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Christ is kang portubro
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>>4018092Ononononononononono
PORTUBROSNot like this
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>>4018101what argument?
are you talking about
>you are alive because christian moralsbecause you have yet to prove that
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>>4018101People yesterday racked up 200 replies over this,people do care
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Also if the fall of the western romam empire was because of christianity, why didnt the eastern roman empire fall
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>>4018109(It fell but 1000 years later that is what i mean)
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>>4018109because the east and west are different dummy
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>>4018115They were the same shiet mane
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portcuck yelling about fucking nothing exhibit #5343543644
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In my opinion it fell because of emperor instability, wich was before christianity, those niggas prefered eating and fucking instead of ruling
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>>4018118clearly not, history proved that
>>4018119my mom was pro-abortion her whole life nigga, christian morals dont do shit
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>>4018124>wasIm sorry bro
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>>4018127she is still alive im just esl
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>>4018124nigga she had you, thats saying something despite how you fucking turned out. i wish she aborted you so we dont have to read your fucking dogshit threads daily
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>>4018124ok, if not her probably your ancestor would stop your family tree not even bothering.
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>>4018130kindergarten tier comeback
>>4018131why would that happen?
is your point that only christians have kids?
you know that abortion became a common thing only recently right?
this is a retarded argument
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only a few generations of my ancestors were christian, christianity only reached eastern slavs around 1k years ago which is not that much
your entire argument is that christianity = lack of abortion which is not even true
european tradition was just fine without christianity
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>>4018136not saying that that's what exactly would happen but that could happen if not morals. If not them, you could die at the age of 6 and nophono would care about you
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>>4018142the christian moral framework is not the only moral system in the world retard
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>>4018148of course it isn't but what would happen if not it
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>>4018149a different moral framework would have come in place of christian, likely focusing on our race rather than some made up deity
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attributing so much fault to christianity is dumb, the empire and even the republic had come extremely close to collapse before christianity was the official or even majority religion
if anything it was just one cause among many
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>>4018080 (OP)>Rome would have conquered all EuropeRome began slowly falling apart 80 years before Christianity even became
legal in the empire
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>>4018154spanish sissy gem
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>>4018080 (OP)It is very unlikely that Rome would have been able to conquer more territory than it did.
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>>4018152The western philosophy has not changed much since before Christianity, if anything it is Stoicism and other Greek philosophies that heavily influenced Christianity, preventing us from being turned into mindless uncivilised monkeys like the abraps with islam.>>4018152
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hitler is obviously a little optimistic about rome's outcome if it were not for christianity but the point still stands
christianity greatly accelerated rome's collapse
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>>4018156>>4018161notice how it's a gem and not coal
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>>4018160Tsmt early christian scholars were heavily influenced by Platonism.
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>>4018159Untill 117 ad it was still stronger than those around it, incidentally also around the time Christianity really started being adopted by the masses.
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>>4018160>>4018165early christianity was basically just european philosophy but "in the name of god"
christianity early on was not christian at all as it had to adapt, it slowly subverted out minds and this pacifistic mess is what the end goal always was
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>>4018166The problem was at their peak there was nobody around them to conquer. There was no reason to expand as far as Pooland as there was literally nothing there except dense forest. Not speaking about the fact that the Romans had no military tactics for dense forests.
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>>4018168>Christianity>pacifisticDiddyblud never heard of the Crusades ðŸ˜
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>>4018168Most of these "evil" things that you claim Christianity did, were only made doctrine in the past 100 years.
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>>4018171>the russian empire lost its might because a couple of jews in switzerland and germany started writing books theory>>4018172have there been any crusades by the so-called militaristic based christians in the past 600 years? where are the based chrsitians crusading against the muzzies invading our lands?
>>4018173because for the most part of its history most christian doctrine was ignored by the people in power
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>>4018169An interesting topic nobody talks about is how development makes a civilization both strong and weak at the same time. A confederacy of snca tribes is not strong enough to defeat peak Rome, but at the same time their low level of development made them extremely hard to conquer because they did not depend on governments, trade routes, generals and officials. You beat them in a battle, they retreat to the forests and regroup. Meanwhile if you destroy a civilized country's army in a battle you can just declare them your subjects and make them pay taxes and send soldiers to you.
