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EVERYONE reply to this thread NOW
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this game has a rape route lmao why
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>>55119it's not a "rape" route in a sexual sense. You just brainwash Noelle using manipulation tactics based on her trauma of losing December and etc. so that she can equip the ThornRing, become strong and later be our vessel instead of disobedient Kris. Or so it's theorized, otherwise we can also get the TwistedSword in chapter 5 probably.
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ok it seems we are not on the same lore page here aren't we
I guess little old me will have to do
So the Deltarune is a universe where a philosophic idea of panpsychism is very much applicable, meaning that every object in the Deltarune world has a mind and a body. However, these two elements aren't enough to create a living creature - it also needs a soul. Soul contains compassion, emotions, love, LoVE, EXP, ATK, DEF, and, most importantly determination, which allows for beings like monsters and humans to exist. So what this means is that, for example, your own household objects like TV, playing cards, trashcans and et cetera have a consciousness and memories of their own, but they don't have the determination to express it, so they remain just that, lifeless objects. However, this is only true when the lights are on, i. e. in the Light World.
In deltarune there are normal photons and negative photons, which represent light and darkness respectively (see Gaster Entry 17 for reference). When it's day time, there is more light than shadow, so you see the world as it is, with normal objects: the real world, the Light World; when it's night time, light is cancelled out by shadow, so you see and feel nothing besides your own imagination. However, there is another state: if you create negative photons, the darkness will subdue light, creating an inverted view of reality, the Dark World. You can perform this by channeling your determination into a blade and stabbing the Earth and creating the Dark Fountain. By doing this, you create negative light and de facto "share" your determination with the inanimate objects nearby, making them alive based on how you value or treasure them. For example: walls and floors and such will just change in appearance a bit; various held items will probably become your ITEMs, which increase your stats like in some sort of rpg; items that you have attachment to, like your old toys, favorite books or dust of deceased relative will become Darkners - real living beings.
The only way to seal the dark fountain is to use the power of human soul, which can emit pure light that defeats the darkness.
Now, also, when the Dark Fountain is created, there are also some objects that are based on pure darkness instead of their light world alternative, one of them being Shadow Crystals. In light world, they are just dim pieces of glass, however, for a brief moment you can actually see a Dark World through them. In the Dark World, shadow crystals are only shadows flowing like water in your hand; and looking through them, you can see the Light World without the lens of shadow. Darners who obtain the shadow crystal and see through it become insane because they realise that their whole world and existence is only a lie without any real freedom. Freedom is also one of the many themes of Deltarune, because there is also a Prophecy that dictates the future of the world. Various darkners tried to escape it: Jevil was in denial, he thought that because nothing hecking mattered he could do anything, so he just started pulling random shit and killing everyone; Spamton was desperate, he tried to steal our Soul and escape the dark world, but, because he was simply a spam program, it wasn't possible; Ramb didn't get the crystal but he was in deep depression so he tried to help Kris obtain the freedom that he never could; Gerson achieved acceptance and didn't use the crystal, instead finding the freedom in rewriting the prophecy and not interpreting it literally.
There are also many other things like Knight, titans, eram, eggs and et cetera but what I said is the info for starters.
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>ok it seems we are not on the same lore page here aren't we
>I guess little old me will have to do
>So the Deltarune is a universe where a philosophic idea of panpsychism is very much applicable, meaning that every object in the Deltarune world has a mind and a body. However, these two elements aren't enough to create a living creature - it also needs a soul. Soul contains compassion, emotions, love, LoVE, EXP, ATK, DEF, and, most importantly determination, which allows for beings like monsters and humans to exist. So what this means is that, for example, your own household objects like TV, playing cards, trashcans and et cetera have a consciousness and memories of their own, but they don't have the determination to express it, so they remain just that, lifeless objects. However, this is only true when the lights are on, i. e. in the Light World.
>In deltarune there are normal photons and negative photons, which represent light and darkness respectively (see Gaster Entry 17 for reference). When it's day time, there is more light than shadow, so you see the world as it is, with normal objects: the real world, the Light World; when it's night time, light is cancelled out by shadow, so you see and feel nothing besides your own imagination. However, there is another state: if you create negative photons, the darkness will subdue light, creating an inverted view of reality, the Dark World. You can perform this by channeling your determination into a blade and stabbing the Earth and creating the Dark Fountain. By doing this, you create negative light and de facto "share" your determination with the inanimate objects nearby, making them alive based on how you value or treasure them. For example: walls and floors and such will just change in appearance a bit; various held items will probably become your ITEMs, which increase your stats like in some sort of rpg; items that you have attachment to, like your old toys, favorite books or dust of deceased relative will become Darkners - real living beings.
