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I may have been the one you saw make the point about rulecuckery, I may not have been. But I think yes, derulecucking is good, but it probably won't fix the cultural issues. Quote era (and to a lesser extent froot era) soyteens are mindraped, they will not enjoy a derulecucked board and can't hold their own and not hunk out at failtrolls. Dehunkification is good, but ultimately what will replace the hunkies are failtrolls. So we'll probably either become sf-lite with derulecucking, and the only other option is to remain a Quote era daycare forever. It's grim.
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>>18299096Reading that back it's clear I need to sleep, ESL
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>>18299006 (OP)I unironically think salt is a pooner
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>>18299096Tbh its not actually ending up like this
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he's a failtroll in all likelihood and pretends to have a life so Noone finds out he goons to 'p he extorted all day so I don't really feel bad for him
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>>18299096Derulecucking is self trolling ngl. Not because the idea of rulecucking is good, but the same problems that have been plaguing the site since Froot have never been truly fixed.
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>>18299130Can I punish salt for unbanning ogd and being inactive with my TBC? π€€π€€
Salt is being a bad bitch
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>>18299139Hunkies haven't left yet. And who knows, they might not. They'll probably just get used to it. I get too deterministic sometimes. But either way I think soy kulchur is pretty much dead. We don't even come up with lore for the 'ki anymore.
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I'm of the opinion that we need a mass rulecucking and purge to make the userbase a lot smaller and preserve board culture and then slowly derulecuck it
Right now the site is simply too big
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>>18299096>>18299207They secretly like I think to be honest, because it gives them something to leak and seethe at. But they'll scream that Salt is ahh le bad while secretly getting giddy over have le foo-dists to seethe and lose their mind over. Meanwhile I just kinda get weirded out by all that's happening
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>>18299215Couldn't you argue that already happened during quote?
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>>18299224I think so too and I've said it before. All that drama with cliffcord back in August and early September, the hunkies loved it. Constantly making threads about them and arguing with them. Giving them all the attention in the world and calling you a retard when you tell them to stop because attention is what they want.
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>>18299229Clearly not, because in late Quote era soyculture was dead and the log was very similar to this one except without gore and pepoirony
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>>18299247The Cacacaust was really just in name because this is an age old rule with online its so fucking easily to lie. The Quote era Soyteen (people who joined like at the end of Froot or beginning of Quote) are mindraped like you said and basically all of them are conditioned to love Hunking out and Seething and looking for nonstop problems because that's all they can really comprehend how to do. The whole point of the Cacacaust to "Make HTSM go away" just made them more pissed off and likely to double down on Hunking out
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I think what we need is a newfagcaust and new cacacaust, a shutting down of offsite activities, a massive purge done by decent leadership with the clear intention of rebuilding the site from the ground up
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if the Cacacaust never happened HTSM would be not as relevant but now it's fucking unavoidable and HTSM has gone the route of being just another retarded self insert meme at this point
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>>18299264How are you going to revive a dead culture with rulecucking? That is my point. You cannot rulecuck a demographic that has become the minority or lost interest as a whole back into caring about this place. The rules would have to be wild to weed out everyone who would never contribute anything.
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>>18299076i am not a fan of your ban being pardoned
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>>18299280At that point just make a splinter
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>>18299319I'm starting to think that may be necessary
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Instead of Hunking out and making Salt dying post number 1390 I'd rather think about ways we could fix and move foward but Salt just doesn't care to communicate or engage.
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>>18299320I genuinely think we're at the beginning of a new splintered age here. The posty and the snappy/snarty are both new and people seem to like them.
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Try stripping this down to the essentials. I think soyculture is dead and there's no real way to revive it, especially in an organic way, simply because soyjaks aren't very funny anymore
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>>18299280maybe we should copy what the swinny did and just leak the ips of people we banned
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>>18299215Soyteens will naturally learn who the for is
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>>18299349Maybe that's a good thing? I've always thought this site got too big
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>>18299326It's going to be impossible because of what Quote has done to the culture. Hunkies and failtrolls make pretty much half of each side of the site. It ends up just being screaming match daycare. And the 'Ru is basically completely gentrified at this point I mean it's full of Unironic drawfoids. I don't know why Salt just doesn't Shut it down.
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>>18299368he wants the ru to be a containment board and just gave up on reclaiming it
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>>18299325How about we talk about ways to fix things that don't revolve around the admin fixing things for us? It's obvious we're dealing with a cultural problem, any attempt by the admin to fix it would be overreach with negative consequences. Did you learn nothing from Quote? Before quote was DNB he seemingly tried real hard to fix the sharty and only made it worse.
