№24892[Quote]
Bottom 90% males are so weird.
I cannot imagine saying to an attractive man
>charisma and confidence is more attractive
lmfao wtf? Imagine trying to give a more attractive person than you advice on girls. That person has been attractive to the opposite sex since he was young boy.
The majority of men are ignore by girls for their whole lives until their wife picks him to be the betabuxxer and he is STILL ignored by every girl except his wife.
Modern polls show in North American households, the man does as much housework as the female.
The modern man is a pathetic loser cuck.
№24893[Quote]
>>24881>>24886you dont seem to get that attractiveness is more than bone structure, hair color, vocal inflection,ect. Being able to present yourself properly and actually being able to hold a conversation are not traits you are born with. You can be 6'5 with a chiseled jaw, but if you smell like raisin and talk like a retard no women is going to fuck you. As someone in the 18-20 range I dont give a raisin what they "prefer", I am approached be girls multiple years younger than myself in public simply based on my 'look' or whatever.
>Attractive girls and guys have always gave a raisin about their appearance from a very young age.I agree, My issue is most of your arguments seem to track with the "just mew more bro" philosophy
№24894[Quote]
>>24893This is true but because being neurodivergent is another blackpill on its own
Not the same anon
№24896[Quote]
>>24836>>24882I love how I never mention you specifically or anyone, I just use "men" as a broad generalization and you are so defensive. Tells me all I need to know.
№24897[Quote]
>>24859> I know because I am 6 feet tall and a sperg.You are not a sperg, you are just unattractive.
If you were a sperg but born attractive, that spergness would have been beat out of you by age 15.
You would have had girls throw themselves at you since you were 7 years old.
№24898[Quote]
>>24893> As someone in the 18-20 range I dont give a raisin what they "prefer"okay
I am 35 years old.
№24899[Quote]
>>24896Nigga you are replying to two different people, but if you still need attention I would be happy to continue arguing :)
№24900[Quote]
>>24893> My issue is most of your arguments seem to track with the "just mew more bro" philosophyNo, you are just stuck in your gen Z or B or A thing.
You are the most low T generation and the most pathetic.
Every generation is worse than the previous, but the gen Z gap and decline is the biggest in history.
№24902[Quote]
>>24899Sure lol. But yeah, I just like this topic. That's all.
Girls hitting the wall and alpha/beta.
I also like to talk about fitness.
№24903[Quote]
>>24897>that spergness would have been beat out of you by age 15.Keyed
№24904[Quote]
>>24901Yeah. Thing is, once you hit age 28-30, the winners and losers get really separated.
№24905[Quote]
>>24902Hey thats cool, Ive had fun doing this to
№24906[Quote]
>>24903Am I right or wrong?
>I know because I am 6 feet tall and a sperg.like dude if you were attractive, you would honestly have had girls throwing themselves at you since you were like 7 years old.
And on the internet, anyone who mentions height doesnt have looks. It is what it is.
№24907[Quote]
>>24904No doubt, thats why Ive started taking life more seriously since graduating
№24908[Quote]
>>24905Like how am I wrong though? You or the other anon kept telling me "go outside and see all the mid couples." lmfao like dude, wtf?
My main argument was the mid females would have ignored these mid dudes if said females were under 20.
№24909[Quote]
>>24906Dont think he was getting girls because of his hieght at 7, but ya- very much a non argument
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>>24907Yeah and with regards to this topic, men born in the top 10%, the reality they live in is drastically different from bottom 90% men. If men born in the top 10% get married, it is a real marriage and the girl got a top 10% man and she has no choice to be under him. Then you see the bottom 90% men get married, and you just know she holds all the cards in the relationship.
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>>24910>and she has no choice to be under him. and she has no choice but to be under him.
№24912[Quote]
>>24909And I went to the top schools in my city. Big city. 2000 plus students in my high school. I can see everything and know how much people live.
№24913[Quote]
>>24908Other anon said that, Im the blue-collar middle aged drunk who isnt even 21. Yah I do agree with you there, I think we just werent seeing eye-to-eye
>>24910Lifes a bitch, not everyone gets the same draw..
№24914[Quote]
>>24909Only unattractive people talk about their height without mentioning looks. I just dont like how people have such low self awareness. I have had girls kissing me all over since I was under 10.
№24915[Quote]
>>24914Just out of curiosity, what is it that makes you appealing to women(in your own opinion)?
№24916[Quote]
>>24913Yeah, so 90% of men means almost all men, right?
So almost all men are undesirable outside of being the man that provides $$, commitment and companionship to a post-wall female. I dont think you know how raisinty it is being an average male. I followed some guy on a busy street for like 15 mins, he was average not ugly, and no girl even glanced at home. That is how pretty much how all men live.