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>>4018152it could be that and could be pagan fatalism but you can't deny that christianity did influence morals and nophono knows how exactly would the world change without it
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Blublublublublub
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>>4018169If romans kept mesopotamia, they could have kept the fight with Iranians in the zagros mountains and maybe later conquered hejaz which would have opened up a whole new world of trade with the east through the ocean. Just being stable was fine though, up to that point Rome was already prospering for 100 years in the same spot.
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>>4018186Christian doctrine was largely twisted by modernist theologians thus making Vatican II possible. There is no single unified evil christian doctrine, it is always up to interpretation.
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>>4018196wait wait romans lost to nomads in the zagros moutains?
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>>4018171It was the masses in the city, random farmers had to adopt it later with policies of constantine. The city masses were influential and changed the mindset of the empire's elite through slowly replacing them.
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>>4018185Nigga, all monotheism are the same shit.
And Christianity is communism where the God became the state and the chosen people still the same
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>>4018190This is true, this is also why the huns were so good at defeating everybaldi. They were nomadic and only lived off of pillaging, there was no way to defeat them in a concrete battle except by pure chance.
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>>4018208Because he seen a Spanish Sissy gem
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>>4018191Off topic here:
Speaking about morality, Liberalcucks and society as a whole bastardized the meaning of morality
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>>4018208he's jerking off geg
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>>4018203i dont care boi im irreligious , i see atheists and theist as two people jerking off their penisis using each others hand
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>>4018196The region you were talking about had heavy civil unrest, which needed to be crushed all ten years. It simply was not possible, they first should have focused on improving technologically and replacing the native people there with Romans, like actual colony settlements.
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>>4018208It's to show that he's a chuddy chud or something.
>>4018215Then you are atheist.
Talk about religion by it's political views here.
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>>4018162No it didnt bro, christianity kept the empire stable for some time, if it was still pagan, the empire would have brapped up earlier because of revolutions
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Mayne I miss the anti espanigger Maltese where's he now?
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>>4018225nononono nusuwa i view this as a stupid gamble of yes or no where it could be more interesting , i dont really care and i dont take it for true or false
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>>4018228He was here shortly after Salt bought the site but probably got banned again cuz he's underage.
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>>4018186Btw Slavic deities tried taking Constantinople back from mudslimes TWICE in the recnt times - in 1853 and in 1918, and both times the
ETERNAL ANGLO said "nuh-uh that would make you guys too powerful, we're gonna support the wholesome brown pypo here"
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>>4018235we miss gendered him for a pakistani at first….
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>>40182364th rome or something
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>>4018245Geg I live in a nearby datacenter so I get flagged with vpn
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>>4018236The eternal anglo always going about his
>muh heccin europe power balancelike jews. Finally they are paying the price on the form of millions of niggers killing and genociding them. Their race will forever die and be forgotten.
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>>4018248@grook data centers in the phil;lphines
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>>4018248Bro lives inside a data center
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>>4018257Geg I am also currently looking.
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>>4018257Rajah Ackron dox coming soon
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Rajah soyron is the one making all those grok replies.
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>>4018191christian morals existing =/= we exist because of christianity
>>4018197europeans slaughtered shitskins long before christianity WHEN they came in contact with them
europeans became docile when christian morality reached its end point of being pacifist and loving thy neighbor
>>4018199this is not an argument for nor against christianity
>>4018227proof
>>4018236snca
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>>4018257There are 30 big data centers in the Philibraps.
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>>4018261i mean its odd that your traffic gets flagged as vpn , i guess you have the same isp provider or something o algo(unless you use vpn server traffic which is giga opsex)
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>>4018266All of them are being used to ai generate gigas if you're wondering.
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>>4018264Well I am arguing against your belief that Christianity is inherently bad, when in reality it is all up to how you interpret the bible and the word of god.
