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I'm having a really hard time forming my opinions on him. I just don't know what to think anymore. I still think he's pretty shit but, I still can't fully say he's worse than Quote. Another poster in another thread made a really good point that, in a way, AT LEAST IN THEORY, his concept of less Rulecuckery is the right push into something more inherently Sharty culture but the problem I see here is he went far too nuclear and scorched Earth. He wanted to be the opposite of Quote and had interesting ideals but just went nuclear holocaust with it and entirely swung everything into an opposite world. And on top of the fact he still Has the Same Severe Non-Communication and Being A DNB issue as Quote did. As well as (And this isn't an excuse that the guy I agreed with made a really good point about tho) That Him not just telling Cobblestone to fuck off is Unrealistic and retarded and he needs SOMEONE to have that position. I think the Ki and Soysphere at large will be healthier with fucking no Cobblestone and just him taking up that position. Using the "Life" Excuse doesnt work either nigger you knew what you were getting yourself into. This guy frustrates me because his Anti-Namefag, less Rulescucked ETC stance is all really solid and tanzanite so I cannot consider myself a Full Blown Sugarist but the softness on Pedobaiting and OGD unban fucking fuck him up so bad for me that he's nearing Quote levels of Niggerbrim. And he had so much fucking going for him. I think he's just too young and volatile. He burned too hard too fast and wanted to not be like Quote but ended up becoming his own Version of Niggerbrim. Unlike Quote who I always kinda hated, this guy makes me feel so fucking heartbroken dude.

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>I'm having a really hard time forming my opinions on him. I just don't know what to think anymore. I still think he's pretty shit but, I still can't fully say he's worse than Quote. Another poster in another thread made a really good point that, in a way, AT LEAST IN THEORY, his concept of less Rulecuckery is the right push into something more inherently Sharty culture but the problem I see here is he went far too nuclear and scorched Earth. He wanted to be the opposite of Quote and had interesting ideals but just went nuclear holocaust with it and entirely swung everything into an opposite world. And on top of the fact he still Has the Same Severe Non-Communication and Being A DNB issue as Quote did. As well as (And this isn't an excuse that the guy I agreed with made a really good point about tho) That Him not just telling Cobblestone to fuck off is Unrealistic and retarded and he needs SOMEONE to have that position. I think the Ki and Soysphere at large will be healthier with fucking no Cobblestone and just him taking up that position. Using the "Life" Excuse doesnt work either nigger you knew what you were getting yourself into. This guy frustrates me because his Anti-Namefag, less Rulescucked ETC stance is all really solid and tanzanite so I cannot consider myself a Full Blown Sugarist but the softness on Pedobaiting and OGD unban fucking fuck him up so bad for me that he's nearing Quote levels of Niggerbrim. And he had so much fucking going for him. I think he's just too young and volatile. He burned too hard too fast and wanted to not be like Quote but ended up becoming his own Version of Niggerbrim. Unlike Quote who I always kinda hated, this guy makes me feel so fucking heartbroken dude.
Words words words didn't read + quote is a depressed faggot

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I may have been the one you saw make the point about rulecuckery, I may not have been. But I think yes, derulecucking is good, but it probably won't fix the cultural issues. Quote era (and to a lesser extent froot era) soyteens are mindraped, they will not enjoy a derulecucked board and can't hold their own and not hunk out at failtrolls. Dehunkification is good, but ultimately what will replace the hunkies are failtrolls. So we'll probably either become sf-lite with derulecucking, and the only other option is to remain a Quote era daycare forever. It's grim.

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>>18299096
Reading that back it's clear I need to sleep, ESL

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>>18299006 (OP)
I unironically think salt is a pooner

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>>18299096
Tbh its not actually ending up like this

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he's a failtroll in all likelihood and pretends to have a life so Noone finds out he goons to 'p he extorted all day so I don't really feel bad for him

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>>18299096
Derulecucking is self trolling ngl. Not because the idea of rulecucking is good, but the same problems that have been plaguing the site since Froot have never been truly fixed.

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>>18299130
Can I punish salt for unbanning ogd and being inactive with my TBC? 🀀🀀
Salt is being a bad bitch

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>>18299139
Hunkies haven't left yet. And who knows, they might not. They'll probably just get used to it. I get too deterministic sometimes. But either way I think soy kulchur is pretty much dead. We don't even come up with lore for the 'ki anymore.

