Man etcYou're mentally challenged. I don't really have to prove shit to you.
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>>119233explain the themes of mobby dick and/or homestar runner then
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>>119234The only people who watch that are other retarded people like you. You like it because you're fucking sped. The themes are le quirky chungus wish fulfilment/emotional distraction and waifu bait. Moby Dick idfk I read that in like middleschool tbh. It's not a book for grown men haha. I was listening to blood meridian as an audio book but didn't finish it. I mostly listen to music. But I might listen to some more of blood meridian today. I read part of Factotum a couple years back. Liked that one a lot.
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Literally the home star runner obsession is a dead giveaway that you're a fucking downie or some shit. You're talking about a book most people read in middle school haha. Might as well have asked me what the themes of hairy potter are. Blood Meridian is good though. Main theme seems to be the horrors of war. But I'm yk idfk. I have real life concerns unlike you so I can't just be consooming media 24/7 as much. Probably why you feel forced to pretend to enjoy Dreamtheater and stuff.
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Factotum which I didn't get to the end of tbh and then Blood Meridian. Factotum I related to a lot though that's basically my life lol. Book started fucking falling apart though. I lifted a little bit too. Interacting with you made me feel like doing that haha.
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When was the last time you fucking went outside? How about that haha. Fucking retard.
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>>119240when I went to work today dumbass
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>>119252Never happened lol
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>>119270fuckin piss off
>>119257nice try
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>>119271It's just a factual statement. You've never had a job. You have no idea what the real world economy is like. It's "nice try" because I'm right lol. Ctfu.
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>>119306I do have a job asswipe, the fact that I'm an adult who has real life experiences is the think that makes it possible for me to understand work like Zappa, Beefheart, Chainsaw Man, Mobby Dick etc., you being filtered by these art projects seems to suggest that you don't have a job/life on the other hand
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>>119321Nah. Skepticism warranted. I dont think you do. Random word salad doesn't change this. The themes of Frank Zappa are a mentally challenged man jacking himself off in public. That's basically what I see and hear when I look at frank skibbidi.
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>>119321>"you being filtered by these art projects seems to suggest that you don't have a job/life on the other hand"Wouldn't call those art lol
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>>119394that's because you don't get it
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>>119399Everybody "gets it". I explained your yard rage incelcore media better than you could lol. Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart were very sad very clearly mentally disabled men who masturbated mire or less in more or less public spaces. Presumably not unlike you do.
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>>119430pathetic cop out lol. lil bro knows he's too stupid to understand art so now he's pretending he doesn't care. ladies and gentlemen, I regret to inform you of this epic fail
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>>119393Tbh shit like Joes Garage despite being super immature does have some interesting themes about free will and stuff
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>>119466That you just keep going is curious. No that would be the normal/sane perspective. Is that you're a incel reddit retard and this is shit you like for attention. You cant appreciate CAN because they're refined. They're nuanced. Zappa is not.
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>>119466>of this epic failWay to make me really take you seriously. Youre too tacky to get it haha.
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I freely admit to liking some 70s prog though just not 90s prog and nothing by Frank Zappa. Mostly Magma,ELP,Island,Pocchio dal Pozzo,Yezda Urfa,and Mirthrandir.
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Ill balletido de bronze or whatever too haha. I like RUSH also. None of these bands were quite as skibbidi or random as Zappa though although prog as a whole in its classic form definetely suffered from that too. But I like Prog Rock. Frank Zappa just isn't good. Gentle Giant and Van Der Graaft Generator and Rush and Perrigeo are also all better bands and Musseo Rosenbach and the first two soft machine albums. The b Beatles and grateful dead used odd time signatures aswell an were both way bigger than Zappa. I hate the Beatles aswell but at least they understood basic song structures.
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>>119491what's nuanced about adding autistic screeching to stolen black music?
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I just think Lou Reed even if he hated prog rock was a better musician than Zappa. I'm sorry. It's more cohesive.
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>>119496lou reed was just a shitty bob dylan ripoff with "subversive" aesthetics. nowhere close to being on zappa's level
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>>119495Ad hominem. Also you cleay haven't listened to much of them if you really consider CAN to be "stollen black music" and nothing else. I will give you that Suzakis vocal prefformances aren't for everybody but they're very human,rootsy,and soulful. It's it's like supposed to be like John Fogghearty or Steppenwolf or even southern rock type "gruff" vocals but founded more on east Asian music. Maybe also opera or some other more traditional German types or some other eurofolk. CAN did draw on African American Music though but mostly in in terms of rhythmic structure and some more abstract ideas about presentation that they picked up from soul music. It's mostly just Sly and The Family Stone and Hendrix. And CAN definitely don't 1 to 1 sound like black bands from the USA at that time. They just wanted to play homage to the bands that got them interested in the psychedelic genre. If it actually sounded like black music from that time sure but it sounds like either mideval German shit or classical music but played on a funk beat mostly. If you can name a sly and the family atone song which actually has guitar sections like mushroomhead does go ahead.
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>>119497He was far more cohesive and much further sighted. His work has aged much better.
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>>119495You would have hated the germa operahouses in the 1800s. You would have been the guy who actually hated Richard Wagner. You just lack taste and know nothing.
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>>119499it still isn't nuanced, it's just a bunch of different bad ideas haphazardly thrown together. that's the true essence of CAN'T, they most likely got it from the random noise composers they admired like Stauckhausen.
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>>119501Wagner sucked dick though, one of the most reddit composers in human history
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>>119500he was more cohesive because he had one idea (steal from bob dylan but make it edgier)
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>>119502I mean they used extremely nonconventional song structures and shit it kinda is lol. Different tones. They also actively helped establish the study of world music in just like a generalized sense aswell as helping preserve both German folk and art music traditions which may have died with funny mustache man otherwise. They helped formulate the melodic structure used in genres such as trance. Predicted radio head and basically all post rock and then also inspired the red hot chilli peppers somehow. Their influence is far greater than Zappas and their song writing was also much more sophisticated. CANs music was all about creating a mood. A flow. This is something that Zappa even for a prog rocker was not especially good at which is why I find much of his work to be tacky and jarring.
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>>119504There's definetely some ideas from Jewish folk music there ngl also pop from that time. So we're love and the Beatles and Hendrix though. Everybody was ripping off Dylan initially. Bob Dylan+Surf Rock+Buffulo Springfield maybe.
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>>119236Moby Dick is the most important book on this subject and why is the author so critical to his book in this context of his book is a great example for how the book was created by a young woman and the book was a very good book and i am very happy with the author to know the author is very happy to read this and the author has been a very happy and happy author i hope this is the book of truth that you read in the books of this author book is a very important read for the readers of the books of book who have been in this world and the author of books for a while now to be sure and the authors and authors and readers to know what is a book
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>>119503You only say that because of ww2 and 80s action films. He was pretty good for his time. Not somebody I actively listen to though. More interested in 19th century art composers. I do like him though. And Haydn.
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>>119507I don't think this is remotely relevant to the conversation at hand and it's a action book most people read when they're like 11 dude. You might just be retarded on cap.
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>>119505Zappa's music touches one thing at once with his voice acting on his guitar in his own song that is so much better and the sound of the music makes me think about the music i like more and the sound is just as much of an influence as i do with my music taste. Compare this to CAN whose work fails and how it was made and why it's a great album to me to hear in the future but it's a good song for the time period to listen and listen and listen in to a good time to be a good person
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>>119504Bob Dyaln wasn't doing shit like Black Angels Death Song or Heroin or Mr.Rain either. Maybe Walk Alone but even that is a stretch. For the time they came out that was pretty heavy. I think they shifted the dynamics of music much more than Zappa. Same with CAN. But yk that's just me.
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>>119508Waugener's music was always about masturbating over childish fantasies of epicness and what have you, it was reddit then and it's reddit now
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>>119510I didn't understand any of that that was a bunch of garbled nonsense. Seek help.
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>>119513that's because you're retarded and an idiot you stipid little boy you have to go back and look for the right person and then go to bed i will tell him to come back and sleep in my room for you to wake me and i can sleep on my own i am so sorry i will never understand you have no right to sleep with me and you will be the only one that can sleep in your own room
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>>119512Is it reddit to not deny the subconscious urges and desires that exist deep within man? The urge to kill? The urge to eat? To run? Is that truly this edgy when we know it lies within the hearts of us all? These are also themes I'd unironically say CAN hits on lol. Something ethereal about that.
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>>119514That sounds like you're having a meltdown lol. No I think you just spewed a bunch of garbled nonsense. If anybodies retarded it's almost certainly you.
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>>119515baseless pseudoscientific essentialist nonsense. no wonder you like right wing propaganda music like Waugener lol
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>>119517I'm really high dude. I won't even lie. But no I think it touches something primal within mankind I really do.
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>>119515you probably like jourdan pietersen lol
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>>119517I'm not a super big Wagner fan nor particularly conservative. I just think there's something primal about his work that's deeply appealing. Which I think CAN has aswell. It's dire. It feels important. Something Frank Zappa universally lacked.
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>>119519I thought it was spelled Peterson tbh.
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>>119519Yeah I just checked and that's not how you spell it. Nice attempt to sound smart ig. You watch Chainsaw Man lol. That would be you. You're the retarded smelly edge lord who would listen to that. I have taste. I'm not you. Fuc you lol.
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Anyway CAN weren't right wing at all so irrelevant. They were extremely German and verymuch classically trained but I just like the fucking tension. Basically all the German bands were better than Zappa in this sense or most of the British bands were save for maybe pretty things arzachel and cream I guess. Maybe Ten Years After. Idefk who I was saying. I'm listening to GILA right now. Think I might have listened to CAN yesterday or some shit. Had the chamber brothers playing earlier and magma I think maybe some dead.
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CAN bleed emotion while Zappa and Dreamtheater made soulless slop for bugmen with tech security jobs. CAN felt more human.
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They're gritty haha. Maybe you can't handle tho.
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>>119522>>119523>>119524more pseud bullshit lol. you have no idea what you talking bout but you are so funny lol and you know that right there i know it was the other day when you were saying you had a good day but i don't think so you just don't have a bad night or a good day or anything else i guess lol i don't think so i guess i am not a bad day for me lol i am a bad day lol i am not the same one for the same people i am the only person that i am.
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>>119495Holy shit, an actual soyboy posting on the sharty
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>>119538You're literally posting on a website that makes fun of people like you lol
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>>119539yeah, and so what? do you need your diaper changed or something?
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>>119541No, it's just funny
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>>119537Hating CAN is incredibly spy as pretentious as they were. You gotta admit some of those riffs are FUCJING UNFORGIVING. Especially for The Early 1970s but even by today's standards a song like Mushroomhead or Tango Whiskeyman is genuinely brutal. I love Hendrix and like Psych Era Temptations which would be the black music they were "stealing from",but I think CAN sounds very different. You can hear the folk,mideval,and classical elements which are extremely German and ofc damos vocal techniques were in fact very nonconventional for the time. But it's brutal as fuck. Just nice heavy menacing big overpowering riffs. Just those huge walls of guitar noise you can really sink your teeth into.
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*soy
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>>119526Meltdown. CAN is brutal as fuck. No intellectuality needed to appreciate some of the most based instrumentals ever recorded. It's heavy yet it flows.
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I've been listening to The Dead more recently though tbqh.
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>>119577what the fuck are you talking about? I'm not even gonna talk about how reddit it is to describe a heckin riff as frickin "unforgiving", on what planet do CAN's shitty riffs warrant that description? they literally made easy listening music lol
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Magma too tbh. Less Gentle Giant though. Some Nico and some WCEPAB lol. Sucks to suck though. If I was mentally retarded and had never smoked weed or drank or had a job before I'd probably like Homestuck and Dreamtheater too.
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>>119582Lol you're literally having a meltdown dude. There's something seriously wrong with you haha. You're such a bitch too. No wonder you hate CAN. I guess not everybody is sophisticated enough hahaha.
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>>119583I get drunk all of the time asshole! and I HATE CAN
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>>119584FUCK YOU SOYOU SUFCKING PIECE O F SHIT REATRED i FUCKING HAT EHYOU SO FUJCKING MUSCH OH JMY GO DFUCKING KILL YOURSELF NOW
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>>119582You're too retarded so you can't understand the concept. You're not aware of it but you're probably literally like mentally challenged. CAN riffs are based. Shits fucking sublime. But you are fucking slow and Zappa holds somebody like you ares attention span over there. Khid mad retaded.
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>>119585Literally throwing a fit. Just like how zappas "music" is less music than it is obnoxious fit throwing. RIP Zappa. You would have loved Homestar Runner aswell I'm sure.
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>You're too retarded so you can't understand the concept
the point you keep repeating is that CAN's shitty music touches on something ""primal"" or whatever the fuck that's felt by every human being. Wouldn't I as a human being implicitly understand "the concept"? You said yourself there's no intellectuality needed…
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>>119585This is literally what a spastic meltdown looks like. No wonder bro likes dreamtheater haha.
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>>119589Bro you just had a full on me5ldown and you also listen to frank Zappa who had zero concept of continuity,tone,or melody to begin with lol. That's why all his music is retarded novelty dogshit.
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>>119589But yes I literally view you as mentally challenged. You just threw a fit. Fuck off back to gamestop where you belong.
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>>119591>who had zero concept of continuity,tone,or melody to begin withhis music is the product of rigorously studying these things actually
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>>119592The point is that according to your pseudoscientific mystical bullshit claims even a mentally challenged person would like CAN, and yet I don't
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>>119594>>119593You literally just bad an all caps meltdown five seconds ago. You are filled with tard rage. That is why you like Frank Zappa. You relate to him because you're also an angry retard with zero self control or foresight. You hate CAN *partially not entirely but partially) because it's introspective and introspection scares you. Same with The Velvet Underground. That's because you're empty inside.
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>>119595That's neither here nor there. Actually address my point or GTFO
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>>119594>>119593>pseudoscìentificYou're just throwing put random words. Zappas music is psuedoscientific if anything. Works in theory but completely dysfunctional in practice. But you're retarded and it makes you Clap like a seal. You're the person it's meant for for sure and dreamtheater. That type of prog exists to make people like you feel better about themselves whereas a band like gentle giant magma camel or can or Amon duul ii exist to challenge and excite.
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>>119596Your point was just a spastic meltdown with random blabbering. Get some fucking pussy in your life or btfo.
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>>119597>>119598pathetic cop out lol. lil bro knows he can't refute my points lmaooo
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>>119594Oh yeah. Thanks for admitting you're mentally challenged aswell. No a perso who's a full person person I can sit and have a conversation with. So not you haha. I wasn't counting you as a dude.
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>>119599Nah it's true anyway I explained it it's because I view you as barely human. As ableist as ii might be when you run into someone who gets this uppity about frank Zappa and dreamtheater it's very hard not to.
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>>119600you're missing the point here buddy
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>>119602You don't have a point haha. Stop saying buddy you're not a Canadian you're a retard who's never had a job. You've never worked a day in your life fuck off back to your mom's basement. I don't doubt you don't get it "buddy" you probably don't get how to shower either.
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>>119602Why not you go masterbate yo panty stocking and garterbelt,watch Jordan peterson,and play with your toys?
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>>119603Yes I do, you claimed CAN taps into something existing in the soul of every human being and therefore implying anyone should be able to like it, yet shortly after you claimed that I don't understand the "concept" when, like I said, the "concept" is something which according to you should be implicitly understood by everyone.
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>>119605All these words for "I'm angry because I've never been laid and I'm having a meltdown because you attacked my random screeching special big boy anime music".
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>>119605>"Wahhh wahhh I'm a sad retard with no friends and I'm enraged because you said my funny meme songs made by a mentally challenged man aren't as good as this classical composers waahhhhhh"Why am I supposed to answer this seriously?
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>>119606>my random screeching special big boy anime musicyou just described CAN lol
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>>119617Guy who's clearly too challenged to form coherent thoughts when angry saying this. Spend more time outdoors and around other people. You'll stop pretending to like skibbidi meme screeching. You're in a phase everybody else grew put of some point in adulthood.
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Why not you film yourself shitting yourself and knocking over chairs at your local hobby shop? That will prove that CAN is gay and that I'm an unepic jorden Petershien Lobstercel probably.
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Bros just mad he's a gnat instead of a lobster. You need bitches STAT.
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>>119621This is literally a meltdown lol
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I hate Jordan Peterson because I'm a libtard you hate him because you're a bitch and he asked you to clean your room lol.
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>>119625Now draw the tago mago guy having sex with Fiona from shrek
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>>119626you seem to agree with Jourden Pietersen on most things though
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>>119627You just had a retarded meltdown and now you're literally talking like Jordan Petierstalin himself haha. It's the best argument in the world man fucking look at you. You can't explain why Zappas so good. You like him despite his music being ass because you're a pathetic fuck up who relates to him.
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>>119629I don't think so no. I think you're just a spastic and don't really understand what most people are thinking. You're using your weirdo incel metrics. I'm not you. I've had actual jobs.
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>>119630>You can't explain why Zappas so good.Yes I can and I have multiple times, whereas you default to mystical bullshit whenever I ask you to defend CAN's shitty music
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>>119632Ita literally spastic meltdown noises.
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>>119633Not even remotely true. Stop being intellectually dishonest
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>>119632No melody no pacing no sense of progression and barely any form. So it appeals to your tard rage sensibilities. Same way you're probably waiting to meet an anime charecter you "like" frank zappas "music",but the rest of the world isn't going to indulge that. You probably play dating Sims lol.
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>>119634Very clearly extremely true. You can't point to him doing it well or consistently so your doing ad hominem bullshit.
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>>119632You haven't. You said because it'd le factually correct math or whatever. You're sped and he makes you feel less retarded. CAN made fucking art. Not the same thing.
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Go bash your head into the ground and make high pitched wailing noises. If you were a functional human being you wouldn't be talking about dreamthester lol.
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>>119645fuck you asshole. sex tape.
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>>119646>sex tapeWhat the fuck does that even mean? Is this just your idea of how "cool people" talk?
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>>119648you don't know what a sex tape is? you must be in middle school lmao
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>>119650>>119649Everybody knows what a sex tape is. That's not what that meant.
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>>119649>>119650More that you think randomly saying "sex tape" is cool or edgy as a grown man. Very retard coded.
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>>119654This is literally a spastic meltdown
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>>119657That you think randomly shouting sex tape as a grown man is funny though. That's a good sign your intellectually disabled ngl.
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>>119659lol he stopped replying after being BTFO'd. pathetic. maybe he'll finally admit that Zappa is leagues better than CAN'T
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>>119660>>119657That you think randomly shouting sex tape as a grown man is funny though. That's a good sign your intellectually disabled ngl.
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>>119660You have retard speech patterns too.
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>>119662>>119661doesn't disprove any of my points lol. just admit you got owned and move on
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>>119663You had a really weird meltdown. Not really much to admit. I'm right and you like Zappa because you're a retard. The fact you're still going would be impressive if it wasn't so sad. Bros literally crying until I tell him he "won" something. Yeah I can tell what type of dude you are haha.
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Who remember Sex Tape? Been awfully fucking quiet haha. Don't pretend you were busy now.
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I love how you just spam insults and can't come up w8th an actual reason that doesn't just sound fucking deranged. Zappa is truly the hazbin hotel of music lol.
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It's Jordan Peterson or random string of slurs prettymuch. But I'm guessing a guy like how you are is morelikely to enjoy something le random and funny like Zappa than something stayed and calculated like CAN. Checks out/makes sense. I'm guessing you hate southern rock aswell?
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>>119679>>119678Except I'm clearly smarter than you are bwahaha. You can barely form a coherent thought. It's all just crying. Here's a real song. Maybe it will help you understand how songs work.
https://youtu.be/bs9kopCP8uM?si=gMxI5JQ-gu5mRyF_ β119683[Quote]
*naked
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>>119681>600 viewsno one is listening to that lil bro
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>>119685I don't even remember what the fucj I posted. Doesn't negate that you're a bitch and zappas retarded though. (It's a quicksilver messenger service jam but if you know the view count I can assume you already saw that)
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>>119685Also like it's a live recording from a prettymuch jam band. Ofc it's under 1000. If it's not one of their more popular jams. They had singles hits in the 60s though. More than Zappa did.
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If you were less of a gooner incel the weird cringe Zappa obsession would probably go away lol.
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This thread is so shit man
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I'm smoking Bubba hoe
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>>119697Is that a strand of Marijuana or does that mean like meth or Crack? Don't think I've heard about Bubba before.
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>>119697I'm smoking straight za though. So I feel you. Getting fucking blasted haha.
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Anyone else fuck with these guys? Le Stelle Di Mario Schifano?
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>>117779 (OP)Marge, what happened in this thread, this has more activity than any other /mtv/ thread
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>>119702The annΜon had a meltdown and started posting in all caps because I called him a bitch.
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>>119702Literally that Zappa fans are manchildren and can't have a normal conversation.
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>>119705>>119704not what happened, as I recall you had a meltdown because I disproved all of your arguments
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>>119690>They had singles hits in the 60s though. More than Zappa did.and yet no one remembers them whereas ZAPPA is a legend
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>>119707Nobody remembers Zappa other than obeese retards on 4chan who don't contribute to society. Substantially more people remember quicksilver probably.
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>>119708not even remotely true, just compare their respective RYM numbers
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>>119706No you started screeching and keybashing lol. You didn't make any arguments. Your idea of an argument is just fit throwing haha.
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>>119710I made plenty of arguments jackass, you just didn't understand them because you have a limited vocabulary
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>>119711go fuck yourself. sex tape.
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>>119715Holy shit bro had a spastic meltdown and blocked it before it even loaded haha. So like I said Zappa fans are mentally challenged. You like it because you relate to him. CAN were like real musicians moreso. You hate them because you're a spastic.
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>>119717Bros having a second to third tard mask meltdown haha. Love to see it.
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Quicksilver Messenger Service mog. Gonna listen to a jam by them now. Take care hahaha.
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>>119714>>119716>>119720>>119719>>119718zero arguments made, embarrassing really
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>>119721You're having a spastic meltdown.
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>>119721I don't need to argue with you tarding out and bashing your keyboard lol. You belong in a mental facility.
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>>119723except none of those posts were by me, you probably made them to make it seem like you're winning lol
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>>119724I don't think you have any friends so I don't really believe that. Maybe you posted from two separate servers? Idk haha. Anyway the complete lack of pacing nor prsensation is my main complaint with Zappa. CAN flow naturally. QMS do magma does for the most part. Zappa doesn't. The total lack of melody or direction in much of his work is also grating. These things don't bother you because you are mentally mentally retarded as demonstrated by your earlier behavior. Instead of pretending to enjoy this crap maybe you should seek treatment for that.
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>>119724You literally have no one anyway though so we both know that isn't even true lol. Good luck ig.
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>>119726you don't even understand chainsaw man lol. I wouldn't expect you to understand zappa or dream theater
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I'm probably the closest thing you have to a friend even. Only person willing to interact with you nor give you attention. But I'm sure you'll never admit that. You don't have any real friends. So it was in fact you having a meltdown and shitting yourself yeah.
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>>119728Dreamtheater has all the charecter of a funko pop which is about as much as you are able to handle. Your actions confirm everything I already thought about dreamtheaters fanbase lol. You probably need help tying your shoes.
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>>119728You're just throwing together random phrases now. You don't even understand tiktok memes. See? Anybody can say crap like that. Doesn't change that you're retarded and should have somebody wiping your ass for you. I sincerely hope you don't actually have a job. But that seems so unlikely that my concern is probably misplaced. There's no way you're a fully functional grown man who acts like this.
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Chainsaw Man is about being a gooner and wanting to shoot up the school because women won't have sex with you whereas Zappa is for having a retarded fit of rage and randomly masturbating in the trader Joe's parking lot at 40.
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Bros a bitch. Still an impeccable sense of melody on songs like Sing Swan Song and Paper house. Yet to disprove this. CAN may have been pretentious but they could actually write songs. Zappa couldn't. Dreamtheater barely can.
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Bitch Tit's Replica and The Incredible Meltdown Band just weren't capable of composing anything meaningful. Not rocket science why they're basically forgotten. But you're too braindead to notice. I could bang pots and pans together while screeching put Zappas face on it pretend it was a posthumous release and you'd probably gobble it up. You'll buy anything.
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What are the chances that everything here is just one schizo?
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>>119755This, it happens in any thread dedicated to Zappa
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>>119761>>119755>What are the chances that everything here is just one schizo?Seething with meme words because I didn't miss out on life as hard as you did.
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>>119768You literally do drugs geg
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Jimbo Peterstalin
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>>119796>>119714>>119716>>119796>>119796Imagine being this mentally challenged and enraged all the time and completely unaware about it a the same time. That's gotta be torture lol. No wonder you're a virgin.
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>>119810fuck you retard. since you're so obsessed with my sex life I'll have you know I'm literally talking to a girl on discord right now and am probably gonna fly her out soon
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Bro bragging about finding a discord kitten now haha.
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>>119816The far and between moments when Seth Green did something funny.
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>>119825Is that one of your favorite hentai artists or something? Probably AI lol. Type of dweeby retarded tile counter actually listening to Frank Zappa ig.
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Classic rock Chad's stay mogging the fuck out of broom fuckers lol. Hasbinstucktell Rizzler Boys can't compete.
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Straight up forgot what that show was called lol. Homestar Runner? Morelike Homestar Tech Support. Homestar Gooner lol.
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>>119820she's sent me nudes before so I have collateral anyways, besides she told me she really likes me multiple times dude. I'm buying the tickets right now, she's even willing to sit through a 15 hour flight from fucking south america just to be with me
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>>119827>Seth Green<favorite hentai artists How can you be so terminal online yet so out of touch? Out of all of your deadbrain word salads this one is funny and that's because you got felted.
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>>119836>>119838Lmao ok. So anyway liking CAN is normal. Cool even. Unlike whatever the fuck you're talking about lol. CAN they sell those albums at Newberry comics really not that obscure. You're just a bit stupid so you don't like them.
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>>119838What exactly are you in your mind proving by doing this and what do you think it proves to me?
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It's some guy who was in marvel movies Holly shit haha. Makes sense.
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>>119863Interesting haha. Lmk how that works out for you.
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>>119863It's giving intellectual disability was what I was gonna get too though. Also kinda giving 40 year old virgin.
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>>119868just admit you lost the argument and move on man
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>>119870I didn't though. Also what argument? You had a spastic meltdown. I correctly pointed out that zappas "music" is wildly directitonless,formless,and awkward because it is. I said it didn't flow naturally because it does and that CAN were better because they are. Then you had a spastic meltdown because you're an incel. Not sure how much else there is too it "man" lol.
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If you're really this self unaware it wouldn't surprise me though. Not like fans of tard rage replica are functional human beings. You in fact don't meet them going door to door haha. They don't answer the door. They would certainly be home all hours though.
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Imagine being both so unhinged and mentally challenged that you think this proved anything other than that you're a massive virgin and probably shouldn't be allowed outside unless somebody is accompanied.
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>>119959>>119958>>119957I made the point that CAN are objectively shit which you still haven't been able to prove, their music is random screeching pasted over stolen music and random noise, totally lacking the depth of beefheart, zappa, dream theater etc
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>>119975That's not a point that's just you seething lol. You can't explain why. They trigger you because they require comprehension and you're an obn0xious retard who needs constant stimulation thrown in heir faces. Hence why you like frank Zappa despite his very concrete lack of songwriting lack of flow lack of momentum etc. Don't expect you toget it though. But CAN flow perfectly. That's probably their greatest strength. Everybody else disagrees haha. But feel free to tell everyone how retarded you are I guess. Lmk how your life works out.
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>>119975>Beefheart and Frank Zappa not being random noise when you could take somebodies retarded cousin give them a drum and hav rhe same result
>meanwhile CAN complex melodies classical insturmation etc Yeah ok haha.
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>>119975Your just repeating my statements back to me acting like you understand them. What Zappa songs do you like? Probably The Muffin Man and Inca Roads like the other screeching discord retards?
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>>119994
>>Beefheart and Frank Zappa not being random noise when you could take somebodies retarded cousin give them a drum and hav rhe same result>>meanwhile CAN complex melodies classical insturmation etc you're getting them confused lol. zappa and beefheart's music was painstakingly composed, unlike CAN's improvised random noise bullshit
>>119995>What Zappa songs do you like? Dog Breath in the Year of the Plague is my favorite
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just listen to the velvet underground you fucking niggers they btfo any of these other 60s experimental bands
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>>119997>Frank Zappa wrote a song about not brushing his teethMake it make less sense
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>>120000I like them aswell.
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>>119997>"you're getting them confused lol. zappa and beefheart's music was painstakingly composed, unlike CAN's improvised random noise bullshit"Literally a bunch of retards screeching and shitting themselves versus actual classical composers lol. The no u thing doesn't work. Beefheart and Zappas Music sound like Trout Mask Replica and We're only in it for the money respectively. The average CAN so g sounds like sing swan song stars and lines or paper house meanwhile. Just projecting your own not so misplaced insecurities because that accurately describes you.