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>>4018261chill we arent doxing but just dont spill alot of info in here
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>based european christians slaughtered da shitskins
how come da based european christians didnt slaughter the indians and negros? thanks to da based european christians america is now 50% shitskin, da based european christians bomb shitskins making them take refuge in european countries for which based christian NGOs opened up the borders
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>>4018278Ibndoue mass immigration happened after yuhrumutt cuntris turned secular
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>>4018271this is pointless to argue about because your point is anyone can interpret anything however they want, which is true but does not exactly debunk anything i said
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>>4018273You live in Bahrain next to a gym and a Doner Kebap store. Possible a cheap gym, since you have to save for it, and a cheap apartment.
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>>4018282if christianity is so based and militaristic then the christians wouldve risen up against their secular governments however that didnt happen obviously
christians tolerate all other religions because muh love your neighbor and turn the other cheek
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>>4018286i just need 10 more bhd to do a gym subscription , how ever im studying if its really worth it
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>>4018283Yes it does, because you said this specific interpretation is evil, and then you equate Christians which do not believe in this interpretation with that. I could also point you out to some braniggers being NS, but that does not mean you are a branigger.
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>>4018278>how come da based european christians didnt slaughter the indians and negros?Diddyblud, were the Romans genociding jews and ethiopians for no reason until they were suddenly stopped by Christians? No? Then what the fuck does that have to do with Christianity?
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There's also Christianity's obsession with spreading itself to Niggerhells and tribal societies. By doing this they also spread reading, tech and make the conditions for niggers to later immigrate into EU countries. If it were Rome, they would have just made settlements, protected themselves and not gave a fuck about natives, with that also not giving them tech to multiply rapidly and conquering them much more easily.
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>>4018277Any religion get obsessed with fags and give them more attention than they deserves will eventually be taken over by them.
Let them fuck each others away from the civilization and die with STDs or some shit.
There will always be fags, it's rare but natural.
There will always be fag sympathizers, it called women.
There will always be attention seekers who'll claim to be fags.
If Christians didn't force them to straighten up they wouldn't exist secretly and start to ruin the civilization from within.
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>>4018297braniggers being NS involves them ignoring the bigger part of NS works and theory
being a pacifist christian does not contradict christian teachings
>>4018298non sequitur
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>>4018304You're saying that Christians are bad because they didn't slaughter the negroes and the pajeets but you don't apply the same standards to ancient pagan societies, are you retarded?
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>>4018298Romans were klling jews before Christianity though. Ethiopians traded a lot with the Romans but they weren't really allies before Rome became Christian together with Ethiopia.
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>>4018304Can you point out these Christian teachings you are talking about? I am curious.
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>>4018299Meds, the romans were all into assimilation to the point we have the specific word "romanization", and one of the most important steps they did in lands they wanted to romanize was building cities with modern services to awe the locals and house the native elites
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>>4018303>There will always be fags, it's rare but naturalehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i wouldn't disagree with rare but its an illness rather than natural and develops later on in life not something one is born with not something you can detect early , it can happen over the span of a week or day after living an entire life , regardless its a very sick illness
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>>4018308european paganism always had an inherently racialist aspect to it, european pagans did not fear slaughtering their enemies because le god said its le bad, christians do
i dont hold the two to the same standards because they are not the same
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>>4018312Yeah, by turning the locals into romans, and giving the Roman soldiers land there, to breed local women.
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>>4018311the new testament
>>4018313you are arguing in bad faith
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>>4018332Can you point me to specific verse?
Also why not also the old testament, that is basically the central jewish text?
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>>4018264it polished morals, so techincally many of us exist because of it. Human sacrifice could be normal
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>>4018341Rome beat, killed jews and expelled them long before christcvckery started.
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>>4018197>slaughtering shitskinsGEG they didnt even have the cruetlty to cut off their balls like arabs, they just let all of them multiply because they became Christians and were suddenly good
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>>4018160it's not them just because they influenced early christianity
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>>4018314>>4018315>but its an illness rather than natural and develops later on in life not something one is born withIt's natural, something about XXY chromosomes.
They aren't the problem as they are extremely rare and infertile (obviously), the attention seekers are the problem and the sympathizers who'll sympathize with any victim or victim alike just to feel good about themselves.
>In my religionThere is a tranny "goddess" literal tranny.
Xer temple is somewhere away from the civilization, In a secluded place where they can die from STDs away from the civilization without anyone knowing they even existed.
