/a/ - Aryanime

>>127150
>but you have to do one thing not see it as a remake but as its own alternative story
Yeah but that's my real issue with it, I wanted OG Tsukihime with: Voice acting, more music, longer ciel route, more characterization for Hisui, a Yumizuka route and something that actually connected the original with Kagetsu Tohya and Melty Blood instead of this weird what if/spin off/alternative universe shit they made. Not a different story that's more interested in kepornng up with the increasingly retarded power levels of Fate, seriously, have you seen how fucking busted Remake Ciel is? She used to be just a Wolverine nun with 2 big buns that sometimes picked up a huge gun that could fire the light of God to obliterate 2 guys at best (at least that's how big that beam looks in melty blood), In the remake she's one of the strongest people IN THE UNIVERSE SHE CAN BEAT 90% OF SERVANTS now. Why nasu, why?

>>127151
>OG Tsukihime with: Voice acting, more music, longer ciel route, more characterization for Hisui, a Yumizuka route and something that actually connected the original with Kagetsu Tohya and Melty Blood
This is definitely what Nasu had in mind when he first announced the Tsukihime remake in 2008. I imagine after FGO began pulling in profits the entire thing was changed to the more Fate-like version we got 13 years later.

>>127114
>Sacchin-chan
It was a nice nickname her friends gave her. Always interpreted it as a version of "saccharine" to mean how sweet she is. Probably some engrish thing the japanese made up.
>>127151
I liked how well nasu built up the vampires being immortal dangers lurking far from civilization but the anime powerscaling of melty blood and the remake really undermined it with more and more fate elements as it went on.
>Fate Powerscaling in Melty Blood
Stuff like the neco arc village is fine, but we really didn't need archetype:earth and tying vampires into the "will of the planet" or whatever autistic Fate shit nasu was cooking at the time. He even threw clocktower into the plot with Sion being a vampire magus and heir of whatever glowie magi organization she was a part of. When the church and magi would have purged her immediately and never allowed her to return anyway after she was turned into a vampire. Ancestors were better left as an unknowable ancient horror and leaving "Princess Arc" for the manga ending and adding it as the official end of Arc's route where shiki tracks her down some years later with the help of some magi like Aoko or Touko.

>>127144
Tsukihime sprites are so amazing limited with art music and voice acting a simple sprite change can absolutely set the tone or change your whole mood or feeling about a character its such a unique experience and something special that stood out to me something the remake fails to accomplish

>>127144
Its nice that in the web version you can switch between the soundtracks tho its very clear tsuki bako is the definitive version some of the original are amazing too ever after just has dogshit or makes amazing songs slightly worse but yes more variety in ost would be nice i personally sometimes just put something from the remake on like for the nero fight but i think it does use the soundeffects to its benefit like for the one scene in hisuis route where they have the clock ticking and the text would match the clicking or how the text speed in ciels route stutterd when she became flustered there is alot of heart put into tsukihime

For anyone interested cbs custom fumoland are making tsukihime fumos!

>>127144
the backgrounds always stood out to me it goves tsukihime such a unique atmosphere my friend also said it made him feel very nostalgic whilst people shit on the mirror moon translation their writing style still is something to be appreciated in how it let the story feel they way things were phrased it all felt very beautiful to me and hit closer to heart in comparison to the official tl for the remake which sucks in alot of ways also having no sama nii-san and whatever i feel it will be funny how they handle nee-san and sister then for hisuis route since it was a hint

>>127145
Never diss the goat akiha again shes such an amazing character what??

>>127145
I havent read fate and i always intend to view the remake as its own thing but it can definitely be criticized at how much of a tone shift it is hell the scene that i liked alot in the remake was one that was unique to its own not a shittier version of an og scene that had the characters feel real like humans playing on of the og songs i think its either emotional 1 or 2 and man it actually did something it hit close to my heart again where i was able to see a similar struggle i faced reflected but it its own way and i think it desperately lacks these moments stays too much on wanting to be popular instead of having intimate moments between characters at times im not sure i can properly articulate what i mean but i think this whole thread has critized the remake enough already

>>127145
a positive thing about the remake that i want to mention is that the romantic relationship between shiki and ciel feels alot more real that ciel truly means alot to shiki comes of much better i like how it explores more of her backstory that his feelings towards her stem from many moments with her and that they can see parts of eachother in eachother aswell as recognize and admire their differences which inspires them to change how their differing views change the perspective of the other

>>127148
Hisui is my second fav! Funfact I made that gif

>>127151
I think the good thing for me is i knew of the existence of the remake and that it highly differentiated from the original and lowkey i really disliked that it existed when i started reading because tsukihime felt so unique that i thought the remake would only ruin it then i saw more of the art and felt it didn’t fit the characters at all later on yea there was alot of missed potential in tsukihime satsuki especially for me and i must admit roa aswell deserved alot more ciel is a fantastic character and i loved her route but i obviously wished it wasn’t so rushed with much reused scenes but it was often stated that ciel had alot of talent thats why roa even incarnate in her in the remake so far ive read shes pretty hardcore overpowered it makes her quite the different character in how og ciel still felt fragile in the emotional sense but i think thats fine remake ciel is still a great character on her own to me i haven’t read fate and i dont have the best grasp on the power system and im not finished with the remake but i hope they dont overdo it with her i got a tiny bit spoiled and i quite dislike how they put her above arcueid they are making arcueid feel insanely weak throughout the remake so far compared to what she actually has of power

>>127159
>tying vampires into the "will of the planet"
that was already present in og tsukihime

>>127170
yeah it was but it didnt take center stage. Just shiki helping arc fight roa and nrvnsqr. I just want a sacchin chan route.

