Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 00:42:30 № 45776 [Quote]
Fallout 4's aesthetics and assault rifle suck but this guy is a retard if he thinks that a Honey Badger and a MCX need to be in Fallout at all. He claims Fallout 4 started the whole Retro-Futurism bullshit (and it did go overboard compared to the first 2) but it was really big in the first 2 games, then 3 and NV somewhat toned it down. Almost his whole video relies on 2 irrelevant guns from New Vegas, both of which only exist because of a small budget (source on that btw
https://www.tumblr.com/jesawyer/190694973251/why-was-it-decided-to-have-the-assault-carbine-in )
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 00:48:26 № 45780 [Quote]
It does look stupid to see irl guns in there. Like uncreative and low effort
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 00:49:11 № 45782 [Quote]
Next thing you know they'll have some soy apex legends esque gun inspection where some little gay nigger does skateboard tricks on your stock and takes a dump in the receiver
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 00:49:58 № 45783 [Quote]
>>45780 I don't necessarily have an issue with real life weapons being in Fallout, but they at least need to have some kind of retro aspect. I remember when I played New Vegas I refused to use the Marksman Carbine just because of how out of place it looked
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 00:51:22 № 45785 [Quote]
>>45782 fallout is soy enough to do this so i wouldnt be surprised if they did
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 15:18:29 № 45820 [Quote]
>>45783 it is retarded, any irl weapon made after the 60's doesn't fit, yet it's all these retards mod in
it's the same level of slop like fo4 weapons, just on the opposite side of the spectrum
chadsigma !lr8RjtFfLU 12/07/25 (Sun) 17:12:33 № 45826 [Quote]
>>45820 The m16/ar platform of firearm was invented in the 60’s.
The am/kalishnikov platform was invented before that. I have never been against similar looking weapons being in Fallout, but not to like a tacticool degree, like Millennia or something.
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 17:20:22 № 45828 [Quote]
The G11, Pancor Jackhammer, Desert Eagle, and M60. Not to mention the fictional modern polymer guns in Fallout 2 made by H&K.
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 17:58:03 № 45830 [Quote]
making fictional models from real brands (glock 86, h6k p90c, colt rangemaster etc) was a genius move and i'm baffled as to why bethesda didn't carry it over from the first two games
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 17:58:08 № 45831 [Quote]
Any gun past the 90's doesn't belong in fallout
Chud 12/07/25 (Sun) 18:08:21 № 45832 [Quote]
>>45820 I think some guns post 1960s can work. I can see a Ruger P85 in Fallout 1 & 2. Fallout 4 was retarded by adding holo sights and NV was retarded for using ACOGs.
>>45826 M16A1s and M16A2s fit in fallout, but they take on a more retro appearance by using wood like we saw with the Service Rifle.
>>45828 All of these guns were fitting because they were in campy sci-fi like the Terminator and Rambo.
>>45830 It was a genius idea but I assume they did so to avoid any licensing issues.
chadsigma !lr8RjtFfLU 12/07/25 (Sun) 18:17:11 № 45833 [Quote]
>>45832 The Service Rifles seen in New Vegas are based on AR-10’s, not M16.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 00:14:02 № 45865 [Quote]
>>45776 (OP) you misinterpreted all his arguments then came here to leak
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 00:22:59 № 45866 [Quote]
>>45776 (OP) The first 2 did have retro-futurist elements however the style was different and more serious compared to 4. Fallout 4's retro-futurism is based off the "googie" and "space age" aesthetics while fallout 1,2 and to some extent 3 was based off art deco, streamline moderne and beton brut.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 01:04:16 № 45869 [Quote]
To be fair to Fallout, while the aesthetic is definitely the 50s, the timeline obviously goes way past that. It's not entirely unreasonable to think that they may have come up with some of the same solutions we did in terms of guns and sights over the span of a century or so.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 03:08:05 № 45881 [Quote]
>>45866 I agree with this.
>>45865 marge
>>45869 I understand that point but the problem is we never see this in any of the games, even in Fallout 1 & 2. It could be introduced now but it'd have to follow an aesthetic to make it fit properly.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 04:08:11 № 45899 [Quote]
>>45881 Honestly, in relation to FO4 specifically, I'm also willing to chalk some of it up to the existence of the Institute. Plus, IIRC Fallout 4 is the furthest along in the timeline, over a century after the events of Fallout 1. Fallout 4 specifically is nearly 3 centuries on from our modern era, I'm honestly willing to believe that at some point in nearly 300 years at least someone stumbled across the idea of ACOGs and holographic sights. If the Institute is fucking pumping out androids that are nearly indistinguishable from humans, I'm willing to buy that someone has figured out some fancy gun sights geg
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 04:21:26 № 45906 [Quote]
>>45899 I concede to this. Someone somewhere probably reverse engineered their shit and came up with holosights and recon scopes.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 18:12:24 № 45949 [Quote]
fallout 1 and 2 had real guns mixed with retrofuturistic interpretations of modern fire arm designs
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:38:48 № 45972 [Quote]
>>45826 Sure, but they did not look like that in the 1960s. A CETME-C was developed by the Germans in WWII and actually deployed in Spain in the 1950s, but an HK G3 looks very different despite having basically the same mechanics. The aesthetic is the focus here.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:42:44 № 45973 [Quote]
>>45949 I'll point out that "modern" at that time was what they had lying around in the 1990s when the game was developed, which was mostly stuff from the 1960s-1980s, and they chose stuff that had a certain look. Like obviously a Whitney Wolverine was "futuristic" during a certain time, and would fit in fallout, but a gun that was "futuristic" in the 1990s or later would look out of place
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:43:31 № 45974 [Quote]
>>45869 Nah that's unimaginative and a cop-out
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:44:58 № 45976 [Quote]
>>45866 Trvke and also you seem to understand art movements fairly well
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:53:17 № 45978 [Quote]
>>45974 Look, I just don't think it's the stupidest thing to imagine that at some point over 3 centuries at least somebody stumbled across the concept of ACOGs and holo sights, since that seems to be a particular point of contention. I'm not really commenting on the aesthetics because there are definitely arguments to be made there.