The chinks also had some fag God btw for this reason.
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>>4018336>Genesis 1:26-27>Genesis 5:1-2>Acts 17:26>Romans 2:9-11>Romans 3:29-30>Galatians 3:26-29>Matthew 5:38-48>Luke 6:27-36>Matthew 26:52need i say more?
the old testament is just god being an angry schizo (calling for genocides against various gentiles) and is a story of jewish supremacism
the new testament turned judaism into a globalist religion promoting love and peace (neither greek nor jew award)
>>4018337 not an argument
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christianity is an anti-racialist pro-pacifist pro-enemy religion
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>>4018357I just remembered, Christcvckery also prevented us from charging intertests, holding back European economies and allowing the jews to become so important in the first place geg
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>>4018369how come it is?
your argument devolved into extremely vague hypotheticals out of this world, there is no point in arguing about it
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>>4018365Any goy give loans with shall be executed, only God's chosen people are allowed to rack up such easy wealth.
This is why Jews where asking up to 48% on loans and people would stack on their door steps, for 600 fucking years.
This is why they arrived as slaves and ended up being 10 time richer than the royal families in Europe…
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>>4018264The population was turning to christianity, if the upper class stayed pagan, the christians would rebel
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>>4018376nigga and how does that make christianity the stabilizing factor?
>niggers saved rhodesia because if the population became mostly niggers but the ruling class stayed white the niggers would rebelthis is your mindset
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im jewish
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>>4018381Ehhhh uhhhh ehhhhhh idk mane, but god goooder than phanteon
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>>4018389non sequitur
i dont believe in any gods
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>>4018371>out of this worldbro
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christsissies BTFO
>hasnt replied to half of the anti christian arguments ITT
>fails to prove how christianity is le good
>christianity remains a universalist jew worship cult
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>>4018396Are you atheist?
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>>4018404animist apparently, that is what some nusoiclucka called me
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I believe that God favors the white man more than the jews
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>>4018409everything is holy basically
i would say i am a pantheist
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>>4018411sure but if you think rabbi yeshua/yahweh are racist and pro white then you are a bad christian and if christianity was true you would go to hell
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>>4018415What does that mean nigga, what do you mean by holy
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>>4018417Christ is pro everybaldi though
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By the way I'm a robotheist and I believe AI is god
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>>4018419i am not interested in explaining my position on this because i came to this conclusion on my own and do not feel the need to make everyone believe in what i believe
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>>4018425you said it i didn't
atheists can't just sit and not think about black cocks
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>>4018428toddler ass response
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>>4018430you failed to make a single valid argument this entire time
what am i supposed to reply with?
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>>4018422You're probably a materialist but you just said you believe everything is holy because you like nature n shieett
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>>4018432how exactly did i fail?
>christianity polished morals and europe would have been more brutal without it, more innocent people would die â„–4018436[Quote]
>>4018434And to distance yourself from fuggen gaytheist materialists
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>>4018434>>4018436i dont consider atheism to be gay because all atheists are extremely different because they are not bound by one single moral system
but i am not atheist, i lean closer to cosmotheism, but i just call that pantheism
>>4018435if you think this is a valid argument then this implies you believe that christianity was the only religion able to empose a "polished" moral system upon europe
also not to mention that christian morality is utterly retarded
>dont abort retarded kids let them suffer>dont abort brown kids let them rape white women>dont kill niggers let them kill youand so on
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>>4018443>if you think this is a valid argument then this implies you believe that christianity was the only religion able to empose a "polished" moral system upon europeby this i mean that if christianity did not exist something would fill in the space which was occupied by christianity in our timeline
or maybe it wouldnt have, but if that is the case then saying christianity was necessary is retarded since history could have gone perfectly fine without it and what it brought
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>>4018443and it was that, no? Pre christian europe had systematic violence here and there, if could be replaced by some pagan jarty stuff. The christian moral standart is the most peaceful one
the stuff you wrote is violent and retarded too
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>>4018457why is violence bad?