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>>119997>Trout Mask Replica>Mirror Man Sessions >Not "randomized nosie bullshit" intended for "autists"
>CAN>actual songwriting >you have to extremely selectively only listen to the second half of tago mago and nothing else to see this>your entire argument hinges on saying "nuh uh" and having a spastic meltdown when I tell you to listen to it >every song Zappa wrote with remote consistency was a shitty generic doo wop novelty song Haha ok
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Imagine how obeese Dreamtheater Annon must be.
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>>120008the rest of tago mago is boomer psych rock bullshit and stolen black music. it's third rate at best
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>>117779 (OP)I've never watched Homestar, did I miss out?
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>>>120008 (You)
>the rest of tago mago is boomer psych rock bullshit and stolen black music. it's third rate at best
This would imply that it's in fact fairly structured lol. I disagree that it's stollen black music. At least not any moreso than American bands. The relationship to said "black music" is mostly fairly abstract little compositional ideas. Things taken from sly and the family stone and jimi Hendrix especially maybe some lats 60s Temptations or early funkadelic. Like all stuff you'd think of as psych or rock anyway. The overarching melodic structures and the temperament and overall soundscape is pretty clearly German. Short of being like a explicitly racist band or doing mideval reenactment or just doing ompah. They're clearly not trying to sound like black artists. Honestly less so than us bands from that time. If you just mean some rhythmic elements from funk or soul music I'll agree to that though. I think it draws on it for inspiration. But stollen is a stretch. It's a lot more original than the rolling stones or something was. It's less inspired by African American music beyond soul and funk than the doors and can also pretty clearly drew on classical music and German Middeval Stuff aswell. If you wanted to say it was culturally appropriation whatever maybe but it was actually pretty forward thinking musically for that period. I'd say like it depends though. They got more fussioney and frankly less original in the late 70s. I'm sure you don't care for that level of detail though. Everything after Soon over Bulma is basically unlistenable to me.
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>>120030Idk why it didn't tag guess I entered it wrong. I'm actually fucking fried right now like I'm really really really fucking high. But uhhhhhhh yeah basically what I just said up there. I think they mostly just drew on Sly Stone and Jimi Hendrix was what it was. They weren't like doing full blues jams like even the dead did occasionally. It borrows a couple ideas from African American music but like pretty minimal ones mostly filtered through psych. Having a couple parts that sound a little bit like late 60s Temptations or something when the melody still uses like German melodic structure prettymuch isn't exactly blackface. It's yk pretty definetely for the time pretty distinctly German.
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>>120030CAN were relatively respectful with that.The Lads were in post naxi Germany for the time and the place they were pretty forward thinking and culturally sensitive. Does it take SOME elements from funk yeah but the final product is pretty obviously German and sounds very distinct from like shuggie Otis or Temptations or whatever. It's inspired by soul and funk partially. But to say it only is is missing the depth of CANs collective classical and folk backgrounds. A lot of what makes it unique is pretty German and much heavier than a lot of bands stateside did. CAN were playing some bits which wouldn't be our of place in a German opera at times albeit less than amon duul ii did.
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Bro really said CAN was stealing Black music but nit trout mask replica. Sp much for you guys knowing the blues lol. I think CAN probably liked Funkadelic though. So some black music but like from other rock bands mostly or psych bands at least.
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But the formal main basis for the music is still largely classical followed by very early electronic and some folk and mideval. It has more black influence than like the moody blues or some shit. The British bands it existed in contrast too even if CAN really overall really probably were more psych than prog. You didn't really have American rock groups who 1 to 1 sounded like them.
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Not giving CAN nearly enough credit. They predicted sterolab and radio head and your favorite shitty post rock band substantially earlier than anybody else did and some 80s indie crap post punk too. Some of it is kind of funky but a lot of it is like folksy or kinda just fantasy sounding too. They had a good degree of variation.
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I like the boomer psych rock parts though if that helps explain anything. I like like Stars and Lines. Like the trippy instrumental shit they did when I smoke weed especially.
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I like Paper house and the live jams More. The autistic screeching is ok. I like how damo wails sometimes. But that guitar is really it. But I love damo as a vocalist too. But I can see how he takes it too far sometimes especially on the second half of tago mago. I like whole people fuelling and stars and lines and like tango whiskeyman and deadlock. Like fucking quite a few live recordings I've hear by them. Idk. I feel like when you're there CAN just gets me in the mood sometimes. Get lost in your thoughts. CAN is very introspective to me. Also very existential at the same time. That's probably pretentious bullshit. But I could talk about them for hours really. Not actually what I've been listening to a ton of lately though.
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I like Damos Autistic Screeching way Moore than Captain Beefhearts who's feels less pained and introspective and more just shrill to my ears. Damo feels like basically John Foghearty with some chinese,japanese,maybe Korean stuff likely from folk music thrown in. He kinda rambles but it's endearing. It sits in contrast to the artsier more abstract style of the rest of the band in ways some of you maybe don't like. It's like if chad krodinger was the lead singer for radio head if I have to anglomog it and spacetimemog it. But I feel like he kinda ballences them out. Everyone else is like doing trippy abstract shit and damos acting like he's fucking Axl rose or some shit prettyuch. But it fucking slaps when you're high enough for it. Some of it is probably from shintoism and similar the weirder vocal techniques but if you take it as like emotive and hearty that's what it's supposed to be. It's trying to achieve the same thing as ccr on the vocals but sort of following along with whatever the rest of the band was doing. Damo was like going at it from less of an artschool background so he's more doing folksy gruff stuff. Like a lot of hard rock bands from that time did. Just more based on Asian music than blues because damo was from Japan. But he's going for like a overall the band ccr early southern rock type vocal thing I think. He gives it an edge and a kick it wouldn't have otherwise. It balances out the ways in which they really are a lot more like both Zappa and the vu prettyuch interchangeably. Like he kind of grounded them drew them back to earth.
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He was doing like country blues roots rock voice stuff but with Asian music basically though. Maybe some classical or other shit he picked up in Germany from the rest of the band. But he's basically supposed to be like East Asian Tom Waits or John Foghearty.
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He was like "LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH EARTHLY DESIRES MAKE ME LAUGH" *Buddhist Chanting* prettymuch. I wish I had a more serious way of putting this but I think Damos idea of what the band should be was gritter or a little more roots oriented than his bandmates who were kind of more academic. It's an acquired taste but Kraoil seems to have more or less gone along with this opting for a more hard rock sounding guitar tone while he was still on the band sort of matching damos energy. He kept them tethered to what was happening elsewhere.
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Damo was probably more inspired by Stepenwolf or some shit than Zappa or Bwefheart or Nico or The Velvet Underground. But he balances out the act. He gave them bite there's still tracks I like on soon over but everything after that is fucking dogshit tbh or least for sure most and the difference between what CAN started developing into after that one and their core work is night and day. They lost direction hard without him. Damo helped them stay on target. Stay conjoined. Sharp.
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>>120008yes, it's unironically one of the greatest art projects of the 21st century, alongside hazbin hotel and chainsaw man
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>>120070meant for>>120037
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Let's see what I missed
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>>120129>>120071>>120070How? How the fuck is having contrast a "logical falicy"? You people are retarded soulless bugmen lol. No wonder you like Dreamtheater.
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>>120070>>120129Incomprehensible nonsense. Have a great one.
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>>120132>>120131your arguments make zero sense and are founded on errors in logic and reasoning. anyone over the age of 13 can see this
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>>120054>Some of it is kind of funky but a lot of it is like folksy or kinda just fantasy sounding too. They had a good degree of variation.dream theater did all of these things 10x better
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>>120134Dreamtheater isn't funky. You're not even reading what I said. If there is any resemblance directly to African American music it is entirely on Funkadelic,Hendrix,etc similar rock acts to that. So although minimal compared to the British bands prior it would be less blues and in fact more soul or funk. I don't feel like CAN actually sound like a soul or funk band tho. They just took inspiration which is fine. They didn't attempt to be a white carbon copy like the stones or vanilla fudge did.
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whatever, I'd still just rather listen to shit made by actual skilled composers like dream theater or zappa. way more musical ideas which are much better executed
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>>120134Folksy and kinda fantasy sounding maybe orchestral but not with the same degree of ambiance or pacing nor authenticity. CAN can sound like some shit that's genuinely from the middle ages. Also Krautrockers respected funk and Soul musicians just due to them being in a similar space artistically at that time. They were just interacting and competing with other acts in similar genres. Listen to Hurry Tomorrow by The Temptations. Also the black acts doing similar ideas to krautrock in America had higher marketability and accessibility than CAN did. But they drew on European sort of not really rock acts aswell. It was a metal dialouge. There was like Germanic "Hyperborian" Cosmic Musik and also Black Artists from the USA doing similar. Why there weren't white artists from the USA is I think just those audiences weren't ready for that level of dissonance. Maybe Allman Brothers Fans were less racist or militaristic than their dad's but they still basically wanted to hear David Allen Coe. So yk. Black Audiances in the USA at that time were just more willing to hear music that played with similar ideas as Krautrock was than white audiances in America were. It's not nearly as bad as you're making it sound. Ultimately Krautrock did not have nearly the commercial appeal beyond German American Communities in small places abd maybe yk other German Disporia basically to "steal" much of anything. What they did do is help me as a white guy of German decent who grew up with the Norse myths and struellpeter understand,respect,and appreciate Soul music though. So I think that's Ultimately a positive thing. CAN brought people together.
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>>120139You're just apeing back things I said to you at me now lol. This isn't a real argument. CAN went to German Comppser School. They were getting training higher and also more traditional than what is available in America at all ever. That's why so much of it goes from classical folk or mideval traditions other than ofc like the "stollen black music" people really fucking liked drugs at that time. But yeah CAN doesn't actually sound like African American Music nor British rock bands immediately before it nor the American ones. For the time it was petty forward thinking.
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>>120133Meltdown retard shit where you just repeat back key reddit phrases and act smug. It makes total sense you just didn't read it.
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Anyone over the age of 13 who isn't a fucking downie isn't listening to Dreamtheater lol. My logic is solid. You're just stupid and can't catch up to it. You're a bug person so soulless shit appeals more.
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>>120140>>120142>>120143>>120144more logical fallacies lol, this is just pathetic
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>>120140what you don't understand is that you don't know how much money is going into a company that has no idea what it's worth to have money for the business to grow in a business and to be successful and to have the right person in charge and be successful and be able and be able and be able and successful and then have a great relationship and a good business to have with you so that they are not in the way you think and you are in a business. You fail to recognize that the company has the potential of a good person in your business to have the best business in your life because it has a very strong and strong relationship and it has the opportunity of having the potential for a great success in your life you are the one who has a great company. But no, keep spouting bullshit about "kraut rock" ignoring the fact that it's just psych rock bullshit and you can tell him to get out and do it yourself if he doesn't like you then he will just be a jerk to him because you know what he is and you don't have a good reason for him not being there to do that you don't want him and he will just go home with him so he doesn't get to do that he will just have a bad day. Fucking idiot.
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>>120147Sounds like you're having a psychotic break with that first part. The second part though yeah I would agree. It's mostly either psych rock or some type of garage,prog,or space rock. It's all more or less directly "psych rock bullshit" yeah.
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>>120147The third part about perking to him also makes you sound like a fucking nutcase ngl. But anyway yeah obviously it's like Psych Rock. I like Psych Rock though. Some of it's more proggy but not any motor than Zappa in the early 70s or pink Floyd for that matter. I just like them more. But I like psych rock yeah. That's not yk. I'm aware haha. If you hate psych rock or 60s 70s shit in general you'll probably hate most of what I listen to. That just goes unsaid haha. I do mix it up sometimes but that's like I would say probably my most listened to genre is like 60s and 70s psych shit yeah.
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>>120145>>120145How is saying they sound more organic a falicy? They're less overproduced. It has to do with presentation as much as anything and Dreamtheater sound cleaner than CAN does. They have more focus on audio engineering. That's presumably part of their appeal and not Live CAN Jam Collection No.420 on YouTube. That's a intentional presentational choice on dreamthsters part. It's supposed to "sound clean" and CAN is not. I don't think you understand what a "logical falicy" is tbh. You've stopped being funny you're actually just annoying now tbh.
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At very least saying that Damos Rootsier and grittier vocal presentation and overall cadence balances out the band and forced them to be anchored down to earth a little more isn't. They became more and more fusion oriented and eventually lost the plot entirely when Damo left. Post 74 CAN is cringe as fuck. Not the only person saying this. They clearly fell off super hard with damo leaving.
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Damos idea of what psych rock vocals should sound like was basically just John fogghearty with some shit grom traditional Asian music thrown in. I don't think that's a stretch. Thing is it fucking works great and really grounds to other members sound. It makes CAN feel like they warrant the noise. The "autistic screeching". He gave them something less academic to build around. Without Damo they certainly wouldn't be a "hipster band" or whatever your complaining about they'd just be some shit for arts studies majors and maybe remembered like rush or dreamtheater actually are. Most of their appeal to the average listener is from the Damo Suzaki era just due to his overall influence on the band. The songwriting,etc because he came from a less academic and more roots/folk background than the rest of the band. He adds edge that's needed to justify it. He adds mood and context. When he left they just devolved into a lame jazz fusion band. Post damo can is waiting room crap.
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>>120151>>120152>>120153>>120154>>120155You're wrong, here's why: Zappa's music more or less represents a new era in the art of the music world and is a new way to connect people with music and culture and culture in a new era where people can be more than one thing and be more creative and more than just music or a different kind or culture and music and culture that they can be more than a single thing and that's the difference in a lot more people that can relate and be more to the same thing and that is what makes them unique than they were before and they can relate and i don't know how they were in a different era and they are not just different times but i don't think it's a different way to get the best of them and that's why they can relate and they are all in a way to be able and that's why they have to go to get better and that's why they don't know how they are the reason they can relate and i don't think that makes them all of us have to go through that. Can on the other hand is derivative and not the other side is a lot more than the one that has a different way of saying it and the way they do things that they are supposed be doing it and they don't want it and it's just not fair for us and it's just like the way it works for them to do things that are different to the way that we want them.
TL;DR fuck Can, Zappa is objectively better
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I'm off a perc and i'm listening to Fear factory - Demanufacture
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>>120169I don't doubt you believe this but he did basically nothing other than Cary ideas from jazz and classical over to rock most of which he couldn't utilize in context. Also he had no concept of songwriting or mood setting/pacing. So no I'm right. Feel free to enter into a state of zappaesque tard rage again. Banging on and hitting ransom objects and whatnot.
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>>120169I like how you're too stupid to connect any of this back with the actual music. Tl;Dr you like it more because you're a manchild with an unearned superiority complex and np concept of presentation or pacing. CAN are better. You like them less almost because they are. They don't hasbin your hotel or have gooner anime subplots in quite the same way.
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It's better if you're intellectual challenged and perpetually insecure about that forcing you to posture around nothing for no reason and not under literally any other circumstances. So it appeals more to a lot of you because of that. The being unlistenable convoluted dogshit that doesn't work in context maybe even helps with that. None of what you just said actually meant anything though. Just proves you're stupid which I already knew lol. So yk.
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>>120200>>120199>>120198>>120201fuck off with this bullshit lol. I already intellectually dismantled CAN into oblivion. you and everyone else in this thread knows that to be true. stop kidding yourself and just move on man
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>>120218You barely made any sense. It was a retarded meltdown. I don't think you're capable of "intellectually dismantling" much of anything. Half the shit you said literally didn't even dramatically make sense. I guess your weird stunted enjoyment of funny screaming does ad up though. You probably struggle a lot with abstract conceptual reasoning.
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>>120225>>120226ok let me explain it to you in simpler terms then since you're too stupid to get it
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>>120228Right. You said this an hour ago and still haven't explained it lol. You can't. There's no logic it's just you having a Trout Mask Replica Tier Meltdown once again.
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>>120232fuck you, I had a family emergency
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>>120246No you fucking didn't lol. I appreciate that you're not even pretending you've ever worked a day in your life though. But no you're just stalling because you can't think of anything to say haha. Ask your best friend chatgpt and get back to me.
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>>120246Family Emergency when your mom beats you because you're probably 40 but have never worked a day in your life.
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so is it Dr. detail or the allston? how about soogies
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>>120287>>120257You've never had a job haha. But yeah I'm right. You never had a point to begin with. Keep spazzing out.
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>>120292>>120293Art is definetely real btw. But yeah you're not wrong. I quit the last one because this guy kept fucking starting shit tbh. Was there about 6 months. This job called me twice in a 2 day span though so hopefully might hire.
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I mean the second part yk get your money up gotta make sure I'm good.
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Can we have like a fuck nico or fuck the hollies thread next time at least? Fuck The Velvet Underground? You don't have to agree with me on anything but can you at least spazz out and ragebait about something else next time? Or are we just triggered?
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>>120344Yeah tbh it's rough. I mean I'm autistic though so yk. Need to do something with my life lol. I quit my last job because this one guy kept harassing me. He had priors but was also like 60 years old so I didn't really wanna fight him in a parking lot. Nobodies hiring atm or very few. I'm sure one of you retards will argue with that but it's true. If you have skills that could give you a stable life by all means use them.
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Art isn't worthless I don't think it's all corperste noise either. I think that's just the retarded goyslop tiktok zoomers have access too. But like as far as real life goes if you can make sure you got the money to support yourself.
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Was there about 6 months. It's yk. My last two jobs I made them work. You gotta make things work sometimes. But that one guy I just fucjcing couldn't he was a mental patient and a half. He was spergier than me lol. I guess jail does that to people though. But I wasn't yk trying to deal with him. Deal with his shit. It's yk. Wasn't worthit at a certain point.
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>>120327suck my fucking dick you piece of shit
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>>120394>whenever someone disagrees with me that means they're having a meltdownlogical fallacy
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>>120369Art is all just corporate and personal responsibility to make the best use possible to be successful and to make a good living for yourself in your life as well and as you do so you can make the most out there and be happy with yourself as much of what you're passionate and passionate as you are and you can be happy and proud and proud and happy and happy with your work you have done. Objectively speaking art is a form that is a very powerful tool and you should have a very powerful piece to make that is that it will make your own and that is your business as you will make it a very important piece to make your life better than it should it will be your business as you are in your business as you have to be able and i hope you are the most successful person that i love and you will make your own life and you are a great person.
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>>120398I mean you're actively melting down and have been for days lmao. You love throwing your silly meme phrases around though. Is it also an appeal to skibbidi authorities from ohio?
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>>120400There's definetely art that is done without the expectation of seeing a cash return idk what you're saying lol. You just like funko pops. It's fine. You're right that everything you like is a product and that if it wasn't it wouldn't have epic enough lore for you to engage in it. I know this already.
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I like how the thread died when it wasn't exclusively an excuse for dreamthester admin to tard out while somehow feeling less like an incel. Says a lot about society and about gaming.
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>>120453FUCK OFF YOU STUFICKING ASSHJPOLE I SWAEER TO FUCKING GOD YOU FUCKING PICE FCOF SHUT FYUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
!!!!!!!!! YOU HAV EJNMO IDEA HWAT THE FUCK YIOU'RE TALKING ABOTU THTAT'S HWY YOU LIKE BFUCKING BULLSHIT MUSIC LIKE CAN FUCK OFF WITH THAT STUPID FUCKING LBULLSHIT AND LISTEN TO FUCKING DREAM THTEATERE!! β120456[Quote]
>>120454>>120454Tard Rage Replica
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The type of spastic meltdown you're prone to if you're the type of person who listens to Dreamtheater while CAN fans practice socialism by being able to hold a normal conversation.
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Bro basically implicitly admitting he has no emotional regulation,attention span,or emotional nuance which his weird little fandom hobbies already signaled. Trust me I knew haha.
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>>120459I'm not admitting that, as a matter of fact I clearly have a better functioning brain than you seeing as I actually understand challenging art. Go back to your Jourden Pietersen lobster bullshit lol
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>>120460You are and are continuing too with this meltdown lol. Itsnjust the truth. You can't sit still and can't process detail nor organic displays of human emotion. You probably like Panty Stocking and Garterbelt or Excel Saga or some other shitty "comedy" anime too. It's a lack of taste. Because you're tasteless. You're tasteless because you're probably slightly stupid too. So no. I'm not doubting that Zappa and Dreamtheater used heckin correct matharinos. Just doesn't mean either of them work musically or sound good lol.
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>>120460Bro doubling down on spelling Jordan Peterson like a retard pretending he did it on purpose like we don't both know he's too stupid to even get the name of the person he's trying to invoke right and as if he's not thr target audience for pseudointellectual incelslop. Like Zappas takeaways about women yeah that will totally be what gets you laid "bro". Haha ok.
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>>120460>"clearly have a better functioning brain than you seeing as I actually understand challenging art."Challenging art is when you like funny tard screaming because you're contrarian and want everybody to think you're smarter than you actually are as opposed to having genuine depth now I guess. You listen to tard rage music. Nothing you like is "challenging art". Nobody else even sees Zappa as art lol. Tard rage Jerome Pewtersmith tier seething that you can't even fully explain.
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>"Le random quirky jump ghuyz! I'm sophisticated and deep n0w haha…."
Has this ever actually worked for you? What's it like still being a virgin at 40?
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>>120461>Panty Stocking and Garterbelt or Excel Sagaall three of these have way more artistic merit than CAN, although they aren't on the level of masterpieces such as Chainsaw Man or Homestar Runner
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>>120465Bro you're having a spastic meltdown. Just stop haha. Idek man.
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>>120466not an argument. do you need me to go into depth explaining the nuances of chainsaw man and homestar runner? I would but you'd just dismiss it pathetically as you always do
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>>120465There's no fucking way you're not trolling
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Anyway please explain all the nuances and intricaces of chainsaw man and homestar runner to us
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>>120473you're just gonna accuse me of having a meltdown if I do. show you're capable of intellectual honesty first and then I will
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>>120474I'm not the CAN guy
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>>120475Can Guy Fantano here:was picking up groceries. Didn't get my energies yet though. Might feel silly and get cigarettes instead epic style not quite sure.
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@grok summarize this argument?
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>>120500you haven't replied to any of my arguments seriously, you've already shown yourself to he acting in bad faith. why should I even bother trying to explain these things to you?
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>>120501You didn't have any. You think you did. But those were more meltdowns. I corrected you multiple times about how you were long though lol. You can keep bashing your head onto the wall though. Matter of fact start typing in all caps again. It lacks structure lacks songwriting any semblance that Zappa has any real sense of what he's doing beyond the "math" but sure. The only reason you're still starting these arguments is because bitches wouldn't fuck you probably otherwise doesn't matter. I'm clearly not gonna change my mind here. So it's just you melting down really. That's all it is. You don't understand what an argument even is. You just make increasingly angry statements with no real founding and insist Zappa could do things he visibly couldn't or hypothetically he totally really could have bur definetely very actively I'm sure chose not to that everybody else does as like the basic formula to even understanding or practicing music. So no. I don't think you have any. Feel free to spazz greatly and prove me right though.
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>>120501You talk in like baby retard speak. I don't think there's anything you could explain to me tbh. You haven't explained anything you've just had meltdowns repeatedly. Point to one place where you "explained" shit you can't. So yeah. Time for your caretakers put you back in your padded sell and put back on the frank Zappa so you can calm yourself. I really don't give a fuck.
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>>120501You just went radio silent for several hours even though I know you have no friends and have probably very little work experience either. You weren't explaining a "thing" before that. You maybe thought you did. I could believe that.
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Every time you go radio silent because of how very obviously noncompetent you are I take that as admittance and honestly I think doing so is fair. You don't clearly nothing is expected of you. So given that it means I "won" in a sense. I'm sorry you couldn't participate in family football practice or whatever,but art actually isn't a competitive sport. And Zappa playing all the supposed "right notes in a line is actually not making him a better artist. But for somebody like you who can't conceptualize abstract things that's easier I'm sure.
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>>120526None of these explained anything lmao. Just meltdowns.
>>120526This one especially is just retarded mumbling tbh. So yes. It's that you're conceptually challenged. Also do you ever fucking sleep? Jeez haha.
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>>120169>>>120151 (You)>>>120152 (You)>>>120153 (You)>>>120154 (You)>>>120155 (You)>"You're wrong, here's why: Zappa's music more or less represents a new era in the art of the music world and is a new way to connect people with music and culture and culture in a new era where people can be more than one thing and be more creative and more than just music or a different kind or culture and music and culture that they can be more than a single thing and that's the difference in a lot more people that can relate and be more to the same thing and that is what makes them unique than they were before and they can relate and i don't know how they were in a different era and they are not just different times but i don't think it's a different way to get the best of them and that's why they can relate and they are all in a way to be able and that's why they have to go to get better and that's why they don't know how they are the reason they can relate and i don't think that makes them all of us have to go through that. Can on the other hand is derivative and not the other side is a lot more than the one that has a different way of saying it and the way they do things that they are supposed be doing it and they don't want it and it's just not fair for us and it's just like the way it works for them to do things that are different to the way that we want them.">>TL;DR fuck Can, Zappa is objectively betterThis has to be the most mentally challenged thing ever written lol. Not a single word related directly back to the music. Just delusional manchild posturing about your funny retarded screeching lol. So anyway he lacked consistent pacing or songwriting. Why not you smear yourself with shit and start yelling about Jordan Peter's son again?
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Creative is when you have sporky epic tard outs in the middle of the song and when there's zero emotional ressenence because you're a 40 years old incel with rage who has the intellectual capacity of a Middle schooler.
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>"Can on the other hand is derivative and not the other side is a lot more than the one that has a different way of saying it and the way they do things that they are supposed be doing it and they don't want it and it's just not fair for us and it's just like the way it works for them to do things that are different to the way that we want them.""
It's really not you're just mentally delayed. Zappa was 1000 times less original you just can't sit still long enough for CAN. They literally changed standardized song structures. Zappa didn't. Might have thought he did lol. Start pissing and shitting yourself and writing "sex tape" over and over again that was funnier and you're clearly retarded fuck knows I'm not trying to have a Serious conversation with you when you're simply not capable of doing that.
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>>120527>>120528nice way of admitting that you're too stupid to understand simple logic lol
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>>120529there's way more emotional ressenence than in Can's shitty music, Can is basically like it Stauckhaussen started a rock band, which is to say it's cold, academic, and frankly of no interest to actual music fans
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>>120558You're just sayi1ng shit. There isn't. He couldn't even song write. Another meaningless whinny comment you probably think contained an argument somewhere. Remember when you were spamming the word sex tape for some reason because you're the type of future rapist who hangs out at hobby shops and you've never had sex so you thought it was funny? Then you realized you were giving your self away so you suddenly stppped? Yeah there's your mental capacity lol. But no it clearly does better on all these accounts. You don't like it because it reminds you that you're an incel or a pogchamp probably. It isn't poggers or Ryan gosling enough. Doesn't have those "witty" Zappa one liners about how the piss represents the free hand of the market according to ayn Rand while the shitting and farting represent cultural prejudice. Really high level stuff I'm sure.
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>>120557>"too stupid for logic"This is ypu having a epic discord meltdown again haha. It's tard rage "music" that's objectively bad and you only like it because you relate to Frank Zappa and probably Captain Beefheart too. You can't point to anything concrete.
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>>120558>too cold>too academicSo we're admitting that your visible mental retardation and emotional regulation problems are a large factor here? Thanks for admitting you only enjoy retarded screeching and funny farting noises lol. Zappas Riffs are impressive but not ponient. Interchangeable and directionless.
>"no real appeal to music fans"Nah me and other people who go outside definetely. Actual music enjoyers. Fat spastic retards with no attention span and zero life skills like you who still obsess over 100 gecs and post rock as adults obviously not but that's because you're a worthless piece of shit. The people who are actually making music or frankly contributing virtually anything to society aren't into homestuck nor frank Zappa. You're the Jamal Perogi I'm afraid to tell you. You have the same mindset. Except unlike him you're never going to have more than $100 on your bank account and will inevitably die a virgin. Jordan Peterson is you if you were less mentally handicapped and also employable.
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Just a little wake up there. Feel free to pretend to be busy for several hours sp you can feel smug when we both know you're probably in a mental hospital. Where people who feel the social pressures to feign enjoyment of things like this generally reside. Because that's the only way somebody like you can make friends probably. Go ahead. Pretend your busy. Pretend something happened.
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Jam Wayne Petershtal
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Can't believe Jaquan Penticostal is spreading all this disrespectful antisemitic 2nd wave feminism. Truly the east has fallen. You definetely go outside and know what's happening in the world haha. We all totally believe yuo……. uhhhhhhhh…….Jordan Peterson hasn't been relevant in a minute lol. He's like barely active haha. I'm sure you definitely were aware of that right? He's like a Gamergate to first Donald Trumo I presidency political figure. Stopped being relevant during Biden.
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*trump (since I know you're a gigavirgin and spellchecking people is the closest you can get to an orgasm) (that's when he was last truly relevant tho or maybe morelike early biden)
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marge?
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>>120571>>120572>>120573>>120574>>120575>>120576none of this even makes sense lol. how fucking stupid are you?