Chud 12/08/25 (Mon) 23:59:06 № 45979 [Quote]
>>45978 It's not about whether it's reasonable or logical, it's about whether it matches an aesthetic vision. Obviously we did develop those solutions after the previous weapons existed and it was the logical course, but it's not an act of imagination. It does not say anything interesting that couldn't be better learned from real life.
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 00:06:02 № 45980 [Quote]
>>45979 Look, we're just gonna have to see what happens if/when Bitchthesda shits out another Fallout game. Fallout 4 in particular did at least have some reasons both in and out of lore to have a shift in the aesthetic, but right now we don't know enough about the future direction of the series to know if that's going to stick or not.
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 01:26:00 № 45987 [Quote]
>>45980 The next Bethesda Fallout game will involve trannies defeating the selfish little fuck chudcels with hecking wholesome communism
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 03:55:42 № 46000 [Quote]
>>45992 Entirely depends on whether the coming years brings continuation of globochuddy vibe shift or if there is libtroon counterreaction and ultra-intensified 2nd term global TDS which takes over all cultural artifacts a second time. Could go either way
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 08:09:37 № 46007 [Quote]
>>46000 To be perfectly fair, Trump is a gigakike and a massive pedofaggot (yes he went after little boys too), and at this point supporting him is honestly a sign of profound retardation. I say this as someone who genuinely went into his first term with an open mind, only for him to immediately throw any and all goodwill out the window less than a week in. You don't have to be a troon or a shitlib to think Trump is an absolute retard, but you're genuinely an idiot if you still support him.
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 09:16:46 № 46009 [Quote]
>>45978 This is completely fair but I'd also point out that the world has been in almost complete stagnation for the past 300 years too.
>>45973 This is also mirrored in the games firearms. Things like the Jackhammer, the Deagle, and the P90 were all real albeit futuristic and campy looking weapons.
chadsigma !lr8RjtFfLU 12/09/25 (Tue) 16:41:05 № 46026 [Quote]
>>45992 If the shitty show is anything to go off of then yes, we do.
Fallout’s story ended with New Vegas in my opinion
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 18:50:01 № 46037 [Quote]
>>46007 >Gigakike Argument could be made he's a shabbos goy, but he's been less of one compared to previous conservacucks, which is exactly what you would be going back to
>Pedofaggot Literally zero proof
>Little boys You just basically lost all credibility, you're a conspiretard who just makes things up on vibes
What is your alternative? It's to sperg out, you'll once again pretend there will be a hecking acceleration and a freaking epic boogaloo, which won't materialize and you'll get a literal black lady against a bowtie neocon actual jew and the black lady will win and force you to pay reparations while importing another fifty gorillion migroids
Chud 12/09/25 (Tue) 19:11:36 № 46039 [Quote]
>>46037 Nigger there were multiple cases brought against him for molesting little boys with out of court settlements in the fucking millions. He absolutely raped little boys and paid the families to keep their mouths shut
Chud 12/10/25 (Wed) 06:55:02 № 46070 [Quote]
Fallout 4's Combat Rifle in my opinion isn't that bad. It looks like some kind of modernized BAR.
chadsigma !lr8RjtFfLU 12/10/25 (Wed) 16:10:51 № 46080 [Quote]
>>46070 It looks like a blimp
Nothing like a BAR imo
chadsigma !lr8RjtFfLU 12/11/25 (Thu) 15:49:22 № 46122 [Quote]
>>46110 Excuse my tardness
Sidenote, I don’t really like how it looks, not that it is not a bad design, it just looks way too outdated for the pre war military to have been using on a large scale. Also I dislike that it looks the exact same as the combat shotgun.
Chud 12/11/25 (Thu) 16:31:44 № 46127 [Quote]
>>46122 It'd been significantly better if it wasn't a military firearm and just used as a hunting rifle. I do think they should go back to using the Fallout 3 assault rifle as the norm now instead of using what was originally going to be a 50. Caliber MG as an AR.
Chud 12/27/25 (Sat) 08:19:46 № 47296 [Quote]
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