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I'm of the opinion that we need a mass rulecucking and purge to make the userbase a lot smaller and preserve board culture and then slowly derulecuck it
Right now the site is simply too big

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>>18299096
>>18299207
They secretly like I think to be honest, because it gives them something to leak and seethe at. But they'll scream that Salt is ahh le bad while secretly getting giddy over have le foo-dists to seethe and lose their mind over. Meanwhile I just kinda get weirded out by all that's happening

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>>18299215
Couldn't you argue that already happened during quote?

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>>18299224
I think so too and I've said it before. All that drama with cliffcord back in August and early September, the hunkies loved it. Constantly making threads about them and arguing with them. Giving them all the attention in the world and calling you a retard when you tell them to stop because attention is what they want.

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>>18299229
Clearly not, because in late Quote era soyculture was dead and the log was very similar to this one except without gore and pepoirony

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>>18299247
The Cacacaust was really just in name because this is an age old rule with online its so fucking easily to lie. The Quote era Soyteen (people who joined like at the end of Froot or beginning of Quote) are mindraped like you said and basically all of them are conditioned to love Hunking out and Seething and looking for nonstop problems because that's all they can really comprehend how to do. The whole point of the Cacacaust to "Make HTSM go away" just made them more pissed off and likely to double down on Hunking out

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I think what we need is a newfagcaust and new cacacaust, a shutting down of offsite activities, a massive purge done by decent leadership with the clear intention of rebuilding the site from the ground up

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if the Cacacaust never happened HTSM would be not as relevant but now it's fucking unavoidable and HTSM has gone the route of being just another retarded self insert meme at this point

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>>18299264
How are you going to revive a dead culture with rulecucking? That is my point. You cannot rulecuck a demographic that has become the minority or lost interest as a whole back into caring about this place. The rules would have to be wild to weed out everyone who would never contribute anything.

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Svgarism came because saltism failed at some point
Even it's creator was named IDIEFORSALT before he sold his account
But salt should die anyway

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>>18299076
i am not a fan of your ban being pardoned

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>>18299280
At that point just make a splinter

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>>18299319
I'm starting to think that may be necessary

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Instead of Hunking out and making Salt dying post number 1390 I'd rather think about ways we could fix and move foward but Salt just doesn't care to communicate or engage.

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>>18299294
That is true

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>>18299320
I genuinely think we're at the beginning of a new splintered age here. The posty and the snappy/snarty are both new and people seem to like them.

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Try stripping this down to the essentials. I think soyculture is dead and there's no real way to revive it, especially in an organic way, simply because soyjaks aren't very funny anymore

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>>18299280
maybe we should copy what the swinny did and just leak the ips of people we banned

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>>18299215
Soyteens will naturally learn who the for is

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>>18299349
Maybe that's a good thing? I've always thought this site got too big

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>>18299326
It's going to be impossible because of what Quote has done to the culture. Hunkies and failtrolls make pretty much half of each side of the site. It ends up just being screaming match daycare. And the 'Ru is basically completely gentrified at this point I mean it's full of Unironic drawfoids. I don't know why Salt just doesn't Shut it down.

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>>18299368
he wants the ru to be a containment board and just gave up on reclaiming it

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>>18299325
How about we talk about ways to fix things that don't revolve around the admin fixing things for us? It's obvious we're dealing with a cultural problem, any attempt by the admin to fix it would be overreach with negative consequences. Did you learn nothing from Quote? Before quote was DNB he seemingly tried real hard to fix the sharty and only made it worse.

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Fleeing over hunkies raped soy kulchur

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The second soypocalypse drew a lot of offsiters away

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But yeah if you were that person in the other thread, I really do think you made a good point about the 'ki being a huge problem and part of the reason why so many Hunks exist because they just read that shit and turn into fucking robots and I'm guilty of that shit too and was a huge leaker for a while. And, It took me a while to realize why what I'm doing is ironically the opposite of what this culture actually was to begin with. Which was being free and creative with it and kind of just playing fast and loose.

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but salt is a foid doe

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>>18299379
i dont think you can fix it the only way would be to jsid, that way the failtrolls and wannabe o9a members go to the chinny, the hunkies would go to the swinny, namefags would stay on the ru, then everything else would just go to the posty

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If I was Salt I'd kick out Cobblestone, JSID the entire 'Ru. Potentially delete the 'Ki but at first just De-stoneifiy it. And keep the site limited in Rulecuckery but I would shut down the Pedo Irony shit entirely

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>>18299414
the ki contains as much info as the library of alexandria and you want to jsid, sure nobody cares about the literalwhos we 'oxxed but still

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>>18299401
Oh maybe I wasn't the guy in the other thread, I never said that about the 'ki. It's trve though, whoever you were talking to is a giga.

