>>44959Honestly, I kinda respect vegetarians, and I also understand the reasonings of some vegans; I've met a few self-proclaimed vegans that genuinely just don't want to support factory farms and shit and would actually consider eating animal products if they're provably being harvested responsibly. For me, the real test of whether a vegan is reasonable or not is whether or not they'll eat honey. Honey technically isn't vegan, but it is also completely arguable that honeybees fully consent to their arrangement because bees can and do leave beekeepers that mistreat them. If a vegan informed of that is willing to eat honey then they're probably okay. The problem is that a lot of vegans are like that one idiot who thought you get honey by fucking blending the goddamn bees