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>>16488685 (OP)I prefer gigabasedsissy personally
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>>16488707*smokes manly cigar*
liberals are the real racists and the real nazis when you think about it
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>>16488713As long as the gays don’t make it their whole personality it’s fine with me
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>>16488713Being a cuck is ok if you don't make it your whole personality you know. I have a black bull named Jamal who is a super nice guy. And yet liberals still call me raycist!
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>>16488713Libertarians don’t say this doe wit in fact they tend to side with liberals more often than conservatives
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>>16488738vast majority of conservatives have basically libertarian economics which equates to libertarian social views at the end of the day. people like charlie kirk etc would wag their fingers at troons but in terms of actual policy they would never ever ever ban HRT or surgery for adults for example
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>>16488713Based black man
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>>16488698Do goyim really
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>>16488746Marge this is false. Conservatives literally have tried to ban troons owning guns and getting surgery and shut like that. Libertarians are literally only one step above liberal (at least in the classical sense) american “liberals” bastardized the word
Btw I know nophono cares but my autocorrect changed “troons” to “grooms” and I think that is very geggy
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Accidental sage
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>>16488750its the statists bro stop being a woke right anti semite and learn to transheart big business
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>>16488757This but unironically minus the last 6 words
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>>16488752when? trump just legalized tranny surgery for children as long as they have parental consent
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>>16488764jew or retarded goyim?
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>>16488791absolute braindead retarded lolbert goyim it is
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>>16488773Also Goya are loyal statist zogslaves and Jews hate individualism and anti-authoritarianism
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>>16488792Psyop detected
Ignoring you now nigger
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i'm actually just going to convert atp and move to israel i can't take it anymore
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>>16488800So? hoppeanism was made by a kike doesn’t mean all anti interventionism is joobait. Plus look into free market anti-capitalism
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>>16488803Do this so BJC can rape your anus
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>>16488757They'll never seem to figure out what ethnicity consists almost entirely of statists.
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>>16488817Idk I tend to side towards left wing minarchism/mutalism but my political beliefs are mostly economic and not really social. I’m progressive I guess but not to the point that I’m a fag about offensive shit
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>>16488874>Minarchism>Left wingDoes he know?
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>>16488879Minarchism just means small government retard I know it’s been co opted by righties but it’s not necessarily that. Hell I would call myself an anarchist if I didn’t recognize that anarchy can’t really function outside of small groups
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>>16488817Too lazy to look it up but I’m pretty sure he’s Jewish
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>>16488886>Small Government>LeftismDoes he know?
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>>16488817Nvm I was wrong he’s German not jewish
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>>16488901Leftism just means employee ownership bro it can exist without a state
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>>16488908I mean. Thats one way to define it ig. Employee ownership has to be enforced by a state though man. Otherwise private ownership would form and people wouldn't be able to stop it.
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>>16488901Leftism has nothing to do with the state and everything to do with control over labor and its product.
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>>16488917That’s why I’m not an anarchist (it can exist in theory but irl Somebaldi is gonna privatize)
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>>16488918Who enforces the control over labor and its product.
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>>16488863see
>>16488800also the nazis, fascists, maoists, FDR and stalin were all statists wtf have jews done to your brain
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>>16488917Also you underestimate how powerful a well armed society is at keeping things under control. Probably not as good as a central government but still not half bad. Look up what the Spanish anarchists were able to do (for a bit)
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>>16488923That kind of enforcement would necessarily require a state larging than that found in minarchism. Which is based, and so is your definition of leftism as long as it isn't internationalist. Just embrace authoritarianism man.
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>>16488925The working class in theory, in reality it would probably be a small state that ensures ownership remains in the hands of the worker
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>>16488934he said he was progressive socially doebeit so xhe is never going to be in favor of an oppressive evil nazi state stopping transqueens from existing
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>>16488934Authoritarianism necessitates immorality
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>>16488937Yeah they didn’t last long but tbh what they had in that time was impressive
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>>16488943Not if its lawbook is the bible. If you aren't religious morality lacks objectivity and therefore doesn't matter.
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>>16488945Secular morality exists though you can base it off volition or what is evolutionary beneficial to do.
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>>16488944I'll look into it. I've only read about the Spanish civil war from the perspective of the Nationalists and Republicans (mostly through George Orwelle's account.)
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>>16488950What makes something evolutionarily beneficial good? What makes that any better than trooning out or raping nigs?
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>>16488955I guess just doing what would benefit the species long term. Like murder would be bad because it reduces the population and troonery for the same reason. Rape would be bad because it stresses the victim out and also can cause damage to the reproductive system
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>>16488943how doe this depends entirely on your definition of immorality. you could just as easily say that anarchy necessitates immorality because it allows trannies and pedophiles to exist
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>>16488966Why is benefitting the species good tho?
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>>16488955To be clear I don’t follow this kind of morality my moral code is based on volition plus some egoist stuff (no I’m not fully an egoist) but that’s how it could work in theory
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>>16488966Just take my questions seriously and answer them seriously, i promise this is going somewhere
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>>16488972I'm uneducated on volition, and very unfortunately overeducated on egoism. Glad you're not THAT retarded.
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>>16488970Cause if it doesn’t survive then everyone dies? At some point I guess it would just come to a axiom like “the species survival is our top priority and everything moral serves to further that”
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>>16488986Why is everyone dying bad tho bro. We can do this forever. Theres no moral foundation to stand on without God.