>The only way to seal the dark fountain is to use the power of human soul, which can emit pure light that defeats the darkness.
>Now, also, when the Dark Fountain is created, there are also some objects that are based on pure darkness instead of their light world alternative, one of them being Shadow Crystals. In light world, they are just dim pieces of glass, however, for a brief moment you can actually see a Dark World through them. In the Dark World, shadow crystals are only shadows flowing like water in your hand; and looking through them, you can see the Light World without the lens of shadow. Darners who obtain the shadow crystal and see through it become insane because they realise that their whole world and existence is only a lie without any real freedom. Freedom is also one of the many themes of Deltarune, because there is also a Prophecy that dictates the future of the world. Various darkners tried to escape it: Jevil was in denial, he thought that because nothing hecking mattered he could do anything, so he just started pulling random shit and killing everyone; Spamton was desperate, he tried to steal our Soul and escape the dark world, but, because he was simply a spam program, it wasn't possible; Ramb didn't get the crystal but he was in deep depression so he tried to help Kris obtain the freedom that he never could; Gerson achieved acceptance and didn't use the crystal, instead finding the freedom in rewriting the prophecy and not interpreting it literally.
>There are also many other things like Knight, titans, eram, eggs and et cetera but what I said is the info for starters.
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2face what are your thoughts on temmie
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>>55294at least her sprites are better than toby's scribbles
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>>55120so the player was like an evil parasite all along and the guy we are controlling is trying to get rid of us?
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its been 8 years since the release of chapter 1 and there is no end to this game in sight what the fuck is that kike toby doing
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>>55179what does this have anything to do with undertale?
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>>55368Gaster from Undertale supposedly created the prophecy and the deltarune. Also sans is probably is from deltarune. Also Undertale has it's own prophecy about the angel who will clear the underground.
>>55376grim
>>55366this nigga is obsessed about japs so like the translation process takes 1/4 of the development time probably
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>>55379Do japs even care about undertale/deltarune
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>>55380They are the main auditory even if they are not as vocal as the amerimutt fanbase. gooks pay the most thats for sure
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>>55381What about Russians and other east slavs
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>>55383Russians pirate everything geg
>>55381It's audience, not auditory. Ñ‚Ñ‹ ESL
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>>55376I first learned about temmie from a Ukrainian ns telegram channel called temmien reich (I was browsing ns/wp clones on tg and saw the channel being shilled)
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>>55179>>55368There's a genre of schizobabble media that makes me say "what does this have to do with [x franchise]"
There's not a lot of these types but they still exist and I come across them from time to time
In this category falls:
*Supernatural Encounters: The Trial & Transformation of Arhul Hextrophon
*The Notion Club Papers
*anything by Miguel Serrano
*anything Michael Kirkbride wrote about the elder scrolls
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>>55426beyond the surface knowledge that the characters from both games are just parallel versions of each other, that is.
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>>55485His article mentions how one of his animations (ankha zone) is featured on the goonslop template but doesn't mention that there's another animation of his on the goonslop template (the temmie blowjob)
The fact that gook is still active is horrible
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>>55486>>55485Kill all porn artists
Kill all gooners
Kill all asians
Kill all kikes
Kill all degenerates
Kill all shitskins
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Gay videogame for pedophiles.
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>>55363basically dis. If we draw parallels to Undertale genocide route we can picture an interesting conclusion: genocide is the detachment from the game world and grinding the enemies until you reach the absolute, i. e. nothing; weird route is, instead, overattachment to the game, where you forcefully try to inert yourself in the story and the life of the protagonist evendoe the distinction between the player and the character is clear. Unlike genocide, you can't discover weird route on accident, you have to actively execute an obscure pattern of actions which are only vaguely hinted in the 8-bit sword route in chapter 3. At every point during the route execution the game gives you the attempt to abort it and get back to the normal gameplay. But because the player is curious, or has an unhealthy obsession with the game characters, especially noelle, the player will proceed and possibly derail the plot of the whole game. Given how deltarune tends to make commentary on issues of nostalgia and escapism (the whole dark world is the hecking perfect fantazy world thing), the weird route ties amazingly into this, making a commentary on players who want to live inside their favorite vidya
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>>55520he looks like he would have a freedom leitmotif
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>>55523Do you goon to muffet
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>>55524rarely.
