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Farinacci
Francisco franco
benito Mussolini in his latter life according to padre pio
Salazar
ioanis metaxas
Degrelle
codreanu
Bandera and the other guy from the same movement
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Tbh the vast majority of european far right movements and individuals were religious and christian
only exeptions were some in the nazi party (not even the only far right movement, for ever 1 pagan there were 1 thousand protestant or catholic far righters)
italy (most anti christians were ditched early on) or idk brittain? but even mosley was religious, they just weren't religiously sectarian
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>>18365021>Francisco francoNot a fascist
>the restLiteral whos that got cucked by hitler's hyperborean BWC
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hitler, despite being atheist, promoted protestantism due to the majority of the geman population being protestants
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>>18365061salzar was head of portugal until the 70s doebeit
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>>18365061LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP
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>>18365061Hitler wasn't a fascist
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To be honest I donβt even know what to call Hitler, probably a gnostic since pagan or Christian sounds rather incorrect for him.
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constanzo ciano and His son
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>>18365099TIKhistory did a good video about this
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>>18365099he was a pantheist that had non organized or orthodox religious views heavily influenced by german philosophical traditions
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i don't think that participation in fascist movements makes a religion true or not, they were muslim fascists in places like syria
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>>18365109maybe william pierce was smarter than i thought
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>>18365115personally i would rather investigate the claims made by said religion and see if they check out historically, which i believe christianity does. I've also had personal religious experiences so there's that.
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>>18365061Hitler isn't fascist he's nazist smartypants
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tranny janny approve it already
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>>18365115Most of these ideologies were secular, they were for the nation, man-made ideologies in the end. They werenβt for a singular religion unless explicitly defined as such by its creators (such as the Iron Guard, which was explicitly Orthodox Christian, or Degrelleβs Rexist movement which was Vatholic)
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Mario and Luigi are my very best friends.
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Adolf Hitler
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>>18365202I really hope Hitler is in Heaven, though his suicide makes it hard.
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>>18365135>>18365093He was fascist under mussolini's usage of the term
Franco was too traditionalist to be called fascist imo
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No arrow.
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>>18365224he killed 80 million members of God's creation, he isn't in heaven
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>>18365225I personally think Franco was fascistic until he signed that agreement with the United States.
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>>18365236Yeah man iβm sure Hitler killed as many as Mao smh.
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>>18365247mao isn't in heaven either, and i like him
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>>18365254Iβm sure that you liking Mao speaks volumes.
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>>18365398that's giga doe
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>>18365264Mao was a true fascist nigger
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>>18365398Why should I bother replying to this?
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>>18365409Mao was a nigger indeed.
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>>18365398>No taking things out of contextatheicucks can't follows their own rules GEG
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>>18365225antonio primo de riveira
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fuck even Wilhelm was kinda fascistic
his son too
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The freikorps and their leaders like Von der goltz
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>>18365440Explain the context then.
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Hugenburg and Hindenburg
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>>18365441Inb4 some retarded nigger calls Primo de Rivera raceblind.
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>>18365441primo de rivera was raceblind though
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>>18365467On the same tier as that one supposed quote from Mussolini that says βrace is 90% a feeling and shitβ
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>>18365460i don't know much about his beliefs on race but it's probably something similar to lusotropicalism and the view the Portuguese had
racial Acceptance as a way to maintain relevance and imperial power and miscigenation as a way to softly tie them to you
not to erase the national but to expand it over the foreiner
a colonial multiculturalism not a national one
on national level he would probably oppose modern imigrations
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>>18365459adolf hitler and his inner circle defined nazism and they were nearly all atheists/pagans
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Otto von Bismarck and napoleon the 3rd
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>>18365467>>18365481no
hitler said race was 80% not real, feeling,
and he was right
its way more about skin color culture self identification and things like religion and nationality than blood
its more about pedigree then phenotype and etnicity
theres many Italians of dinarid or alpinid or Hallstatt ancestry, are they still ethnically italian? yes
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>>18364987 (OP)Explain to me why that is a relevant standard
Maybe there has never been one, I don't know
How do you even define fascism? Is it just "whatever is seen as far-rightwing by popular opinion in 2026?"
