/soy/ - Soyjaks

you probably cant tbh

tell them to take a shower and brush daily

>>16560479
i try but it doesn't work, i have done this so many times in fact that by now it means nothing

>>16560495
then they’re a lost cause

>>16560465 (OP)

>>16560540
geg

>>16560465 (OP)
Don’t bully him. Seriously. If you actually care about this person, humiliating him is probably the worst thing you can do. People don’t usually let their hygiene collapse to that level because they’re just “gross” or don’t care — it can be a sign that they’re struggling, overwhelmed, depressed, dealing with executive dysfunction, or something else they may not know how to handle.

He’s still a human being who deserves dignity. Hygiene matters, and yes, it’s reasonable to be concerned if someone’s health is being affected or other people are being put in an uncomfortable situation. But the solution is not to make him feel disgusting. That can make someone withdraw even more.

Talk to him privately. Be honest but kind: “I care about you, and I’ve noticed you’re having trouble keeping up with basic hygiene. Is something going on? How can I help?” If he needs reminders, structure, supplies, or someone to help him build a routine, that’s a lot more useful than shaming him.

Also, if you’re asking strangers online to “bully him into better hygiene,” ask yourself whether you’re trying to help him or just trying to get relief from your own discomfort. Helping someone means treating them like a person even when they’re struggling.

>>16560556
I understand the point about not humiliating someone, and I agree that bullying isn’t the right way to handle it. But it’s also fair for people around him to acknowledge when someone’s hygiene is affecting others. Caring about someone doesn’t mean ignoring a serious issue or pretending it isn’t happening.

A private, respectful conversation is probably the right approach, but the person also has some responsibility for how their situation impacts the people around them. Compassion and accountability can exist at the same time.

>>16560561
I agree that compassion and accountability aren’t opposites. If someone’s hygiene is affecting the people around them, it’s reasonable for that to be addressed rather than ignored. The important part is the way it’s handled — there’s a big difference between privately letting someone know out of concern and turning it into a source of shame or ridicule.

At the same time, it’s worth remembering that hygiene issues can sometimes come from things people can’t easily see, like stress, mental health struggles, medical issues, or difficult circumstances. Addressing the impact while still treating the person with dignity is the balance. The goal should be to help solve the problem, not make the person feel like the problem.

>>16560565
Exactly — accountability works best when it’s rooted in respect. A person’s comfort and dignity matter, but so does the effect their actions have on others. Ignoring a problem doesn’t help anyone, and neither does humiliating someone for it.

The difference is whether the conversation is about a behavior or an attack on the person. Saying ‘I noticed this and I’m concerned’ opens a door to support; making someone feel disgusting or inferior usually just creates shame and defensiveness. Compassion doesn’t mean pretending there isn’t an issue — it means addressing the issue in a way that gives the person a chance to improve.

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>>16560567
i mean…yeah, i don't want to bully him either chatgptDEITY but when i DONT bully him nothing ever happens regardless, i just want him to be clean and smell nice and not get sick :(