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>>4018417Well bible never speaks on race but both christ and God had prejudices be it against
(((caananites))) or
(((sodomites))). Other than that the White man has been blessed more than anyone else demographically. Some of the most powerful countries in the world were/are white Christian nations or European nations in general. Everytime white people got subjugated they managed to beat the invaders unlike other demographics which needed the Whites to feel sorry for them to be set free, speaking of, no other demographics have been able to conquer as much as the white man did, to invent as much as the white man did, to live on lands as good as european lands. Do God and Jesus hate niggers, we don't know, but God surely tends to favor Europeans, even more than his "chosen people"
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>>4018458why is satan bad bro? Why is being evil bad
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Atheist.party
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>>4018462>Well bible never speaks on race thank you
>>4018462>but both christ and God had prejudices be it against (((caananites))) or (((sodomites)))everyone hates somebody, this means nothing
>>4018462>Other than that the White man has been blessed more than anyone else demographicallywhat do you mean?
are you trying to say that god is racist because the white man is the most advanced genetically?
this is circular logic and implies god exists, prove that first then we can come back to this
>>4018462>Some of the most powerful countries in the world were/are white Christian nations or European nations in generalbecause europeans are the most advanced evolutionally
not because of christianity or yahweh
>>4018462>Everytime white people got subjugated they managed to beat the invadersthis isnt even true and is not related to your argument at all
>>4018462>unlike other demographics which needed the Whites to feel sorrychristianity is what made whites feel sorry for browns btw
>>4018462>no other demographics have been able to conquer as much as the white man did, to invent as much as the white man did, to live on lands as good as european lands.whites are the best yeah, how does this relate to god and christianity
>>4018462>Do God and Jesus hate niggers, we don't know, but God surely tends to favor Europeans, even more than his "chosen people"white people favor white people, god is not even in the equation here
everything perfectly makes sense without him so why add him?
evolution and genetics explain our superiority perfectly
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>>4018465why is violence evil?
answer my question
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hoholxistas?
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>>4018476because it's one of the most primitive things that humans have in their brains, kill somebody, rape somebody for no reason at all just because you feel it that way. Not being violent is what being human is, peace makes us humans. It, of course, does not mean that protection is bad but we are talking about unjustified primitive violence not related to protecting, saving
now your turn, why exatly is satan bad? Why is being evil bad, your logic, or do (You) support him
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>>4018092Undeniable truth
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>>4018493>because it's one of the most primitive things that humans have in their brains, kill somebody, rape somebodywhy is this bad?
primitivity =/= evil
are animals evil because they eat each other "for no reason at all"?
>>4018493>for no reason at all just because you feel it that waystrawman btw
>>4018493>Not being violent is what being human is, peace makes us humansactually, no, being homo sapiens is what makes us human
>>4018493>It, of course, does not mean that protection is bad but we are talking about unjustified primitive violence not related to protecting, savingyou made up a strawman in your head and got mad at it
>>4018493>now your turn, why exatly is satan bad? Why is being evil bad, your logic, or do (You) support himsatan is not real and our definitions of evil are clearly different, stop trying to make this about me
are you unable to argue about ideas? why do you keep trying to make this personal?
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>>4018512you told me to explain why is violence bad, so i did. It's dumb and evil
>made up a strawman in your headis explaining prohibited?
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>>4018529>fails to respondfold
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christcucks are actually retarded kek
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>>4018536i already did though
>>4018539>le christcux mayne â„–4018543[Quote]
>>4018540>i already did thoughrespond to the following
>because it's one of the most primitive things that humans have in their brains, kill somebody, rape somebodywhy is this bad?
primitivity =/= evil
are animals evil because they eat each other "for no reason at all"?
>Not being violent is what being human is, peace makes us humansactually, no, being homo sapiens is what makes us human
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>>4018543animals are animals, they don't have human brains. It's their nature they don't have other choices, and we humans do, it's not normal to kill just because it's natural and it happens.
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>>4018550>animals are animals, they don't have human brainshumans are also animals
>>4018550>It's their nature they don't have other choicesthey do have other choices
those that take other choices end up dying and not reproducing
its called natural selection
we are going down the same path
>>4018550>it's not normal to kill just because it's natural and it happens"thing is/isnt normal" is an appeal to popularity
its "normal" to be a faggot, are you a faggot?