It's mostly a bit to gain free reppies.
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I just saw a serbian nationalist noelle fan
So now we have:
Muffet=russia
Temmie=ukraine
Noelle=serbia
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>>55486Shitskin porn artists will always exist as long as there are people willing to pay for their goon art. They mostly do it as a way to earn money bc it's very profitable in their poor shithole countries.
Gooners are the cause, pornnigger drawfags are the consequence. Never goon
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deltatroon thread, ACK yourself
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>>55418Tag yourself
I'm aeonic futurist
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>>55418I am not autistic enough for this bullshit
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>>55610But you are autistic enough for undertale lore
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>>55614because it has sovl
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>>55633Btw I don't know anything about undertale, I've already told you I discovered temmie from ukrainian telegram ns
The other characters I know simply because undertale is so popular it's impossible to escape it
I could never get into something like undertale,homestuck,mlp,touhou etc as it's too gay for me
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>>55642beats me. Why are you lurking on ukrainian nationalist furfag telegram channels doe? Especially if they want to fuck an underage animal from undertale.
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>>55642also ut/dr is the only troonslop media I like
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>>556431. They aren't furfags nor do they want to fuck temmie( she's underage?) They just use her as a mascot
2.i lurk on there because I'm a national socialist, I also found them because some nswp copycat (considering you're russian you most likely know what nswp is) advertised them, I constantly browse all types of national socialist telegram channels (on my browser) from across the world
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>>556481.well not that temmie is confirmed to be underage but she's like small and short and talks like a retarded child so
2.cool
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>>55651I think her whole gimmick is that she wacky and unpredictable,considering she's based on a real grown woman I don't think she's underage
I also find it funny all official media depict as a small cat thing yet everybody draws her as a busty cat(dog?)girl
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>My name is tony "radiation" fox and I am a stupid nigger who can't code and a nigger who hates his own characters and doesn't give them hype moments and aura also I need to suck Nintendo's tiny asian pecker so I can release a new chapter and switch and get money from gook instead of my fanbase that actually loves my games.
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these are my criticisms.
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>>55669Thoughts on undertale yellow
I know people on the ru were obsessed with martlet for some time (Don't know why)
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shit not even nophono cares about
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>>55670fine but it feels like the game forces it;s own original characters on you evendoe they are basically plagiated from undertale, i.e.
the vampire guy (i forgot his name) = napstablook
marlet = papyrus but quirky and shy
starlo = sort of like male undyne but severly autistic
and et cetera
The designes feel like generic anthro furfags, flowey battle looks very good but it's a bit too long.
it's circa 6/10
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okay so was bored while waiting for the chapter 5 so I decided to make a little mod for undertale
using it you can replay boss fights with various challenges and modifiers and shit
vidrel is an example
download it here:
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>>55713Cool
Aren't most undertale mods aus?
I remember watching a video from eyepatch wolf sperging about undertale aus
What are your thoughts on them?
What your favorite and least favorite one and why?
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>>55715the only complete au game that comes to mind is ts!underswap. That's literally the only one, and it's unfinished. The others exist purely as comic pages and sans battle mock-ups.
Btw the goodest mod of today is undertale red+yellow
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>>55718Oh
So that's why whenever people talk about different aus they just show variations of sans
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>>55718What is your favorite and least favorite character
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>>55744I thought muffet was your favorite
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>>55753there is no muffet in deltarune because tobias foxtard can't technically legally use her because she isn't his character.
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>>55755Ah so berdly is your favorite deltarune character but muffet is your favorite undertale character
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Does no one else find the relation between Kris and Ralsei to be weird overall, there's kind of a romance hinted , and I'm fairly certain that Ralsei is supposed to be his brother too
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>>55859idk toby just loves doing faggy shit.
But i think ralsei isn't supposed to be romantic but rather overly supportive to the point of annoyance since he's literally an inanimate object obsessed with pleasing the lightners and fulfilling the prophecy and shit. I really hate the chapter 2 tunnel scene because it tries to subtly please the femboy gooner fanbase which is just very weird and awkward.
Because of that I would love to see the growth of his character into a more independent and normal one in chapter 5 like it was already started in chapter 4.