№24917[Quote]
>>24915idk. I just am. ask the girls. I dont force girls to look at me. it is my looks and i am just cool. I am not the best looking or the coolest but all attractive girls find me attractive. You dont need to be 10/10, just above average. I just look good. and when you hit say, 25, and every single attractive girl finds you “attractive enough” since a young age then you just know. This is why i mention early schooling because in early schooling, the girls are the pickiest. It isnt “instathots” or whatever that are the most picky. Look at all the boys in middle school or high school with admirers and female stalkers and girlfriends and you connect the dots. Cause it really is the best looking or coolest that girls like. After 20, then girls care less about looks cause they see the wall and their own looks are fading.
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>>24915Also, after a certain age, a good looking dude finds out he is better looking than most dudes. and they see how average looking dudes live their lives. I figured this out before I was 10. I went to parent interview night as a kid and saw the fathers and mothers of my classmates and thought “ew why is she married to him?” (because even 10 year old me knew what girls liked.) Then I grew up and realized “oh betabuxxer.”
Like i said, attractive girls get nonstop dopamine in public being good looking and men checking them out and men messaging or liking their online profiles.
Good looking men get nonstop dopamine just the same.
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>>24916>Yeah, so 90% of men means almost all men, right?Most men, people for that matter, have nothing unique to their being, let alone true consciousness. You cannot convince me everyone living in some 3rd-world raisinhole has hopes & dreams, let alone true awareness of their surroundings.
>So almost all men are undesirableYes, most people are undesirable for that matter. A woman who is truly "post-wall" has no stakes in the game. A single-mother of 3 welfare queen will happily settle for a utter and complete loser because he is all she can get, an average man with a bachelors degree knows he can get better. Any time I go grocery shopping there are always average men with average girlfriends/wives in their age range, I just dont think the scales are as tipped as you say.
>I dont think you know how raisinty it is being an average maleI thought I was a working-class, beerbellied man past his prime? :)
№24920[Quote]
>>24915 I went to a high school with over 2000 students so i saw and know how most high schooler live.
№24921[Quote]
>>24919What? I just said you are blue collar after you told me you are blue collar. and we can see what people that work trades look like. thats all.
№24922[Quote]
>>24919> there are always average men with average girlfriends/wivesThese average gf/wives wouldnt be with their average bf/husband if said girls were under 20. It is called “settling down” for a reason.
№24923[Quote]
>>24915Like if i was mid or ugly and everyone looked better than me, i can see that with my own eyes right? Most attractive dudes find out they are attractive by age 18 at the latest. Constant attractive and popular girls seeking you out even if they arent in your socialcircle is a tell. Girls “below you” seeking you out or “creeping” on you as youngsters say is a tell. It isnt even creeping but girls these days collectively dont like that men are always dominant collectively which means females are submissive.
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>>24915also, if you look good as a male, other good looking males give you validation on top of all the female validation. it is non stop dopamine. just imagine an attractive girl and all the likes and messages in her social media
№24925[Quote]
Only redditors and soi males or females accuse others of “being chronically.”
The whole world is online these days. Stop projecting. Youre either online or hanging out with friends and even then people have their phones out. Gen z is so pathetic
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>>24925>being chronically.being chronically online
№24927[Quote]
>>24917I suppose thats a good enough answer, when I was in elementary school the cliques and friend groups where still very much segregated by the sexes, it was only in middle that kids started opening up more(but I suppose in your day 6th was still apart of grade school).
>>24918Women like attention, simple enough.
>>24921I never told you my employment, you made the assumption that I to, had "faded" like a 'post-wall women'.
>>24924Popularity and attention is a drug, both for men and women. I never denied that. And as a man I couldnt care less about the popularity of social media. When people see you(as a man), as something uniquely special in highschool or on social media- theres no posterity to it. None of the people who kiss your ass would even think of taking a bullet for you, because they are cowards. They dont truly respect you because really they are just jealous of where your standing is, or there is just no shared interest because neither of you have any real connection to each other. I tried explaining maybe an hour ago that is the reason I am so jaded with the concept of "popularity", and would now prefer reliable male friends to braindead hoes, and in turn you called me a bitter, ugly old man
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>>24927> When people see you(as a man), as something uniquely special in highschool or on social media- theres no posterity to it. None of the people who kiss your ass would even think of taking a bullet for you, because they are cowardYeah but when you are above average in looks as a man in REAL LIFE, you are on the radar of every single girl. That is literally all it takes. So the well-being and dopamine hit is more than worth it. And that is enviable when you realize 90% of men are invisble when they go out. The dopamine hits and well-being and feel good endorphines contributes to health and well being
№24932[Quote]
>>24927We are not looking for respect from other men. The blackpill is only your looks will get you respect. And looks + achievements is just a plus. That is the black pill. Majority of men are betabuxxers providers regardless of what they achieve. That is the grim reality for most men.