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>>120578>>120579He's just babbling
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>>120581Listened don't get it tbh
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>>120582listen here fucking asshole, the most common type for a single cell in a family of four or five cells in a cell with the following cell structure and function are the cells in which they form a single nucleus and are used for a cell of four or six cells that is a single nucleus that has the most important part in a single nucleus is the nucleus and is the most complex of cells in a family cell and is the largest in a family that has the highest cell density of cells and is called the nucleus what type is a type that has a single nucleus and cell structure. what you just don't get is that the cells have the most important component in a family cells that is a family cells and cells and cells and cells and the cell is a family cells and the family cell and cells and cells and the whole cell cells and the rest are cells are the cell is the cell is the cells and the other cell is a family cells and cells and cells and the golden egg cell is the most complex cells and cells and the most complex cellular structures and the cell cells and the cell has a family cell is a family cells and the cell and cells and the cell structure in a family cells are called cell types. but you wouldn't know that, because they would have been a cell and cell and not cells or cell cells that would have had cell structure or cells in a family cells and cell cells and cell cells and cell types that are cells. retard
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>>120583>>120584You are oblivious to the fact that you have been given the right of way by a man who is a woman to marry you in a man you have no rights and you have to live in the world that is your choice to live with him. cells are the most common and the only way you will ever be treated like that in your lifetime is by the way the most common way you will never get the chance of getting the right man and the best person for your family is by your side because cells will be your life if they are you are the best man in this universe you are not a human and i am a person you can be anything and anything and i can say you will always make you feel good about yourself. cellular organisms are not the only ones to make your own cells and they will always make me feel like that organic cells that are the best thing that i can be the most common form and you will be a part in life of a cellular system that you can make cell cells and other organs and cells in the same cell to be used for your cell and cells and organs to be able and to make cells that you have a cellular structure that you have to be a part in your body and your organs and your body to make a cellular structure which of these is not true for the cells in your cells that you have a body cell and the cell structure is a cell that has the most complex cell structures that can make cell structure that are the cell structures. cells are the cells and the cells are called cell structure that form the cells are the cell and cell structures that form a cellular structures are the cell and cellular system is called cellular cells and cellular system which are all of them the cellular system has many cells and the structure and the cells that cell types and the cellular system that are not cell types.
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>>120592You donβt know that you have been given the right to marry the same sex, but you donβt have the right to do so. You have to live your life on earth. I chose you to be with him. Cells are more universal. And there is only one way to be with you in your life, the most universal way. You never get the chance to meet the right man. And the best man for your family is when he is by your side. Because cells are your life. If cells are like that, youβre the best person in the universe. You are not a human being. And Iβm a human being. You can be anything and I can say you always feel good. Cells are more than just cellular structures. And they always make me feel that organic cells are the best, the most universal form. And you are part of the life cycle of the cellular system. You can make other cells and organs. And cells in a single cell, to use them for your cells and cells and organs, so you can make cells. You have a cellular structure that must be part of your body and organs in your body in order to form cellular structures. Which is not true for the cells in your cell. Your body has cells, cell structures are the most complex cells that can form cell structures. Cells are cells, and cells are called the cellular structures that make up cells. Cells that make up cellular structures are cells, cell systems, and cells, cell systems, which are all cell systems. Cells contain many cells and structures that are both cell-like and non-cellular systems.
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>>120597Cells vary in their abilities, and the structure of the brain is a crucial mechanism that not only allows the body to behave, but the brain is designed to do the work that our bodies are designed to do. Is it better to tell someoneβs brain that we can use a part of the energy in a way that we canβt for some reason, or to make it just a part that makes that person feel better than others? Your life isnβt worth anything in any way, and you have an idea and opinion of your partner in some way, and you have a human sexual relationship that you have. Porn videos are not something you have to do; we all have to do it. Itβs a very big deal. The best thing is for you to understand, not just me. The best thing you can do is listen to your cells, the best thing to do. The most interesting thing is what the cells do in the human body, and I am a cell, and I behave like other people.
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>>120599>>120597>>120596Sex tapes are an essential tool for surveillance in a society where women make up the majority of the population, and less than a quarter of the worldβs population and half of the worldβs men and women have sex at any given time. Why not accept that if youβre a man, youβre not stupid, itβs a great idea and a great way to start the week. Sex tapes are great for the first week, but not for the first two weeks and the first few days. I had a terrible headache, so it was time for bed. The cells always win and will behave like breath cells, and in the next few days, I think it is my turn and I hope the cells will regenerate so we can be more alike.
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>>120601I'm not like sure they actually make up the majority of the population bro. Do you got a source? I'm pretty sure there's like more dudes actually otherwise why do women candidates keep losing?
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>>120601Cells like sperms cells? Or like Freudian?
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>>120603>>120604Read a fucking book lol
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>>120601Bro this has nothing to do with CAN or Frank Zappa. Everybody knows what a sex tape is. Most people just don't enjoy screaming it like that into adulthood like you do. That's called being mental impaired.
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>>120607No I think I got what I needed to. I can see what your problem is.
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>>120608So what's the problem? How do you understand these rooms in sex tapes? There's no understanding of life, of the environment beyond it, of the environment beyond the recordings you've been receiving for decades. Understanding the truth and understanding what you can say about your body isn't about making it alive. Stem cells are a type of cell that wasn't created for this purpose, but they have the ability to perform biological functions that shape the flow of life, and whose biological functions constitute a unique biological and ecological factor essential to every human being. The connection between cells and sex tapes, in simple terms.
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>>120608>>120606By the way, Zappa still has a knack for finding a new song on your iPod that will make your life better than it already is, and he's never tired of the same song, which will make any stupid musician you like go crazy. Sex tapes always have the potential for the future, and the present is the best way to find the future, and you can always make your future better by making it a priority. However, this is in stark contrast to the music of Can and The Velvet Underground. Cells can't reproduce in a certain way without a sound, or a sound that a cell can make, or their cellular functions, and that's not the only way to do it. You have to make the best sound, you have to be the cell of the song that provides the cellular respiration of your body, and then the music becomes more important.
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>>120609Bro I was responding on autopilot what rooms are we talking about?
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>>120610Dude I don't think that really makes as much sense as you think it does ngl.
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>>120612Oh? Do you need me to make a tiktok explaining it? Or should I reword it using words more common to your vocabulary, like "skibidi" and "ohio"
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>>120613Dude that was a Jordan Peterson Moment and a half lol. Idk. I believe you believe.
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>>120613Bro thinks he's Jamal Patrichia.
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>>120615Nothing like Jourden Pietersen lol. I wouldn't expect someone who likes random noise like CAN to be able to differentiate from those things though
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>>120613The obsession with sex tapes is a bit unsettling and explains your obsession with Zappa on like a psychiatric dependency level I guess. Is that really what you wanted to hear? Yeah I imagine a porn addict with zero attention span who was already probably let's be real not he brightest would be the ideal frank Zappa "fan". None of his songs work lol. They fail to do what I think you think you're describing. Sure talk in a way which makes you sound less like a serial rapist with down syndrome bro. If saying skibbidi and ohio will make you act normal so be it. So yeah. Explain it with skinbidi ohios I guess. Just don't say whatever the fuck you were just saying again in any context ever.
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>>120617You're literally him if he had zero hoes and wasn't a respected academic. The only ways you're different are the ways in which he's better than you. Frank Zappa was just 70s Jorden Pewdiepie anyway.
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>>120617No you're clearly retarded haha. CAN is far from random. Zappa on the other hand couldn't write a good melody to save his life. But I know saying this makes up for not being able to tie your own shoes.
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What if you just tried actually forming full coherent sentences? That's a strategy right?
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>>120620I can tie my own shoes you fucking idiot. Where are you even getting this shit from?
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Can't believe Jeremy Kobain Corbin Pewtershmit said all that. The lobsters they were feeding him must have really had a lot of fent in them.
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>>120622Bro you can't even spell his name lol. You're mentally challenged or something. Either that or you're like a tweaker.
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This shit is either extremely funny or sad. I think you should go outside and make some friends. You could go to the local hobby shop. Seems like you'd belong there.
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>>120618Okay, first kiss my ass. Secondly, you know nothing about sex tapes or cell phones, and this is not the first time this has happened to you. Zappa's music is based on these ideas, and cells and organic cell membranes do not represent how we feel, what our bodies do in certain cell types, what our cells do, how our brains and thoughts process them. But let's not overdo it, okay?
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>>120627Yeah that's the most retarded shit I've ever heard. Are you having a fucking aneurism or what lol.
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>>120627>"Secondly, you know nothing about sex tapes or cell phones"Do you have dementia? Are you on heroin?
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>>120628> >>120629> >>120630> zero arguments to be found here lol
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>>120632>>120627You just spouted a bunch of nonsensical bullshit because you're retarded. CAN is better. They had a sense of songwriting and pacing. They had a sense of natural tension. Zappa struggled with these concepts in a way CAN did not. So yeah idk dude lol. I don't think there is a single Zappa Song that's as smooth as Sing Swan Song was. Strong disagree.
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>>120632CAN feel like they eb and flow naturally while Zappa feels very forced and stilted. As a musician you kind of just know what this means. Hard to put into any more specifics than that. But CAN feels organic and breathing in a way aswell as primal/emotional/human to me and Zappa doesn't. I don't think I'm the only one with that experience either that's pretty close to like critical consensus. You get all your opinions off some guy on discord though. Not my fault. Doesn't really bother me.
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>>120632Bec1ause everything you said was demented and unintelligible just like the true media origins of yor secret ohio edition platinum rizz rare funkos of Zappa.
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Vro doesn't deserve serious discussion lol. This is mental.
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>>120634Oh, the critical consensus from the School of "My Feelings Are Facts"! My Discord guy just chuckled so hard his monocle popped off. Clearly, you've mistaken "complex" for "stilted." Bless your heart.
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>>120637No I think I correctly view it as stilted lol. I get you pretend to Luke this crap because you have zero concept of form but complexity is only a good thing if you can still have it flow. Zappas shit doesn't flow. It interrupts itself constantly for weird diatribes and dorky soloing. It fails to do this incredibly hard Din terms of almost nothing he did really feels concrete in a sense. Idk dude. I understand why saying this makes you feel better haha.
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>>120637>"ou've mistaken "complex" for "stilted." Bless your heart."You're literally mentally retardeddlol. But no. The complexity isn't genuine. He just plays a bunch of useless fill parts other people don't. You pretend to like it because you think it makes you seem intelligent but it's actually just redundant. CAN I admit might not have used many odd time signatures but they were continuous and entirely centered around the mood of the piece. Ultimately a clearly far superior approach. And yes. They had training that you're too dumb to understand. We can't all be smart though ig.
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>>120637Ofc you have discord mod friends lol. I mean you're the type of tard who would. The faux irony shit only takes it so far. Muchlike it did for Zappa.
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>>120640Cells are the only cells that can produce any kind of energy. When the body processes it, uses it in the process to produce more, or uses the results, the body produces cells that produce that component or more. I think Zappa had seen pornographic films before, and I think that's a good thing. That's where his genius comes in. When I first heard him speak, it sounded like him. He said in his speech that he was strong, the same strength that I saw. The point is, it's common sense, so I should do it.
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>>120640>>120639I mostly use Discord to watch sex tapes, but thatβs about it. I first heard Zappa when I watched a sex tape, and that opened my eyes to new things. But youβll never understand, youβre too busy listening to stupid, old dull music. Thatβs why your cell membrane is so weak. It has no cellular energy.
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>>120653Makes no sense, you are on a server like that
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>>120651>>120653I don't think that's how cellular energy works.
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>>120694ok then explain to us how it works professor
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Should i goon her?
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>>120661>>120583what does this have to do with Zappa and Can? or are you just having another meltdown
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holy fuck youre all schizophrenic what the fuck does some 70s musician have to do with sex tapes and braincells
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Holy fuck what have you done homestargods?
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>>120755>>120780It has nothing he's having a mental breakdown trying to think harder than he's capable.
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>>120753Yeah that's right. You have profund mental retardation. Glad you finally figured that out.
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>>120704Actual profound mental retardation lol. They sure as fuck don't respond like mood rings. I don't have to be a scientist to figure out that one.
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>>120738I liked it as a kid. There's some nostalgia for it but not actively
Unless I'm really drunk. I didn't yk return to childhood the way you did rofl. Having an ebin pop culture reference won't convince me to like it. As pretentious as they were CAN did it the old fashioned way. Maybe they were experimental for the time but they didn't let their heads get the best of them. They wrote great songs with memorable solos and instrumentals and a really wide range of more traditional influences. I'm not doubting they were up their own asses aswell but they kept the plot more in that sense I think largely thanks to Damo.
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>>120704They don't have emotions or consciousness. It's not that part of your body. They're not going to start cringing at you if you say you don't watch porn or don't listen to Zappa. I get your mentally impaired but that isn't how it works. They're not individually sentient. Your cells don't have an opinion on the role of phonography. That's like saying COVID 19 only got libtards sick because the virus itself was deeply republican and was academically fond of Jordan Peterson.
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Literally what you're describing would require them to be sentient. So I don't need any data to back that up. They do not judge me for not watching enough porno. They Don't and won't ever even have concepts.
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You're assuming a bunch of insano shit lol. The guy who thinks Zappa works contextually or flows remotely organically also believes his fucking cells are judging his fucking phonography consumption. Honestly checks out. You're seeing patterns where they don't exist lol.
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*pornography
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Literally on par with somebody saying covid 19 attacked China because it read Atlas Shrugged and hated Marxism. No. Your cells do not have an opinion on the role of pornography in society. They did not say this. Watching "sex tapes" or "knowing what it is' will not effect them. They don't judge your sexual performance either. That's chemical. That's hormonal.
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I can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely retarded although I'm leaning towards genuinely retarded. Impossible for me to take your opinions seriously though. I know they don't think or feel and that you can't literally inject pornography like heroin. I doubt gambling has a cellular effect either.
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Like dude all I have to know to know this is bullshit is they don't have consciousness. A fucking fetus couldn't do this so how is a singular cell going too? Stupid. A tree can't judge you like this you think a single cell is going to have an exact amount of porn you have to watch before it decides you aren't prudent? You think your body can even tell if you were watching porn like that? Insane.
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A cat probably doesn't even understand what pornography is or what you're trying to say. Like how would a singular cell even detect that? It can't. You have like looney toons model reality.
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>>120786Listen, idiot, the most common type of single cell is in a family of four or five cells. In a cell with this structure and function, these cells form a single nucleus and are used by four or six cells. The nucleus is the largest in the family of the first, and the speciation is the substance within the speciation, which is the same nucleus and cellular structure. What you don't understand is that cells play a very important role in family cells, which are family cells, family cells, family cells, and all cells, everything is cells, family cells, and more cells, called cell types. But you wouldn't know this because they would be cell-to-cell, not cells, or cells within cells would have a molecular structure, or cells within family cells, family cells, and cell types, which are cells.
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>>120801>>>120786>Listen, idiot, the most common type of single cell is in a family of four or five cells. In a cell with this structure and function, these cells form a single nucleus and are used by four or six cells. The nucleus is the largest in the family of the first, and the speciation is the substance within the speciation, which is the same nucleus and cellular structure. What you don't understand is that cells play a very important role in family cells, which are family cells, family cells, family cells, and all cells, everything is cells, family cells, and more cells, called cell types. But you wouldn't know this because they would be cell-to-cell, not cells, or cells within cells would have a molecular structure, or cells within family cells, family cells, and cell types, which are cells.Yes none of which are sentient. Who are you calling an idiot lol. Get help.
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>>120802You really are the master of missing the point entirely aren't you? Lol
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>>120801>"What you don't understand is that cells play a very important role in family cells, which are family cells, family cells, family cells, and all cells, everything is cells, family cells, and more cells, called cell types. But you wouldn't know this because they would be cell-to-cell, not cells, or cells within cells would have a molecular structure, or cells within family cells, family cells, and cell types, which are cells."See thats a fun science fact but it doesn't negate that they lack consciousness nor the sort of systems a computer or ai would. Any feasible way to even have concepts at all muchless a model of human psychology or anything that would allow them to have a sense of moral or cultural standing on an issue like pornography. They're a "family" in that they grouped together through some chemical process. They're not watching porn because they're not watching anything. You were a crazy ahh ahh truck freak for ever even thinking this.
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>>120804Your point makes no sense and just makes it sound like you're either clinically insane or mentally retarded. Probably both. This insight into how the world worked really contextualized your inability to find and detect patterns while imagining none where there aren't any though. So thank you for confirming my pre existing biases about who you are as a person.
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>>120804>>>120802 (You)>You really are the master of missing the point entirely aren't you? LolWhat did you think your point was other than having another trout mask meltdown?
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>>120805>>120806>>120807Cells are unique in their capabilities, and the structures of the brain are so complex that our bodies cannot function alone, but our brains are designed to mimic what our bodies were designed to do. What better way to tell the human mind that we are using energy that we are not using, or a part of the human being that feels better than it is used to? Your life is wonderful, you think and care about your partner, and you have sex with that person. Movies are not for you; We have to. This is important. You know best, not just me. The best way to listen to content is to put it first. The most interesting thing is that the human body is made up of cells, and I am a cell, functioning like everyone else.
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>>120809One of their capabilities is definetely not independent thought when you could argue that pack animals don't even have that.
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>>120811Cells have different functions, and nerves are very complex. Our bodies canβt function independently, but our brains understand how they do. Listen, you are a plant, a cell that belongs mostly to a four- or five-cell family. The cell in this region is a monocyte, which uses four or five cells. What is the best way to tell the human brain that it is using less energy or that our organ is functioning more efficiently than before? The base is larger than the previous generation; his identity is his identity. The nucleus looks like a cell structure. You may not know this, but stem cells play a vital role in cell families, including stem cells, stem cells, progenitor cellsβall of these cells, but also many other types of cells that we call cell types. But you donβt know this because itβs not a cell of a cell, and itβs not a cell of a cell. Life is so great. You think about your friends, you dream about them, you sleep with that person. You canβt imagine all this; they had to do it. This is important. You know Iβm not alone. The best way to pay attention is to focus. Interestingly, the human body is made up of cells, and I, like everyone else, am a cell.
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>>120809>>120809>"and the structures of the brain are so complex that our bodies cannot function alone, but our brains are designed to mimic what our bodies were designed to do"1.this has objectively no relation to the topic at hand other than that you're a spastic reddit bug person who mistakenly thinks this is how smart people talk
2.none of what you said means they have complex thought or political opinions. If your heckin pupperino isn't judging you for watching porn then the fucking cells in your body aren't either. This isn't even a fetus were talking about. It doesn't have a brain. But your instance on this confirms what type of person you are and why you pretend to find this crap listenable for sure. I'm gonna go spark a joint and listen tp stars and lines. Let me know when it catches up to you that the single celled organisms in your body don't and cannot understand any of this shit.
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>>120812>>120812>"Cells have different functions, and nerves are very complex. Our bodies canβt function independently, but our brains understand how they do. Listen, you are a plant, a cell that belongs mostly to a four- or five-cell family. The cell in this region is a monocyte, which uses four or five cells. What is the best way to tell the human brain that it is using less energy or that our organ is functioning more efficiently than before? The base is larger than the previous generation; his identity is his identity."That's a more complex chain reaction for sure than the individual cells in your body consciously deciding that they support pornography consumption. Which in practice would be necessary for literally any of the shit you just said to take place or make any sense.
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They might trigger an effect but they're not literally directly judging you lol. My body cells aren't going to decide I was prudish ans insecure because I didn't watch enough porn. That's simply not reality. But your bizzare stilted idea of reality explains your bizzare insecure fake interests as opposed to the stuff you actually are interested in which is probably like anime.
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>>120812>>120812>"I like everyone else am a cell"No you're not you're multiple cells put together into a larger structure. You are not an individual cell nor are individual cells capable of complex planning. It's the larger structure formed by the cells that is capable of doing this but the cells in an individual level are not. The cell is like really really tiny and hundreds and thousands and millions of them make up the larger component. What you're attempting to describe is morelike not cellular directly but more complex brain functions.
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That's like saying an individual grain of sand supported pornography consumption because you do and you swallowed a singular grain of sand by accident without realizing it at the beach once. But those incredibly literal and fractured childlike view of how these functions work explain why you think other people enjoy and will think your sophisticated for pretending to see a pattern in some of this crap. Fucking fried.
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Also it's not just "everyone on the planet" or everybody else it's everything is made up of cells. You're assuming they're intelligent inherently but inanimate objects are also cellular. That doesn't prove anything by any standard.
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>>120819>>120817you clearly know nothing about sex tapes and it shows
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>>120820I don't think I have to to know that "like everybody else I am a cell" and the idea of cells having higher reasoning are a bit much.
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>>120820I mean you have no concept of actual sex beyond hentai so let's not get TOO crazy haha.
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What's the consensus on Catherine Ribeiro though? Basically Nicos French equivalent I guess or something like that.
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>>120825>>120826Here's an objective fact: cells are the only cells in a human cell capable to function properly in the body and the brain. Cellular function can also function as an indicator for a person who has been diagnosed as having an illness and is therefore a condition or condition of a specific type or disease. Zappa's music is an artistic representation of a specific kind or type that has a particular type or characteristic of the person or culture that has a certain kind or cultural origin that has a similar type or cultural background. Same thing applies to sex tapes, which are used in movies as a form for a film or movie or movie or a film or any kind that has been made in a particular way to the same kind. Stop being stupid and think about this seriously.
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>>120839>"Here's an objective fact: cells are the only cells in a human cell capable to function properly in the body and the brain."That's interesting. It's cool. I believe you've done drugs now. Maybe we should continue this discussion when you can spell.
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>>120839>"Zappa's music is an artistic representation of a specific kind or type that has a particular type or characteristic of the person or culture that has a certain kind or cultural origin that has a similar type or cultural background."Yeah you should probably narrow that down a little. This might be applicable to everything ever. That was a really meaningless one even by your standards. But sure it's a product of it's time. I'll give you that if that is what you meant.
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>"Same thing applies to sex tapes, which are used in movies as a form for a film or movie or movie or a film or any kind that has been made in a particular way to the same kind. Stop being stupid and think about this seriously."
Steve Albini Type shii. Songs about Fucking! So true,sis.
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Yeah so anyway none of that shit made any sense other than Frank Zappa being a product of it's time I'll agree with. I think by sex tapes you maybe mean less porn specifically and morelike lowbrow in some sort of very limited regional dialect. If you didn't mean lowbrow by "sex tapes" in this context and were describing "sex tapes" in a literal sense I'm not sure why you're shoehorning that one in. But if you mean he was lowbrow I guess I'd agree with you too. I would in fact put frank zappas music on par with your sex tapes lol.
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If you mean Zappa appeals to people with a substantial lower iq and more limited attention span than CAN does I'll agree there. Not really a flex but sure. Zappa Fans tend to not be people with lots of utility. You don't see them in the workforce. Just like people who actually collect sex tapes and probably both overlapping with figurine collectors.
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CAN is fucking based lol
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>>120845>>120844You're a fucking idiot, you don't understand the sheer cellular necessity of something like frank zappa or sex tapes, you naturally can't see the connection because you're utterly clueless. Sex tape is the ultimate need of cells in terms of cellular energy renewal in cellular systems and cells which are themselves cells. Moreover the functions of cells within the music of frank zappa are proof of this general idea. This was incredibly clear to me due to the fact that the first time I heard zappa music was while watching a sex tape, this made me aware of all these issues through the axioms he laid out.
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>>120785i don't really care about Zappa or much music I just have Godzilla autism so i know that little factoid
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>>120842Sex tapes are the most popular and popular in america today as well and are a popular choice to be found on a regular day of work and a great opportunity for the young men to share the opportunity with. Sex tapes will cellularly help to make a good example for women in their own time in their own home and in the future if you want them in the future to have fun with and be able and have a fun life together. Cell walls are a thing and they can make a lot more sense to you if you're a fan or a friend of mine and i can tell them to be happy with it if you like cells and cell cells which are very nice to them too and cellular biology is very good and they are not the only thing i can say to them.
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>>120899I like ELP. I know the one you're talking about but prefer the damo suzaki era.
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>>120929try making an argument next time
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>>120933You tried and failed to lol. It was nonsensical.
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Frank Zappa doesn't work musically and CAN does simple as.
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>>120935>it's your fault that I'm too retarded to understand your argumentshonestly it's sad how much of an intellectual featherweight you are in comparison to me lol. no wonder you like under composed repetitive music for babies. the chord changes in the average can song are on the same level as most pop music lmao
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>>120944You are literally too retarded to even make a coherent sentence lol. You're imagining patterns that don't exist again lol. You explained nothing. No argument existed. Like I said CAN had better songwriting and better pacing. They also had more distinctive riffs and vocals. It's really that simple. Your "argument" otherwise was bizzare reddit incel rage about nothing and weird insular ranting about cells and poronography. Idk what you though the topic was but none of that fucking shit was relevant. Maybe in your head but your head no work varhey goude.your "argument" was screeching because you are retarded. I don't need to give an honest non backhanded response to you rambling about molecular sciences and pornography consumption simply because those aren't even relevant topics to each other muchless music. You think they are but that's because you overestimate your own conceptual reasoning.
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>>120944>"honestly it's sad how much of an intellectual featherweight you are in comparison to me lol. no wonder you like under composed repetitive music for babies."Oh yeah. Everybody knows babies love "autistic screeching" with long form eurofolk and classical segments combined into a thirty minute jam rock format. Unlike Frank Sex Offender and his Skibbidi Ohio Anime Plot line band which is definetely for BIG BOYS…..
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>>120944>"the chord changes in the average can song are on the same level as most pop music lmao"It's about the pacing and sequencing. Frank Zappa just has nonsensical bullshit ones. Technically impressive sure but doesn't go anywhere. If you just want crazy chord progressions and time signatures then Magma and Gentle Giant did this far better as did early on soft machine. CAN isn't supposed to be wildly complex either. It's supposed to be evocative which is often d9ne best minimally.
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>>120944Also name a CAN song and name it's chord progression lol. You're just pulling shit out of your ass. All random platitudes you probably found on Wikipedia. But yeah the random skibbidi sport ohio constantly shitting notes at you thing was done better by Gentle Giant and Magma.
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You could have that and also have a sense of flow and have it work contextually which Zappa doesn't do. CAN does. I don't doubt they're not as technically impressive but the appeal was always their looseness and often nonconventional song structures. Zappa tripped over himself a lot trying to prove said "complexity" while other prog rock acts didn't always. Even ELP to my ears has more a sense of natural flow. Like idfk. Van Der Graaf Generator haha. But yeah. I just got off a job interview guy wasn't even there but I'm in contact now so that's chill ig. Fingers crossedan. Idrg what the fuck your on about bit it's whatever. Hopefully i don't end up living like you do yk but seems like it might go through.
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>>120962>>120961>>120960>>120958>>120959they've typed 5 paragraphs in the span of 10 minutes these guys are fucking crazy
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>>120963You're literally retarded and having a spazz out. I just didn't get a chance to respond sooner lol. That being said yeah i probably did. Idk. I just woke up prettymuch im kinda loopy still. I'll let it chill for a bit though.
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>>120963>>120965I had to reiterate because Dreammheater guy is a fucking downie and struggles with abstract concepts.
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Hope I got this job bros everybody wish me luck
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>>120959>with long form eurofolk and classical segmentsthe fuck? are you talking about when they just loop basic grooves over and over again? or do you mean classical as in modern classical and you're talking about random noise bullshit like soup and peking o? you're right that damo's screeching and the random noise would be off putting to most babies but in your own words that comprises a pretty small part of their discography. shit like oh yeah and mother sky seems to be custom designed to help babies fall asleep lol
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>>120983>"shit like oh yeah and mother sky seems to be custom designed to help babies fall asleep lol"
>Mother Sky
>of all the songs you could have chosen
>not sing Swan Song
>not future days Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh interesting but alright
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>>120983This is like a meaningless neckbeard conversation about you naval gazing prettymuch. Sounds like you do in fact hate melody and pacing lol. Hope you outgrow that tbh.
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>>120983>"are you talking about when they just loop basic grooves over and over again? or do you mean classical as in modern classical and you're talking about random noise bullshit like soup and peking o?"
>">"are you talking about when they just loop basic grooves over and over again?"No I meant like classical melodies and structures in thw conventional sense like on sing Swan Song or some parts of give me coffee or tea even.
>"are you talking about when they just loop basic grooves over and over again? They fundamentally changed the structures and standards of western songwriting while doing this. Nice blabbing as always though.
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How the fuck have you not even heard Sing Swan Song and you're talking about CAN? I listened to Muffin Man and en peaches regalia and all that bullcrap before making an opinion just for you to waste my time it feels haha. Not cool bro.
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>>121001those other songs apply too lmao, thank you for strengthening my point
>>121002> Sounds like you do in fact hate melody and pacing lol.it's actually you who hates melody, hence why you prefer music that has as little melody as possible compared to zappa, dream theater, periphery, beefheart, pete nice etc. which all have about as much melody per song as CAN't does per album
>>121003>They fundamentally changed the structures and standards of western songwriting while doing thisis change inherently a good thing?
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>>121007It's not but sure. I'm going back to bed. Fuck you too ig man.
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>>121007is change inherently a good thing?