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Bait, Hitler was Catholic geg
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>>18365487outside the inner circle there were majority christian
The ideological influences on nazism were manly christian
if you remove and ignore the thule society and all the paganry, most of the german far right, be frekorps, dnvp, dvlp, the Volkisch movements
almost all christian
the conservative revolution philosophers?
most christian
the german nobility and junker aristocracy?
christian
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>>18365508You are correct in recalling that this isnβt about skin color. In fact, most of the NSDAP would disapprove of modern white nationalists since for all they believed in, βwhitenessβ as we know it wasnβt a real thing, Hans GΓΌnther talked about it.
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>>18365523scientific progress was a central component of fascism and christianity sits largely outside that
fascism was not traditionalist
90% of the braniggers equating themselves with fascists are the furthest they can possibly be from fascists
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>>18365546Many of those "Christians" didn't believe in the old testament.
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>>18365336Table Talks could be fake doe
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DIE ATHEISTARD
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>>18365579the behavior of nazi germany late war made it abundantly clear that hitler was paganistic
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>>18365598Atheism is far better then worshiping a jew.
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>>18365599maybe but still table talks hasnt been proven
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Hello Saar Iβm a aryan pagan from nu Delhi saar Iβm aryan Saar btfoing these cristcucks saar
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>>18365626Jesus is an aryan not a jew
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>>18365644>>18365626you're both retarded, jesus is a jew, and that's ok. fascism lost, christ won
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>>18365656Trump is neither.
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>>18365644There is no proof that Christ was Aryan.
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>>18365699Must not gigaquote.
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>>18365685Luke 4:16 "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read"
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>>18365685Luke 2:41-41 "Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast."
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>>18365718not really in the territory that the bible takes place in
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>>18365574
> scientific progress was a central component of fascism and christianity sits largely outside that"What is fascism" is a question that belongs to the domain of political philosophy. "Polticial philosophy" is a thing that I didn't just make up. I can tell you right now that anyone who knows what they're talking about will not define "fascism" as somethign somehow dependent on science
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>>18365577almost nobody belived in positive Christianity
there were even counter churches against positive christianism
many of which were they themselves made of former nazis
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>>18365847why? that aspect best defined both nazism and communism both of which were socialist states that largely despised christianity. the only other ideology with a emphasis on progress is democracy which is is inefficient and largely cucked because of it's heavy philosophical association with christianity and vice versa anyways lol.
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>>18365846I donβt know who needs to hear this but they werenβt really called βJesusβ or βJosephβ, by the way.
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>>18365902Democracy as you know it is a liberal aberration and as such at odds with the natural order and law that Christianity stands for.
Democracy as it is was in fact created during the times of Ancient Greece.
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fascism is more compatible with christianism than liberal democracy
even if its philosophical doctrine is incompatible or flawed
its practice and a vast majority of its beliefs on the political field aren't
if you ignore their metaphysical or more left wing beliefs it is 100% cristocompatible
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>>18365658your acting like the jews of the bible are the same as modern jews, ancient Judaism became Christianity, modern/Talmudic Judaism was created by the pharisees that denied/killed Jesus
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>>18365942christianity invented liberalism and its why liberal rhetoric correlates so closely with christianity notice how democracies preside in largely christian populations kek
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>>18365993You are shifting the definition of Jew from an ethnic term to a religious term, nobaldi thinks that Jesus was a talmudic rabbi
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>>18366018define liberalism
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>>18365993Why should Europeans follow a jewish religion?
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>>18365902Maybe you should read about political philosophy if you are so interested in political philosophy questions. And honestly political philosophy is pretty much an almost all-encompassing subject. A lot of the works of ancient historians fall under this umbrella, and definately Plato. Go read Locke, Hobbes, Thucydides, MArx, etc. pretty much any book you find at the library will prepare you to have this discussion
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>>18366032liberty and humility is at its core a christian concept its why christcucks are called christcucks
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>>18366092Humility is unrelated to liberalism (or to any ideology), itβs about not being prideful and thus forgetting who you are.