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having a strict morality based off of le logic and le reason and le reddit is gay just hate stuff for no reason
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>>16488984I like to say Mac stormer was a very fucked up clock that was right a couple of times. His point on selfishness and how every consensual action can be reduced down to some form of self interest was true but beyond that he missed the mark by lightyears
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>>16489000I believed this before I found God. Still kinda true when you really get down to it. Just the way we were made.
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>>16488993That’s why it would probably have to converge to an axiomatic point that says “humans dying out is le bad”
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>>16488993tsmt although you can eventually make a logical argument deboonking god so that doesn't solve the problem either. humes guillotine or whatever, morality has to just be made up for no reason and enforced or convinced onto people
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>>16489013But again mane why is that axiomatic
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I used to be a moral relativist until I turned 12 geg
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>>16489017I'm unfamiliar on the argument. Basic rundown? I can look it up later if its complicated.
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>>16488698he is actually indian btw
just larping as a christian for twitter money
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>>16489026Because if it isn’t then you just spiral down the “why is humanity dying bad” hole. It has to come to some point otherwise you could just go back and forth. This applies to your argument too btw since I could rationally say “but why is gods will good?” At some point you’d have t on say “gods will is good because he says it is”
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>>16489030Idk what he’s talking about but there is a very valid argument Calle draw epicurean paradox that points out god can’t be the 3 omnis
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>>16489030humes guillotine says that you can't base an "ought" off of an "is".
>you should wear a coat outside<why>its cold<why should i wear a coat if its cold>um you will freaking freeze to death?<why is that bad?>because you'll DIE?? and thats bad because it just IS ok??etc
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>>16489048God's will is good because we can reason through his actions that he is omnipotent, all powerful, and is PROBABLY acting in a fully moral matter. We can't be sure of anything or any of this nor can i be logically "proven." Its more likely the Christian God is real than not, and more practical if he is.
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>>16489061Okay so basically socratic methoding it exactly what I was doing before.
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>>16489058Should i look it up o algo
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>>16489070>more likely the Christian God is real than notmeds, your god is an axiom you've arbitrarily decided on just like me and the other guy
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>>16489078Okay but thats not arbitrary. The happenings in the world point towards his existence. "Humanity surviving is hecking good cause it just is okay?" Is not the same as "God is probably real because of
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not saying whatever emotional experience you'll probably say you had with god isn't real or whatever but i base my views off of my emotions too. you just cant logic past that base
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>>16489084I have had those experiences, but they weren't the reason i came to God and fundamentally not why I'm a Christian.
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>>16489088then you're retarded nigga i would respect you more if you just said you had esoteric knowledge or a dream or whatever. you can't logically deduce something with no proof
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>>16489092I just said I wasn't logically deducing it nigga. I'm making a judgement call based on the evidence apparent to me. There is no logical deduction for God or against.
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>>16489092And for the record I DO have esoteric knowledge. Just not very good for convincing others.
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>>16489096>based on the evidence apparent to me.>here is no logical deduction for God or against.make up your mind
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>>16489099You know theres a difference between evidence and proof right? There are things that suggest God is probably real and that atheism is probably false. Nothing that 100 percent confirms either standpoint.
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>>16489107so get on with it and post your proof pretty please
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>>16489112Explaining my evidence would take 8 gazillion years and I need to go to sleep. I'll link my vids. Again, none of its proof that 100% confirms God. Just things that make God more likely than not.
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>>16489107Idk man I would argue the other way. The universe is so chaotic and flawed and the arguments for god like the clockwork one fall apart because they put the cart before the horse. Hence my agnosticism. I recognize god COULD exist (his existence is not logically contradictory), but there is absolutely no evidence/proof that he MUST exist. There are an infinite number of ways the universe could have come into existence
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inb4 its the classic THERE ARE 3 GAZILLION PARAMETERS THAT MAKE UP THE UNIVERSE… AND IF ONE WAS OFF BY EVEN A NIGGERMETER THEN IT WOULD COLLAPSE INTO A BLACK HOLE!
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>>16489132Literally what I was gonna say but I wanted to be respectful geg
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>>16489132Yeah but whats the counterargument to this. I haven't discussed that argument with anybody intelligent enough to have a nonemotional conversation.
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>>16489130Most of my arguments are historical ones. I believe the bible is a more credible historical work than the majority of ones commonly accepted by scholars.
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>>16489137It’s like a puddle assuming that the hole was built for them. We evolved to exist in this universe, hence the only frame of reference we have is the one we live in. If the parameters were different we either wouldnt exist or would be having this conversation in different bodies that evolved around those different parameters
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>>16489143Finding a good enough vid to explain my beliefs o algo
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>>16489137why wouldn't it apply to gods brain/mind too? you can say the universe could've just popped in and out of existence instantly if things were slightly different, but what if god liked making universes that instantly pop in and out of existence? why would he have an interest in making universe at all, much less life, much less in his image?
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>>16489146Checks out. There are better ones anyway.
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>>16489150what if things were slightly different and god just had a seizure endlessly? etc
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>>16489047really? is this common?
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>>16489159Incredibly, they get paid by elon for engagement. Its pennies for an american but riches for a jeet.
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>>16489148its way too late at night for me to watch this vid all the way through but this guy's other stuff is decent so maybe its good enough o algo. Watch it if you feel like it.
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>>16489162We should pay jeets to eat change and dig it out of their stool
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>>16489172They already eat cow dung. They'd do it.
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>>16489175No way that has to be fake
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>>16489180I get on my hands and knees and thank God for making me white every day.
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Nuke India
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>>16489162Would you do this if you lived in shitdia
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>>16489200Probably. What else could you do? Works better than the ai content farms. Bait is effective, as this website demonstrates.