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Fleeing over hunkies raped soy kulchur
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The second soypocalypse drew a lot of offsiters away
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But yeah if you were that person in the other thread, I really do think you made a good point about the 'ki being a huge problem and part of the reason why so many Hunks exist because they just read that shit and turn into fucking robots and I'm guilty of that shit too and was a huge leaker for a while. And, It took me a while to realize why what I'm doing is ironically the opposite of what this culture actually was to begin with. Which was being free and creative with it and kind of just playing fast and loose.
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but salt is a foid doe
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>>18299379i dont think you can fix it the only way would be to jsid, that way the failtrolls and wannabe o9a members go to the chinny, the hunkies would go to the swinny, namefags would stay on the ru, then everything else would just go to the posty
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If I was Salt I'd kick out Cobblestone, JSID the entire 'Ru. Potentially delete the 'Ki but at first just De-stoneifiy it. And keep the site limited in Rulecuckery but I would shut down the Pedo Irony shit entirely
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>>18299414the ki contains as much info as the library of alexandria and you want to jsid, sure nobody cares about the literalwhos we 'oxxed but still
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>>18299401Oh maybe I wasn't the guy in the other thread, I never said that about the 'ki. It's trve though, whoever you were talking to is a giga.
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>>18299368It's sad because the site degenerated bad enough that there just isn't any new culture being developed that could be made into its own separate thing
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>>18299423Or just remove all namefagging on the Ru, delete all the Ru namefag threads, and just kind of focus solely on archiving events and history with shit like raids and discourage internal drama. All namefagging encourages is internal fracturing and destruction from the inside.
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Pages not threads
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>>18299430This is the worst part. The amount of lore we used to develop, creative raid operations we'd conduct, and projects we'd do as a group made this site a special place. Now it's just the twitch raiding site where people complain and post bait all day.
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If you banned NAS on soy but denamefagged and derulecucked qa maybe that can harbor site culture?
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>>18299484you'd have to figure out how to get people back on /qa/ in the first place, it's been dead since quotes one board policy. Also banning NAS on /soy/ didn't help, soyjaks in the OP just become a thin veil for brimstone that would be posted without a soyjak anyway.
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>>18299496And I think the worst part is that these same exact nusois will defend the state of the 'log by saying "it's just le shitposting". Like it's somehow a good thing that the 'log is filled with nothing but unfunny, repetitive bait threads.
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>>18299508What if you made /soy/ OC only?
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we've seen that locking soy brings people either to pol or qway, I don't think it would be hard to move people there
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>>18299522Then we'd need a new general board and at that point you'd just moved the problem and made /soy/ a dnb. You can't fix this with rulecucking.
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>>18299496The problem isnβt the admin or the rules, itβs the βteens themselves.
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>>18299539Is there a way to artificially recreate 4cucks /qa/ inside the site to make most of it niggerhell but harbor culture in a specific board?
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>>18299537Honestly the best thing I can think of doing without trying to rulecuck certain posters into existence is locking /soy/ for months. We actually did a 4cvck /b/ raid on /pol/ when /soy/ was locked. It was gemmy. We killed many gooner threads with nikacado's onlyfans archive.
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>>18299571That's actually a very good idea
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>>18299550Well yeah that's basically what I said.
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You all have better commentary and Ideas than me though. I don't really have any good ideas for change.
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>>18299559Not really cause 'jakkers need to be seen as annoying outsider pests. 'Jakkers weren't seen as natives of /qa/, everyone hated them. Which brings up a good point, if we want more 'tosses being made, we need a use and an inspiration for them. We need to be posting 'tosses offsite more, using this place as a home base just like we did in 2020. I don't care if it's xitter, 4cvck, Tumblr, whatever the fuck you guys want to colonize. It just needs to be viable as a permanent colony, somewhere you'll see other soyteens posting gems without there needing to be a raid thread. This is why soytwitter does better than us by the way, cause they exist in a site with many cultures that they can generate seetheralds from without having to coordinate it.
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>>18299639After we raided /b/ I tried to make Operation Kway2 a thing. Making /b/ our offsite colony where we gem up brimmy threads just like the /qa/ days. Didn't catch on, but I truly believe the concept itself would save 'jakking. Making ourselves at home permanently in a board that is hostile towards us.