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>>18366092wouldn't collectivism be a more christian concept? it's in acts chapter 4 after all. and also the liberty as defined that came out of the enlightenment was distinctively atheist/deist
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>>18366118humility is absolutely related to liberalism and a lack of nationalism lol
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BAN ATHEISM
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>>18366129>wouldn't collectivism be a more christian concept?many communists have already proposed that and marxism definitely can be but socialism as in the state owning the means of production is usually authoritarian hence socialism's tendency towards authoritarian states retrofitted with marxist ideals
communism is more economic than social however as there are communists that call themselves progressive or traditionalist
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>>18366233in terms of state socialism i agree with you
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>>18366026We wuz the real Jews an sheeit
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>>18366092>>18366118>>18366129>>18366132>>18366135This is what I'm talking about, you teens need to go read political philosophy
> what is liberalism"Classical liberalism" is an intellectual movement that includes above all the work of John Locke. The basic premise of Locke's philosophy is the metaphysical idea that there is a god that endows man with unalienable rights.
Nobody with half a brain would go on about "Liberalism is based on muh humility and humility is le bad", frankly you sound like a retard
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>>18366026Modern jews are genetically related to the israelites. The word Jew in english comes from the Hebrew word Yehudi which refers to a memeber of the tribe of Judah.
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>>18366288i know what liberalism is, i just want him to define it. it's like cultural marxism. it absolutely does exist but people will just use it as a scapegoat for whatever they don't like.
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>>18366129The christian economic and social view would best be described as a middle way betwen indivΓdual and collective
fascism is a good example in itself
economically corporatism was based on and inspired by christian tradition
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>>18366328i honestly need to read more theory, i'm too busy with school right now
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God mogs you btw
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>>18366026jews are descendents from Pharisees while christians are descendent from hellenistic judaism
Jews splintered away after the fall of the third temple and christians consolidated
The true Israel is the church after jesus came to be not the tribe
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>>18366288>god that endows man with unalienable rights. how is this contrary to
>"Liberalism is based on muh humility and humility is le bad"liberal thought was literally created by christianity, many philosophers agree with this
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>>18366401liberalism is indeed rooted in Christianity
however not any Christianity but british Congregationalist radical Puritan protestantism
and even then many rejected it
liberalism outgrew Christian protestantism and went into a completely different gnostic and satanic way
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Romans 13, Luke 10:19, 1 Peter 2:13-15, Titus 3:1 and Hebrews 13:7.
for the ancaps and anarchists out there
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Rerum novarum is a good book if you're interested in the economic and social views of the church
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>>18366457even if protestant or orthodox still aplies bte
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>>18366439>Congregationalist radical Puritan protestantismmarge
>liberalism outgrew Christian protestantism and went into a completely different gnostic and satanic waythis is quite literally because the beliefs of christianity set that precedent. the christian purity spiral lead to the extreme moralfagging that modern day liberalism is in the west
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>>18366547+ and its also obviously more prevalent in protestant populations that have no church to control them
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>>18366288 you're both stupid, Jesus Christ was Jewish and if you're a Christian you believe that Christianity is the true Judaism and the church is the true Israel. anything else is undefensible. read Matthew 1
>>18366401Christianity existed 1000+ years before Locke
Locke basically says "God gives you the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happienss" but that is a fundamental departure from Christianity, which says "God owes you absolutely nothing, and you owe God something."
I'm Eastern Orthodox and I don't agree with nor defend the innovations that were introduced to christianity in between the 7 ecumenical councils and the work of John Locke
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>>18366627Nice to see an Orthodox here. Are you Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox?
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>>18366627>God gives you the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happienssso the christian belief of free will
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>>18366627ProtestantGQDS own you
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>>18366662most christians don't define free will using those terms doebeit
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>>18366547>liberalism>moralfaging>purity spirallol ok
nigga fr belives the same people that advocated for pedophilia in france and transexuality in Berlin are moral and christian
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gnosticism and Masonic thoght do borrow a lot from Christianity
Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt
liberalism is such corruption
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>>18366704it doesnt matter if they do or dont, all that matters is the metaphor when it comes to the masses
>>18366717transexuality literally comes from the fact that christians believe gender roles should be attributed to your sex. it doesnt exist in asia
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>>18366661Greek but I go to Russian parishes in the USA
>>18366662No, those 2 things are not the same at all. If you find this hard to wrap your head around, it's probably because you've internalized Locke's idea of rights, which is extremely prevalent in the West.
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>>18366755pretty much everyone believed in that prior to christianity doe, also just because something is distorted by the proles doesn't mean it is inherently bad
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>>18366755dude
ok you're retarded
this is bait
transexuality does exist in asia longer even
also transexuality was indeed a satanist practice if you research into these sircles
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Redpilled is just a phrase used for anything someone considers the truth that was taken from The Matrix
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>>18366755What do I even reply to this? Itβs blatantly wrong and unserious, why are you like this?