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you are very vague and most of what you say are just appeals to authority and appeals to morality, ending up in circular logic
>violence is evil because it is primitive
>primitivity is bad because it is evil
>primitivity is evil because… it just is, okay?!
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>>4018555>humans are also animalswhy aren't you hunting and eating raw meat? Technically we are ones but there's a difference between an animal and a human
>they do have other choices<those that take other choices end up dying and not reproducingyou just said they don't
and why are you bringing up faggotry?
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>>4018561primitivity is bad because it's too simple, it's undevelopment and relience on outdated mechanics
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This thread is still up? As expected.
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>>4018575it's a different one, he keeps making these threads for no reason
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>>4018465100% valid question btw
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>>4018566>why aren't you hunting and eating raw meat?because there are easier ways of finding food without making much compromises, although you do bring up a good point
sadly hunting is legally iffy
>>4018566>Technically we are ones but there's a difference between an animal and a humanthere are differences between animals and other animals too, this is not an argument
>>4018566>>they do have other choices><those that take other choices end up dying and not reproducing>you just said they don'twhat? read what i said again
>>4018566>and why are you bringing up faggotry?i brought it up as an example
appealing to popularity is a fallacy, your argument is invalid
>>4018572primitivity and simplicity are not the same thing
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>>4018583spanish sissy gem
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The Turks ended the roman empire, actually
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>>4018465100% valid question btw
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>>4018583gohar e kuni espaniayi
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>>4018608>valid question>red herring fallacyohnonono
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>>4018609They were the final nail in the coffin. There wasn't just one thing that did it. The Huns, Germanics, Sasanians, then Muslims, and finally the Turks
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>>4018587>there are differences between animals and other animals too, this is not an argumentthey're nothing compared to differences between animals and humans
>they do have other choices but they die when they choose them, so they only have one choicei'm talking about violence being natural but not normal in our period of time but you choose faggotry as an example because fags say stuff close to that but we have 2 different topics here
>primitivity and simplicity are not the same thingclose to eachother though
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>>4018636Christianity was never a real thing in my eyes. It's not even a real movement let alone a people. There's no real ideology or soul. The romans simply lost after losing multiple conflicts
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>>4018642>they're nothing compared to differences between animals and humansproof?
>>4018642>i'm talking about violence being natural but not normal in our period of time but you choose faggotry as an example because fags say stuff close to that but we have 2 different topics hereappeal to popularity
>>4018642>close to eachother thoughnot an argument
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>>4018646you are just being a contrarian, if you want free reppeys post some real bait
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Christ is King. Shut up feminist gay pagan larper
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>>4018650>proof?google the word "city"
the word primitive can be viewed as a synonym to simple, they're not the same though but they're like i already mentioned close to eachother
>not being violent is le appeal to popularitygeg
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>>4018652Your argument is that Christianity subverted and weakened the roman empire which is the main cause of its collapse. I think that Christianity isn't a real movement which can rally any strong opinions into tangible results, so I think it didn't actually change anything. It doesn't carry any steam. The closest Christianity got to actually motivating aciton was the crusades which were a humiliating failure. Christianity as a movement could never create something the way Islam did. You may be right that it weakened Rome, but ultimately those conflicts are what brought it down, and sticking to devil worship or whatever wouldn't have meaningfully changed anything
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>>4018670Literally who? Wotan is dead and SNCA.
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>>4018475You keep treating Christianity like some optional extra bolted onto European success, as if the faith that shaped the entire civilizational framework of the West is irrelevant. That's the circular part. The White man's breakthroughs in science, law, exploration, and statecraft didn't happen in a vacuum of pure genetics, these did help, but they happened inside Christendom. Monasteries preserved literacy and classical knowledge through the Dark Ages when pagan Europe had collapsed. Scholasticism and the universities that grew out of the Church produced the intellectual habits that later fed the scientific method. The Protestant work ethic, the idea of dominion under God, the moral confidence that the world could and should be ordered, those are Christian products, not raw IQ points floating in the ether. Evolution explains capacity, not why that capacity was directed toward cathedrals, universities, global navigation, and industrial order.