See this I could actually respect as an argument but imo yeah. I like CAN a lot and I feel like they allowed music to progress past the point it was at that time. For me personally yeah. Whatever you see them as I do genuinely enjoy them. They make me happy when I'm happy and they comfort me when I'm down. To me at least absolutely even if I don't necessarily enjoy most of the bands that tried to copy them directly.
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I think CAN expanded both the study of music and what a song could be in ways that overall strengthened western songwriting. So yeah to me at least positive. Rhe Pete Nice thing was just random flippant bullshit as always not an argument lol. But yeah. To me personally? It was positive. They did. But yk I don't have a greater reasoning behind that one. They just make me happy inside.
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Beefheart being heavily melodic or any 90s rap being instantly makes this a hard thing to take seriously ngl. Treating that comment as a shitpost. But yeah I'd say CANs influence wa overwhelmingly positive in terms of expanding music.
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>>121007Those other songs apply at all mother sky doesn't. Sounds like you just didn't listen to mother sky from beginning to end.
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Also I meant those were better examples of what you're trying to claim. By which you already admitted CAN have depth and variation. Lol you're so fucking retarded geg.
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>>121013nothing implied that they have depth. they do have variation insofar as there are a couple of different things they do, steal funk grooves, make random noise, make repetitive music for babies to fall asleep to, make generic boomer psych bullshit etc. the thing is they're bad in all of these variations.
>>121012>Sounds like you just didn't listen to mother sky from beginning to end.honestly don't remember the last time I listened to that crap but it's entirely possible that I skipped it because it was too boring, maybe there's a random noise freakout at the end or something idk
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>>121011>Beefheart being heavily melodic or any 90s rap being instantly makes this a hard thing to take seriously ngl.tell me you don't know anything about music without telling me you don't know anything about music
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>>121014Skibbidi ohio retarded screeching incel blues lol
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Imagine being such a downie you thought people actually ENJOYED trout mask replica and not just said they did in order to sound deep. So anyway yeah CAN is more melodic lol. Don't need to really justify that just is. More conventional hooks. It's intended to be. Trout Mask Replica is intentionally more disonant overall than tago mago is.
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Imagine being this mentally challenged lol
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>>121058>More conventional hooks.right after you argued that change = good you're now saying that conventional = good. interesting
>Trout Mask Replica is intentionally more disonant overall than tago mago is.consonant =/= melodic
say what you will about trout mask replica but one thing it isn't is repetitive, most of the songs are loaded with variation and complexity. this is of course what makes it so challenging but if you actually focus on the music while listening to it it'll be a thousand times more rewarding than listening to bullshit background music like Can
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>>121063Complex shiis still shit
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>>121064it's more artistically interesting than baby music though, that's for sure
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>>121058>Imagine being such a downie you thought people actually ENJOYED trout mask replicaI enjoyed it, I don't really care about what other people think but in your case I can tell you don't like it because you prefer your boomer psych baby music
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evil rape ass thread π
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CAN sucks so much dick. easy listening baby music plus occasional random noise or boomer psych rock guitar solos. absolutely nothing redeemable about that crock of shit
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meds
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>>117779 (OP)Obsessed with Zappa award
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honestly I don't know why anyone would even listen to can, there's way better stuff out there from that era, such as the doors for example
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>>121113Paganism is about a reddit as it gets
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>>121113Wrong. Zappa fans would NEVER go outside
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>>121116you're thinking about Can fans
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>Can loving autist fucked off
even he knows he's wrong so he ran away lol, pretty pathetic but what else would you expect from someone who likes baby music
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Why the fuck is CAN so horrible bros? I've tried their whole discography and it's just nonstop shit, what gives? How could so many trained musicians fail to put out even one decent song?
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>>121174It's because they were obsessed with fake "composers" like Stauckhausen, having a homeless man be their singer didn't help either
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>>121063>>121117>>121202>>121174What did I miss? I'm back give me a second.
Rap Chungises
Using CAN in remixes
Saying Pete Nice being his own star witness
You see the CAN sample?
Yeah I'm right here
Helping writers for pitchfork getting laid for years
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>>121215fuck off, Pete Nice is a legend. show some respect
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Nah I'm pretty confident in that. CAN actually innovated while Zappa was just contrarian in a random for random sakes sense. CAN were more thoughtful in where they put things. They're complex enough and varied enough but complexity for it's own sake oftentimes end in a garbled mess which is my issue with Zappa mostly. CAN flows much more naturally. Much nicer songwriting. Etc. Gives it more time to let the air in more time to breathe. It doesn't need to be "as complex" as Zappa because they could get an idea across in 2 lines Zappa needed 20 for. It's more arguably how Krautrock streamlined things that made it so exceptional. The baby music thing is just you being a retard though. It might be hard for you to understand this but sometimes removing a sequence is as powerful as adding one. But CAN has a ton of technical stuff they just had more self control than Zappa did. Because it's more tasteful. While Zappa is verymuch without taste or without any sense of direction or refinement. So ultimately in theory sure but in practice you lose most of the song when you aim for zappaesque "complexity" versus when you play it in a way thst follows the "emotion" more than some academic theory. It's about creating something that grew and moved and changed with the viewer. Which I'd say CAN does well. CAN is expressive and organic sounding in a way Zappa simply wasn't.
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>>121216Yeah you two are spastic lol. That's why you can't sit down for anything genuinely long form. It's shit. You know it's shit and you can't refute anything I said because it's clearly true. You just have no social life and pretending you won a 4chan argument is the closest thing you can achieve to sex. Also why you hate the vu because of the psychosexual themes. For this with CAN maybe actually philosophy and not just Jordan Percacet or whatever you called him is just threatening idfk. But it's not a me issue haha. Muffin Man obnoxious as fuck. Most of were only in it for the money obnoxious as fuck. You just can't judge music well tbh. Which is fine. But yeah. Zappa was like the 60s equivalent to electroswing lol. Le quirky chungus bazinga dubstep for the 60s. Absolutely fucking tasteless. Complex doesn't equal good.
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>>121202>>121216Composers you're too dumb to get. If they were fake we wouldn't have had pop punk we would have had pop prog. Music history more or less proves that tonal shit was in fact valuable in practice. Moreso than your shitty anime Soundtracks and whatnot. But yes. They studied under him in fact aswell as others. That's why their music is so deep and varied and culturally rich. Things that Zappa was too interested in being le quirky and epic sigma to ever represent.
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>>121174>>121125Love seeing you have a spastic meltdown and talk to yourself. Sing Swan Song is still more listenable than the entire Zappa discography is. They could be fucking smooth when they wanted to be. Zappa couldn't. CAN were some of the greatest songwriters of that entire generation.
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>>121223zappa was influenced by real composers such as stravisnky and boulez, shit that your brain could never comprehend because it doesn't sound like fart noises. stauckhausen is a nobody and only influenced the worst musicians of all time (see: can)
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what's the best pizza in the boston tristate area nicoman i'm going there soon to see family
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>>121224you're confusing "smooth" with "boring", you want music that's actually smooth check out pete nice
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>>121226It's called new england.but yeah Woodys Pizza and Liquor,Pinochios,Cambridge Pizzeria,or Casa Pizza are all pretty good. I would also say Cambridge Pizza which is unrelated to Cambridge Pizzeria. Beantown Taqueria if they're still open is also pretty good. I'm thinking Fillipes too maybe. Idk I eat autost food probably haha. Trying to eat a little better though not yk get fat in my 30s.
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>>121228Give me a second I was giving a real ass answer to the Pizza question haha. I'm high as shit and did a massive think of rizzy proportions. I almost 67ed into the terrifying land of Mordhu Alberta. So yeah u completely fucking forget what i was saying. Andreas in I think Winthrop maybe is also good. Blue Moon Grill in Wakefield.
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>>121225I feel like you have no further justification for "real" other than that you like them tbh. Boulez wasn't much less atonal or experimental or whatnot than Stauckhausen was. He was pretty "modern" (for the time) too.
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>>121228I think you just might have an absolutely fried attention. Span and not be able to sit through something longer than 5 minutes ill be real with you.
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But yeah probably shouldn't have just given you all a bunch of restaurants I've been too but unironically all of these are rizzy and keyed.theres another diner or two im forgettings name.
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Mei Lings in Medford if you're in mass go there least imo.
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>>121231boulez wasn't making random noise though, he was actually composing music with notes.
>>121232no, I just like it when music actually has variation, and if it's gonna be repetitive it should at least be done well (an example of repetivie music done right would be Pete Nice)
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>>121265I question the objectivity around this statement. I'm not a very academic or music theory oriented type of guy I just get high and do tweedly crap I fully admit that. But staukhausen was still sefineteky a theorist. He had a lot of yk thought behind his music. I'm not a huge fan of him either mind you. He's OK. But to say that Stauckhauseen is random noise but Boulez isn't is wild. They either both or neither ngl. Least in my opinion. Personally all the stuff I've heard from him I've heard seems pretty structured. Idk. I do get your grips with some of the more "music conrete" sections of CANs work and I could see how those might be a bit overbearing. I mostly just listen to the stonerbait jammy shit though. I actually do like Peeking O and Amugun tbh,but I don't play those nearly as much as I do Musette or Stars and Lines which tbf you probably haven't actually heard or even like fucking Coffee or Tea more than those. Those like when they do that it's not my favorite thing either tbh. But yk that's not all they did. I think you just heard one song by them maybe lol. Lot of what you seem to think about their overall work just isn't true. Like Future Days sounds like a soft rock album pretyymuch. I'll give you that's some of their work and I understand you're probably not really able to fully sit some of that through. But that's not really their entire deal. I can understand not liking Amugn and Peeking O though which realistically is all you've heard by them even though you insist blah blah blah while spazzing so idk hahah. But realistically you've only heard those two. I mean I like fucking Entropy by them not sure if you'd fuck with that. But they did a lot ot shift like stars and lines where it's just kind or psychedelicy gaming and stuff.
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>>121265I question the objectivity around this statement. I'm not a very academic or music theory oriented type of guy I just get high and do tweedly crap I fully admit that. But staukhausen was still sefineteky a theorist. He had a lot of yk thought behind his music. I'm not a huge fan of him either mind you. He's OK. But to say that Stauckhauseen is random noise but Boulez isn't is wild. They either both or neither ngl. Least in my opinion. Personally all the stuff I've heard from him I've heard seems pretty structured. Idk. I do get your grips with some of the more "music conrete" sections of CANs work and I could see how those might be a bit overbearing. I mostly just listen to the stonerbait jammy shit though. I actually do like Peeking O and Amugun tbh,but I don't play those nearly as much as I do Musette or Stars and Lines which tbf you probably haven't actually heard or even like fucking Coffee or Tea more than those. Those like when they do that it's not my favorite thing either tbh. But yk that's not all they did. I think you just heard one song by them maybe lol. Lot of what you seem to think about their overall work just isn't true. Like Future Days sounds like a soft rock album pretyymuch. I'll give you that's some of their work and I understand you're probably not really able to fully sit some of that through. But that's not really their entire deal. I can understand not liking Amugn and Peeking O though which realistically is all you've heard by them even though you insist blah blah blah while spazzing so idk hahah. But realistically you've only heard those two. I mean I like fucking Entropy by them not sure if you'd fuck with that. But they did a lot ot shift like stars and lines where it's just kind or psychedelicy gaming and stuff.
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>>121265CAN also does actually have variation. You're just sort of dumb I'm not even gonna lie. You're slow haha. You're no telling me it has "autistic screeching" but no variation insane reach. If it's too free form and long form for you (because like I said you're a retard) it has variation. Good luck convincing other people you're not just a neckbeard though.
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>>121265You didn't like it because it wasn't quirky and forced enough. You can't process,appreciate,or notice subtlety. This is really just you being too stupid to get it.
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It wasn't jumping around epic tiktok styel like frank Zappa does and you couldn't sit still. It appeals less to you because you're a fucking idiot. You can't appreciate the ornamental touches. This is why gyatts won't run up your legs and dogs with rabbies won't bite you on Jam Wayne's Percocet Bottle.
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It's funny how much I'm triggering absolute fucking downies here with just being able to appreciate good mood setting and atmosphere ngl. Shame you can't do the same and almost actively search for the completely opposite to that in things like Frank Zappa and Hasbin Homestuck Runner or whtever.
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>>121265>"music with notes"Yeah amazing argument there. I'd like to point out that CAN also "played notes" aswell. Many notes. That tends to be something you do as a musician. I somehow think stauckhaussen was aswell. They might not have been "correct notes" (no such thing either sounds cool or doesn't tbh) but they were playing some notes. You might feel that a particular note sounds bad but it's still a note. Next time you want to say that they were playing "incorrect notes" as opposed to what you actually just said. Just further confirming your a drooling retard ngl.
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They might be like quarter notes or some shit but music without notes doesn't exist. That's just you being retarded. Too literally brained which is why you can't process that Zappa simply isn't listenable. It doesn't gel.
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>>121273so stauckhaussen isn't music then? same with several can songs?
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>>121281No I mean they're "playing notes". Every sound is a "note". There is no music "without notes". That's proving my point that you're just stupid and don't get it lol. You're talking about something that doesn't exist. Notes are like the "cels" of a song. They decide if something sounds like "baby music" or "autistic screeching" or not. The notes are all there. You're just underinformed. They could be playing notes which are considered the wrong notes by conventional standards but all sound could be transcribed into notes. So what you're saying just amounts to you being too fucking slow to even catch up to the conversation.
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>>121281Which CAN songs have you actually heard and which do you dislike? Because we've already established that you haven't even heard a full album by them. So I've heard substantially more Frank Zappa than you have CAN.
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>>121330>but all sound could be transcribed into notesnot possible for literal random noise
>>121331I've heard most of their discography, some of the songs off self titled are alright but the rest is shit
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>>121332Yes it actually is you're just retarded. Thanks for your "input" though haha. Unless it's John Cages 4'4 it has notes. If they played an instrument on anything it has notes on it. You can transcribe literally fucking any sound into notes. The notes make up a chord or a diad/power chord. It can be am incorrect note but it's still a note. So no. It is. You're just mentally challenged is honestly kind of what I'm getting here. So maybe since you're fucking slow you don't understand what a note is. But they're playing notes. You can transcribe the music that whales or birds make into notes aswell. You're just a fucking retard. I could literally bang random keys on a piano and those would still be considered notes. Like you've already proven yourself as retarded before this but lol.
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>>121332Literally fucking anything can be transcribed into a note. You're not understanding what a note is. Also lol no you haven't. I get you're a spastic and incapable of learning but you just haven't. You haven't even heard Stars and Lines. But more importantly you're too retarded to even understand what a note is lol. Btfo.
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>>121332The 1979 one everybody ele doesn't give a shit about? ππππ€¬π€¬π€¬π€¬π€
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>>121336>>121337then there is no distinction between musical and non musical sounds, in which case sure stauckhaussen and can are music, the same way that me taking a shit is music
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>>121344if can fans don't like something that's a pretty strong indicator that it's at least decent
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>>121351Bros still denying he's mentally challenged rofl. So anyway all music has notes in it prettymuch. Thanks for your input. You like it more because it's dumbed down haha. Makes sense.
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Meds and sproke, NOW!
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>>121355dumbed down? you're literally describing can lol
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>>121377>>121376You didn't know what a note is.
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>>121377Do you like any musicians other than Dreamtheater or Frank Zappa? Genuinely curious.
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>>121377I assume some other progressive rock at some point right?
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>>121405Pete Nice, Captain Beefheart, Periphery, video game music, Pierre Boulez, Igor Stravinsky, James Chance & the Contortions, and Mastodon just to name a few
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>>121407>MastodonMust be because of your Moby Dick obsession
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>>121408Wrong again moron, I started reading Mobby Dick because of Mastodon actually. Mastodon's approach to metal is complex and multidimensional and is very difficult for a human being who has no knowledge about the universe to grasp or understand it at the time and the fact is the same with all of us are very difficult for a man to understand. I wouldn't expect you to get it because of your own knowledge but you are a human and I think that you have a very strong sense that the world has been made up for you by the way in the world of the past so I don't know. Cells are the only things you need in order for them not the ones you want them for yourself to live on the earth and cellular energy is what makes them alive in a good life is what you want them and what they need you need you are not what they want to live in.
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>>121407forgot to mention The Doors and The Beatles
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Med your takes schizo
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>>121407Bro how the fuck are you still listening to Mastadon in current year?
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>>121412Had you never read Mobby Dick prior to that not like middleschool or anything?
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Also I got a job washing dishes again. We are so back nicobros….
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>>121407Which videogame and who is James chance?
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>>121438I like Lazy Smoke recently though. That's sort of inspired by them in placed at least (Beatles not the doors least I'm assuming) (heavier guitar and more of a focus on just being psychedelic though)
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Recently. Just based on sound I'm assuming Beatles and not doors although they are kinda garage. But recently Lazy Smoke a lot. Cool guitar work. Definetely inspired by The Beatles which made me resistant to try them since I shit on the Beatles so much lol. But some interesting riffs and overall ambiance. Recommended highly.
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>>121482minecraft, strong bad's cool game for attractive people, porn games. here's a james chance song
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>>121563>porn games>more homestar runner shit 40 year old man with an intellectual disability who thinks he's 14 and punches his mom type beat ngl. This confirms what I assumed haha. This is how you don't understand what a fucking note is.
Also not listening to that lol.
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>>121563Bro DEFINETELY a vizipop "fan" lol
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>>121584name one (1) contemporary animator who's better than vizepiop
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>>121583it's whatever if you don't listen to it, you would've been filtered by its complexity anyway. james chance's music took funk and transformed it into something that is a little bit of an art piece for the rest to appreciate the way the album was made by a very different style and style to what we were able and what it is now that the music was. what you'll never understand is the music is not what we are talking of it was a very good music and i love that for us and we love the way we can relate and love the music is very important and it makes me happy and we love the song so we are all so happy to be part and part and part and proud. but you know nothing about music so you'd never understand. so yeah, probably for the best if you don't click on that
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>>121478I tried reading it in middle school but it was too difficult so I just read manga and homestuck stuff instead
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>>121595Yeah that checks out.
>>121593Isk I'm not a mentally retarded incel so I'm not watching vizipop though. You loving Vizipop and hating VU and CAN certainly checks out though.
>>121594I'm doing a trial shift basically for a local restaurant. Yes I am washing dishes. This one is longer so I probably won't be about to give a real response til later tbh. From a glance doesn't sound nearly as bad as I was thinking it would least if your description us accurate.
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Lou Reed Voice:"Coffee spelled backwards is effoc."
So true sis
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"Damo Suazki explain our friend group!"
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Still waiting for a coherent explanation as to why both The Velvet Underground/CAN/Love/A-440/The Outsiders/similar and on the flipside British progressive rock bands weren't simply more directed and coherent than Frank Penis Guacamole Ohio was. Feel like I'm probably not getting thst though lol. BothLou Reed and Gentle Giant could write the entire Zappa discography but Zappa could never write theirs.
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>>121602here's your "coherent explanation": none of those bands had ANY vision whatsoever aside from do le epic boomer psych rock jams and make random noise occasionally, zappa was a genius whose ambition was to radically alter the rock/classical worlds for the better, fearlessly assaulting notions of "good taste" and violently deconstructing the artforms with his trademark composition style. you might call it jarring or whatever the fuck and that's fair because that's what it's meant to be. it's not about trying to sound bad but trying to challenge convention, and in doing so he ushered in a new age of music singlehandedly with his radical approaches. it's simply more interesting than repetitive bullshit like can, there's more going on, it has actual ambition, it's not just boomer psych bullshit or random noise but there's a concept behind it. zappa's music for the most part was not about creating comfort for simple minded baby music fans like yourself, it actively challenges the listener. again there isn't even a tenth of the conceptual depth in any of the shitty bands you listed, they were just making le epic drug music to help babies fall asleep and occasionally dipping into random noise.
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>>121597>I'm not a mentally retarded incel so I'm not watching vizipop though. she's unironically way better of an artist than any member of can or tvu
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Yeah, don't answer. That's what I thought too. You know, you've been proven wrong. You've temporarily lost the survival function of your brain cells and you can't keep your brain healthy and functioning, you don't want your body to function properly, and your body still behaves like an animal or a human with the same mindset. This is not surprising, because you don't know about sex tapes and you want to see a simple way to better understand what the world actually sees in the mirror, and here we are, on a planet that looks like a planet in a galaxy far, far away. You don't know who we are, you don't agree, and you don't understand why we don't understand what you know, why we don't do anything with what we know about the universe, there's a very simple explanation for that, you know, and most of it doesn't mean you don't understand, it means what it doesn't. The sex tape demonstrates this principle clearly, and if you don't understand it, it's not the same as the world saying, "You don't understand it," it's you who do. And I think you don't understand what you're thinking, you're less intelligent than an expert. You have the right to say "no", but I don't know how you misunderstood good people, but I don't know if you should, but you should know what you mean. That's not at all true about you, but you're right.
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What did I miss while talking to bitches and being employable?
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>>121616That's because you're an obese retard and it gives you wish fulfilments with zero critical thinking skills while CAN and TVU are actually engaging. But yes we know.
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>>121636Bro this is just schizophrenia. I garuntee you that neither your cellular makeup or pornography consumption had anything to do with this. Well….beyond the gigatard who thinks viziepop is art lololol.
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>>121616Every cellular boss episode is just weird gooner with fulfilment,needless appeals to retarded incel/gamer/reddit 2010s pop nobody normal still remembers foundly like mallsoft shit. And has an ugly ass clearly recycled art style. But your a tard and it's sad goonerbait so you like it. Basically a mix of like equestrian girls and anime with that digital circus crap. But yk you're like a fucking failure so ofc yk.
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*helluva (I can see why my phone thinks I meant to type cellular at this point though.)
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>>121636>"You don't know who we are, you don't agree, and you don't understand why we don't understand what you know, why we don't do anything with what we know about the universe, there's a very simple explanation for that, you know, and most of it doesn't mean you don't understand, it means what it doesn't. The sex tape demonstrates this principle clearly, and if you don't understand it, it's not the same as the world saying, "You don't understand it," it's you who do."I wish you could tell how incoherent and off-putting you are but then I guess we wouldn't be here to begin with.
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In their first game, the players played in a professional league for the first time. Cells are not a team, you have to play together to win the first battle. Empty space can produce some goods and services. The first time these teams played each other, it was the first game in which they played the biggest game of their lives in a tournament they participated in. Cells are not a raft, but they have to move together to maintain the raft. Cellular capacity can be thought of as a substance or an object or work, work and a substance and a substance or another substance and a substance and a substance. Cells are developed in such a way that they can organize and act based on the action of a stimulus through sound or a substance and its action. Therefore, as mentioned above, cellular respiration can occur simultaneously in movement and activity, because cellular energy requires such activity with cellular activity and activity, depending on the function and activity of the cell. Someday you need it to work behind a sex tape at work and at work and at work and at work and at work and at work and at work and at work and at work. Cells and work and work. You will also learn about cell culture at work, cell culture and repair, editing and video editing.
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The first game will be played by players. A bedroom is not a bedroom; They had to work together to win the first game. The first game will be the first for each team. This is not a team, so they have to work together to win the first game. Some products and services may not be included. When athletes play together for the first time, itβs one of the most important moments of their lives. When they first start playing, the team isn't a ship, but they must work together to keep their ship alive. Energy can be in the form of materials or processes, or processes and materials and materials, or other materials and materials, or materials and materials. Employers can provide resources and support. When these players face each other for the first time, it feels like the biggest game of their lives, playing against each other. Units are not ships, but they must work together to keep their ships alive. Physical forces can be thought of as objects, tools or systems, other systems, or systems of systems. Cells have evolved to produce and function in response to sounds or environmental conditions. As previously mentioned, muscle relaxation can result from muscle energy expenditure, and muscle function depends on muscle activity. Youβre going to have a tough day working behind the scenes of a sex video. Context, function, and action. Youβll learn about anatomy, physiology, biology, fundamentals, and construction. Cells move and respond to sounds or stimuli. As mentioned earlier, muscle respiration can occur through movement and activity. This is because muscle strength is closely related to muscle activity and must be balanced. Sometimes you have to work backwards. This must be done in a simulation. In the laboratory, you will also study muscle development, tissue culture, theater production, and animation.
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I watched pornographic films for the first time in my favorite movie, and that made my day much better and more enjoyable than regular movies. I'm glad I'm still alive. Then I listened to the book "Shaba," another book about sex, and it was great, so it was a little different, because I think the same applies to everyone, but it's different for people who are in long-term relationships with men who love and respect each other. That's what makes Shaba unique, and his personality was distinctive in my opinion, because I think it's great to be that way, and I don't think he was an ordinary man, so I don't know if he was attracted to another girl or not. He's nice to his friends, yes, but he can't say things like that; it's not normal for him, it's weird, I think he's too blunt. I don't like him, I think he's strange, but yes, he's "abusive."
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>>121654Just saying the same thing over and over again isn't an argument. That being said what the fuck is up with your friend? Like I know I was giving you shit too but is this guy like a fenthead?
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>>121657Bro you're not making it make more sense.
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>>121654Calling you unemployed and bitchless was a logic salicylic in some technical sense ig. I didn't really conceive it to be an argument though. But fair enough I guess on that one. I'm more just taken back by Molecule Pornography Guy. He seems like he's either very old with dementia or he's like a complete junkie I can't tell which. He's like genuinely disconcerting though.
>>121654Hasbin Hotel takeaway is fair enough though. Like I tried watching it and it's verymuch like discord admin or reddit user coded. It is culturally at very least on par with being obsessed with MLP or obsessed with Anime. Like everything I said there was true and logical. Fair enough on me calling you bitchless and unemployed although still probably factual ngl. But I guess that could be a logical falicy in a sense. My description of hasbin hotels humor and overall charecter design is just accurate though. It's like Discord Mod humor. It's shit fucking Dax would reference. You're tacky. You don't like The VU and CAN because they're not yk garish or annoying enough to keep your attention. They take introspection and concentration. But I also smoke a lot of Marijuana I fully admit that. Keeps me sane tbh.
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>>121654>>121649Like dude you gotta admit cell guy is just batshit insane though. Like either he's on fent maybe mixed with meth or he's sundowning. No way that's normal.
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>>121659the fuck do you mean "my friend"? are you schizophrenic or something?
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what is this fucking thread about
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>>121703Having sex with broomsticks, I think
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>>121708Physical energy can be thought of as materials, equipment, systems, other systems, or systems. The brain evolved to produce events and respond to sounds or stimuli. As I mentioned earlier, stress can cause the muscles to relax, and the muscles work according to their function. This isnβt too surprising, since you donβt know anything about anime and youβre supposed to understand with a simple sense of what the world looks like through a screen, and here we are on an Earth-like planet in a galaxy far, far away. You donβt know who I am, youβve never met me, and you donβt understand why I donβt understand what you know, why I donβt apply what I know in the world. Thereβs a simple language, you know, and it doesnβt mean you donβt understand it; It doesnβt mean anything. You will have tough days after sex. But that can be a good thing. Iβm surprised this guy is making sex. Vacancies can produce more goods and services. It was the first time these two played against each other, which was the biggest of their careers. The mind is not a boat, but you must come together to keep the boat afloat. Art can be thought of as something, something, or an activity β something, something, and something else, or something and something else. It looks old and stale or addictive; I see no difference. Itβs not very interesting to me. Definition, Operation, and Application. I donβt like it; I thought it was weird, but yeah, it wasnβt βbadβ. Art can be thought of as something, something, or an activity β something, something, and something else, or something and something else.
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>>121662>>121660>>121659once again, it's no one's fault but your own that you can't handle reading entire paragraphs at once
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>>121722I mean I can you're just babbling like a retard because there's something wrong with you
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>>121708People who really like dreamtheater tend to be the same people that do stuff like that I thinknis the real one.
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>>121702Sorry for assuming you had friends lol. Your little buddy over there.
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Notice how nothing in any of these posts has even been responded to lol
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>>121737Because it's the type of drivel that proves you're mentally channlenged tbh.
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>>121737It's not as brilliant as you're thinking. I'll say that haha.
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>>121741>>121742my dad is a scientist and he told me my theories are most likely true, keep coping though
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>>121772Does he actually exist? I'm ngl this entire interaction makes me think you're either a hard drug addict or have some kind of dementia or ig if you're not elderly similar cognitive disorder. Everything you said makes zero fucking sense.
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>>121772I can't say if it's true or not because it's completely unintelligible. But I'm leaning towards no because these topics all seem unrelated and you sound fucking insane trying to tie them together. I don't think CAN or Frank Zappa were discussing poenography or cellular structure thst much I have to say. Feel like CAN would have let do vocals if you told them all this though lol. I feel like Damo was not actually a Marxist and just using the band to circulate drugs. I think for me personally it speaks to my mood and humanity though. CAN is a lot more emotive and impressionist to me. It's less "logical" and more based on feeling than Zappa (or Dreamtheater) if that makes sense. It's about aligning the sex tapes with the cells in the competition or whatever more than Zappa is. It flows more on feel.
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>>121772CAN flows on the basis of "feel" more than strict academic theory which is probably I'm assuming something that was more damos idea than the rest of the bands. Without him it might genuinely be a lot more zappaesque and I might be insulting them aswell. But he was a grounding force I feel like. But other than him it's pretty yk.
