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what are the effects of christianity on literacy rates after the collapse of the roman empire? positive or negative

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>>3782633 (OP)
Considering that islam was attacking the entire Mediterranean as well as nordic northerns invasions and mongols from the east, I'm glad that the monks of europe saved as much knowledge as possible

muslim rapists and pillagers were already almsot done devouring spain and were in mainland france

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>>3782652
can you answer the question please

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>>3782666
massively positive, the christian west became a global super power and scientific innovator

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>>3782666
Do you like history, this documentary isn't so much about war as it is about a very rich Italian family.

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Positive. But the catholic church eventually holding the bible away from people, which was one of the many Protestant Reformations points, the translations, WHICH IS THE DUTY OF YHE CHURCH, to spread the gospel.

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There was literally no other book printed and spread for people to read OTHER THAN THE BIBLE FOR 2000 YEARS

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>>3782680
Hey I like you, have you ever seen these documentaries? >>3782673

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>>3782682
>I like you
What

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>>3782633 (OP)
can someone list what the church exactly did to help the literacy rates?
>>3782673
i will check this out, thank you

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>>3782730
The monks themselves specifically, and those who joined their orders, it was a pursuit of faith and knowledge, to be free of women and earthly desire. And they saw that knowledge and faith were more important than earthly pleasure.

There then came a monk, and others, who believed that there were principles of their religion that were ignored or were twisted by men who sought power and wealth more than faith.

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>>3782730
also, here's the religious person who invented the X,Y plane mathematics

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>>3782742
The rennaissance was not something that happened overnight, but was many people over many decades noticing and examining things in an abstract way and trying to find a way in mathematics and philosophy to explain it

i believe that many renaissance people did not like slavery, but it was something that a few rich and powerful, monarchists and bankers supported for the sake of wealth

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>>3782730
i think that you can understand that there are people who look to "idols" or imagery for divine inspiration, not to do ill to other images themselves by misrepresenting them…

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>>3782633 (OP)
Depends on if the loss of literacy amongst the nobility was for religious or cultural reasons personally i would say it didn't have much of an effect either way

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Hard to say. Literacy specifically was probably somewhat boosted by the Bible being so present, but shit like the Inquisitions more than likely held back progress in all sorts of ways.

Christianity was probably a good thing, the insane power and corruption of the Church itself probably wasn't.

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>>3782783
i watched the video on inquisitions only being about targeting false converts or criminals, not killing millions of people

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>>3782788
I'm not one of the people who think they killed millions, but the system was definitely abused, considering they went after Galileo and all that.

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>>3782798
while i agree with you, that christians should believe in space, planets, physics, and common sense itself, you have to understand the duality of man's nature in this.

on one hand you have the ones accusing those who figured things out, little kids make mistakes sometimes

one the other appreciate men for speaking honestly and enduring

if you can comprehend the duality of motives, you can ascertain more of human nature, but that is called wisdom, and few who condemn comprehend it.

anime, fiction, is just someone's interpretation of human activities under their level of realism.

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>>3782802
Yeah, the point was just that it's hard to judge the true impact of the church on society's progress during that period.

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>>3782803
think of everything they faced at that time

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>>3782804
I am aware. Hence why I say "it's hard to judge". There are solid arguments both for and against the church on the matter, it's a complicated topic.

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>>3782803
it provided structure n shieet
its rather arrogant to claim Christianity was directly helpful to science doe, just as it is arrogant to say the opposite

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>>3782803
As a Christian I believe in final judgement to settle all scores, not wanting anyone to go to hell itself forever. That place is a second death.

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>>3782806
This is mostly what I'm saying. It had a mix of positive and negative impacts, but we have no way of knowing how things would have gone without the church.

>>3782807
I'm mostly talking about the Church as an institution here, rather than Christianity itself. The Church at its peak was arguably just as corrupt as any government of similar size, if not even moreso considering they also held significant influence over the governments themselves.

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>>3782810
Do people seek power even though they are obviously not ready for power? Adam's first sin.

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>>3782813
Jesus demonstrated how to defeat Adam's sin.

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>>3782810
fear no evil, you have the opportunity to do many good things and to set people right

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>>3782810
Do you believe yet?

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>>3782821
He's Greek Orthodox o algo, you're literally preaching to the choir

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>>3782824
With the Holy Spirit, I can see and read and feel where the truth is.

Christ is the way… But yet, I know more than most.

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>>3782829
what are your life's struggles and achievements?

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>>3782829
you better answer quick boy it's not looking good for your hot takes

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>>3782741
thank you for the resources, i will look through them after my shift



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