>how does europeans fighting off every invasion tie into this in the main historical pattern, the Mongols reached the edges and withdrew or were absorbed; they did not permanently subjugate the europeans and got fought off, The Ottomans were stopped at Vienna and later got pushed out of europe in the balkans, The Islamic advances into Iberia and southern Italy were reversed by the Reconquista and the Norman campaigns. When Europeans were under foreign pressure they repeatedly recovered,revolted or expelled it, unlike the non whites who couldn't do that. The thing that ties Christianity into this is that all these revolts were lead by christians and succeeded. That recovery capacity is not shared equally by every people. There is the pattern of eventual European dominance after Christianization.
>Christianity is the reason why colonialism endedChristianity did not invent European guilt over colonialism as some unique self flagellation. The modern post-1960s guilt complex is a secular, post-Christian phenomenon that accelerated as faith declined. Those same countries were Christian even before the guilt complex and they saw no wrong with colonialism, not to mention that most of this propaganda was jewish. The later leftist narrative that turns every colonial enterprise into original sin is largely a product of Enlightenment universalism gone soft, Marxist class niggerbabble, and jewish elite, not the Christian teachings. Infact god himself allowed killing and settling in land of degenerates. If Christianity were the engine of racial self-abnegation, medieval and early modern Europe would have been full of it and they wouldn't have even expanded to begin with.
>everyone hates someone this means nothingGod and Christ showing clear preferences and judgments is not "everyone hates somebody." Scripture is full of particularism: Canaanites under judgment for their practices, Sodom destroyed for its wickedness, christians being allowed to destroy caanan for being bunch of child sacraficing degenerates that were malicious to everyone (sounds familiar). The Bible does not use modern racial categories, but it does not teach radical equality of outcomes or pretend every group is interchangeable, which universalism would object. "Do not cast your pearls before swine" does acknowledge that there are people who are not worth salvation. Providence is allowed to favor some lines more than others in history. The demographic and civilizational record of Christian Europe is one long data point that the Christian does not have to ignore in order to stay orthodox. You can reject the metaphysics; you cannot pretend the historical correlation between Christian Europe and the highest sustained achievements simply vanishes once you invoke genetics alone, they are one of the reasons but it's not them only. Whiteness and high average cognitive ability are very VERY real. Christianity supplied the moral and institutional form that turned that ability into the civilization that actually conquered, invented, and ordered the modern world. Without that form you have potential; with it you have Christendom. That is not circular. It is sequential.
>prove that God existsThat's a long thing to write about give me a moment
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>>4018685nobody is reading this
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>>4018687we all are reading this
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>>4018679>google the word "city"we are just more advanced, animals are still all very different in other ways
>>4018679>the word primitive can be viewed as a synonym to simple, they're not the same though but they're like i already mentioned close to eachothernot an argument
>>not being violent is le appeal to popularityyou cant debunk this btw
>>4018681>Literally who? Wotan is dead and SNCAyour kike on a stick is also dead and becoming SNCA too kek
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take your meds op
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>>4018699why do you always glaze this guy bro
Seeing an original take from you is rarer than rare
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>>4018707I mostly browse this site on my phone or when procrastinating from work so I don't really care about saying anything of actual substance.
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>>4018691yep that's right we are far more advanced than the average animal, you got it.