№24933[Quote]
>>24927I am not even talking about "popularity." I am just talking about being born with good looks and how that is more than enough to live a life with well-being that 90% of men will never experience. Do you know how average men live? lmfao.
№24934[Quote]
>>24927Tbh, I am not exactly sure what you are discussing/debating about. The main idea is being good looking attractive is good. And contributes to many underrated things that said person takes for granted. That is it. There really isnt anything to discuss. A good looking guy is less like to have to give extra to maintain a relationship or for a girl to give him something. That's all. Better service and reactions from people. Better looking friends. Superficial? Kinda sorta not really. It improves quality of life.
And going out, looking better than everyone? Shallow, maybe, but physically attraction is a major thing.
It makes no sense why we are arguing back and forth about this. I thought zoomers are blackpilled lol.
We dont even have to talk about "good looking."
Lets just say a fat man vs a normal sized men.
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>>24927I am not talking about "popularity" just looks. I never called you bitter or old, I just said no attractive would ever down talk or down talk the importance of looking good. The simple fact that 90% of men are invisible to girls up until age 20ish while the top 10% of men have had girls as part of their life and growing up is underrated and really contributes to better social skills and life quality. Add the fact that 90% of men will never know what it is like to have female friends or gfs without $$ and betabucks being in the equation is a huge thing.
You really underestimate just how pathetic the average man is.
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>>24927>jealousGood, jealousy makes a person ugly thus making those people uglier. kek.
№24937[Quote]
>>24934This isnt really a debate anymore, moreso responses and musings. I guess are biggest differences is I just dont care as much about anything, anymore. Thats my "blackpill". I still value presenting well in public- but the game of it, the 'thrill of the hunt' does nothing for me anymore.
>The simple fact that 90% of men are invisible to girls up until age 20ish while the top 10% of men have had girlsAs I grow older, the idea of becoming invisible to the larger public becomes more appealing. Salary man arent harassed by psychotic flings and drugdealers. I was never a truly important person in my community even at my height, but the drama of living a fast-paced life just doesnt seem worth it anymore. The largest difference between us is are value in women. I dont care If im no longer appealing to 'high-value' young women, because some ditzy, "prewall" club slut cant carry a meaningful conversation. I would be much more interested in a long-term relationship with a modest, rural girl than hookingup with some young, instathot.
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>>24937Yeah it is musings. But if you are old and your looks have faded and your body, then you are not in a position to say anything. It is like a girl with faded looks saying “i dont care about looks.”
Or being middle aged working some job and retirement decades away saying “money doesnt matter.”
or a poor person talking raisin about the city while not being able to afford it anyways.
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>>24937>>24937I dont “care about the blackpill” too. It is just a truth. I like the topic because it involves fitness and bodybuilding. Thats all. Its just easy to bring up black pill topics because it relates to everything. Average guy asks me why im not married?
>bro youre mid af and you work a 9-5 and you cant even afford half the lifestyle i have. or i can go on about the betabuxx thing.
Its fun and its always funny when people argue back because statistically, majority of men are born invincible so they cant say raisin. lol.
but yeah, many topics do circle back to “blackpill.”.
unattractive with gf? betabuxxx or dont hold cards.
kek
average with gf? betabuxxx she only with you because she has no choice
№24942[Quote]
>>24937I dont value females. lol. Every girl walls hard. In fact, a brand new 18 year old on my social media just had a major change in appearance. She was tighter looking a few weeks ago. Only downhill from here.
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>>24937And in case you havent noticed, I dont talk raisin directly about any anon. You can read this thread. I just use generalizations like "most men" or "men" and all the defensive replies just come out. People dont get defensive unless they feel offended. So tell me, why does the alpha beta thing make so many anons defensive? It is in every thread or any site I post this in.
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>>24940Well as I have said multiple times now, I am decades away from being there, my feelings will probably change and adapt before then.
>>24944>why does the alpha beta thing make so many anons defensive? It is in every thread or any site I post this in.Well I cant speak for every site & individual, but here atleast we zoomers will always feel combative towards what is considered 'old slang'. The issue isnt the inherent concepts of the "Alpha" and "Beta" but that the words have been in use for atleast a decade, and have developed there own more subtle eccentricities of meanings. To you Alpha and Beta are just simple short hands for larger ideas, thats fine. But to someone on here like me it carries completely different weight because we have heard it misused by children countless times on sites like Tiktok, That why you see replacement terms popup such as "Sigma" male, Which itself has somewhat fallen out of favor.
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>>24944>>24942>>24941Well offsite anon its been fun talking to you, usually I dont get this personal on the sharty but this thread has essentially been ares for hours. Feel free to continue responding, or even start a new topic- Ill check back in tomorrow :)