Also ralsei isn't literally asriel but he rather takes his form to cater to Kris more.
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>>55865>I really hate the chapter 2 tunnel scene because it tries to subtly please the femboy gooner fanbase which is just very weird and awkwardMaybe I'm just retarded when it comes to this type of stuff but I was always suspicious too since Ralsei blushes a lot around Kris sometimes especially when you get close to him, but I don't think he's necessarily blushing around Kris or whatever.
>Also ralsei isn't literally asriel but he rather takes his form to cater to Kris moreYea I also thought that Ralsei takes a form that is more familiar to Kris, but I've seen other theories that say Ralsei is more interested in us ( the soul/The Player) rather than Kris. It's all very confusing for me tbh, I don't really get this whole thing about who's the player and who's kris atp. As far as I'm concerned at the moment, Ralsei is probably just attracted to us since he's been locked up in the castle alone for so long, and all of a sudden he sees what he believes is his creator, and has to serve him as his duty as a darkner.
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>>55873So the player is us, the player, the little heart we control and move around, trying to play the shitty rpg that is deltarune and understand the lore. And Kris is the "character" we play as unwillingly, instead of our vessel. Kris is an already established person with a family, memory, friends and opinion, and he will at times go against our decisions as a player, especially if we do the weird route and mindbreak his childhood friend for the sake of freedom(?) or some shit. I like deltarune for how it subverts the silent protagonist trope, giving the protagonist agency outside of player. I also like how while deltarune is an objectively bad rpg with under baked mechanics, it probably ties into the whole theme into being ripped from our freedom, and so in the chapter 5 we gonna change our vessel or craft the twisted sword or some shit so we actually can gain LV and make our choices truly matter. If toby does something like that, it would be cool.
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https://greedykeeblerelf.blogspot.com/2026/03/a-critique-of-deltarune.htmltanzanite trvth nvke here to show how Deltarune is gonna shit the bed when it ends just like GOT, and Chainsaw Man btw
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>>55876ts is starting to sound like DDLC icl, btw I do remember that there were these crystals you were supposed to pick up whenever you fought the secret bosses and maybe that has to do with the twisted sword, unfortunately I missed like two and it seems like I have to restart the whole thing when the new chapters come out(not that it's that big of an issue since I enjoyed replaying the game when the new chapters came out but having to endure that turtle boss again…). I remember at the start of the game it said that your choices didn't matter, which is probably horseshit since you have the whole snowgrave/weird route.
>I also like how while deltarune is an objectively bad rpg with under baked mechanicsI'm curious as to why you think so, I'm not that deep into critiquing vidya for the most part but I thought deltarune was pretty good ig
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>>55881well basically deltarune ain't that deep mechanically, and people who love rpg critique it for the mechanics like targetting, TP, items, recruiting and etc. having little depth. But honestly deltarune doesn't need to be a good rpg, because people don't play it for the variety of playable classes or other shit, people play it for the bullet hell and the story. So it isn't really a big minus considering the fact toby likes to subvert the whole rpg genre on it's head. But I would still like a little bit more replayability
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>>55894Nonsense
The reason why Toby's games are woke is because society is woke
He's a symptom of the problem however he is not the problem itself
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>>55981Can you make a bullet pattern that's just some touhou-esque bullet hell
Idk a lot about bullet patterns in undertale (I mean idk a lot about undertale In general other than some characters)
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>>56087I hope one day you can make a deltarune remake/rewrite when the demand for it is there, this is quite impressive.
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>>56302Well clearly there's work and talent being put in but idk feel like Toby's meat munchers will just say you're ripping him off and have no originality if they saw this
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>>56303don't worry
undertale yellow is less original than me
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>>56304Fair enough, do you have ideas on the overworld yet or are you focusing on the battle engine for now?
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>>56305I will develop overworld after I finish with the battle system, yes
also, added TP grazing and invincibility frames
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>>55075 (OP)this is a better theory than the ones that half of the fucking fandom has been throwing around for the last year
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>>56360Cool
(Also I'm back)
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>>56416So what's the plan on how tension points will be used?
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/v/cucks… not like this
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>>56421just like in deltatroon, in specific acts
also I was focused on adding new monsters and features so I didn't add any new patterns lately
the text bubbles still clip evendoe I wrote the code to keep them separate so I guess I'll have to rewrite it.