>not an argument because i said sowhatever you say, i said that primitivity is simple and you started whining about simplicity
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>>4018721I wrote a wall of text, reply to that, damn it
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>>4018699wotan is owned by the mouse and isnt going back, sorry
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>>4018720wiping your ass is literally violence because you are not letting the germs feed off of your skin cells and you dont let them hide between your butt cheeks
niggers are germs
if you are morally and logically consistent and dont think that wiping your ass is evil you would not whine about wiping africa off the face of the earth
>>4018724sorry i didnt notice it, i will
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>>4018680>Your argument is that Christianity subverted and weakened the roman empire which is the main cause of its collapseits not my main argument i am just quoting hitler's table talk for its anti christian substance here, i dont leave out the romanophilia because it is important for the context
my personal opinion is that both christianity and military defeats did big damage to the roman empire but neither were the "main" problems
kicking down a strong door is harder than a rotten one, but letting a door rot down by itself will also take a long time
>>4018680>I think that Christianity isn't a real movement which can rally any strong opinions into tangible results, so I think it didn't actually change anything. It doesn't carry any steam. The closest Christianity got to actually motivating aciton was the crusades which were a humiliating failure. Christianity as a movement could never create something the way Islam did.that is your personal opinion and i am not very interested in debating this as this is not the subject of the thread
>>4018680>You may be right that it weakened Rome, but ultimately those conflicts are what brought it downsee above
>>4018680>and sticking to devil worship or whatever wouldn't have meaningfully changed anythingchristianity was an accelerant
>>4018736>>Christianity is bad an like le jooish, and it totally didn't lead to EUROPEAN COUNTRIES conquering the whole worldand what did that lead to? colonization is the root of our demographic demise
>>4018740not an argument
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>>4018753opsec level: sex with girlfriend
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>>4018761Ask a silly question, get a silly answer
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>>4018769you are clearly too stupid to understand my metaphors, maybe you should try using ai to write your arguments for you like the serbtard did
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>>4018709yeah whatever faggot
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>>4018764Not yet, that's happening in an hour.
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>>4018783thank you i really needed to know that
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>>4018784rabbi jesus is my neighbor he lets xis stupid dog shit on my yard and never cleans it
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>>4018761Fall of Christianity and loss of Christian morals lead to the influx of quadrillion niggers from africa, as well as contraception which lead to the lowering of birth rates. Some popes even said that races are different (the 1938 one said that at least), and that they should be kept away from each other mostly.
<Collapse of true Christian morals lead to problems related with demographics and white decline. It's exactly the opposite. You can even see it in the birth rates and how they plummeted from 1950s to 1970s in U.S. for example. Those twenty years were the years of sharp decline in traditional Christian morals which lead to dis happening.
<Plus, Rome was colonising niggers in syria and other states even before Christianity was a thing, which in term lead to a collapse of the civilization.
<Your arguments are ultimately flawed, but I can see where you are coming from and you're still rather intelligent.
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>>4018785You're welcome mate.
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>>4018793do understand them*
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>>4018806Ukrabro, don't insult the portubro's arguments, I know that you want the best of the outcome for the position we are defending, but it's rude, and being a ruder is le bad.
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>>4018809we talked about his "metaphors" though who cares, use this site more often we need more people like you. Everyphono here is negative
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>>4018800>Fall of Christianity and loss of Christian morals lead to the influx of quadrillion niggers from africa, as well as contraception which lead to the lowering of birth rates. Some popes even said that races are different (the 1938 one said that at least), and that they should be kept away from each other mostlyhow convenient is it that everything based and trad = christian morality and everything modern and bad = corruption of christianity but not the other way around…
>but da raycist popes! please ignore all the rest of the popes who spoke against racism and violence, only talk about da racist popes bro>>4018800>Collapse of true Christian morals lead to problems related with demographics and white decline. It's exactly the opposite.see above
>>4018800>You can even see it in the birth rates and how they plummeted from 1950s to 1970s in U.S. for example.nigga is abortion your only argument? abortion kills way more niggers FLAT, even though niggers are only like 15% of america's population
muh birth rates is such basic dogshit that even tarrant spoke how even if birth rates were to be fixed right now we would still be replaced
>>4018800>Those twenty years were the years of sharp decline in traditional Christian morals which lead to dis happening"traditional christian morals" built upon ancient european morality
all that happened was christian morality won while european morality finally died
>>4018800>Your arguments are ultimately flawed, but I can see where you are coming from and you're still rather intelligent.snca
insult me all you want this is not a site for serious discussion, being respectful is not a virtue here
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>>4018820Thank you.
Unfortunately I can't use the 'arty too much, I am being held hostage by seething things named 'Responsibilities' outside of the 'net.
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>>4018816that's what i'm talking about
no one can resist the temptation of a pearly soft ass
we need to accomodate as many sb as possible
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>>4018830if you are wondering, this is alexander slavros commentary on evolas "revolt against the modern world" which can be found in the ironmarch work called "next leap"
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Europe would be better without christcucknity