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Imagine Pink Floyd mixed with Faust but with The Lead Singer being the one from CCR or Lynyrd Skynyrd except from Japan with Japanese Music but still basically like that sort of townes van candy John foghearty redneck trope. If you remove your racial stereotypes of the Japanese like pink Floyd plus faust but with a sort of rednecks inspired roots singer just more based on shit damo grew up with ig. That's basically CAN. That's the best I can explain it in layman's terms. That'd the least snide least condescending least combative least pretentious etc way I can put it. If you're thinking ots rock or that's more your think Chad Krodinger as the radiohead front man instead of Tom Yorke and his role is more to "ballance it out" or "bring it down to earth" than to directly "ad" to the ambiance persay. Damos role is more to like offset it. But if you accept damo as more of like a roots hard rock style singer but with some influences from Eastern spiritual music thrown in than a conventional psych rock vocalist and then see his role as more "bringing it down to earth" or "offsetting" the "pretention" than it makes a lot more sense. The band might be comparable even if that's not how I want to see it but he's not captain beefheart or Christian Vander. He's John Foghearty thrown in to almost "disrupt" or "bring down" the ambiance to give it a little more grit on the side. But other yhanyhay sort of "cerebral" like the other krautrock bands aswell as British bands like pink Floyd and the moody blues. That's basically like what I'm saying. The band might be comparable but Damo isn't an equivalent vocalist. He's an equivalent vocalist to guys like Ronnie Van Zandt or Foghearty even if the band itself is more art rock and more comparable overall to the Beatles or Zappa. If you accept Damos role as "adding grit" and making it sound overall LESS ACADEMIC prettymuch which I think it was.
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>>121775>It's about aligning the sex tapes with the cells in the competition or whatever more than Zappa is. It flows more on feel.what the fuck are you talking about lol
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>>121778>He's an equivalent vocalist to guys like Ronnie Van Zandt or Foghearty even if the band itself is more art rock and more comparable overall to the Beatles or Zappa.Yes, your genes are not part of your life, but they are connected to people. I can tell you in one sentence from my previous conversation how many people you talk to. The hands are strong, and you have an important role in a difficult situation, and the prisoner has something to tell you that will help you better understand what you want and what you want to do with your prisoner. That's the best way I can describe it in plain language. It can be non-violent, non-violent, non-threatening, etc. When you think of this music or approach, you might think of Chad Kroedinger as a radio host instead of Thom Yorke, whose job it is to "put" or "reach" the sound directly. Thames' work is enormous. But if you accept Tomo as a singer who sings hard rock but has more Western influences in her music and works in a "core" or "pop" style, that would be great because you can help shape and expand your musical style because the musicians you talk to are similar to you, or if they are musicians from Even Beats or Beats Sabbath. I don't have sex, you want sex, they don't have sex and have sex, I also matter because of sex, and you guys aren't friends, it's sex and sex, so I want to know more. Sex. Can you have sex, it's sex.
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>>121779The retarded drivel from earlier. You might be a different dude though.
>>121784It's not overtly serial it's more psychological but like internal than psychosocial like The Velvet Underground is. If you're the same dude though idefk. That shif about genes and porno makes zero sense. Unintelligible.
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>>121784Yeah I didn't understand ALL of this and I don't know who Tomo is but something like that. He works more in contrast to the rest of the band than a Captian Beefheart or Zappa or even John Lennon or even maybe Lou Reed would.
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The harsh vocals aren't intended as contrarian nor extreme probably but rootsy. It's just adapted by a Japanese man as oppose to coming from "redneck" traditions directly. I think you get it. We might just have different points of reference.
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>>121786Tomo is a well-known musician who works with bands in South Jersey, has bands in upstate New York, and plays concerts and events in the New York music scene that he loves. So he CAN be used in music. He has many instruments at his disposal and helps the band write their songs. He is also a great singer in a band that he would love to play with for the rest of his life. The album "Sex Tape" contains songs by Frank Zappa, and the music is amazing. The lyrics and songs in "Sex Tape" are all very well written, and that's what all their best songs are about. Cell culture and the music that comes with it are like cells in music culture. Cell roots are deeply rooted in their voices and their voices, and beautiful cellular voices can produce beautiful voices. Excellent cells.
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Tom is a well-known musician who worked with the South Jersey Orchestra. Sex is important to me, so you're not friends, but sex and sex, so I want to know more. Sex If you can have sex, it's sex. He plays in bands in upstate New York, he's been doing it for a while. He plays concerts and events in the New York music scene. He loves it. It's nonviolent and peaceful. Peace without violence. No terrorism. When you think of this music and this attitude, you might think of Chad Godinger as a radio announcer, not Thom Yorke. Q: Your genes are not part of your life. But it's about people. I can tell you from the previous interview how many people you've talked to. With a strong hand and in a difficult situation, you have to play a big role, and that's a big challenge. Talk to the prisoner a few times to get a better idea of what he wants and what he needs. Thames does a great job. But. Even if you agree that Tom is a singer who sings heavy rock songs. His music has Western influences, he has some Western influences himself. That's great because… The musicians you talk to can help shape and expand your musical style. Even if they're similar to you. So he says, "I don't want sex. You want sex. They don't want sex. I don't want sex either. Sex is important to me. You two are not friends. It's about sex and gender. So I want to know more. A great singer wants to sing for the rest of his life. Form a vocal group."
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>>121789Yeah see this is like I don'tfucking get and sort of stopped trying to interpret.
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>>121789That's very important. Your genes are like muscles, and music is like a muscle. The root of the body is related to the voice and the inner head, and a good head can produce a good voice. Thom Yorke was one of them. It is better if they are not a part of your life. But itβs about people. I saw how many people you talked to during the interview. Because my hands were heavy and I had a lot of responsibility in prison, it was very stressful. I often talk to inmates to understand what inmates want and need. Tom has done an excellent job. But while Tom calls himself an artist in New York, he travels farther. She performs and teaches with the New York Symphony Orchestra. I want to hear about it. It is violence-free and peaceful. Peace without violence, without violence. If youβre a musician, you can use it for music. The album "Sex Tape" features songs from Frank Zappa, and the music is great. The lyrics and music in "Sex Tape" are beautifully written and include some of the best songs. Radio controller. That's what's important. Your genes donβt determine your life. But itβs about people. I can tell you how many people Iβve interviewed. Because of the heavy hands and many responsibilities in life, it is very stressful. Tom writes songs and plays bass with the South Carolina Symphony Orchestra. Sex is important to me, but I want to learn more about sex and gender, dating. Sex means that once you have sex, it is sex. Tom is a musician and radio host based in New York, not New York City. "Sex Tape" is well written and has some great elements of a song. Muscles and music are like muscles. Bones directly affect voice and voice, and musical brain voices create beautiful sounds. The process is better. He interviewed prisoners twice. Thinking about this song and its lyrics reminds me of Chad Thompson, a famous guitarist who works with the South Carolina Symphony. Tom has done an excellent job. Butβ¦ Tom is a great musician. His music has both Southern and Western influences. Itβs great because β¦ the musicians you talk to can help shape and develop your music. Just like you. She said, "I don't like sex, I don't like sex, you don't like sex, and for me, sex is important to me. You two men are not friends. It's sex and sex."
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>>121791this shit fucking sucks man. baby music. I'd rather listen to something more complex like dream theater, at least that shit won't put you to sleep immediately
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Your genes are like needles, and music is like needles. The body is connected to the individual and the inner voice, and a healthy voice can lead to a healthy voice. Thom Yorke was one of them. If it's not your life, that's fine. And there are. Notice how many people I've spoken to during my interviews. Because I worked in prison and had a lot of responsibilities, it was very difficult. I often talk to prisoners to find out what they want and need. Tom did a fantastic job. That's when Tom dreams of being an actor in New York and going far away. He sings and teaches with the New York Symphony Orchestra. I'd love to hear more about him. He's nonviolent and peaceful. Peace without violence, without anger. If you're a musician, you can apply that to music. "Sex Tape" has music by Frank Zappa, and the music is excellent. The lyrics and music of "Sex Tape" are beautifully written, some of the best music ever written. Tom writes songs and plays bass in the South Carolina Symphony Orchestra. Sex is important to me, and I want to learn more about sex, masculinity, and love. Like sex. Tom is a musician and radio host, living in New York. When I think of this song and its lyrics, I think of Chad Thompson, the legendary violinist who worked with the South Carolina Symphony. Tom did a fantastic job. But… Tom is a great singer. His music has both Western and Eastern elements
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Can loving retard stopped responding because he was so thoroughly BTFO'd lmao. sad!
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>>121797No I just have actually things to do. Also you're clearly the one who's retarded lol. Most zappa fans are short of normal. You can't follow CAN so it sends you into a fit of spastic rage. Same way other people getting laid or finding employment does. Etc.
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>>121797Just more of you being a spastic who lacks self awareness. How the fuck you didn't know what a note is is beyond me. But no you watch Hasbin Hotel and touch yourself 24/7. I get that "winning" this is the closest you'll ever come to having sex but retards don't love CAN. They love the skibbidi Ohio blues by short form content replica. It's they you're not self aware enough to realize you make zero sense and are projecting out of insecurity.
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You don't see Frank Zappa or Trout Mask Replica Amime Fandom guys in work places I'll put it that way. I get why you need everybody to be retarded except for you like I get that's your thing but it's yk. Forcing yourself to listen to funny retarded screeching "music" isn't genuinely giving off that impression. But I'm sure you'll still say everybody but you is regardless if how many times I point this out. It's like exclusively mentally disabled people that like things like has in hotel and zolo.
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It's literally 90% special needs extremely high need people I'm imagining. You don't really run into guys who like frank zappa at work. I've never been in a smoke circle and had a guy put on frank zappa. I've worked with people who liked Jimi. Liked CAN and Magma. But this is just you being delusional. It's because you can't feel the rhythm because something in your brain is disconnected probably so you think him being an epic quirky changes hides this and is also the same thing as intelligence or belting out random notes as fast as possible is. You don't understand songwriting. But sure. Everybody is retarded except for you the special big boy dreamt heater fan. I knew one guy once in a work setting who listened to Dreamtheatwr and he was a creepy retard who liked made in abyss. He probably thought he was smart because he was good at math just like you do but overall not really the case. But Zappa you simply never run into a guy on the job that listens to that. If Zappa "appeals to you" (you feel the need to pretend to like him to feel better) than you're gonna probably not be yk. Most maybe not all certainly all but most frank zappa fans that still exist don't and can't work. Disability payments are what people like that are getting.
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Lol that you lack the self awareness to have seriously sad this. Skibbidi Ohio funny penis random number generator blues doesn't make you intelligent. Complexity only equated to intelligence when it makes sense otherwise like in the case of zappa or beefheaet where the song interrupts itself and has zero flow or sarcadian rhythm it's just convolution. I suggest discussing things you actually enjoy (no not beefheart or frank zappa) like maybe animals soundtracks or "sex tapes" again. The Zappa Fandom obsession is weird/off putting and doesn't help. I've met 2 like cognitively functional people both at the same bar and they probably just liked him because they're Italian and he's also Italian. Zappa superman's are useless. Trout Mask Replica Fans simply never appear in real life just online and in social services settings.
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said (yes ik unfortunate error but it's a new phone and I'm still getting used to it)
I also love that you're so clearly not capable that you don't understand the concept that I could just be busy. But yeah retarded screeching and retarded random number generators like skinbidi Ohio "blues" or whatever are barely music. You like it because you can't understand pr appreciate melody,rhythm,or pacing. It appeals to you because it's barely musical and not in an artsy way either. In a way where like if you gave a 7 year old extremely high doses of percocet and a 40 of malt liquor and they'd never played guitar before this is something they would create. People just bought his albums to mock him for his likely severe disability. Which you cannot pick up on because you're both like him and coddled enough now aswell as people being kinder that you simply can't see it. Virtually all contemporary critics and most contemporary music fans agree CAN is better. It's because you're slow and projecting that you feel the need to pretend to enjoy this. Your dad who showed it to you probably just does because he's like Italian which I guess I can respect but like most people under 50 who "like" frank zappa or dreamt heater are gonna be intellectually disabled. You can't tell that it "doesn't work" because you're not able to process music correctly. It's your brain not working. Same reason you like Dempa and Hyperpop.
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If this was 1800s or 1700s Germany you would have thought Wagner was "autistic screeching aswell". It's because you can't handle variation or texture and you need pretty colors and epic waifus to pay attention. It's like how you probably think tube songs are super clever and funny aswell. It's the hasbin hotel or helluva boss of music. In the same way what tube and the other suit you like is to anime. People who actually study music have never listened to spastic rart shit like zappa in their lives. Most of them have probably heard CAN and Velvet Underground though.
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It's you're filtered by actual classical music or European folk songs. It's that you're so sped you need everything dumbed down and streamlined and that's what Zappa was lol. Can't be calling other people retarded when you listen to Helluva Boss Music. Nobody else knows Frank Zappa Lore outside of people looking at hentai probably to look up Suzzie Creamcheese or Ella Guru or whatever. But without the gooner shit and shit flashing in your face ever five seconds you can't hold attention.
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>>121797But yeah I know I'm spamming but this is just delusional. Most Frank Zappa Fans definitely have some type of intellectual problem. The ones I met in Boston just pretend to like them/say they do because he's Italian and that's only two people I've ever met. Unless you are a townie who only knows about him because he was Italian then you're fine but like average Zappa fan doesn't have the attention for "normal music". He was experimental for the time I guess,and complex. The problem is his music is completely toneless and lacks any and all direction. So it being so complex and experimental simply make it grating without really giving any emotional appeal or context. The Velvet Underground,CAN,ELP,Gentle Giant,A-440 all the other bands I namedrop autistically "worked". They had songwriting. They felt like they had natural progression and motion. I don't hate complexity. I don't hate odd time signatures. I'm not literally Andy Warhol and Lou Reed would probably have been snide towards me aswell,but The Velvet Underground had songs which were genuinely catchy and memorable. Zappa did not. He wasn't capable of writing them. It's technically impressive but the music itself isn't strong enough to justify the technicality. This is why I pointed to both Christian Vander and The West Coast Experimental Pop Art Band as questionable or "problematic" by modern standards as they may have been. These acts both made complex experimental music which is still compelling,has a sense of songwritting,and is listenable. It's better to be generic or even stupid than try to be smart and fail which is what Zappa did. Directionless boneless music that master bates to it's own complexity. CAN we're academic snobs but they were trying to write coherent emotionally impactful tunes and Zappa didn't think that mattered. Modern critical appraisal and widespread influence prove that it did. So Zappas music has simply aged poorly from a compositional standpoint.
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Zappa is something people pretend to like to seem smart but never actually listen to while CAN has a fucking international audience. I doubt Fluttershy Zappa still truly has this. CAN knew they had to write actual songs sometimes so withstood the test of time.
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I just spat out my weed while typing this skibbidicels. Fuck my stupid rizzy autistic bpd pussy dishwasherchad Krautrockcel life. I start laughing and now it's in the fucking leaves. But yeah. Frank Zappa should have in fact done drugs or he should have chosen a different form of rock music to preform that didn't require him to do drugs in order to understand the concept tbh. Zappa somehow manages to be more directionless than guitarists who were on lsd or ones who were on heroin. Jim and Lou Reed and The Beatles were all nodding off half the time yet still managed to do this. That's because Zappa couldn't actually play. He was just an art theorist. Technically impressive yet totally soulless and with no mood or direction. I hope I can find that fucking joint broombros I'm fucking sad now haha.
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Also German Oak is in fact good ngl.
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Soft Machine and The Kinks are both genuinely have some good songs I'll give you guys that. Don't like all they did but pretty solid in the psych era. Zappa though nah that shit lacked proper direction or songwriting. Needed work.
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>>121807he didn't fail at being smart, everything his music is about is still relevant today, arguably even moreso. zappa's biting satire combined with his ruthless deconstruction of popular music still holds up amazingly today. this stands in sharp contrast to shit like TVU and CAN, bland forgettable garbage that was decidedly "of its time" and only has fans in autists who are obsessed with "retro" bullshit. basically the same as a guy in a leather jacket pretending to be into rockabilly. furthermore, their music is non conceptual and non stimulating to the mind, it's basically just slop
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>>121800the fact that you hopelessly miss the point of works like hazbin hotel, homestar runner, chainsaw man etc. is all the proof I need to know that you're severely disabled and that I shouldn't even pay attention to your opinions
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>>121822You're just repeating back shut I said in a no u format. The point of Hazbin hotel is to prevent gooners with brainrot from short form content from hurting themselves.
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>>121821He might not have possible but he failed with being coherent and creating something with lasting emotional impact. I was being flippant or maybe trying to be an asshole towards you but that's more what im actually arguing. The other shot is just me being an asshole towards you or dismissive. I think CAN were more concise and coherent. I would consider them to have far better pacing and songwriting. I would say if you want prog with odd time signatures listen to Loccanda Delle Fate or Magma. Or maybe Gentle Giant or Van Der Graaf generator. They might be needy too but their nerdyness is contained in something which is to me at least more organic and human feeling. More expressive and interpersonal. More breathing. So that's my opinion at least. That's where I stand. I think Frank Zappa didn't really go anywhere with it. Technically impressive but not very listenable or memorable. It doesn't have the same sort of ambiance to me. I can't get high too it as not very intellectual as that might be. You can pretend he's better but he wasn't enjoyable.
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>>121822How are Chiansaw Man and Hoemstar Runner even remotely similar? Because I've seen little parts of both and the series seem wildly disconnected from each other thematically. Sounds like you're just trolling.
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>>121821His music is not still relevant today lol. Nobody irl thinks this. It's because you live in a bubble and don't interact outside of soyjak party or 4chan. So you think he's wildly more relevant today than he actually is. Meanwhile Radiohead and Stereolab and all that ship was CAN inspired and Kanye sampled CAN and Pete Nice I guess whatever. Nobody is ever going to sample zappa and he's certainly not included on as many essentials lists. Maybe outsold them at the time but less remembered in real life among basically everybody except shut ins and maybe some people in Italy.
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Unless you're an Italian American or spend most of your life on 4chan and you're under 50 you're probably more likely to have heard of CAN than Zappa at this point. That's what's really the case. People in America talk about CAN and there are CAN album reprints widely sold at story's like Newberry Comics. I doubt they're selling that many zappa records in Germany. So if I as an American know who CAN are and have family that does but are probably only veaugly aware of frank zappa who is a domestic American artist then yeah. I somehow assume CAN won that one.
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>>121821>"zappa's biting satire combined with his ruthless deconstruction of popular music still holds up amazingly today. this stands in sharp contrast to shit like TVU and CAN, bland forgettable garbage that was decidedly "of its time" and only has fans in"The Velvet Underground had bitting satire. Frank Zappa had retarded poop jokes. Saying that the poopoo represents the racism at the core of America and the pee pee represents the teachings of ayn rand is not nearly as deep as you think it is and the lack of songwriting problems or cohesion make Zappas hot takes hard to take seriously. I'll admit that CAN were not trying to be very funny and are kind of intentionally grayish and almost brutalist sounding though. But that's their appeal. I wouldn't want CAN to be cracking snide one liners like Lou Reed or frank zappa did really. It's mournful and introspective. They're like The Werner Herzog of Music. It's supposed to be dire and overly dramatic. British Bands and US Bands were doing "biting satire" better. That's simply not where German Art is it's strongest is social satire. The deadpan presentation of an album like tago mago is part of its charm.
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>>121821>"their music is non conceptual and non stimulating to the mind, it's basically just slop"This is because you're mentally disabled. Nobody who's serious about music views CAN or The Velvet Underground this way lol. Literally just you being retarded ngl. Go comment "no u" again though. CAN are deadpan serious and almost entirely conceptual by design. If you didn't understand this you don't really understand CAN. It's appeal is how deadpan and grim and humor less and also how abstract and conceptual it is. These are what make it feel unique. These are what set it apart from an American or British band.
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CAN and The Velvet Underground were literally known for being overly conceptual and pretentious and alienating more mainstream rock stations and listeners in favor of appealing to critics. Like everything people complain about A24 doing. Completely out of touch and off base claim. You like Zappa because you're retarded and find shitting and farting funny like you're 12. The outside world believes the exact polar opposite of what you just said. Idk about CAN but WAY WAY WAY WAY WAYYYYYY MORE PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE VU THAN FRANK ZAPPA. THE VU ARE BASICALLY A T SHIRT BAND NOW AND FRANK ZAPPA ISN'T. They're viewed as heavily conceptual and also you're morelikely to meet someone on the street who has listened to them than frank. If anything Lou Reed could be criticized for "selling out" more than Zappa did. So no you're just shooting blanks at this point. If you dont get it that's fine though. But like 20 times more people who you run into irl have heard The VU and maybe like 2 times as many for CAN. CAN are obviously less popular than the vu but in a modern context where they're being shouted out by Bands people actually like or recognize and zappa isn't still less obscure compared to him. There isn't a zappa song in a recent beer ad anywhere and I am literally the foreign audience for this music in practice because it's from Germany. So if I as an American know who they are and have met other Americans who know who they are and most of said Americans probably don't know who Frank Zappa is it's yeah. But The Velvet Underground just is better remembered than zappa straight out if you talked to people irl you would realize this. CAN and Zappa might be more a toss up but can probably outedges him still since I've never worked with a zappa dude.
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I understand why you feel this way in theory but in practice CAN influenced 90s Alt Rock and Zappa didn't. So no matter what the sales at the time were or who came first CAN will always be more important. The sales don't matter just what artists picked up on. Because MR.Bungle was never a fraction as relevant as Radiohead because like Frank Zappa he was retarded poorly thought out cringe yeah. It's yk. Half of alt rock was just Bands trying to be like either CAN or The Velvet Underground and even if CAN or The Velvet Underground didn't outsell Zappa those bands they inspired definitely did. So in the long run CAN are way way way more influential and famous people namedrop them constantly and don't Zappa. That's just incels on the internet. Ultimately due to retrospective popularity in the 80s and 90s The Beatles legacy was also probably erased in favor of bands like CAN and The Velvet Underground aswell. Quirk chungu end of boomer music didnt age as well just like your favorite anime soundtracks won't.
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The proof is in the pudding because a black dude in the USA sampled CAN but a German Rapper is never actually going to sample frank zappa. Like idk really what else you're looking at. English Language Critics are namedropping CAN more than European Critics talk about Zappa now. So yk no. In practice CAN in today's world has a way bigger legacy. I don't care if The Beatles or Zappa or Captain Beefheart sold more. It simply doesn't matter anymore. That they came first doesn't truly matter either.
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More bands today are inspired by or sound like CAN so they're more important. You might not like this but it's the truth. It's just you and other weird incel type guys on sites like these discussing Zappa and still obsessing over boy bands. Actual musicians don't care about Zappa,The Beatles,or Captain Beefheart anymore nor do taste makers. Radiohead is more remembered than Oasis so CAN were more important. As much as I like The Outfield Post Punk outsold that shit long term so same thing.
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I will admit I like The Hollies but they're not more relevant than CAN in a modern context either. You're just a little sigma pogchamp so you don't realize it. But nobody else cares about Zappa or Beatles anymore.
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You may not like to hear it and the Beatles may still be more well known but zappa and beefheart certainly aren't and due to how old these bands are the actual sales numbers simply don't matter anymore. Raduohead outsold Oasis in the greater world outside the uk as did some post punk bands and nirvana sounded morelike the velvet Underground than the Beatles. You may not want to hear that but almost all rock since the 90s thus owes more to either the Velvet Underground or can than it does to the Beatles or zappa. That might be triggering to epic reddit jorden perlteroson fans but it's the truth. You can cry about it all you want but it won't change this.
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>>121837pete nice isn't black retard, and something being sampled in a rap song says nothing about its influence or importance. hip hop producers literally purposely try to find stuff in obscure records, It's called crate digging
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>>121841I never said he was. Plus I'm smarter than you lol. Go play with your hasbin hotel dolls.
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>>>121837 (You)
>pete nice isn't black retard, and something being sampled in a rap song says nothing about its influence or importance. hip hop producers literally purposely try to find stuff in obscure records, It's called crate digging>>121841
Oh OK I misread what you posted. Or I yk misunderstood it. I wasn't talking about Pete nice I was talking about Kanye West.
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>*says something widely accepted that everybody with an above room temp iq agrees on like that you're a fucking retard and the vu and CAN are more important than the fucking Beatles and zappa*
>you have a meltdown
You at least gotta admit nobody gives a shit ahout zappa anymore. That's just realistic. People at least know who the Beatles are fair enough. They don't know who zappa was. They just don't. That's no longer within cultural memory.
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>>121858YOU'RE INSANE. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!
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Bros probably bashing his fucking head into the wall squeeling in anger like a trout mask gamer. Can't imagine this freak has a normal life.
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>>121842suck my fucking dick piece of shit
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>>121837also the UK experimental hip hop group Meat Beat Manifesto sampled Zappa in this instrumental track
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>>121877Come join my circus
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test
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>>121885Mike Check
Ah ah
Mike Check
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>>121884the fuck is this random noise bullshit? I'm listening to Pete Nice instead
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>>121889Pete Nice Townie explain our friend group.
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So is this the progressive rock general thread?
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>>121891the fuck are you on?
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>>121832>Nobody who's serious about music views CAN or The Velvet Underground this way lol.explain the concepts behind their music then. and no, jourden pietersen tier pseudoscience about the primal subconsciousness or whatever the fuck doesn't count
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>>121892no its the schizophrenia general
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>>121898You trying desperately to spin it so that you weren't just too retarded to spell Jordan Peterson is still pretty funny lol. π stfu
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>>121898No seriously you could probably fucking use him. Go outside more stop living in your own filth like a hoarder and masturbate less. The only difference between him and you is that he's able to be employed and take part in society. Otherwise you're as bitter and sad as he was. Go ahead and pretend like that's not the truth tho. You're retarded.
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>>121898White Light/White Heat is about sexual psychology though. Like the entire album. So actually similar shit to what Jordan Peterson was ranting about I guess. CAN draws heavily on Eastern Spiritual themes or at least Damo Suzaki era CAN heavily drew on religious themes. Although like I said a lot of Suzaki lyrics also seem to be about Damo selling drugs to me.
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Fucking delusional moment on your part where you're clearly a sad virgin with rage that has limited conceptual reasoning and likes fucking Dreamtheater but you're saying this. Hide yo kids hide yo wife. I'm sure Jordan Peterson would agree.
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You can call him JeeJee Petershmidt if that's easier for you to pronounce. Go ahead retard.
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I bet you're obese.
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>>121916break down how Damo's literal random gibberish lyrics and screeching draw on "eastern spiritual themes" lol, he's just saying random shit. wl/wh is just shock value bullshit too, very little being expressed except for "holy freaking crap we're talking about drag queens and promiscuous women!!! doesn't that freak you out??!?", utterly empty and laughable in comparison to the brilliant satire pieces of Zappa
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This entire thread is the same person
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>>121946Lmao you're having a meltdown. It's obvious. It's the second half of tago mago. The vocal presentation itself is from Eastern spiritualisn.
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>>121946Zappa was a crybaby and all his songs are him screeching retardedly. You think damos lyrics were gibberish because you're racist. They were gucking profound. Read the lyrics to paper house. That shit is human.
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Zappas lyrics are literally just neckbeard fit throwing. Damos lyrics are profound meditations on the nature of existence. Look at the future days lyrics too although tbf those have the running socialist themes so prettysure the og cote band wrote them and not damo. But anyway thought provoking stuff. So is Mushroomhead. I was born I was dead. The nature of life existence joy and suffering. How you all came to be super right wing edgelords but gave no concept of these themes is beyond me. Zappas lyrics are just a matching throwing a fit. It's like "callous very upset" but callous a grown ass man. That's what zappa feels like lol. Just barely musical. Completely inconsistent.
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>>121964don't try to pretend like I'm the racist one here, you're the one who can't even into hip hop. I'm reading the lyrics to paper house and it's the kind of shit a toddler might say while rambling lol. again when you view everything through the jourden pietersen type glasses where everything is some symbolic archetype or whatever the fuck you can invent meaning out of those ramblings but the truth is that it's shit and anyone could do it.
>>121965>So is Mushroomhead. I was born I was dead. The nature of life existence joy and suffering.you think that shit is profound? I was born I was dead? what the fuck?
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>>121965Zappa's lyrics are biting and sharp characterizations of the absurdity of the world we live in. a lot of it is intentionally silly yes but in the same way a film like dr strangelove is silly, as ridiculous as it all is you have to face the horrifying fact that it is indeed an accurate description of the world around us. he isn't dealing in vague spiritual bullshit, he's strictly speaking facts
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>>121967>>121968They're sharply retarded lol. Lee peepee poopoo. Also ofc you're the racist one you're a spastic intelligent shut in. You don't take Damo seriously because he has very stereotypical English mistakes for a Japanese man. You're not giving him an honest chance because you hear how his voice sounds and you decided not to listen. I actually fucking work so I'm out here interacting with people.
