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 â„–18220676[Quote]

It is required that knowledge be founded within the bounds of existence.
So why do we think it strange that we "don't know" the nature of existence itself?
Is it not something that is naturally not meant to be known?

 â„–18220678[Quote]

mymy is a poop queen built for stinky nigger logs.

 â„–18220711[Quote]

some things we'll never be capable of measuring with any machines we'll be ever able to create ever, or we'll never understand what we're trying to study in the first place. we just dont know, 99.999% of the world of the exists around us and even more than that we'll never completely understand or understand it was a thing to begin with

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>>18220678
she's built for BWC

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>>18220678
OP, answer his philosophical solution.

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Schizo Wholesomejak poster is this you?

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>>18220711
mega esl moment i need to learn how to fucking type without fucking everything up

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>>18220676 (OP)
The nature of reality can only be observed by things within the "box" of reality, but this does not mean we can't see the evidence of things poking in from outside the box, for example, if we have a creator and he has put his hands in the box and or supplemented things that could not naturally reside within the box by itself, it points to something larger then said box, naturally.

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>>18220711
I'm not referring to things within the bounds of existence that can be known given unlimited time on paper. I'm talking about things that, given the bounds of knowledge, literally cannot BE knowledge. Such as "why" existence, exists. It just does. There is nothing to know or consider knowledge.

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>>18220742
Are you implying certain concepts are unquantifiable in a knowable manner?

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>>18220753
I imply exactly what I say, I defined my bounds.

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>>18220758
I feel like that's defeatist to imply there are always going to be things that can't be known, things that can't be known 100%? possibly, but to no degree of certainty? nonsense

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>>18220742
thats more like philosophy, its something that can be compared and quantified but we'll never be able to measure it with any degree of accuracy or really understand it. thats just most of the world

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>>18220770
Yes but it's not exactly as if what we're talking about can care about whether we're defeatist or not. It's out of the equation.

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>>18220718
OP, why are you ignoring his brilliant reply?

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>>18220781
Implying that thinking about the ultimate reality of base of things has to or doesn't have to care and that it's impartial to our feelings?

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>>18220772
Yes but I specifically refer to people trying to quantify nebulous, man-constructed concepts that apply specifically to things that would not be of this world in the first place.
(I'll try not to throw God into this as that always muddies the waters with people, plus he's not my curiosity at the moment)

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>>18220801
you mean like the supernatural?

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>>18220801
That's a dishonest distinction to try and talk about the ultimate state of reality if you go "But no i won't include the possibility of God"

 â„–18220810[Quote]

OP, you are a Jartycuck for being into philosophy. Just get laid, bro. 💀

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>>18220808
I suppose I was trying to dumb down what I said initially but what I *mean* is the same as what I said here: >>18220742
(I say this because I'm not sure if we would both be referring to the same idea of "supernatural".)

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>>18220810
I actually don't even read or debate philosophy. I just saw a hippie's bumper sticker and got to thinking.

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>>18220825
But aren't you inherently implying that by reasoning of talking about things beyond observation?

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>>18220809
You acknowledge in any concept of God that he operates in some manner of separate plane of existence (i.e not our reality) but we digress and I was not trying to make a distinction in the first place, merely a preference of topic.

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And FFS I wasn't expecting people to actually get interested in this. I'll get on the damn PC so I can type faster for you guys.

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>>18220828
It's a joke.

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>>18220836
But you said (assuming that you are op) that "it is required that knowledge be founded within the bounds of existence" and i don't think that's true unless you define knowledge as itself to be a concept "of knowing" rather then "things that CAN be known, even if only partially"

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>>18220845
I'm aware lol I just thought this prompt's backstory was likewise funny.

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>>18220848
You cannot know what doesn't exist. I work that into my definition of knowledge. I'd like to hear more detail on this:
>things that CAN be known
How do you quantify this in terms of things that categorically are "beyond" existence, such as the perceived (or in some beliefs, possibly real) "reason behind" existence 'existing'?

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>>18220868
>you cannot know what doesn't exist
dark numbers, etc
>>18220868
>How do you quantify this in terms of things that categorically are "beyond" existence, such as the perceived (or in some beliefs, possibly real) "reason behind" existence 'existing'?
By seeing the things that we can posit to have some other part elsewhere, if you see a tail around a corner, do you go "that must be all there is"?

 â„–18220913[Quote]

For example there are theorized to be 11 or 13ish dimensions and we can only see so many of them (for example time is a dimension, and is directly linked to gravity)

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>>18220889
>dark numbers
Okay what the fuck is this I just looked it up and I'm actually confused as shit. I assume you're not referring to "Evil numbers" and instead seemingly this number theory thing? If possible could you give me the long and short of it? Because I've not a clue what the fuck "∀x ∈ (0, 1]: |SUF(x)| = ℵo" being incorrect is supposed to mean.
>By seeing the things that we can posit to have some other part elsewhere, if you see a tail around a corner, do you go "that must be all there is"?
Where do you assert that this applies beyond the bounds of existence?
>>18220913
>For example there are theorized to be 11 or 13ish dimensions and we can only see so many of them (for example time is a dimension, and is directly linked to gravity)
What time and gravity is and how much we know about them still fits within the bounds of existence. We can observe it, its effects and we can know that things are true and not true of it. That requires it to exist in order for this to be the case. Scientific theory is no different, just variably more nebulous, but as long as it can remain scientific at its core it fits these bounds.
What I am talking about is any concept in which these bounds I have established categorically cannot apply.



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