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this is worthless guys
this nigga is just another retarded fag from idk discord
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>>18366791>>18366811
>transexuality does exist in asia longer evenwrong retard because transexuality as its known as today wasnt invented until 1900
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>>18366832Transgenderism as we know it was indeed created during the 1900s, but the idea of transitioning genders and mutilating oneβs bodies has existed for quite a long time in every part of the globe. It is still has no connections to Christianity, if anything it was more common in pagan societies.
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>>18366778>just because something is distorted by the proles doesn't mean it is inherently badwe're not talking about whether its bad even we're talking about what lead to ZOG. but yes the idea of free will is false and freedom is fundamentally an incompatible concept with societies
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>>18366892ZOG is a very ambiguous term that has had a lot of meanings since that term has existed. Are you referring to the current neoliberal period?
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>>18366864>t the idea of transitioning genders and mutilating oneβs bodies has existed for quite a long time in every part of the globeno it wasnt because the concept of gender was not even in the sphere of consciousness until the 1950's. it absolutely has connections to christianity because christians tradcons are the ones perpetuating the belief that youre a sissy female if youre a man who acts like one
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>>18366939>concept of gender was not even in the sphere of consciousness until the 1950snigga
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>>18366912>Are you referring to the current neoliberal period?pretty much everything after rome but yes that in particular
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>>18366948you dont know what gender even is do you retard, its not sex. legitimately research the history of the word
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>>18366951I think that much of ZOG is a bastardization of Christian ideals, as well as a taking of advantage of Christian charity, especially when it comes to immigration
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>>18366939The concept of gender as we know it today was popularized by John Money, a Jewish pedophile who castrated a boy and who later committed suicide. Thatβs your concept of Christianity, apparently.
> it absolutely has connections to christianity because christians tradcons are the ones perpetuating the belief that youre a sissy female if youre a man who acts like oneIt is supposed to be insulting for you to be called a sexual deviant or a sodomite, nobody forced people or told them to embrace it, insults were supposed to make you feel ashamed and thus repent.
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>>18366977>I think that much of ZOG is a bastardization of Christian ideals, as well as a taking of advantage of Christian charity, especially when it comes to immigrationthe bible and its ten commandments has a lot of blunt absolutist ideals with no exceptions. the purity spiral was bound to happen
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>>18367009I don't think purity spirals are inherently bad things, as long as you're spiraling over something worth fighting about
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>>18366995John Money wasn't jewish.
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>>18367036Data expunged apparently, I could swear I remember reading that he was. Seems like I was wrong, my apologies, the rest is kept.
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>>18366995>The concept of gender as we know it today was popularized by John Money, a Jewish pedophile who castrated a boy and who later committed suicide. Thatβs your concept of Christianity, apparently.strict idea of gender roles are enforced by abrahamic religion as a whole and whether you like it or not it inevitably leads to modern day transexuals i think iran is a good example of that.
>It is supposed to be insulting for you to be called a sexual deviant if you tell a man they arent supposed to act like a woman they'll start calling themselves a woman to justify it. really not hard to comprehend. men in the west truly believe theyre women
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>>18367077you're presupposing that the reason that transsexuals exist is because they don't conform to gender norms, which isn't true
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>>18367062In some chuddy communities they randomly call non-jews jews.
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>>18367107The modern Trans movement was started by the Jew Magnus Hirschfeld.
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>>18367110Iβm not even kidding lol, I genuinely could swear that I remember his Wikipedia page listing him as Jewish not long ago (a year or so), canβt believed I had a Mandela effect.
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>>18367136canβt believe* sorry
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>>18367134there isn't a trans movement, the def of troon just changed. also the bourgeoisie finds it profitable for said change to exist
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>>18367093>you're presupposing that the reason that transsexuals exist is because they don't conform to gender norms, which isn't truewe are analyzing at macro scale and assuming people arent smart. religion has always been particularly strict in america - they will take transitioning into women to believe that they arent being nonconformist. transexuals perpetuated themselves as a science and a institution with credibility which tricks people more easily than just a organization that defends gender nonconforming men
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>>18367107the bible exists as practically the manifesto for gender roles in the west for the past 2000 years. its so deeply ingrained into culture that trannies dont realize theyre perpetuating christian gender roles by "transitioning" into women