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Believe what you want though man. I'm smart enough to know that I'm not gonna convince you of anything you'll be stomping your feet regardless. Callous getting very upset.
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>>121969>You don't take Damo seriously because he has very stereotypical English mistakes for a Japanese man.that's not true, I don't take him seriously because he isn't saying anything. and the way his voice sounds has nothing to do with his race, most asian people don't autistically screech like that. you're the one who refuses to give hip hop a chance and only listens to funk when it's being played by white germans
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Like if the point was to troll me you trolled me I responded. But we've already fldont the same fucking thread like 50 times. Obviously you're not gonna convince me of anything either. So I'm just kind of wondering what the point of this even is? Seems like you need more to do ngl.
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>>121971He is though. You're just retarded and can't follow along lol. Paperhouse and Mushroomhead are both about spirituality and philosophy and Sing Swan Song and One Lonely Night is about Damo hitting on fine shyts. She brings the rain is about some girl he's trying to fuck who's also a plug. The rain is probably lsd. Future Days is basically communist propoganda like I said. You're just assuming it's like beefheaet lmao. Anyway what I said still stands. No real point in discussing this. You need to get a job and some friends.
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>>121971That's not true. I like Funkadelic and The Brothers Johnson. CAN appropriated or "stole" more from the rhythm structures of Funk than like the melody or overall ambiance. Just not really the same experience for me. I'll agree they drew on it but it's different enough for me that I can listen to "real funk" and still listen to CAN. I will agree CAN had a lot of funk and soul inspired elements though. But I think they did it respectfully. It still sounds like a "bunch of german white guys playing". It feels substantial tally less like blackface by any realistic measure than TMR does. Can't believe I spent my last 5 minutes of break talking to you rip. But yeah. There's like we've had this conversation 20 million times. X9nt really see what you expect to change. Kind of pointless for both of us ngl.
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>>121972if you actually read my posts all the way through you would've been convinced ages ago
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>>121973Sing swan song is meaningless to you because it doesn't have any lyrics and you can't even say that in a sentence that you can't say that without a word in the sentence and it's just like you don't even have to do it yourself so I guess. Singing to a dog doesn't mean there are no words, because there are no words, because you can't put it into words, you can't put it into words, and you shouldn't think about it yourself. One more night also fails to deliver meaningful words to the people. It doesn't send any meaningful message to the people the next night, that you're not human, you're a cell that can't speak for itself or know what it's doing. People like you have no reason or reason not to live, but they have to figure it out for themselves to do it, and if you don't live, you can have them. I jerk to Frank Zappa because his music is not the only one who has no meaning and they have a good sense. I'm saying that Frank Zappa's music is not nonsense or memorable, and I don't think you can do it better than you.
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he already played the "this is pointless actually" card and now he's just given up entirely haha, kinda pathetic
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>>121977Bro youre so unaware lol. Im saying you need bitches and a fucking job. Delusional ahh response. Figuees an epic skinbidi trout mask wholseome crabeo thinms that though.
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>>121976Youre hqving a meltdown lol. Get ajob.
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>bitting commentary and it's that racism is bad and drugs are bad for you with fasting sound effects
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>fasting
Mohammed Zappa
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I appreciate you admitting it's not memorable in your confusion though.
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>>121980>You've been just the drunky hot bowlswoah, deep…
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>>121994another example of you missing the point entirely
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Can we talk about how the velvet underground plagiarized bob dylan and made their whole career out of shallow shock value? sick and tired of that shitty band
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>Hasbin Hotel not being slop meant for retards and people who jack off to mlp charecters
>Genuinely believing this
>believing that CAN is "slop" but not discord animes
Interesting
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>>122076Your points just come off as you not getting it or being a spastic lmao. Zappa was fucking stupid. His music sucked and you're an idiot. If you got some pussy you'd be able to stop trying so hard. Wish that for you. Gonna go listen to CAN now probably. Was listening to Uriah Heep but fuckit.
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>>122098When did they steal Bob Dylans lyrics? I will agree that they capitalized on shock value though. That i can definitely give you.
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>>122098Shock value yeah plagerizing Dylan not so sure about. I can see Lou Reeds vocal style being Dylan inspired but less some of the instruments like let's say Sunday Morning or Black Angels Death Song or The Murder Mystery don't sound much like Dylan songs. But I could be wrong. I'm not big into Dylan tbh. I respect him for what he did though. But to me not sounding super Dylan inspired at least not more than The Beatles,The Byrds,Ed Askew,Love,Jimi Hendrix,Jefferson Airplane,or a host of others. I'll agree that Dylan lead the way for much of the 60s though.
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Owes more to Dylan than CAN or Zappa do or Trout Mask Replica by Beefheart but that's more outlier than the rule I would say? Idk. I feel like most 66 or 67 psych releases still owed it to Dylan at least SOMEWHAT.
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Revolver,Loves First Album,some shit by A-440 all basically sounds like Dylan too. His influence only really weighed in like the very late 70s or early 80s. I mean I don't doubt it's true but I was assuming that was kind of just a given or taken for granted since The Beatles,Ed Askew,West Coast Experimental Pop Art Band,Love,Similar Hendrix,Jefferson Airplane,The Byrds all wanted to be like Dylan also. He seems passed by modern standards but at the time he was extremely relevant. Most psych rock had at least some influence from Dylan. I guess Cream didn't really. But like most of the other major garage psych acts sort of did at least. The Dovers kind of. Idk dude I think this is an impossible thing to ask haha. Zappa was one of the only early psych rock acts who actually didn't sound like Bob Dylan though so I will give him that. Pearls before Swine and Triane by The Beau Brummels and some Truck songs like the band from Malysia to my ears kind of do. The Dylan influence from maybe the mid 60s to mid 70s was strong culturally. He prettymuch singlehandedly created folk rock. So Zappa was prettymuch one of the very few artists who you couldn't say this about from that era of rock. Like I said maybe Cream too? But the norm was that these guys all started off as Bob Dylan rip offs or at least trying to be somewhat like him. Bob Dylan set the norm for music around that time along with obviously Choen. But yk yeah. Dead were also probably somewhat. It's not that yk.
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CAN,Captain Beefheart,and Frank Zappa are outliers for NOT trying to sound like Bob Dylan at all dudes. Almost every other 60s or 70s band people really remember tried. Maybe not Funkadelic and not Cream. Idk if Nico really did in her solo career as much maybe not especially not her core late 60s to mid 70s era solo. But yk. It was a lot. A lot of Southern Rock also kind of sounded like Bob Dylan. Cat Steven's probably. It wasn't just Psych. So that's yk yeah.
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Maybe not ALL but MOST bands from that time wanted to be Bob Dylan. I'm not a huge Dylan guy either I find his stuff kinda uneventful aswell but when you look at this it's very obvious.
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>>117779 (OP)When niggers is gooning, i dont remember why is this happened.
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>>122130Yeah you're probably getting brain damage from living like this. That's why you all hate CAN. Having Brain Damage probably "helps" you enjoy shit like The Muffin Man too. Problem solved!
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>>122106>>Hasbin Hotel not being slop meant for retards and people who jack off to mlp charecterstell me you don't understand hazbin hotel without telling me you don't understand hazbin hotel lmao. not my fault that the themes go straight over your head and you get fixated purely on the aesthetic presentation
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>>122138I think everybody but you can intrinsically understand why you're watching it better than you can otherwise you wouldn't be watching it. It's le fake edgy goonerbait about Similar themes to the my little pony cartoon and the main characters say FUCK a lot. Superficial religious themes with no depth to it and an awkward forced rape plotline plus art that looks like it was made to market shit to 12 year olds. Helluva Boss is also giving weird furry fanart vibes in terms of its awkward barely existent storytelling but it's more about the male character being Le woe is me forever alone and then softcore furry porn on top of that. You dont understand it otherwise you wouldn't want to be a person who watches it. But everybody except for you is more than capable of doing so.
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>>122138Le Quirky Frank Zappa Coded Dance Numbers forced in awkwardly in a way which Bollywood would have done better but instead of being for Desi Housewives (ππππ) it's for a Chris Chan Type Guy. It's what Zappa is to classic rock to harem anime lol.
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>>122163just as I suspected, you have no idea what it's actually about. you just see cute female characters and project your own feelings onto the work lol. if you actually watched it you might actually understand how wrong you are but you're obviously too stubborn for that
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>>122167Dammit. I can't believe that JimJam Peterson (the creator of third wa cc e feminism and work renowned lobster chef) said that! Surely I've been checking bamboozled……alright….tell me the lore ghuys…..π€π€π€π€π€
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>>122163>>122167Like this isnt 100 percent accurate lol. Get fucked.
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This is what caused Johnny Peterson to create third wave feminism after getting addicted to meth. Truly we live in a society.
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>>122167>"you just see cute female characters and project your own feelings onto the work lol."So close yet so far from developing remote levels of self awareness.
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>>122169it isn't, again if you actually watched it you'd know how retarded you look right now
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>>122193>>122197You're the one who looks retarded for watching it lol. Watched the first episode then turned that crap off.
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>>122193Mocking your retarded Pepeesan rant.
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>>122229big surprise, of course you can't grasp the themes because you're too much of a baby to even get past the first episode lmao. I guess you can only handle short form content huh?
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>>122231I grasped the actual themes lol. Its retarded goonerbait that you like because you've never spent a day in the real world.
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>>122231Bros trying so hard to just repeat back everything I said to him lmao.
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It was so sad and retarded that the cringe prevented me from getting past the first episode. Sure. No you dont have an attention span. You wouldn't need the funny quirk chungus moments to watch something if you did.
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Like it was painful to watch. I'm sure you're not self aware and dont understand why though. So dw about it. Moving on.
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>>122234this is the kind of excuse people give when they've been utterly filtered lmao. I'd love to hear your retarded reasons for why you can't into chainsaw man or homestar runner either, bound to be equally bullshit
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>>122247I gaunrtee nobody is getting filtered by an edgy cartoon for mentally challenged people lol.
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To most other people these shows are cringy and retarded. You're likely way too old to be watching them aswell.
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>>122247You wouldn't love to do anything. You have no joy in your life. You wake up play with your gacha games pass and shit yourself on the internet and then sleep or masturbate the rest of the day. You have literally nothing to live for. That's what causes you to act like this.
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>>122252you didn't get it so you rage quit after one episode lmao
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>>122254>>122253>>122252here's something shorter for your fried attention span, let's see you explain the themes of this:
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>>122268No I found it horrifically cringy and regrettable. It was so upsetting that I simply couldn't finish more than ten minutes of it lol. Whatever you have to tell yourself haha. Its BAD. I'm not watching it again.
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>>122269Bro it's like my little pony except they say fuck every five minutes. What exactly is there to get? Its edgy cringe with forced religious imagery. Not sure what you saw.
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>>122268I "rage quit" because the storytelling and art design were rageworty. Nothing I've seen has made me feel otherwise. I get that its like Le redemption through Le ebin hotel or whatever. I understand its about like spiritual redemption I understood that. I found the characters really annoying and didnt like the art though. It has the same energy as Ai generated hentai.
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If you don't become enraged when you look at shit like this something probably went wrong developmentally.
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>>122277>>122276>>122274>>122273forget about hazbin hotel, just explain to me the themes of this short film
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>>122279Nah lol. I already explained the actual themes of both helluva boss and hasvin hotel geg. You can accept that those are the actual themes or not. But I'm not watching that shit.
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>>122269>"fried attention span"Is it going to be funny retarded screeching like hasbin is? I'm good. There's other media longer than half an hour out there BTW. Like most movies. Not sure you're aware of this.
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>>122302>>122309stop making excuses, shit is like 7 minutes long. prove to me that you're not talking out of your ass or fuck off
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>>122309it's animated but I'd say it's pretty different from hazbin hotel stylistically, some similar themes though but I'm not gonna spoil it too much
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>>122312>>122322So its shorter than a substantial number of ELP,CAN,Velvet Underground,and Funkadelic Songs. Crazy how that works. Almost like Vizziepop shit just sucks and you're tacky.
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>>122322Tarkus and Karn Evil 9 are both like the same length as an average TV episode. Over 20 minutes. There's a substantial number of prog songs over 20 minutes. What the fuck are you even talking about here? Whole People Quelling there CAN song longer than whatever the fuck shit you're talking about.
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>>122312This actually sounds chill as ruck though. Might actually watch this.
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You got me. I would unironically rather watch whatever the fuck this shit is ngl. I wanna see the phantom dude lol. You got me here. But I'll like lyk. I'm just waiting on something. I feel like this will unironically be stonerkino.
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I'm gonna say offbeat wacky adventures between the two friends or colleagues and also the fear of the paranormal and maybe that which is beyond human control. But mostly its trying to not be "too serious". A lighthearted charming romp through a kitchen comic book like city. Get back to me when I've actually finished watching it I'm like a fucking minute in though.
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*comic book (I'm high as fuuuuuck lol)
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*comic book (I'm high as fuuuuuck lol)
The fingerprints moving could represent criminal injustice or manipulation of the law by the powerful. The spooky overtones could also be part of a conservative proto satanic panic thing. But this is not the intended tone I would say.
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Vro turned into a mammy lol.
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Shit has fucking blackface in it. Shadow dude could be a racist dogwhistle I'm way way way way too young to possibly understand ngl. Like something about crime maybe. Idk dude. I'm high as fuck though and thoroughly enjoying it ngl.
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Dudes a fucking bum with his head in the cloud. Shots fired i guess haha. Least I dont watch fucking hasbin hotel though.
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Twas all a dream.
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Yeah I know that was a lot of comments. Should have tried to condense that. All of the above in some mixture but not intended as a serious political or social peace just a lighthearted comedy bit likely for kids. Idk. I enjoyed it though. Would unironically watch this entire series ngl. Shits fucking kino.
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I know you were just feeding me a line but I actually do fuck with this show heavy. The whole series I'm guessing is up on YouTube? I had fun with it. Would like to see more. Its sorta abstract and floaty to me. Yk cerebral in a sense. But not too serious. Its cool. I enjoyed it.
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It's about futile attempts to snuff out a darkness that lurks inside of humanity. the phantom is a characterization of said darkness and seems to be present in every aspect of the world, and the main characters themselves both seem to appear as the phantom at times. the absurdity of this mission is revealed in the ending
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>>122385the ending also frames the whole thing as an inner struggle of sorts, existing entirely in mutt's head
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>>122385Ahh. Yeah that makes sense haha. Maybe I'll watch it again and see if that's more what I get. I'm getting FUCKED UP man so yk. I was mostly just watching that shadow dude float around. I was wondering if this was maybe partially inspired by the radio show series the shadow? If you're at all familiar I'd love to hear your thoughts. I might have a more "correct" answer when I sober up too. It was very spectral though. I enjoyed it a lot. Very kind unironically. I'm gonna watch it again with what you said in mind I guess that means I got btfoed but see if I get the same thing. Fucking send me more of these man what's the best episodes? You're right this is unironically exactly what I wanted all along i just didnt even fucking know it.
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>>122386>>122385See this shit is kino as fuck. This is what you should have lead with dude. I fucking love it.
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>>122387slick sleuths is the best one imo but some other good ones are skating instructors, soda jerks, playing with fire, and accidents won't happen
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Yeah no you're right its not as racist as I read it as being initially. That was unchairitabke and kibtarded but also understandable with the theme of "shadows" and the relatively offensive mammy archetype at least by modern standards. I would say that otherwise I think some of the other shit i said might be at play too. The shadow play with the prints on the paper. But yeah nah you're right. Honestly this was one where there's so much at play here actually as much as you tried to frame it as simple or stupid. I think this actually has some serious personality whoever did this. I like it more than a lot of things I've seen.
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>>122389Bro im watching fucking so much of this shit ngl.
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I'm not going to lie that was actually brilliantly written. Like you're talking like this is way simpler than it is. A solid piece.
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You were talking about funk earlier. Do you like would music too? If so:what do you think of The Friends of Distinction?
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*soul
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>>122394I don't listen to much soul and I'm not familiar with that group. I mostly just listen to Zappa, Dream Theater, Periphery, Beefheart, Pete Nice, Boulez, James Chance, Mastodon, anime and video game music, James Brown (only his funk stuff), cellular music, and Fall Out Boy
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If you know Mutt and Jeff, Zappaβs nuances will be obvious to you. Both are based on different foundations and more is neededβthe cellular and other cellular work done in the last two decades, based on our common sense and our ancestral instincts. The same goes for sex videos, which is the most common way people pose the question, and I donβt think we should be asking the same question. Also, with the concept of dream theater, at least at the cellular level, the cells have to do everything in a complex way, and I donβt think we have to do it just because their size is important. We have a certain definition of the question that we are not elementary things.
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>>122401I'm not gonna get into 60s Helluva Boss either lol.
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>>122433Cells are the only organisms that can get the energy they need, and no two cells are alike. The body produces or uses them to produce as much energy as possible or to synthesize chemical reactions that initiate other reactions in the organism. Cells are biological processes, and a process is the most complex and fundamental chemical process that can create a living organism. Cells are the only organisms that can produce biological resources for living things to use, to reproduce, to create an optimal life form, and to produce energy efficiently.
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The whole cells thing doesn't make you seem deep it just highlights that you're retarded BTW.
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Yeah that's irrelevant lol
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>>122437You don't understand the importance of brain cells in the body and how they function, because the brain has a very specific purpose. The body, as a living organism, sustains human life, as it is the largest organ in the human body. Cells are the only elements of the brain that require construction. Of course, they are not the only elements you can control, but you can dynamically modulate them to facilitate brain function. The human genome is essential because it allows the mind to better control the brain and the cells. The body is merely a means of creating an optimal model; it's the best possible. I can do a lot to help you, but that's not enough for me. You are in control.
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>>122438Ironically this sounds like some shit CAN would say. Kind of insane that your entire understanding of society and humanity is like this but you don't enjoy them ngl. Chain Reaction is basically about this.
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>>122438Like a lot of CAN lyrics about biological shit or serial psychology in there. Chain Reaction especially off Soon over Bulma.
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>>122441>>122440Don't give me that bullshit, no way the autists in CAN even understood a tenth of the shit I'm talking about.
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>>122444Its not bullying though its literally more or less what CAN were saying in the lyrics to Chain Reaction. Look up the lyrics dude. I'm not even fucking with you. Its about how sex is biological and how human serial activities are rooted in biological functions and shit.
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>>122444I get why you think I am because its an extremely niche topic but CAN in fact have a song about this.
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"All that she wants
Chain reaction, chain reaction
Can come in when it get so small
Chain reaction, chain reaction
Can come in when it gets reversed
Chain reaction
Chain reaction
Can come in when it gets so much
Chain reaction, time reversed
Chain reaction, can come in it when it's faced reversed
Chain reaction, can come in it when it's faced reversed
Chain reaction, can come in when it gets so small
Chain reaction, domino, domino, domino, domino
Domino, domino, domino, domino
Chain reaction, can come in when it gets so small"
Its about sex tapes and molecules lol.
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>>122444Half the shit you say is just insecure blabbing lmao. Funny you think Frank Zappa or Dreamtheater could understand that but not CAN. Fucking insane statement. I dont think you understand who CAN were.
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Also Biological Essentialism is probably the most autistic view of sex possible ngl. If you think otherwise you have zero grasp on psychology. CAN would probably agree. I think you just didnt like the second half of Tago Mago which is fine. But CAN had a lot of smart songs and thoughtful lyrics. You're just judging Damo Suzaki because he was Asian and not at all white adjacent or whatever tbh. If he didnt do the stereotypical l and r thing you'd be able to respect him. You assume its more "autistic" than it is because he's Japanese aswell I think. I'll even agree that the English is bad. But objectively the lyrics work. They're poetic. They have a vibe to them and a cadence which just works. Its magical. You're just not being open minded. Just because its not in "correct" English doesn't mean he was stupid.
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You assume its super autistic because its pretentious and veaugly technical so you're assuming its also like the shifty bands you like where the songwriting is de emphasized but its not. Now if you said ELP or RUSH were I'd get it but CAN really were more psych than prog. They were like the dead or pink Floyd equivalent for Germany. Mostly based around german music as much as you may argue with this. Although I do agree it has influence from Funk aswell as Soul Music on top of that and like I've said maybe some more "redneck" tendencies vocally from Damo. But yeah idk dude. I think you genuinely probably don't understand CAN. They're not aimless technical wankery like Frank Zappa or Dreamtheater lol. They're morelike The Velvet Underground almost for sure. Emotive. Bit trying to be "correct" more evocative.
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I haven't even been listening to that shit though. I've been listening to Quicksilver Messenger Service who in fact sing about girls a lot aswell as cowboys and cars. Im pretty sure that's a conceptual thing too mind you. Like they're the most jungian hyper Freudian interpretation of Americana possible. They bravely wrote songs about what would happen if The Lone Ranger and Tonto forced your one true love to crucify you at the haunda summer sales event by nazi Jesus whos a standin for christian nationalism after you let the football team (peace movement/no nukes) down.
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Fucking everything in Quicksilver Messenger Services Music either represents Jesus or something sexual though that's just like a given. Or its sociopolitical and a stand in for some type of political ideal. But most of it is either unironically from Evangelical Protrstantism or it's Freudian. Songs about fucking and also Mormon Jesus.
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People underrated how conceptual and abstract QMS were tbh. Went over people's heads at the time. Jordan Petersons Zorro lol. Seriously though way more so than The Dead honestly.
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The Amazing adventures of The Lone Ranger and Jordan Pewdiepie π―π΄
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>>122455this has nothing to do with molecules or sex tapes
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Literally everything is about le ebil Christian nationalism Jordan Peterson tier self improvement psychology with lots of phallic references or mass media psychology. People at the time did not process or appreciate the thematic depth of QMS. The whole Lobster thing unironically would apply to them. Or its like yk. I guess probably left wing but unironically like male jungian psychology shit plus American Christianity bad cowboys good. Joseph's Coat is a great one by them. Quicksilver Messenger Service.
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>>122461>>122460>>122459Quick's Silver Messenger Service is autistic bullshit as well, those retards had no idea what cells are guaranteed
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Quick's Silver Messenger Service and Stauckhaussen are both prime examples of pseudointellectual bullshit that's completely divorced from cell theory and molecular sciences. Slick Sleuths is basically what those spergs were trying to do except actually decent
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Yeah idk bro. All this shit about abstract evil and poenography and molecules and Jordan Peterson is making me think you'd actually enjoy both The Velvet Underground and CAN a lot. I'd say Quicksilver Messenger Service too. you dont have to be left wing or german or even approve of drug consumption or anything to enjoy CAN nor Amon Duul ii. Shits just good music tbh. Crazy to me you dont like some of the bands I mention unironically.
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>>122465Dude have you even listened to them? Also fucking mental that you're implying Dreamtheater aren't "autistic bullshit" literally their entire thing is public masterbation same with Zappa. Vander was at least self aware enough to give that a Freudian or Jungian Edge. If there's any real conservative subtext in Magma that's probably where its the strongest. Its Molecukar Jordan Peterson Rock though. Same with CAN,Amon Duul ii,The Velvet Underground,and Quicksilver Messenger Service. I think if you can appreciate Zappa which obviously i dont its a lot of those same themes lyrically and conceptually with a lot of different psych and prog bands. Idk bro. I think you just need to hear more bands. You like The Dead at least right?
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>>122467it's because those bands are just talking out of their asses and have no idea what cell theory is. they don't understand the nuances of sex tapes either. all of this is obvious and for that reason I can't take their bullshit seriously
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Dude you're missing out bro im sorry. So other than Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart what other 60s 70s bands do you rate? You can't tell me those are the only ones lol. Extremely sad if true.
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>>122469Bri you're literally intellectually imapired haha. No that's not actually obvious to anybody else. I think you might find the level of psychosexual themes threatening actually. Or maybe just some of these themes more generally.
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>>122469Dude Quicksilver Messenger Service how is that not better than Zappa to you? How do you hate THE VELVET UNDERGROUND AND CAN!?!?! AND NONE OF YOU LIKE TED NUDGENT OR JIMI HENDRIX!?!?!? Blasphemy.
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>>122469How many bands would touch on a topic like that AT ALL other than CAN? They were singing about some pretty deep topics.
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>>122469Sex Tapes or just sex? I feel like Frank Zappa understood the nuances of the former better than the later. Dude was fucking cringe lol. Vander I'll give you was autistic as fuck probably but he got bad bitches. He was French lmao. They're just all more Chad and less incel there i think. He'd probably studied the Jordan Petersan π―π΄ π.
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Also fucking no way was Dino Valente that autistic rofl he was like some Townie who was in jail half the time for drug possession. I'm pretty sure the point of QMS was for Dino to get pussy. That being said thematically and lyrically its clever and witty. I think it stands up. He really did a good job at relating everything back to either Jesus or his cock lol. Gigachad Catholic Self Crucifixion Music with a overarching like Spaghetti Western theme I guess. You're underestimating them. Shits more pop art than the velvet underground were.
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Some of it is like Evangelical Protestant sounding and some of it sounds eastern or like Budhist or Daoist inspired but a lot of it is also Fraudian/Jungian and thus inherently sexual. Some of it also seems to be drawing on mass media and marketing psychology. A lot of it is about sex though just not explicitly. A lot of it is like psychosexual themes through by the numbers pop marketing.
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Dino was like an ex convict dude. Totally a band formed just to get pussy tbh. Still genius stuff. I think he got arrested on like high quantities and intent to sell.
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>>122477>>122478>>122479if any of this were true then he'd probably actually understand cell theory instead of just making up random shit
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>>122481See my previous comment. Also no the average guy coming out of prison isnt talking about fucjing cell theory. You're absolutely fucking tapped.
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>>122481Genuinely retarded response. I garuntee you fucking cell theory isnt coming up regularly in jail.
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>>122483my dad is literally an excon and he's the one who first introduced me to cell theory
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>>122494Is he the chemist?
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>>122494You gotta be trolling with this
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>>122495he's a scientist yeah
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>>122497Your dad cooks meth and maybe makes lsd?
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>>122497There's no way you're not trolling.
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>>122498>>122499fuck off, I'm not gonna give too much information because I'm not doxxing my own dad but he's a natural scientist
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>>122498imagine being so drug fried that this is what you immediately assume someone is talking about when they say someone is a scientist
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>>122506>>122524You're making no sense
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I like how we realized we were making zero fucking sense and simply stopped blathering lies about nothing. Wish you would do this more.
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So anyway zappa had zero songwriting skills and made music for retards with fried attention spans lol. Hope that helps. CAN were doing like 30 minute jams same with QMS.
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>>122573zappandidnEXTENDEBD JAMES YOO YOU FUCKING IDIOTBSOMENOF YEIIHISN SONGS ARENOVVER FUCKINGBB 20 MINUTES IN LENGTH!!!!!!
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ficlogms REtarards sdpoesm
't knmwo that Zappa has made seregveral siongs that ago well into the 10+ minute mark befcause she's onlky heara ts like two songs by ZZAPPA bevcause he's a fucking idiot swho only listens to fuckngb baby music like CAN or else he has to turn it off imemediately because it's too complex for his stupid earsz
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>the autist ran away because he was BTFO'd so hard
lol, pathetic but not surprising
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>>122583>>122578Extended Jams β songwriting
CAN were also better at both. They had more natural flow lol.
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>>122598>"the autist"I wish you had remote self awareness. I really do. But yeah lol. Half that was fucking unintelligible. You like Zappa more because youre stupid which is fine.
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Its dumbed down enough with enough hasbin hotel ahh ahh funny sidechatecters for you to pay attention. That's why you like it better. CAN had actual songwriting and were good at it. Zappa didnt. His only songs with any semblance of structure or theme are his shitty doo wop filler numbers.
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You keep saying this over and over again but also while having like fucking obvious meltdowns. Its a weird contrast.
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>>122614Can's songwriting sucked dick, simple baby music plus random noise
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>>122619You're repeating things you dont understand lol. The Muffin Man and Bochi The Creamchese are NOT making you sound as sophisticated as they think you are. Maybe if you were less in a constant state of tard rage tbh.
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>>122619I just hear crying. I think it makes you angry that other people like actual music tbh and not just funny retarded screeching like your "favorite" "bands" do. Zappa isnt really that funny or clever. Just shrill and obnoxious. Never wrote a song like Paperhouse or Sing Swan Song for sure. But maybe if you stop being such a faggot maggot that might help you appreciate it as well.
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Bro I was fucking tripping lololol. Why would I be running and hiding from some angry snazzy who thinks Larry The Pimp is high art? Get a life lol. You're like one of those guys who's 40 and still thinks Rick and Marty is funny.
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Maybe if it was My Ex Wife's House by Can't you'd enjoy it more.
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Put on some Viagrahead by CAN'T for this miserable ahh Ohio blud.
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>>122624>>122623hey fuck you asshole
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>>122636Incelhead by CAN'T
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Damm you've been fucking quiet the entire time I've been doing employed shit lol. I guess you finally realized?
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>>122714I was doing a chainsaw man marathon, not that you would know anything about that since you can only handle short form content lol (unless it's repetitive music for putting babies to sleep, but that might as well be short form too because there's as much content as a sub two minute song)
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>>122758Least youre not pretending to fucking work anymore hahaha
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>>122843it was my day off fucking moron
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I was being a contributing member of society. Maybe Zappa wouldn't be so obsessed with Ayn Rand if he was capable of a hard day's work.
