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Why do muzzie threads always get so many reppies
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>>3758825No he isn't he's still active on the booru.
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>>3758840his last post was a smiley face
>>3758800 he cant say no when hes asked if children can consent before 18.
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>>3758844I was talking about warrior-Z, not_doctoos is agnostic hes probably just baiting.
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>>3758843American Dad gooder than king of the hill
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>>3758852WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY??
ARE YOU COMPARING MODERN DAY SHORT FORM CONTENT SLOP TO AN ALL TIME CLASSIC???
gtfo back to the tok you go faggot
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>>3758850he said 2+2=4 isnt real and i asked him if the age of consent is real but by his first answer i can only infer he doesnt actually believe that
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>>3758861Yea its clearly bait, he's there to make a bad image of everyone geg. Just ignore his irony.
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>>3758864i was waiting for him to define consent and then ask him if he denounces mohamed since his actions obviously define him as a pedophile due to the prerequisite questions about consent
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>>3758867The modern stance about Aisha's marriage and even Warrior-Z is that her age was like in early adulthood, like 18-19. That argument has some merit to it, especially when analyzing hadiths and what not. Not_doctoos is some random nigger baiter, he isn't actually muslim I think hes east orthodox or something.
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>>3758871Then the religion has no scaffolds if the Hadiths are worthless
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>>3758871No he's a atheist who hates everyone
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>>3758878What if hes Vaush undercover?
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>>3758880Hold on you may be on to something
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>>3758890Baiting instead of engaging is tranny shit
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>>3758888I agree that islam scholars ARE really retarded
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>>3758893I was engaging with this thread and it didnt change anyone's opinions,if anything not giving a fuck was a much more giga move
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>>3758894lmao 99% of the ones we know todays are madkhalicux. Our religion is shattered rn.
>>3758897I'm just gonna do my part and leave.
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>>3758888>i believe in this book because the previous book has been changed over time>we cant define Aishas age of consent, it has changed over the last 10 yearsrip to the retards that actually believe this
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>>3758888>modern muslim scholars are retardedwho knew!
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>>3758900>i believe in this book because the previous book has been changed over timeWho said that though.
>we cant define Aishas age of consent, it has changed over the last 10 yearsWe can doe, the video I sent is still being anporvoled, but we can probably tell. Based on what the Quran says, and based on peripheral information on the hadith itself.
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>>3758900Ibn Abbas (ra) in Bukhari 3851:
>Allah's Messenger salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam was inspired Divinely at the age of forty. Then he stayed in Mecca for thirteen years, and then was ordered to migrate, and he migrated to Medina and stayed there for ten years and then died.
>Ibn Abi Abdur-Rahman in Bukhari 3547:
>Divine Inspiration was revealed to him when he was forty years old. He stayed ten years in Mecca receiving the Divine Inspiration, and stayed in Medina for ten more years.this shit has so many paradoxes nigga what is this
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>>3758905ill park my car, lock my house and then ill watch it
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>>3758906Its just a 3 year different atp. If both are considered sahih its probably because its considered an accurate estimation of said chronology.
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>>3758888nigger is that a peter griffin AI video? thats what i waited for?
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>>3758949The context isn't AI. People post AI videos to deboonk shit here all the time, because of some guy called ex-muslim peter.
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>>3758955argument 1: the definitions are too vague, regardless, mohamed was given different rules to follow compared to the rest of humanity for instance he had 11 wives, a sin if commited by anyone else. He could have ignored those rules all together as he did to others.
Argument 2: Supposedly debunked
https://icraa.org/aisha-age-review-traditional-revisionist-perspectives/ again, regardless, this puts an immense question mark over islam as a whole. This takes away from islams credibility greatly. Argue a little further and you get to the modern "Islam is a warlord script of war" hypothesis.
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>>3758996>argument 1: the definitions are too vague, regardless, mohamed was given different rules to follow compared to the rest of humanity for instance he had 11 wives, a sin if commited by anyone else. He could have ignored those rules all together as he did to others. No proof of this, the prophet muhammad is said to be a guide for people. If this was true it would otherwise be obsolete to apply that. He had 11 wives over the course of his life, not all at the same time.
>Argument 2: Supposedly debunked
https://icraa.org/aisha-age-review-traditional-revisionist-perspectives/ again, regardless, this puts an immense question mark over islam as a whole. This takes away from islams credibility greatly. Argue a little further and you get to the modern "Islam is a warlord script of war" hypothesis.
Narritive doesn't stand up considering the Qurans laws about wars and what not. ICRAA counter-arguments fails to address anything related to Joshuas thesis because it focuses on arguments relating to Asma's age without actually addressing the main part of the argument about the weakness in links of narriation.
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Though the catholic church allowed to marry 9 year olds at that time.
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>>3759016>No proof of this, the prophet muhammad is said to be a guide for people. If this was true it would otherwise be obsolete to apply that. He had 11 wives over the course of his life, not all at the same time.He had 9 concurrent wives between 7 A.H. and 11 A.H. (628 AD to 632 AD)
>Narritive doesn't stand up considering the Qurans laws about wars and what not. ICRAA counter-arguments fails to address anything related to Joshuas thesis because it focuses on arguments relating to Asma's age without actually addressing the main part of the argument about the weakness in links of narriation.
>And kill them wherever you overtake themIncredible, in any case, its not a primary source. Its just a theory as to the battles of that current time. And again, it strikes a difficult question. How much more of Islam is false? How much of it is derived from Mohameds conquests and what was convenient for his wars.
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>>3759068Okay why did you say 11? That's just confusing and wrong.
