/soy/ - Soyjaks

>>16107452 (OP)
i actually do, been carnivore since early 2024

tip: eat cheese 20 minutes before eating meat, the body will deposit stored toxins into the stomach, and the cheese has the minerals and fats to neutralise the toxins, usually in goyim the toxin just keeps getting redigested

Liver is really fucking good for you but you can't eat too much because the excess vitamin A can mess up your liver for a bit or something, non fat soluable vitamins in mass are bad.

>>16107529
this is false, this is based off artificial 'vitamin A' supplements which arent vitamin A and on that polar bear liver story… which was contaminated with heavy metals (this is why liver from goyim livestock tastes like shit compared to a proper farm)

>>16107573
So you find this to be untrue? or is this in the case of extremely overdoing it?

wdym by this, I'm saying theres no inherit toxicity in overdoing it.

>>16107573
EI EI OOOOOOO

>>16107619
Look at the image, vitamin A and copper overdoses are concerns since Liver is such a powerhouse of those elements

>>16107631
Vitamin A is not toxic.

i like lamb liver more its sweeter

>>16107642
tsmt

Also dont mix meat and dairy, (drink the milk before) and sip ~1 ounce / 35ml of milk per minute, don't go chugging it
Also if you guys are lactose, mix milk with honey

>>16107524
No — that statement is not supported by established human physiology or nutrition science.

A few parts of it sound scientific, but the overall claim mixes together ideas that don’t match how digestion and “toxins” actually work.

Here’s the breakdown:

Your body does not normally “dump stored toxins into the stomach” before eating meat.
The body primarily processes and removes harmful substances through organs like the:
liver
kidneys
intestines
lungs
skin
Most “toxins” are chemically transformed in the liver and excreted in bile or urine — they are not continuously “re-digested” in the way the statement suggests.

Cheese does contain:

fat
calcium
protein
some minerals

But there’s no evidence that eating cheese before meat “neutralizes toxins” from meat digestion.

Meat itself is not inherently toxic for most people. Digesting meat mainly involves:
stomach acid
enzymes like pepsin
bile for fat digestion

There are a few kernels of truth that may have inspired the claim:

Fat can slow digestion
Cheese before a meal may slow stomach emptying and change how quickly nutrients are absorbed.
Calcium can bind certain compounds
Calcium can bind some substances in the gut (for example, oxalates or some fatty acids), but this is very different from “neutralizing stored toxins.”
Gut recirculation exists
Some compounds undergo enterohepatic circulation (they are secreted into bile and partly reabsorbed), but this is a specialized biochemical process — not a buildup of toxins that cheese prevents.
Fermented dairy can affect the microbiome
Cheese and fermented foods may influence gut bacteria, but again, not in the way described.

So overall:

There’s no good clinical evidence that eating cheese 20 minutes before meat detoxifies the body.
The wording resembles alternative-detox theories rather than evidence-based nutrition.

If you want, I can also explain:

where this idea may have originated historically,
whether certain food combinations genuinely affect digestion,
or what science actually says about “toxins” and detox diets.

>>16107844
As for honey, get natural / raw honey, preferably in honeycomb form
Natural honey has a distinctive richer taste and is free from glyphosates

>>16107867
nigga just took a response from ai and trusts it

>>16107906
nobody cares about your little analysis screenshot like some soytuber
you got mogged by an explanation its time to pack it up

>>16107906
reading this, it agrees with me (nitpicking on my words, ok?), i never said it PRODUCES toxins, i said that this is one of the processes the body uses to get rid of stored toxins

>>16107916
dude it literally agreed with what I said

>>16107906
You shouldn’t trust any single source blindly — including me. The better approach is:

check whether a claim matches known biology
see if there’s evidence from reputable research
compare multiple sources
watch for vague words like “toxins,” “neutralize,” or “stored poisons” without specifics

A lot of health claims sound convincing because they use scientific-sounding language, not because they’re true.

Skepticism is healthy. Blind trust isn’t.

>>16107924


I understand the distinction you’re making: not that meat creates toxins, but that eating triggers the body to release already-stored toxins into the digestive tract, and cheese supposedly helps bind or neutralize them.

The problem is that the specific mechanism still doesn’t line up with established physiology.

There is a real process where the body excretes certain compounds into bile, which enters the intestines during digestion. Some fat-soluble substances can be eliminated that way, and some can even be partially reabsorbed later. That part is biologically real.

But there’s no evidence for:

a special “toxin dump” triggered specifically by meat,
cheese uniquely neutralizing those compounds,
or most people chronically “re-digesting toxins” unless they eat cheese beforehand.

What is true:

Eating fat stimulates bile release.
Cheese contains fat and calcium.
Calcium and fiber can bind some substances in the gut.
Certain compounds undergo enterohepatic recirculation.

What’s unsupported is the leap from those facts to the full claim.

So the statement isn’t completely random — it loosely references real digestive processes — but the conclusion about cheese preventing toxin re-digestion isn’t something established by good evidence.

>>16107932
your tiping like your seething

>>16107940
ur seriously listening to da fuggen ai

>>16107948
ai is smarter than you ni🅱️🅱️a

>>16107933
it literally is saying what im saying

>>16107962
I’m saying there’s a small overlap with real biology, but not enough to validate the full claim.