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>>122844Every day is your day off. There's no way you work.
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>"it's repetitive music for putting babies to sleep"
>"autistic screeching"
Not sounding like your claims are even compatible lol. You're probably too stupid to put that together though. Also yes. The point isnt to constantly throw shit in your face. It's intentionally sparse and intended to set mood. However there are definitely CAN songs with eya more variation than this. You're just exaggerating because youre too spastic to sit through it. Its an intellectual issue.
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>>122849yeah you're right that the autistic screeching would make it bad music to actually play for a baby to fall asleep to, but the point that their "music" is boring, simplistic, and repetitive still holds true
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>>122893I mean youre retarded so thats probably the issue lol. Good job admitting they have range though. Zappa doesn't. I know that was hard.
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>>122893>"but the point that their "music" is boring, simplistic, and repetitive still holds true"It doesn't though. You're just a low iq retard who needs shit spammed in their face constantly lol. Plenty than enough complexity there.
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>>122893Imagine if you actually weren't such a weirdo defect bug person that you'd genuinely known that without having to think about it then hide behind a veneer of snide condescension like im not completely aware you're a clueless shut in bugmam who can't come to this assumption naturally.
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>>122907I wouldn't consider alternating between boring bullshit and random noise to be "range", they just have two modes and both of them are shit
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>>122937Anyone with a bigger brain than you actually would though. But youre too retarded to understand CAN like we already established lol. It's "boring to you" due to low conceptual reasoning and attention span. Nobody is getting lit listening to the shit you do.
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>>122937>>122909>"both of them are shit"That proves nothing.
You dont understand what range is lol.
Remember when I had to explain what a note was for you?
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>>122937Also classic rock style riffing and very early ambient bits and shit that sounds like us acid rock. So no they have range lol. Amun is nothing like Simg Swan Song. You're just too retarded to sit through it and Zappa keeps your attention because it has "funny" shitting jokes and epic waifu side characters. That's alright. But nobody or very few people actually want to get high to that crap. So yeah its you're not mature enough to appreciate it. Is what it is.
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>>122893Once again:
Imagine if you actually weren't such a weirdo defect bug person that you'd genuinely known that without having to think about it then hide behind a veneer of snide condescension like im not completely aware you're a clueless shut in bugman who can't come to this assumption naturally.
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Zappa was Guy who believes his coworkers are his actual friends type shii. Makes sense he was pro capitalist haha.
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>>122961what the fuck is your point? my coworkers are my friends, do you think that's impossible or something?
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>>122984We both know why thats the only one you responded to. Also no they're not.
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Also like I dont believe you even have a job. I just dont. Unless its cybersexurity I could believe that.
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>>123023yes they are you fucking idiot
>>123024I work at burger king
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>>123030If you work at Burger King they probably wanna get a paycheck then fuck off aswell ngl.
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>>123030Im guessing you wash dishes too? Same man. Shits fucking slow today too haha.
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>>123042nah man we riff all the time and I even got some of them into dream theater and ZAPPA
>>123044I mostly do drive thru
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>>123046Ahh fair. I guess they dehydrated really have that at the type of places I get. Its more back of house roles. Or not the type of restaurants that have drive throughs either. Regardless a busy wensday is rare haha.
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>>123051we got slammed out of nowhere around 6, but yeah up until then it was pretty dead
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>>123051The truth of the car business is that you donβt need to be a driver to make money in the first year, you need a car to make videos for your friends, your friends, and your family. A man can hold only one finger and they are different, while others raise one finger. What do you say? Itβs true that you donβt need to become a truck service driver and make the most out of your first year in business, you need a truck to take videos with your friends, friends, and family. The best part about sex videos is that they can help you figure out who you are, what you like, and how you interact with others at work. Now, think of car service as an opportunity to have fun with your partnerβ¦ Sex toys and porn are not your gender in relation to your sex and hormones, but your body is different from others, and you have to live with other bodies that you understand to be male and sperm. The great thing about videos is that people get to see who you are, what youβre passionate about, and how you interact with other people in your industry. So think of car repairs as an opportunity to have fun with your partnerβ¦ Sex tapes and videos are not your penis as much as you can be with your penis and hormones, but your body type is different from other people, and you have to be human to connect with other bodies to be a man and be a cell. The good thing about sex videos is that people can tell you who you are, what you like, and how you interact with other people in the workplace. So think of car restoration as an opportunity to have fun with your friendsβ¦
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>17 hours
>no reply
I think it's safe to say the CAN autist has been officially BTFO'd lol
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>>123068Holy shit fucking same.
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>>123181I got trashed and ended up sleeping until 2pm then I got high.
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>>123181I've been awol for a while. Give me a bit.
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>>123139The first part where youre talking about owning a car to succeed in the car business makes sense. The second part seems goonery and mentally ill.
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>>123139>"Sex toys and porn are not your gender in relation to your sex and hormones, but your body is different from others, and you have to live with other bodies that you understand to be male and sperm. The great thing about videos is that people get to see who you are, what youβre passionate about, and how you interact with other people in your industry. So think of car repairs as an opportunity to have fun with your partnerβ¦ Sex tapes and videos are not your penis as much as you can be with your penis and hormones, but your body type is different from"Are you implying im transgender? Im completely lost here. You need to back 5he fuck off lol. I didn't ask for you to talk to me about this shit.
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>>123212Can't handle facts? Pitiful.
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>>123222It just made no fucking sense tbh. I'm not sure how to respond.
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Definetely a correlation between the furry shit and frank zappa ngl lol
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>>123241try reading it again, maybe do it a little slower this time lol
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>>123241Not surprising that you struggle to read paragraphs, no wonder you get filtered by Zappa and Mobby Dick, it's simply too advanced for someone like you lmao
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>>123244Most sane people would hear you listen to Muffin Man and assume you were mentally disabled lol. Im good bro.
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>>123243Spastic retard freaking out over kids books angry that he cant get laid trying to mirror back things he doesn't understand. Yeah you're the peak demographic lol. Gonna roll up a j and listen to can in honor of you right now haha. π€ͺπ€ͺπ€ͺ
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>>123244>the funny chungus peepee peee>I hate women toilet skibbidi Wow thank you Zappa! So deep and thoughtful….
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Everybody else read Moby Dick when they were 12 lol. You're emotionally stunted. You're emotionally stunted and trying to superficially posture as more intelligent than you actually are. 90%+ zappa fans explained right there.
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>>123243It was a retarded meltdown. There's nothing to process. You're connecting unrelated points. Already CAN had an entire song about your whole cells sex tape idea on Soon over Bulma. This is undeniably a theme on Chain Reaction. Paperhouse is (ironically for the overarching communist themes) about self leadership and realization. You can only make what you are capable of within your own mind. Keeping your despair is also psychological within a german cultural context. Much of the "autistic screeching" is taken from east Asian spiritual songs which Damo Suzuki grew up with. Its not about complexity or even "correct" musicianship asmuch as it is supposed to be evocative and rousing. Similar to the way in which (once again maybe somewhat ironically) Richard Wagner Recorded. Quicksilver Messenger Service sing about self actualization or realization tok but through more of a psychosexual lense. Boomer Lobtard Jordan Peterson with The Cowboys being standing for the internal male ideal. It is both Jungian and Fraudian imo although tbf my overall knowledge of philosophy is limited which I do want to clarify. Thats not a "hard point" and I could very well be wrong. But basically like you can only be what you are able to actualize within your mind your id yourself your soul. Thats what Paperhouse meant. Tbf this could be Marxist aswell in a sense of anti consumerism. Maybe apply that to sex tapes or rare and valuable funkos or anime figurines or cars or really any form of physical media. Famous was like I said less Marxist than the others. I think he basically saw the band as a drug front probably. Brilliant guy though. If you guys were more open minded I think you would appreciate both his brilliance vocally and lyrically. He could actually go bar for bar and went hard as fuck. Damon Suzaki was cool. Zappa was a cringe ahh discord blud they just didn't have a wider concept of that yet and the masses found him amusing. I know thats elitist as fuck. But CAN simply hold more meaning. At least to me.
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>>123244I do understand Zappa though. He was critiquing/mocking the hippy movement. It's actually a critique of drug culture and how the government uses it to pacify people. It is also a critique of the mass media and their sense of "fake rebellion" or willingness to cooperate with groups like the cia let's say behind the scenes. He believed in a less peaceful revolution lol. Thats also probably why he was against psychedelics and weed but no alcohol consumption. Saw it as pasifying people etc. Probably correctly assumed that a drunk mob would be morelikely to fight with police etc. So probably he was low-key an insurrectionist. Some of it is also a critique of how white artists appropriate black ones. Like Watermellon in Easter Hay maybe is a commentary on white rock artists drawing from the blues and how that was like enforcing racial stereotypes. I don't want to hear that shit though ngl sounds like fucking ass.
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Peaceful Protest being non effective in Zappas eyes too on like that one song on were only in it for the money or whatever. I'm like not actively giving Zappas Mysic a chance again because I've given it enough chances. But you probably know which one this is better than I do anyway.
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Why are you pretending to enjoy Zappa lol. Is it because Lou Reed was gay? Or the thing with Nico being a racist? I know its not a genuinely held opinion I'll say that. Or if it is i would say understanding zappa might not be,but seeing how somebody could actually enjoy this might possibly be well beyond my genuine comprehension. Obviously that doesnt prove it's bad. I do get the themes and some of what he was trying to say. I will admit I'm not big on theory in my own music. But I honestly just don't enjoy it. I think CAN,The Moody Blues,Jimi Hendrix,Magma,The Velvet Underground,The Rising Storm,Index,Pearls before Swine,The Kinks,The Hollies,A-440,Love,Es-Shades,Soft Machine,Funkadelic,The 5th Dimension,Shocking Blue,The Friends of Distinction,Group 1850,obviously CAN made better music. I think Ted Nudgent did too if you only like Frank because he was a conservative ngl,although I understand he wasn't exactly making stuff meant to provoke much thought. But I like his guitar playing better. Black Oak Arkansas. Gentle Giant. Blah blah blah blah etc.
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So yeah I understand the lyrical themes and what hes trying to do kinda. I just fucking hate it. The actual appeal is completely lost. I think Zappa made some of the worst shit I've ever heard. It just doesn't hit at all for me I guess. When I listen to Zappa I don't FEEL him yk? It doesn't breathe or feel alive in the same way. Its not as evocative as other bands from that era were,obviously this is just my opinion. But it doesn't make me feel in the same way. Idk. I also just kinda found a lot of his stuff to be genuinely grating. I couldn't see much appeal though. I understand the themes. The music itself idk if I didnt understand it but it still lost me. Don't enjoy it simple as.
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Zappa doesn't resonate emotionally. His art feels lifeless. I don't doubt that its all heckin technically impressive whatever but there's no feel. It doesn't land. So I simply don't get as much out of that. Sort of like Dreamtheater in many ways. Or how some people just feel about Prog in general. It doesnt his music itself some of it is kinda banal tbh but a lot isn't that its just pointless. Idk.
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>>123257I don't see the game in my eyes, I know how to be a good girl or a bad girl. You know, you don't know what that means, but you know what you want, and I want it. The sex toy's name is Zappa and trust me, that's not a problem for me, so I'm a woman, I love it, but you know what you know, you're nothing, you don't know it and you have no good reason for it. This is nonsense, cell phone music is the best music I've ever heard in the world and I'm very lucky to be alive right now and I love cell phones and because cell phones have a special meaning, the music has to have a heart to make it louder and bring it back to the heart of the world.
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>>123292I do. It just sounds like you learned about sex through ebin sex tapes and zappa lol. It makes you sound even more like a fucking retard. I doubt you've ever seen a woman named in real life. You should quit trying with the pseudointellectual bullshit. Not clever just obnoxious.
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>>123292Good girl is like obedient bad girl os like "naughty". You're mot special for knowing this. You watch too much porn and have never seen a bitch get naked lol.
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>"so I'm a woman, I love it, but you know what you know, you're nothing, you don't know it and you have no good reason for it. This is nonsense, cell phone music is the best music I've ever heard in the world and I'm very lucky"
This is some Lord Babylon shit lol
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Unironically no lol
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>>123335>>123336>>123337>>123338You're fucking retarded lmao. No wonder you don't understand Chainsaw Man or Hazbin Hotel, this shit is going way over your head. Let me guess, you've never even watched a sex tape before?
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>>123339Nah that's deifnetely you. This has to be the most sped crash out ive ever seen. Sorry for not responding sooner. I was working. Guess thats not something you could understand though. You're a man in his 40s and your obese lol. Stop fucking playing.
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>>123339Let me guess,spastic meltdown at gamestop because you've never had sex before? Yeah prettymuch lol.
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>>123339Also all these properties are meant to appeal to retarded people with bad hygiene. You're genuinely fucjing slow lol. Nice try tho.
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>>123348Here are the facts: Your cells lack proper respiration, as evidenced by cellular function. And you have far fewer normal cells in your brain and body to keep them alive than you do in your current body. In fact, your brain doesn't function properly because its function is internal to the brain, just like a normal brain and body. You have a little brain that controls your life. The brain has no brain structure, so many brains are hundreds of years old. And having a brain that is more complex than a brain cell is not a good thing. The brain is more functional than the brain because it does more than brain cells. So, the brain, and the brain as cells, are more useful than the brain as a whole. That's why you misunderstood Zappa. Brain Function. The brain is also the most complex part of our body. The brain is also a function of complex cells and complex systems, and it is very important for you to understand that. Big Brain, simple brain.
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>>123347>>123348Your cerebellum has cells that are in your blood, but your body is not part of your body, and your blood cells will not function properly if they do. Your little one has blood cells, but your body doesn't, blood cells don't work that way. If those cells are working properly, if the blood is in the body, then the body is still, you can get blood from the body. That's because of your little brain. You are a good support for your immune system, so the cells can function locally without any problems because the cells in the blood are working. All of that is caused by your cerebellum. Then you have your brain, your organs, your healthy blood cells, your organs. And you are a good dog to your body, to your vital organs, to your organs, to your organs, to your organs.
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>>123356>>123355You're a tard lol. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>123356>>123355Bro everything about CAN takes higher thought processing than Zappa. I explained it pretty well that's why you're melting down. Its poorly composed and inconsistent.
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>>123355>"so many brains are hundreds of years old"This is in fact not the case. I get you're too slow to conceptualize this but those aren't functional brains they're preserved but they die with the body.
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>"That's why you misunderstood Zappa."
Lol ok. I understood him better than you did haha. Its a very awkward/stunted/forced attempt at social commentary that's extremely ham fisted and awkward with zappa oftentimes interrupting the music itself in a way that feels unnatural. Most people who unlike you aren't downies don't feel the need to like it. So your projecting your own extremely correct insecurities onto me. If you weren't mentally challenged you wouldn't be talking about Frank Zappa to begin with. The only reason we still are is because you have no friends. This has more to do with you being at risk for suicide than Zappa tbh. The wolf girl from Hasbin Hotel isn't real btw. I guess most Zappa "Fans" are just forcing themselves to anyway though. Like no it's definetely an awkward attempt at social satire. Reminds me of some of those shitty vtube songs.
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Zappa wasn't capable of having a normal job. Thats why he made skibbidi ohio im so lonely gooner music. CAN were just genuinely fucking good musicians on the other hand.
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>>123403>>123402Didn't even address 90% of the points I made and you're still incapable of understanding the ones you think you can address lol
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>>123415You didnt make any you just screeched like a retard about unrelated shit lol. The whole cells thing is a nonsensical cope and proves nothing about the quality of said music. Also CAN literally wrote a song about this idea which ofc Zappa making retard music for retards (you) never would have done lol. He was the k pop demon hunters or helluvaboss music of the late 1960s. People only liked it because at the time it was novel. Now it isn't its painfully commonplace.
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>>123415Retarded blabbling and fit throwing. The genes thing is a cope because you're a fucking defect. The music you "like" is stunted and doesnt flow naturally. CAN has more of an organic sense of mood and flow. Thus it is better.
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>>123415I addressed plenty. Its a reddit incels idea of deep social commentary which is ofc stilted and dumbed down so zappas just stopping the fucking song and lecturing you instead of allowing for an actual sense of like motion to occur.
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>>123415Literally having a meltdown because I addressed them and explained why only braindead retards think this crap is deep lol. Its not. Its observations any fifth grader could make. You think its deep because you're slow. Same reasons you cant tell that it lacks natural pacing.
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>>123419Listen, idiot, cells are the only way for us, and the other two cells in our body are not so different from the others, so they have a different structure than us. The most likely reason for the difference in your brain is the cerebellum, and the other organs that you use the most are the most obvious, and you understand this best. The cells of the brain are structured differently from the other organs in your body, so they are more sensitive than other cells and therefore less sensitive to them, and they can do things that we would feel ourselves, and we are not so sensitive.
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>>123423Abnormally large, tightly packed cells tend to interfere with cell growth, and cells that do not do this tend to have a lower growth rate than non-cells. The cerebrospinal fluid volume of vertebrates tends to be higher than that of normal cells, and cells provide a clear way to describe how cells and their cell cycles interact, as described in this article. The CAN song you keep mentioning fails to understand this and therefore cannot be taken seriously, they fail to understand that cells can only survive at the cell surface level in the body and that cells must be able to function within a specific niche for specific conditions, and the only way to do that is through the cerebellum.
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>>123423>>123424Retarded meltdown. You can't even tell me what I dont "get" about it lol. This is based on your ins3furity around being a thirty year old animecel manchild
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>>123425That's because you're not even replying to my points, how am I supposed to explain what you misunderstand about them?
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>>123423>>123424Sounds like you know a lot about being deffective genetically haha. I gotta get back to work. Lmk when the obvious dawns on you. None of this is directly related to music and most zappa fans arent functional society members tho.
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>>123427It is related retard, you keep mentioning that stupid CAN song and I'm going into detail explaining why the reasoning in those lyrics is completely retarded. This retardation on CAN's part of course contrasts heavily with the thoughtful and witty lyrics of ZAPPA
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>>123428>>123426Bro you literally talk like a spastic lol. OK ig. I gotta get back to work. I'll catch up on your sad screeching later. Very Zappaesque BTW.
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>>123428Its not. You think it is because you're "special". You cant even explain why you like Frank Zappa lol. So you're reverting back ti having a meltdown. Which tbf is also what Zappas "music" was.
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>>123429Another cop out non response lol, what a surprise!
>>123430I've explained several times how the abnormal pacing that you always complain about enhances his music, how his compositions are simply more advanced than most other rock music (especially the shit you like), and how his lyrics were witty and actually meant something, unlike CAN's autistic screeching and occasional pseudoscientific quackery.
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>>123428Nothing has. Wen explained in detail. Im just assuming im gonna get contacted by the cops one day and theyre gonna tell me you killed yourself is what im getting. Yeah ig if I was like you id feel the need to hold onto this one aswell haha. Let it sink in like I said. I explained zappa in perfect detail. Its spastic incel screeching shit for people who think hasbin hotel is funny. What you need to do is get a fucking job.
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>>123431 Nah you didnt. You had a retarded little meltdown where you stamped your foot and used your angrey meain worhds. It was very zappaesque.
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>>123432>>123433I have a job retard, and here you go again ignoring the obvious points I'm making to debunk that shitty CAN song and instead dismissing them as a "meltdown" or whatever the fuck because you're too stupid to actually pick apart and respond to the arguments being laid out. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad lol.
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>>123434This is literally a meltdown haha.
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>>123434Suicide Prevention House by Frank Spastic
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>>123436>>123435Yes every person who has ever disagreed with you was simply just having a meltdown, that's totally how the world works
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If Tago Mago was by Frank Zappa it would probably be about filling out a job application,showering,or watching something that wasnt goonerbait lol. "LE TV EQUALS SHIT!!!" is not a deep sentiment. I dont doubt you think it is.
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>>123435>>123436You don't even have a counterargument to anything I've said lol. I'll just accept this as you conceding to all of my points and admitting you're wrong. Sex tape.
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>>123437That's not at all whats happening. Youre clearly in tard rage. This is by all conventional standards a meltdown. But sure. Tell yourself thst ig.
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>>123440>This is by all conventional standards a meltdownI'd love to see you break down all these supposed "conventional standards for a meltdown"
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>>123439>"Sex Tape"This is just proving you're mentally retarded. No idea what you think your accomplishing by continuing to say this. I already believed you were a 40 year old virgin. Don't have to prove this.
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>>>123440 (You)
>>This is by all conventional standards a meltdown
>I'd love to see you break down all these supposed "conventional standards for a meltdown"
This is everybody else's impression of you garunteed. Thats why you like Dreamtheater and Frank "Sex Tape" lol. You just lack the awareness to see it.
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>>123443>>123442Fuck you retard, you're still not saying anything. No actual arguments found here, just pathetic deflecting and dismissal. Laughable! Sex tape.
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>>123444Yeah im really sorry I dont like 60s and 70s Rick and Marty haha. Have you considered getting bitches and finding employment? Might cure these bizzare behaviors that cause i mean cause I mean cause you to pretend I mean pretend to find enjoyment in this "music".
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>>123445Another ad hominem, laughable. No wonder you're so into CAN's pseudoscientific lyrics, you're not even smart enough to recognize pseudoscience. You know nothing about logic.
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>>123446>>123444>>>123443 (You)>>>123442 (You)>Fuck you retard, you're still not saying anything. No actual arguments found here, just pathetic deflecting and dismissal. Laughable! Sex tape.None of this is an argument it just proves youre at risk of suicide tbh
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>>123449Why would I need to make an argument in response to you not making an argument?
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>>123452I gotta work man. Keep spamming out though lol. Your being very zappaesque.
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>>123452I made an argument. I pointed out how banal zappas failed attempts at social satire when he had no concept of the real world were. How obnoxious and stilted his awkward attempts to fit in felt in the context of his music itself. You were just too slow to keep up.
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>>123452I mean you'll just spam the same funny words scream and have a meltdown anyway no matter what I say though lol. But I went through it over several paragraphs. Why not you just tard out though. Seems like what both you and your hero were actually best at.
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You can keep responding BTW. Nobody believes your busy pr working. You were doing this shit at 3pm on a Monday lol. Your ass is definitely not participating in society.
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Damn that shut you the fuck up fast huh? Lololol. So everything i said about Zappa is basically true. Insulting me because I'm an autistic surprisingly didint really change that. Hard thing to hold against me too when you're thus celebate and this funko pops coded,but alas I guess every guy like you has to convince themselves they're a "misunderstood genius". Two fucking hours after your meltdown and its still radio silence lol. So once again I do understand Zappa. It's failed social commentary that comes off as both hamfisted and awkwardly conflicting with the music in a way that completely interrupts the flow. Unlike CAN or Magma or Peter Grudzien who were all able to work subtext and text in subtly without actually stopping the song to rant like an incel. Zappacels will surely never recover. 2 fucking hours haha.
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4 hours now. Still no reply. Vro thinks he has a job on cap.
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6 fucking hours since I pointed out the obvious
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>>123480Obvious? You mean the fact that you don't like ZAPPA because you don't understand cellular music and you're retarded? Yeah, I guess that is pretty obvious. Sex tape.
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>>123490Lmao you got btfod so hard by the unemployment comment bro dont even lie
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>>123490>"Celluar Music"Please seek psychiatric assistance
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>>123497>hurr if you like music that I'm too retarded to understand that means you're le schizo Fuck off, we both know you tried listening to cellular music and got filtered immediately. That's why you've dedicated your life to endless seethe. Pathetic. Sex tape.
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>>123527I understand it perfectly. Its an awkward failed attempt at social satire with zero pacing which is constantly interrupting itself to prove how superficially technical it is and you like because because you're an unemployable retard who has probably been arrested at gamestop lol. I liked when you were being quiet and not a bitch. That was nice.
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>>123527>"cellular music"CAN literally have a song centered around this psychosexual concept direct. Zappa doesn't. Thats because Zappa was a little tard with zero job experience and a stick up his assassination just like you.
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Shawty Lo of the rap group D4L once said: "Big up to all my haters"
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*ass (good thing he wasnt killed he was trying to genuinely help people but he made fucking ass music)
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>>123536Im at a bar in so im not playing that on my phone just yet,but if you like send links ill check it out later man.
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CAN were good dudes too though and also didnt play absolute dogshit. They could songwrite in a genuine sense. Zappa could not. Tbf I do enjoy Emerson Lake and Palmer but they have a charm which Zappa I strongly feel like lacked.
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i dot know bitch i dont listen to rock music, i listen to Lil Wayne
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ELP feel human. They don't feel nearly as like disconnected. I like the humor. I know that's not like a musical element but fucking they just have charm and spirt to them. Zappa doesn't. I can veaugly appreciate that he helped popularize odd time signatures in rock music ig BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE DEAD THE BEATLES CAPTAIN BEEFHEART ALL DID THIS with VELVET UNDERGROUND BEING A REALLY BIG EXCEPTION IN TERMS OF EARLY ART ROCK in this sense. And on top of that im prettysure other bands were just also listening to jazz and or classical tbh. But regardless I feel like Zappas influence is negligable and his music simply isnt good. Doesn't work in context. CAN were a well oiled machine.
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>>123541My dad likes that haha. I think i like prog rock partially because he's condescending towards it or thinking whatever. Like my parents were gen xers lol. So part of me just liked elp to piss them off I think and all those other prog bands. But like yeah dude idfk. My dad likes Lil Wayne but hes alright.
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>>123541Im on my third bro. You send me what you think his best song is ill listen to that too.
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>>123541Three Jacks and Coke to the face. Socialist Libtard Hyperboria let's get it fucking started. I love the reds I hate Klaus Schwab I hate Olaf Schulz.
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>>123542ELP were surpassed in every way by Dream Theater, anyone who knows anything about prog knows this and doesn't listen to ELP's obsolete music
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Nothing clever to say to that huh? Thoroughly BTFO as always
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>>123550Nah I already said everything i needed too. Youre a fucking retard. The superficial technicality of Zappa does not in any way match the sublime brilliance of CAN.
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>>123548I understand that viewpoint from a technical standpoint but I'm a male stoner from new englsnd lol. Elp were more immediately post psychedelic. They have more the mood that I like.
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>>123551ELP is more fun stoned than Dreamtheater is. I know thats stupid but its true. Had more color more personality.
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>>123551You've never explained why you get filtered by cellular music so hard, only dishing out non arguments and cope lol. Fuck off with that shitty CAN song too, that's not real cellular music, I tried listening to it and I had to shut it off within ten seconds because the random noise was so annoying lmao.
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CAN is wwy way deeper than Frank Resdit ever could be man
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>>123555The concept of cellular music doesnt even make sense youre just intellectually disables tbh. Like unironically and probably severely. But im repellent by Frank Zappa because his music feels completely inorganic without any natural sense of flow. Thus making it a chore to listen to.
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>>123555You cant understand CAN because youre a fucking retard. You dont understand the conceptual element of the music.
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>>123555This is literally n just eusiinal on your part. I gwt this is coming out of insecurity but 90% of beefhearts music is random retarded noises. It doesn't flow naturally whatsoever. I get your a tard and an incel,you make this extremely obvious. Give it a chance to set in though and at least certain CAN songs cam be the chillest shit you've ever heard.
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>>123555>>123555Like i know you're not the same mindset and I get yoi won't respect this but im not asking you too:I AM REALLY FUCKING WASTED RIGHT NOW. So if you want something mor reasoned now is probably not the time. I find Zappas style of satire to be obnoxious and dont feel like his musical style is intuitive in the way can is. Im also more into the vu than Zappa. But I dont hate the aolean scale or odd time signatures if thats your idea of complexity. It's more the way he presents it that "triggers me" ao autisticslly. The complete lack of mood or melody or temperament or rhythm is something I cannot get into. Im even a metal head but I would rather r listen to nu metal and trve European 90s balck metal aswell as thrash than I would death metal aswell. Also Power Metal Crust Sludge obviously. But like Zappa might be le high iq reddit idfk. It just doesn't capture my imagination. I get the concept. I don't like the execution. I find it jarring and grating. I think both Magma and The Velvet Underground among others did similar better.
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>>123555But like theres a limit to how seriously I can respond atm ive been fucked up all day. But I do not care about theory only practice.
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Once again if you hated the "autistic screeching" in CAN you would have hated Wagner back in the day aswell. Just not that sophisticated tbh. But if you're not a dumbass incel bitch you wouldn't really need to be this or that to understand it either. Its something definitive which you can feel in your soul in your chest. That's what makes CAN so great. Not what notes they actually played. Not what time signatures it was in. Its the abstract.
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>>123560Listen up FUCKING ASSHOKE!!!!! CAN and the fuckigns iVELVE TET UNDERGORUND had NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK THE YWERE DOING and ended up makign shit that was equal parts BORING BABYA ABY MUSICSIC and RANDOM NMOISE BULLSHSIT!!!! "Music" that wasn't REMOTELY CELLUKLAR AT AlL and COMPLETELY LACKING IN CELLULAR THEORY to the point where it's embarrassing for them to enven make it!!!! Yiouir a FUCKING IDIOT for listeningto that NON CELLULAR SHIT!!!!!!!!!