There's a fundamental different between divine decrees and breaking rules. The Prophet Muhammad did not break rules, he was just given a special decree by God to be able to marry 9 concurrent wives. I don't think thats grounds for claiming quranic laws do not apply to him just because of special status.
>Incredible, in any case, its not a primary source. Its just a theory as to the battles of that current time. And again, it strikes a difficult question. How much more of Islam is false? How much of it is derived from Mohameds conquests and what was convenient for his wars.Read the verse below it bruh. I don't know what you mean by "wrong", if you mean inconsistent or morally wrong.
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>>3759085>hes not breaking the rules, he just has permission from the boss to break the rulesthen he is not someone to guide the people, it also comes off as something he would make up for himself
>Read the verse below it bruh. I don't know what you mean by "wrong", if you mean inconsistent or morally wrong.How does it make anything better? Come on nigga, you cant tell me to slaughter them and then immediately say youre the most merciful. Thats too on the nose. Its worded so loosely it spawned several terrorist groups all across the world.
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>>3759101>then he is not someone to guide the people, it also comes off as something he would make up for himselfIts not "rule for thee but not for me". The Quran itself decrees the prophet can have multiple wives. Your argument is weird because in every religion every prophet has special commandments that aren't relevant to other people and decrees by their holy books
>How does it make anything better? Come on nigga, you cant tell me to slaughter them and then immediately say youre the most merciful. Thats too on the nose. Its worded so loosely it spawned several terrorist groups all across the world.Because you haven't read the rest of the verse itself. The verse says not to kill or slaughter them, unless they fight you, pretty simple "eye for an eye" thing. There's the commandment of fighting them only if they wage war on you.
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>>3759109Jesus never desired 9 wives at the same time. He lived as is right to live. No exceptions for the flesh and its desires.
>Because you haven't read the rest of the verse itself. The verse says not to kill or slaughter them, unless they fight you, pretty simple "eye for an eye" thing. There's the commandment of fighting them only if they wage war on you.The verse is too vague. If one singular person picks a fight against your people can you slaughter his entire clan? The Quran says so, slaughter them whenever you come upon them. This just seems like a really easy way to instigate war by pestering the other side until a small scuffle can erupt into a war. Backed up by the persecution line which is clearly hinting at this and is also very vague.
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>>3759122>Jesus never desired 9 wives at the same time. He lived as is right to live. No exceptions for the flesh and its desires.Number 31 bruh. Jesus is a special case again, because God destined him to complete a message.
>>Because you haven't read the rest of the verse itself. The verse says not to kill or slaughter them, unless they fight you, pretty simple "eye for an eye" thing. There's the commandment of fighting them only if they wage war on you.Yes but that would be gay, and the verse clearly clarifies having mercy on people.
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>>3759129>Number 31 bruh. Jesus is a special case again, because God destined him to complete a message.doesnt dispute my point
>slaughter them when you come upon themCome on nigga, how is that mercy. This is a total contradiction.
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>>3759143>doesnt dispute my pointIt does, prophet have always been given special decrees and commandments as with the prophet muhammad.
>Come on nigga, how is that mercy. This is a total contradiction.My nigga, It says "Fight in the cause of Allah 'only' against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.1 Allah does not like transgressors."
"Kill them wherever you come upon them1 and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution2 is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them-that is the reward of the disbelievers."
They come after each other, wheres the contradiction?
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I was raped yesterday
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>>3759147>It does, prophet have always been given special decrees and commandments as with the prophet muhammad.Slow down, Moses was never given the ability to operate outside the 10 commandments. He never gave himself a decree to go against the word of god like that. This is something ridiculous.
>They come after each other, wheres the contradiction?Thats the point.
You can not deliberately define warfare as total killing with "kill them wherever you come upon them" and "do not exceed the limits" when no limits are explicitly defined. You cant say "allah doesnt like transgressers" and then follow that up with "kill them wherever you come upon them" its simply obscene.
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>>3759176He received far more than the 10 commandments doe. he instructs moses in numbers 31 to initiate an attack on the non-believers no?
>You can not deliberately define warfare as total killing with "kill them wherever you come upon them" and "do not exceed the limits" when no limits are explicitly defined. You cant say "allah doesnt like transgressers" and then follow that up with "kill them wherever you come upon them" its simply obscene.Because its not narrowed down to just 1 verse, as with the bible. That's why the different schools of thought exist. But the verse being vague isn't much of a problem when you read the rest of the Quran.
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>>3759182>"Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed.">"You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death"And? Again, he never made up laws against god.
>Because its not narrowed down to just 1 verse, as with the bible. That's why the different schools of thought exist. But the verse being vague isn't much of a problem when you read the rest of the Quran.
>kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambushIts vague nature is a problem and its not cleared up by the rest of the Quran. We didnt get ISIS from nothing.
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>>3759189>And? Again, he never made up laws against god.Neither did the prophet doe
>Its vague nature is a problem and its not cleared up by the rest of the Quran. We didnt get ISIS from nothing.We didn't, got ISIS from the CIA just like we got el 'waffen and other terroristcux. el 'waffen was there to destroy the altright as a soyop just as ISIS.
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>>3759193Well who are we to say he didnt. Especially given the circumstances surrounding his 9 continuous wives. Its certainly more logical and serves as a reason not to trust him and a reason as to why he is not a good guide for humanity since he goes against gods laws by using decrees.
>We didn't, got ISIS from the CIA just like we got el 'waffen and other terroristcux. el 'waffen was there to destroy the altright as a soyop just as ISIS.
>But da CIA put de crack in blaq neighbourhoods and shiettttThey funded them, but their beliefs were already theirs from the Quran. It still serves as an ample example of how being vague and violent spawns terror.