>>17406191I understand what your saying, and I don't even disagree, but I think the wrong people with the wrong views are currently leading a lot of the philosophical discussion on the right. Right now, if someone on the right claims to have some sort of philosophy beyond being a basic bitch trad, most of the time it's some form of "extreme" self deterministic, accelerationism adjacent ideology, usually loosely based on Nietzsche or Evola. I just don't think this sort of philosophy is capable of self sustainment, let alone the coordinated, directed, and purpose driven focus that an ideology capable of successfully subverting the current cultural Marxist institutions would need. I think the best example of this approach constantly failing would be the groypers, where Fuentes claims he wants to infiltrate and subvert the current institutions, but ever election cycle, he just ends up trying his viewers "vote for the other guys, and then maybe things will get bad enough that society will collapse and then we can come out on top."