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>>123563Faggot Maggot by CAN'T featuring such hit songs as my ex wife's house and I cannot keep my bonaer
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>>123563I cant tell if youre severely mentally retarded,a worse user than I am,or trolling. But that definetely made zero fucking sense. I like CAN because they actually understand how to play music beyond the weird dispatched tard coded train simulator way dreamtheater and zappa did. It flows naturally. It has feel. Same with the vu Vander blah blah. Zappa is for people who dont really "get" music i feel.
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But yeah stop being a faggot maggot and maybe you'll be able to enjoy a little dissonance a d appreciate the only can album you actually listened too better lol.
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Cells are the only cells in which a person can produce the energy they want and are not the same thing they are when the body processes it or is used for the cerebellum cycle. You don't understand the is and evidently you never will. FUCKING IDIOT
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>>123567You're either trolling or genuinely tapped man. Idk.
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>>123568Yeah yeah yeah same shit I've heard from you 50 fucking times before, "you must be le heckin trolling!" or "you're disabled because I don't understand music!", fucking retarded as always. How does it feel being TOO FUCKINGSIN RETAREDED TO UNDERSTAND FUCKING CELL THEORY?
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Government me a second my phone reloaded or some shit. Like I said im pretty wasted
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>>123569I understand cell theory in terms of sexual psychology because I listened to CAN lol. Its a concept zappa is too retarded to have a song be genuinely about. But no im not a scientist. I think I roughly do though. Its like that tour everything moves at a cellular level. Im gonna be back in a minute. But like I said if you want a deeper conversation on this this is like my day off I work tomorrow im getting trashed probably not gonna be now.
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>>123570You're too stupid to understand Zappa. You're too stupid to understand Dream Theater. You're too stupid to understand Pete Nice. You're too stupid to understand cell theory. You're too stupid to understand sex tapes. How the fuck do you even hold a job? You don't even know what a cerebellum is
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>>123572Zappa literally is music made by and for retards lol. You can spam that all you want but cannot explain for the life of you why in a way relating directly back to the music.
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>>123570You're too stupid to understand Homestar Runner. You're too stupid to understand Chainsaw Man. You're too stupid to understand Panty Stocking. You're too stupid to understand Excel Saga. You're too stupid to understand Hazbin Hotel. FUCKING RETARD
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>>123572Like i said though dude like if you're looking for more in depth analysis from me right now is probably not the day. Probably a day im off but dont work the next day woild. Today is getting trashed.
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>>123574Even the person who made hasbin hotel looks retarded though lol. Type of fat bitch you'd end up with versus the type of fat bitch i would.
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Charlie isn't real and won't suck your cock btw. You can commit spaghetti now verbalacs
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>>123576Who cares, at least she makes real art unlike the bullshit you're into. You're too stupid to understand Mobby Dick. You're too stupid to understand Pierre Boulez. You're too stupid to understand Pete Nice. You're too stupid to understand Panty Stocking. You know nothing about art and only like shallow shit for babies
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>>123578Some pussy would save you
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>>123578>>>123576 (You)>Who cares, at least she makes real art unlike the bullshit you're into. You're too stupid to understand Mobby Dick. You're too stupid to understand Pierre Boulez. You're too stupid to understand Pete Nice. You're too stupid to understand Panty Stocking. You know nothing about art and only like shallow shit for babiesEverybody understands moby dick because Everybody else read that shit in middleschool. You're fucking slow so you still find it impressive
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>>123579A. I have a girlfriend on discord who I'm gonna be meeting up with
B. at least I fucking UNDERSTAND COMPLEX ART unlike you, you only like shit for babies lol
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>>123578I actually have enjoyed hwat ive heard from Peire Boulez though tbh. Idrg where you got that from. I think he did some engaging stuff actually. But ive heard only a little.
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>>123582Ok but you still can't handle Pete Nice or Captain Beefheart, which are substantially more advanced than Boulez so that's not surprisng
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>>123581Bro send me some Peire Boulez you think I coukd understand or appreciate then. Im fucking trashed but I will give you an extremely honest opinion.
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>>123583Ok but I've listened to Peire Boulez bro. I like a couple of his songs or pieces or whatever.
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>>123583I am assuming you listen to him more than I do but im like 90% sure ive heard several things he did. Like at least an hour or so of stuff by him at some point.
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>>123585>>123584https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WPy2QXGws here, you'll probably get filtered anyway but stop trying to pivot the conversation to only being about Peire Boulez, we all know you're too retarded to understand Pete Nice for example
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Im like I said completely trashed though so unironically just send me what you think his best work was and I'll listen to it. Im in like a heady space right now so yk fuckit I could use some Boulez.
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>>123587I actually can see why you thought I wouldn't given some of my takes on zappa and his use of structure. They being said im actually enjoying it somewhat or im at least intrigued by it. I think I might like this though. But im like the level of high and drunk right now where id bop my head to anything. I like it though. I find it reflective and evocative.
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>>123587First time listening to this I gotta say I like it. I see why you thought I wouldn't and it is very experimental and noncenventional but it draws you in in a way that far more commercial far more mainstream artists struggle their entire career to do. It locks you in immediately and as "pretentious" as this type of scene might be you can feel it in your chest. This could be redacted later but my first review gives it a strong ten out of ten.
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>>123587Despite its supposedly elitist and conceptual nature this goes hard as fuck lol. This is like something that yoi can feel primally. Im fucking with it heavily actually. Unironically thank you for sending me this. I can see why you thought I wouldn't get it though ngl since my strong dislike of zappas sense of pac I ng or style which I can see how maybe he went off this guy to some extent. I only really ever listen to one thing he did because odd time signatures and I wanna have varried music. But this is cool. I like it.
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I know im spamming but im unironicwlly just listening to this shit repeatedly nonstop. 10/10 easily. You were right this is incredible.
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>>123593Its ok ig. Sounds like shit my dad would like.
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>>123593>>123593
Bit dry for me but nonetheless a cool insturmental. 7 or 8 out of 10.
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>>123593You like Cymande at all? I like Damcehall more than rap tbh.
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>>123593I know cymande isnt dancehall thats just more like the type of thing I would listen to id say.
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>>123593I like rnb just more 60s and 70s stuff followed by dancehall which isnt exactly a surprise probably. I am easily susceptible to stonerbait and shroomerbait.
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>>123593Like Temptstiosn circa "Hurry Tomorrow" or "Smiling Faces",Funkadelic,Cymamde,Del Jones all do way more for me than most rap. But im also a guitarist so heavily biased probably. I like like Strawberry Letter 23.
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>>123623>>123624I'm not familiar
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>>123636Cymande or judt in general? I mean you've heard Funkadeliy or The Famoly Stone at some point right?
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>>123637yeah I know funkadelic and sly (only heard a couple tracks), haven't listened to anything by cymande though
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>>123638Dove is easily there most well known trafk and probably the one most elevated to this conversation. Check out Del Jones Positive Vibes aswell if you get the chance.
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Relevant not elevated.
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I'm listening to Marc Mundy. He was Greek I think? But he was mostly a recording artist in New York. He has a strong accent he was definetely first generation. But he's an "American Artist" in the way he was part of the new york scene. His lyrics can be sort of awkward in the ways that Damos can since obviously esl but its he has one album from 1971 and its pretty good.
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Im not sure if Marc Mundy has super deep lyrics or whatever or is really that deep though. He more i would say was like the garage end of psych rock. Like proto punk sort of. Im that ballpark. I'm assuming this album failed because of how strong his accent was tbh. But the songs are based. Its i think probably unintentionally not far off from the vu in some ways. But lots of Greek influence and then just some sort of generic 60s pop rock bits. Songs are mostly about pussy. Probably not inspired by The VU or The Beatles whatsoever maybe morelike idefk something more pop oriented for the time ig. But lots of similar or parallel there. A lot of this seems to be an attempt to elevate rock as an art form. Couple years later though 71. I think maybe like steppenwolf plus some pop rock but not as much vu or Beatles as something like idefk maybe mamas papa's or loving spoonfuls or some shit but the Greek influence is strong and stands out. Very intense and stoic folk rock jams and some "cooler" morr chilled out backdrop songs. Spacy guitar. Idk. Interesting album. Marc Mundy 1971.
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Marc Mundys accent is probably a detrimental to the music overall I won't even lie but it's very organic and groovy jammy. Has a folksy feel with lots of little ornamental flourishes. Marc Mundy 1971. Gotta hear it.
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>>123639I'm listening to Dove right now, it's alright I guess but it's not really grabbing me. If I'm being real I need stuff like this to be weirder or have a bit more edge for me to get into it. It's fine for what it is though
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>>123645Yeah see for me I need something that feels cohesive at least somewhat. Si that explains the zappa dichotomy right there probably ngl
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New guy at work has tons of facial acne despite being taller than I am probably an adult. Looks to be early 20s but simply as shit. Scoffed at me for telling him to follow basic knife safety. Feel like he would probably enjoy Zappa. Feel like he would own a Nintendo switch or something.
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Bro was pointing the knife directly at me not looking where he was going at all and its somehow my fault. Cut his hand open earlier and was somehow still snide about it because he didnt do it with a knife he did it with sometging else. Like yellow pimples but almost definetely an adult. Zappa would love this guy. Imagine he's listening to Dreamtheater on his headphones a bit aswell.
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He's alright brother might be chill. We'll see.
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>>123686>>123685show him Pete Nice and see how he reacts
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>>123802Probably won't be doing this.
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Tried listening to Can again, it sucked! I needed a Zappa transplant stat!
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>>123889You're just saying that to bitch me out tho. No matter how you view me,you gotta admit they had natural flow.
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>>123892what does that mean "natural"? what kind of bullshit essentialism is this?
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>>123900Flows organically. You cant figure it out because you're too retarded to actually comprehend music but it's like when the pieces move together organically one flows from the next that's what that would mean. Zappa didn't do that. You like Zappa and Dreamtheater because you can't tell they "sound janky",and this is coming from somebody who likes the british prog acts. But at least those HAD SONGS WITH ACTUAL TIMING AND MELODY. Zappa didn't. CAN did.
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>>123900I'm not even listening to CAN right now though. I'm listening to Mighty Baby. I fucking love Mighty Baby too though mind you. They're a british band,but you wouldn't necessarily know that from listening to them. They're a bit like various Cali Bands. Especially QMS,The Dead,Jefferson Airplane etc. Moby Grape. But like folky rock jam session stuff. Very clear country influence despite being british. On the toilet listening to one of their live sets from the 70s.
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>>123900But yeah zappa didnt understand how to structure or conceptualize his musix. You can't figure that out either because you're a soulless bug person. You see le ebin math chart and assume it also sounds normal to everybody else. But just because it checks out on some chart doesn't mean it actually works contextually or artistically or in context. Magmas blocky jankiness works because it generally fits the mood. It's overly complicated and non intuitive but it still feels like this is creating an overall vibe. Magma feels like the weight and responsibility of the world on your shoulders. Zappa just feels awkward. I would say same with ELP. They also sound janky and mechanical but it creates a mood. It feels like its supposed to be. It's a feature. While Zappa seems unaware of his own work enough to tell that it is even a property.
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>>123900But yeah anyway dude. Listen to Mighty Baby. All time huge fucking classic.
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If you are "yanked out of the experience" against your will. You don't feel that as much with CAN as with Zappa. Least I don't.
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>>123915fuck you asshole!
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>>124010>>>123915>fuck you asshole!You have no argument lol. You know how to have a meltdown and string it together but not how to make it actually coherent. So you're just like your favorite "content creator".
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>>124036I already made my case for how CAN's "music", totally devoid of cellular energy and cerebral cells, pales in comparison to the legendary ZAPPA and DREAM THEATER. Just admit you lost man
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>>124048Thats nonsensical retarded garbage lmao. It has no exact meaning and is completely random phrases you learned because you thought they would make you seem intelligent. Either that or you're a crackhead.
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>>124048>"just admit you lost man"You talk like a reddit admit in real life so judt talk like one here lol.
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*admin
Yeah idfk bro. Thats a really confusing and baseless argument which ultimately means nothing and also like I said CAN sort of have a song about this on Soon over Bulma. But like also if you could like connect this back to any real artistic or musical concepts that would be great. Like what do the cells want? Can you even define that? No you can't. Because you're just miming whatever makes you feel better.
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>"totally devoid of cellular energy and cerebral cells, pales in comparison to the legendary ZAPPA and DREAM THEATER."
Like do you not see how veauge that is? I'll give you it sounded coop but beyond that explain what that actually means? Idk.
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>>124061First of all, fuck you. Second of all, your cellular membranes are so weak that it's not even funny, the mitochondrial jelly is floating freely throughout your bloodstream and it just makes you sound like a retard honestly. Thirdly, fuck you. Fourth of all, your cerebellum is leaking so much cerebral fluid that your entire kidney is beginning to rupture. Fifth of all, you haven't watched a sex tape, and you will never watch a sex tape. You try to deny this over and over again but you aren't fooling the hundreds of people in this thread who can see it plainly lmao. Sixth of all, fuck you. Seventh of all, you don't understand Zappa because of everything mentioned above, but in addition to that you've never jerked it to him and that's because your cells are failing to undergo proper respiration. It's sad really
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>3 hours
>no response
lmao, I'll just take that as you admitting that you were 100% BTFO'd
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>>124071>"Fourth of all, your cerebellum is leaking so much cerebral fluid that your entire kidney is beginning to rupture. Fifth of all, you haven't watched a sex tape, and you will never watch a sex tape. You try to deny this over and over again but you aren't fooling the hundreds of people in this thread who can see it plainly lmao. Sixth of all, fuck you. Seventh of all, you don't understand Zappa because of everything mentioned above, but in addition to that you've never jerked it to him and that's because your cells are failing to undergo proper respiration. It's sad really"Bait or mental retardation?
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>>124071Bro thought this made him sound like a BIG SMART BOY like everything he says doesn't just sound retarded by default anyway.
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Future male loneliness victim 10000%
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Fat retarded incel spams skbbidi meme phrases he learned from sigma male "self help" videos. You like zappa because it lacks pacing and has more funny screeching tard bait shit than CAN does. I like CAN more for the exact same reason. You're fucking fried.
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Weirdo shit for porn addicts. Also it doesn't matter as much when I dont respond because I actually have a life lol.
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Damm its been 15 hours,which means ofc more from you since you cannot work or keep a normal sleep schedule (easy to infer)…..
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>>124092No counterargument huh? Why am I not surprised…
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>>124144>>>124092>No counterargument huh? Why am I not surprisedβ¦You were screeching retardedly about irrelevant ideas ao yeah. Projecting about your weird genetic disease or whatever. Everybody who likes both zappa and dreamthester is a spastic retard with negative iq therefore you probably are aswell. Entire conversation predicated on you being delusional. It's music for people who can't comprehend melody or pacing. Thats why you like it. It's more a sign something is wrong with you then me.
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>>124144The sex tape thing is because you're a Virginia with rage and zero social reasoning who probably has a severely receding hairline. Other part was "ME BIG SMART YUO STUPID" but treating cells like they're talking and shit like this was a fucjing Pixar movie. Shows you have a dumbed down/stoopified version of reality without really directly relating back to the topic. But no you're just screaming the same thing over and over again hoping it eventually sticks. Zappa and Dreamtheater are like extra chromosome bands dude,that cell shit is you lol. Its because you dont have the internal sense ot rhythm or pacing that most of the rest of humanity does. Bug people shit which sounds technically correct in practice but lacks any sense of flow or natural progression.
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Wild how genuinely socially isolated some of you are. Like who do you think Zappa genuinely appeals to lol? Delusional shit.
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(Technicaply like academically not actually lisetnable or remotely engaging.)
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>>124237Dude there are several hundred people viewing this thread right now and they can all plainly tell that you have weak cellular membranes and a broken down cerebellum. It's not that everyone but you is crazy and lying about you, get real. You've also basically admitted that you've never even seen a sex tape or jerked to Zappa lol, not even gonna try to refute that are you?
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>>124246>>>124237>Dude there are several hundred people viewing this thread right now and they can all plainly tell that you have weak cellular membranes and a broken down cerebellum. It's not that everyone but you is crazy and lying about you, get real. You've also basically admitted that you've never even seen a sex tape or jerked to Zappa lol, not even gonna try to refute that are you?Bait or mental retardation?
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>>124246No ive had sex before that's why ive outgrown pretending tonl enjoy randomized dogshit such as frank zappa. I'm guessing this is probably bait though.
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>>124247Fuck off lol. We can all tell that you're coping. Stop kidding yourself
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>>124249>>>124247 (You)>Fuck off lol. We can all tell that you're coping. Stop kidding yourselfI have met only one or two zappa fans in my entire life who didn't seem like they were substantially impaired mentally. It appeals to random quirk chungus type guys. CAN is more refined imo.
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>>124250You've never even jerked to Zappa, you have no clue what you're talking about lmao
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>>124249The membrane cell thing is just you trying to tell me im a retard but you listen to Frank Zappa and Dreamthester which mostly appeal to like Chris Chan type guys lol. I think im ok. I can understand intuitive rhythm and melody well enough not to be forced to pretend to enjoy the random funny screeching tile counting shit. I do like magma though,but magma has a sense of mood. Zappa and Dreamtheater do not. The melody and rhythm feel janky unintentionally while Magma sounds "naturally mechanical". Which is the superior way to go if your trying to achieve technical wankery. But thats not the reality end all be all. The end all be all is feeling and emotion.
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>>124251Yeah because I smoke weed and have seen a woman naked before. This says more about you and also the type of guy who listens to frank ohio generally than me.
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>>124253I call bullshit. You've never even watched a sex tape dude. We all see through your lies
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If you don't have a real job and have never had sex and the reason thats true is you have a stunted mental state then yeah frank zappa probably has more appeal to you than CAN. Never doubted that.
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>>124254I don't lol. You're emotionally stunted. Problem solved.
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>>124255>>124256At least I don't have free floating mitochondrial jelly lol
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>>124254>"you've never even watched a sex tape dude"Nobody else your age finds sex tapes as cool as you do. We've seen them we're just not talking about them. The fact you still call them tapes in current year suggests you're like in your 40s and still thinking this is a flex which is sad. Most people just use porno sites.
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>>124258Bros old enough to still be watching tapes and still thinks porn is cool. If thats not a sign for mental retardation im not sure what would be. So yeah. You have energy of the type of individual who would enjoy Zappa more than CAN. Nothing that needs proving with that one.
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>>124258You definetely do haha. You can't keep a coherent thought or understand how to form an argument. Your directionlessness and low attention span help you to "enjoy" zappa.
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Nonsensical screeching that is either bait or mental retardation versus the objective high level musical achievements CAN made.
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>>124262>>124261>>124260>>124259when's the last time your cells engaged in proper respiration lmao. answer that for us
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>>124263Sooner than yours did. Spastic meltdown sped phrases. Bro said "I like turtles!" and thought he added to the conversation. You are a fucjing downie. You still think zappa is funny as a grown man. That shit is sad lol. Go work ou yourself.
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>>1242633D rendered pepe ahh gaming pc quote
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Will how unfunny and unclever you are. Probably explains why yo find the funny screeching random number generator "complex" stuff to have genuine depth. Just because you can add thirty extra notes doesn't mean doing so works or does anything. Its alright sometimes but Zappa had no concept of placement. You probably don't either.
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*wild (im on the middle of doing some yard work might try and go get a security gig with my friend too ig)
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Frank Zappa isn't even music. It's just vine sound effects for Adrian's who don't have a friend group and crack laboubous.
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>>124267>>124269You're the one who's so retarded that he thinks cells don't exist lmao. Fuck outta here with that shit
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>>124270>>124270When did i ever say or imply that? I just doubted the concept directly tied into the argument (using that very loosely) that you believed/thought you were making. I am aware of cells. I am aware that there are little smaller bits of things that make up your body. I am aware of cells too. I am aware of sperm cells. I just think you're throwing out unrelated or at least very indirectly related concepts in a desperate attempt to seem smart. Mostly because you cannot fully conceptualize my complaints or know enough about music to fully explain hat you like about Zappa relative to CAN. It comes off as nonsensical drivel which has little to no connection to the music.
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>>124270Literally argument that you're having in your head. I doubted that the cells themselves had thoughts or feelings in the way you're describing or were moving towards particular types of music etc. I think that's quite frankly absurd and says more about your conceptual reasoning than mine. At most maybe chemical emotional reactions but likely not on an individual cellular level. You might be confusing this with religious concepts aswell. Most people don't view cells themselves as sentient.
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Saying they don't directly consciously make decisions for you is different than saying that they "dont exist" though. Like you could believe God doesn't judge you for this or that and still believe in his veauge existence in a sense. Same thing.
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The more complex or organized form of the cells do but the individual cells themselves have no consciousness. Im not doubting that we are cellular structures. Im doubting your basis and concept of human behavior. I'm doubting that they on an individual level are deciding things due to their size and simplicity.
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Basically I think you're oversimplifying the dynamic and also making appeals where "the cells" are just a reflection of whatever you already feel on some sort of quadi spiritual basis with no understanding of how small and simple these individual structures are. Im not doubting that cells exist or that everything around us is made up of them. Im more doubting the legitimacy of this as a factual starting point for art discussion. If you were talking about chemical reactions within the brain that I could understand. But not cells individually. You also have no basis for your assertions about what the "cells" want etc. It feels like im talking to a mentally disabled redditor who latched onto a couple funny phrases from one or two articles. Your description of how the cells tie into your ideas is lacking at best. It just makes you sound like a discord mod not as wildly intelligent as you are thinking. More somebody Jordin Petersans as you call him would make fun of than somebody truly in a position to look down upon him.
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*quasi
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It just sounds like discord administration garbage tbh. It makes no sense lol. It works in your head because you're a massive try hard who's actually retarded.
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Frank Zappa and Dreamtheater are bands people rightfully make fun of you for liking in tbe real world. I garuntee nobody else thought this made sense either.
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Nonsensical gooner retard shit appealing to concepts you barely even understand. The cells are not sentient. The larger structure is. They're not like venom talking to you lmao. No wonder you "like" Frank Zappa.
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Cell Theory not explaining why I should listen to 60s I am a Matian in current year.
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I'm sorry dude im just thinking the cells are more like reacting to each other in a chain of sorts and then those explosions or that energy running through it really "forms" the thoughts but nothing on a smaller level than that would resemble a "thought" as we understand it. I know that's not very scientific. My friend had to explain this theory to me tbf. The shit you were saying was confusing as fuck. I think the overarching idea might have Merritt but I really doubt that the cells themselves are having "thoughts" persay. I think its probably morelike energy being transmitted or explosions on some microscopic level that form into "thoughts" on a larger scale. So not the cells themselves. I know that's probably not consensus but I just have a hard time believing something that small and on such a simple level could in a genuine sense have complex thought patterns. It doesn't sit right with me. Thats what I thought you meant tbh I was just yk confused by the whole concept bro. I'm skeptical. Even like fish don't have complex thought on the same level as a human does so why would a cell?
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If Fish can't conceptualize who Frank Zappa or CAN were why would an individual cell even have an idea of things like sex or philosophy or a measurement of intelligence or personal achievement? I don't think they're really "thinking" on the level we are bro. At least thats just me. Like if a fish can't have an opinion on Frank Zappa or conceptualize what that is or what he was doing. Like I don't think the human cell can do that. Because think about it. The fish is way more complex than an individual cell. It might not be more complex than an entire human,but if a fish can't conceptualize Frank Zappas music or just him as a person fully than an individual cell certainly couldn't. If a cat couldn't conceptualize just the idea of libertarianism or ayn rand how is a individual human cell going to conceptualize a "zappa" or a "CAN"? It's an oversimplified theory. It's lacking nuance. I imagine a small chain of explosions sets off neurological responses which then eventually translate into "thoughts" maybe. But you're not genuinely fucking telling me that your cells told you to listen to Frank Zappa and not CAN. That's retarded.
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I can believe other parts of your body make decisions beyond the brain aswell even. Just not that individual cells are capable of complex enough thought that they would even be able to have a concept of music. Not when a Fish couldn't or a Cat couldn't full understand who or what a CAN or a Zappa was.
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I mean half of your argument seems to be that the bands you like are more technical and mathematically complex than the ones I like. How would a cell have a measurement for that when a Cat or a Fish wouldn't? When a fish doesn't even have music how the fuck would an individual cell be able to fully conceptualize something like Dreamtheater? Can a Cell read time signatures? I think you're overapplying and oversimplifying this concept. It was good to confirm that cell theory is what I thought it wad though. Im just not sure about an individual cell being able to do all that.
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Like if not all animals even have a concept of music muchless time signatures and you don't think im smart enough to understand it than how would a cell which is a much much much simpler organism in all ways be able to? It just feels doubtful at best. Personally I don't think the cells have thought at all in genuine. A fish barely does so why would an individual cell know what time signatures or tone something was in? Exactly. You're giving complex conceptual reasoning to something microscopic. So that's like kinda hard dude.
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Like consider that there are entire species of animals that don't have a concept of music and then consider how much simpler an individual cell is. That's what I'm having a issue with. Not the generalized concept of cells.
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>>124280>>124278>>124277>>124282>>124283>>124284>>124285>>124286>>124287>>124294>>124295>>124296>>124297>>124298>>124299>>124304First of all, fuck you. Second of all, your cellular membranes are so weak that it's not even funny, the mitochondrial jelly is floating freely throughout your bloodstream and it just makes you sound like a retard honestly. Thirdly, fuck you. Fourth of all, your cerebellum is leaking so much cerebral fluid that your entire kidney is beginning to rupture. Fifth of all, you haven't watched a sex tape, and you will never watch a sex tape. You try to deny this over and over again but you aren't fooling the hundreds of people in this thread who can see it plainly lmao. Sixth of all, fuck you. Seventh of all, you don't understand Zappa because of everything mentioned above, but in addition to that you've never jerked it to him and that's because your cells are failing to undergo proper respiration. It's sad really
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>>124359You dont think its weird that the membranes of the cells just happen to align with everything you like and nothing anybody else likes? Does that really seem logical? Idk feels like an appeal to pseudointellectualism where you're throwing out random scientific terms and hoping they stick. Do you have any substantial evidence that the cells would in fact react to zappa this way? My skepticism is seeming fairly founded.
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>>124359Cerebellum Sex Tape Botttom Text but none of this connects directly to Zappas work particularly well. Maybe if you were less of a faggot maggot you'd be able to appreciate high eq high iq high testosterone intellectual wholesome traditional screaming more than funny fart noises? I feel like this is you having lower reasoning or emotional inhibition tbh. That seems much more likely. Zappa isnt as challenging artistically and is written at like a middleschool level so you see yourself in it more. But more retarded random blathering won't really change that. Check bros hard drive cia lololol
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OH OH OH OKAY
CEREBELUM SEX TAPE
ZAPPA WAS PROBABLY ACCUSED OF RAPE
FUCKING ON MY ANIME PILLOW
ZERO FOCUS
YOU CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT
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Bro talks shit about me disappearing for like only three hours during the day on some weekday but then disappears for ten hours and only comes back to bitch and wine the next day. Society.
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>>124404Fuck off motherfucker. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND CELL THEORY. YOU'VE NEVER WATCHED A SEX TAPE. YOUR CELLS HAVE WEAK MEMBRANES WHICH LEAK MITOCHONDRIAL JELLY. YOUR KIDNEYS ARE ON THE VERGE OF FAILING. YOU'VE NEVER JERKED TO ZAPPA. Cells are the only thing in our body that can produce energy at will and when our body does something or seeks or produces energy it is different and there is a chemical substance that produces energy called a cell. Iβm not suggesting that the word it complex can mean a chemical that can produce energy that can function and produce energy like a normal person. The best example of this is sex, you could say that using it makes the best condoms even stronger and the best condoms you have even more enjoyable.
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The condoms are the new ones that offer a lot more than the ones I bought a few months ago and they aren't too big and I think I'll get one soon too lol. This one will be better than the one I bought a few months ago so I think I'll have it soon lol but it's still new so I think it will fit well in my wardrobe. Thanks to the other advertisers for their contributions to this post, I'm starting to look into these for my next collection and will want to get some in the next few years when I have more experience with the local retailers around the apartment where I live. If you want to do it for your birthday, can I invite you both to my birthday party? That's nonsense.
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I love phone sex, but that doesn't mean you have a choice between being in the bedroom and not having sex, being alone, being in the bedroom, or being in the bathroom with your partner and not in the shower. Phone sex will make you a better partner and it won't make your life worse. And it doesn't matter how you are to me. You are not the best person because you are you and your phones and you have no right to them. I have to say you have no right and I have no right. And if I'm not in the right place, I have no rights. You have a choice and the wrong choice. Cell phones and cell phones give you a lot more rights to be in relationships with others, and phone sex with you has a lot of rights. You are not a masturbation problem and you are not the same. I am more of a sex tape and phone sex slut and you have no right to your phone.
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>>124453Have you had like real actual sex or nah? Im guessing the "phone sex" in question was helluvaboss role playing shit?