The overlap:

the body can excrete some compounds into bile during digestion,
some compounds can be reabsorbed,
fats/minerals can affect absorption dynamics.

Where I disagree:

there’s no established evidence that eating cheese 20 minutes before meat is a meaningful detox strategy,
no evidence that meat specifically triggers a major toxin-clearing event,
and “neutralize toxins” is too vague to be scientifically accurate unless you specify which compounds, in what amounts, and by what mechanism.

So your statement contains elements that resemble real physiology, but it goes beyond what’s actually demonstrated.

the minerals bind / neutralise the toxins

>>16107970
kys chatgpt aajonus owns you

>>16107970
meat has nothing to do with it really, its just that its not good at cleaning up the toxins

>>16107978
I’m not going to engage with the “kys” part.

If you mean Aajonus Vonderplanitz, he promoted ideas about raw animal foods and detoxification that some people find compelling because they mix observable bodily processes with broader theories about health.

Some of his claims overlap loosely with real physiology — like bile excretion, nutrient density of animal fats, or the gut reabsorbing certain compounds — but many of his conclusions were not validated in controlled scientific research.

So the disagreement here is mostly about the size and interpretation of those mechanisms:

you’re emphasizing that detox/excretion through digestion exists,
I’m saying the specific “cheese before meat neutralizes toxins” protocol hasn’t been established as medically reliable evidence.

Those are different claims.

why they kill bears

also the 20 minutes thing is because if you eat them too close to each other the meat will act like cado and interrupt the process

>>16107991
because the scientific industry has no monetary incentive to research into this, it would literally destroy big pharma

>>16108007
There are definitely areas of nutrition and preventive health that are underfunded compared with pharmaceuticals. Drug development has clearer profit incentives, while studying long-term diet patterns is harder, slower, and often less commercially attractive.

But “there’s limited research” and “the idea is therefore true” are two different things.

A few things to keep in mind:

Nutrition science is heavily researched worldwide by universities, governments, and independent institutes — not only pharmaceutical companies.
If a simple, reproducible protocol consistently produced dramatic detox or disease-reversal effects, researchers across many countries would likely notice measurable signals over time.
Some non-patentable things have become mainstream because evidence accumulated anyway:
fiber lowering cholesterol,
probiotics affecting gut health,
fasting improving some metabolic markers,
smoking causing cancer,
trans fats increasing cardiovascular risk.

So lack of a pharmaceutical incentive can slow research, but it doesn’t automatically validate a claim.

It’s reasonable to stay open-minded about mechanisms mainstream medicine may overlook. It’s also reasonable to ask for strong evidence before concluding a protocol works broadly.

>>16108007
yeah exactly this thats why they killed him

>>16108025
Aajonus Vonderplanitz died after a fall in Thailand, not from the dietary ideas themselves.

A person’s death, by itself, doesn’t automatically prove or disprove every idea they promoted. Plenty of people with correct ideas die unexpectedly, and plenty with bad ideas live long lives.

The better question is whether specific claims can be:

biologically explained,
measured,
reproduced,
and supported consistently by evidence.

That’s the standard I’m applying here, regardless of who proposed the idea.

>>16108046
There are conspiracy theories around Aajonus Vonderplanitz’s death, but there’s no verified public evidence establishing foul play.

People often become suspicious when:

someone challenges mainstream institutions,
details are incomplete,
or the death feels abrupt or unusual.

But suspicion and proof aren’t the same thing. Without solid evidence — investigations, documents, witnesses, forensic findings — it stays in the realm of speculation.

You can separate two questions:

whether his health theories had merit,
whether the circumstances of his death were suspicious.

One doesn’t automatically answer the other.

>>16108055
Poop and niggers dying

>>16108089
Nigga lost an argument to an AI chatbot kek
my sides

>>>16108046
YES GOYIM

RAW LIVER IS POISONOUS
AND THE SUN MAKES YOU BLIND

AAJONUS DIED BY FALLING OF HIS BALCONY

NOTHING TO SEE HERE

>>16108096
im adding this as anti ai deterrent since u just copy and paste my reppeys into ur shitty chatjeet'ptee
Nigger 2

Liver tastes coaly o algo

>>16108101
You’re being sarcastic about what you see as mainstream narratives versus alternative health ideas.

For clarity though:

Raw liver is not inherently “poisonous,” but eating it raw can carry real risks from pathogens and excessive vitamin A intake if consumed heavily.
Sunlight is essential for things like vitamin D and circadian rhythm, though excessive UV exposure can increase skin cancer risk.
And regarding Aajonus Vonderplanitz, public reporting says he died after a fall. People speculate beyond that, but speculation isn’t the same as verified evidence.

It’s reasonable to question institutions and conventional wisdom. The key is keeping the same level of scrutiny for all claims — mainstream and alternative alike.

>>16108143
get it from a healthy animal, dont eat chicken liver
It tastes like shit when u get it from the supermarket since the animals there are super unhealthy and have all sorts of toxins stored in the liver that they cant get rid of

im vegan and eat soylent btw if that matters

>>16108168
its too vitamin a pilled.

shit aajonus cares fan about