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>>18299368
It's sad because the site degenerated bad enough that there just isn't any new culture being developed that could be made into its own separate thing

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>>18299423
Or just remove all namefagging on the Ru, delete all the Ru namefag threads, and just kind of focus solely on archiving events and history with shit like raids and discourage internal drama. All namefagging encourages is internal fracturing and destruction from the inside.

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Pages not threads

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>>18299430
This is the worst part. The amount of lore we used to develop, creative raid operations we'd conduct, and projects we'd do as a group made this site a special place. Now it's just the twitch raiding site where people complain and post bait all day.

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If you banned NAS on soy but denamefagged and derulecucked qa maybe that can harbor site culture?

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I'm tired as fuck, so I apologize if I come off as ESL. I think the problem is that the culture has been fucked ever since Kuz's time. Sharty's culture has been built on top of the idea of baiting people by depicting them and their interests negatively alongside with /raid/ing people for the sole purpose of 'oxing them and sending 'zas their way. But after the sharty started making it big through certain events & drama, nusois started flooding in & flanderized the entire culture to the point where it feels like a parody of itself. Now you have a bunch of unfunny nusoi faggots constantly baiting each other through samefagging & low quality bait (gooner shit, troonposting, anti-christian posts, etc). It's very similar to what happened with 4chan & the /b/ board long ago. Except instead of hardcore porn & gore killing /b/, it's constant softcore porn and /v/-tier bait threads.
And before you say that it's because of rulecucking or the lack of rulecucking, ask yourself this: has the 'log ever improved under either? The answer is no. In fact, it seems like things keep getting worse regardless of rulecucking or not. I swear even during Quote-era rulecucking, the 'log still looks the same.

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>>18299484
you'd have to figure out how to get people back on /qa/ in the first place, it's been dead since quotes one board policy. Also banning NAS on /soy/ didn't help, soyjaks in the OP just become a thin veil for brimstone that would be posted without a soyjak anyway.

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>>18299496
And I think the worst part is that these same exact nusois will defend the state of the 'log by saying "it's just le shitposting". Like it's somehow a good thing that the 'log is filled with nothing but unfunny, repetitive bait threads.

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>>18299508
What if you made /soy/ OC only?

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we've seen that locking soy brings people either to pol or qway, I don't think it would be hard to move people there

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>>18299522
Then we'd need a new general board and at that point you'd just moved the problem and made /soy/ a dnb. You can't fix this with rulecucking.

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>>18299496
The problem isn’t the admin or the rules, it’s the β€˜teens themselves.

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>>18299539
Is there a way to artificially recreate 4cucks /qa/ inside the site to make most of it niggerhell but harbor culture in a specific board?

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>>18299537
Honestly the best thing I can think of doing without trying to rulecuck certain posters into existence is locking /soy/ for months. We actually did a 4cvck /b/ raid on /pol/ when /soy/ was locked. It was gemmy. We killed many gooner threads with nikacado's onlyfans archive.

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>duuude soot was the best shit o algo save me
<soot comes back
>actually I changed my mind fuck this sleepy datamining nigger

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>>18299571
That's actually a very good idea

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>>18299550
Well yeah that's basically what I said.

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You all have better commentary and Ideas than me though. I don't really have any good ideas for change.

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>>18299559
Not really cause 'jakkers need to be seen as annoying outsider pests. 'Jakkers weren't seen as natives of /qa/, everyone hated them. Which brings up a good point, if we want more 'tosses being made, we need a use and an inspiration for them. We need to be posting 'tosses offsite more, using this place as a home base just like we did in 2020. I don't care if it's xitter, 4cvck, Tumblr, whatever the fuck you guys want to colonize. It just needs to be viable as a permanent colony, somewhere you'll see other soyteens posting gems without there needing to be a raid thread. This is why soytwitter does better than us by the way, cause they exist in a site with many cultures that they can generate seetheralds from without having to coordinate it.

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>>18299639
After we raided /b/ I tried to make Operation Kway2 a thing. Making /b/ our offsite colony where we gem up brimmy threads just like the /qa/ days. Didn't catch on, but I truly believe the concept itself would save 'jakking. Making ourselves at home permanently in a board that is hostile towards us.



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