>>127216
tsmt

>>127218
The manga was nice. Was also fun to go through the back alley alliance manga even with all the FGO characters in it from Chaldea.

>>127390
I still have to finish the manga and kagetsu tohya and remake im slacking quite a bit i also haven’t finished og melty story mode neither arcade mode for actress again

>>127398
I cant beat that dumbass Giant Akiha boss in OG Melty

>>127398
Doesn't seem to be much of a difference between actress again and the rest of the melty blood re releases. Except for Type Lumina being a soft reboot for some reason.

Only after a thrembillion years after FGO ends will nasu finish the tsukihime remake.

I like og melty roa's voice

>>127165
Akiha is a massive bitch and I fucking hate her sorry, my favorite bad ending of all type moon works is the one where Nanaya takes control just to slice her head off in the Kohaku route.

>>127154
Has Fate Grand Order done a single good thing for the world?

>>127435
No. It cast anime into a thrembillion year dark age of brimstone.

>>126530
i cant remember a single important thing she did im ngl

>>127434
It could be because we barley get to see the real akiha she was raised in a completely unnatural environment abusively to an extent she whats tries her best to be the heir of the tohno household which is an act she plays something she wants to be but its not her full self its important to note how important shiki is to her and how much she cares about kohaku and hisui that she stood up against makihisa who she easily feared the most its because of shiki that she could remain herself and not fall into the tohno blood she literally gave away half of her life force to keep him alive and that leads us to red haired akiha who is the embodiment of her supressed and truly selfish desires emplified by her blood running wild its not who she truly is but there are also parts of her in that alot of things she does and says in kohakus route she would never truly mean but through all her life she revolved herself around shiki and never moved on from the past she clung to him in an unhealthy way which both saved and broke her but she tries to be strong and not let such selfish emotions of her desires come out because she knows she doesn’t want to take him by force she wants him to move on and she wants him to simply live a good life with all of those things behind but i think where we get to see who akiha truly is, is when her hair is her natrual brown redish color it does suck that its in her hscene that is half made into an incest trope to fill in, but she does care about shiki and she literally asks him to kill her if her tohno blood takes hold because thats not her and she doesn’t want to exist if she cannot have control over her body

>>127457
Transformed noel into a vampire ig

>>127458
We only see the "real" Akiha twice, once leading up to and during her h-scene (when she has the red-ish hair, in between the facade she puts on and vermillion) and in her true ending after she is made whole again by Shiki.

>>127463
yea sorry i forgot to mention man damn that akiha cg always gets me one of the best endings dude

>>127432
mbaacc has the best cast for the characters

>>127548
its like the ultimate edition of the older melty blood games. the story doesnt change at all between the various re releases.

>>127463
I think in this scene we also get to see a glimpse of the real akiha

>>127560
what about the community edition actually I couldnt manage to get the controls right but i heard its the definitive edition

>>127594
Thats the same thing. Just remember that it got taken over by troons shilling a ‘cord and some sketchy looking programs added to it.

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I think the remake is fine being its own thing i think its weakest parts are when it remakes scenes from the original the chair scene while funnier i think lost an essence about it its harder to feel into shiki probably due to its over the top nature rather than giving you a breathing from imagination also the amount of foreshadowing is a bit annoying it’s almost like it spells the plot out to you what i do like are additional scenes that give you a glimpse of characters like akiha i think she got the most for the near side routes and it shows her very well how she’s actually just putting up a front and shiki empathizing such small character moments are nice i liked the melty and kagetsu tohya references i saw aswell and it has some suprising things happening i like when it diverges from og tsukihime and does its own thing i do wish it wasn’t called a remake

>>127659
>remake vs OG tsuki
It is its own timeline according to nasu. Even neco arc mentions it in type lumina.

>>127725
more people should be aware i saw some xitter trannys just bring up again how the remake is the better version of tsukihime and “better” i wish people would stop comparing it and appreciate both for what they are instead of what they arent

kagetsu tohya is so hard to 100% how tf did you guys do it

>>127726
Never a point in engaging with them. Those retards are never acting in good faith and just use it as bait. Been a problem as old as the internet. Except now instead of just shitflinging back and forth they cry for jannies to permaban anyone they just don't like.

>>127775
yea i deleted xitter cus of that i was just looking for some discussion on tsukihime since ive recently gotten into it too bad its hard to find any decent ones

I read the vn is the manga worth checking out?

arcueids good ending is so contradictory towards the true ending but what if its actually arcueids dream the what if it didn’t need to end this way what if i could have lived with shiki beyond that it makes me sadder thinking about it like that

most samefagged post in the 'party

>>127785
i worked hard on it thanks for the acknowledgment

>>127782
yes if you want some real closure on Arc's route.

>>127725
Is Type-Lumina even worth playing
I never played it because it didn't have Sion, the main heroine of the fucking series, but had fucking Saber of all people

>>127873
Not really. It has no idea what its supposed to be and neco arc of all characters is the only one that makes any sense. Whatever autism the “power of Re:Make” is that nasu went with for it.
>Sion
Sion was added in “under night in birth 2” apparently instead of type lumina. But goes by her middle name “Eltnam” now. French bread got the rights to sion and melty blood was kept by nasu. Sion was very consistent and just LARPs as a veteran of the fighting game wars with the cast in that series.