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No because they are all med(unless it's northern italian or germanic/celtic french)
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>>3218208i just remembered the french guy was parisian, are those celtic?
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>>3218423It's hard to answer that, paris is the capital city so people from all parts of france will come to live there
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euromutt
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you are white until its non euro dna
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>>3218423A quarter of Paris is Celtic
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>'criollo' descent
mapucheniggers… I…
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>>3218431People still leak over what is considered evropean albeit
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>>3218435what do you mean by mapuche niggers, the meaning of criollo is literally son of spanish people
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The white identity is an American trope
Real whites hate each other, and have hated each other for thousands of years
>but muh hitler
Hitler was going to to gleach british woman, and enslave british men
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>>3218446Criollos aren't white.
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>>3218447Snopes on that last part?
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>>3218453Because Spaniards aren't white or because the location of birth actually matters?
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>>3218453>Yes, historically, criollos were defined as people of full Spanish descent born in the Americas during the colonial era, making them white within the Spanish casta systemyou sound like those brannigers that say that spanish and south italians arent white
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No cuz theyre all white (French and italian is debatable)
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>>3218461they are white, at most they have like 10% indigenous
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>>3218461Neither I just wanted to bait OP. Thoughever, the longer your family has been outside of Europe, the higher the chance of some non-european admixture being present is.
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>>3218464I've never heard of those
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all of europe is white
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>>3218454The nazis wanted to germanify anybody who wasn't germanic
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>>3218473ill explain you the casta system:
spaniards
criollos (spaniards born in the americas)
castizo (25% indigenous)
mestizo (50% indigenous)
mulatto (50% nigger)
nigger
keep in mind that you could ascen the ranks for example castizo+white=criollo even if they have like 10% indigenous
or mestizo+white=castizo
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>>3218489I wonder why this didn't stick around like the indian caste system
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>>3218494its a mystery for me too, the casta system was disbanded after the independence of the colonies
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>>3218202 (OP)Overall paris is quite subnordid but it's the capital and thus a bit heterogenous having elements from all over france, as a rule of thumb the french cities tended to be blonder and markedly more doliocephalic (almost 2 indices lower!). Overall the peasantry and the central regions were more alpinoid.
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>>3218494Less of a stigma around miscegenation than in Anglo colonies. Catholic's fault.
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The modern "white" identity is new
Europe was never unified as white previously, and whites hated each other up until post world war 2
It is still present today, the white identity was made by the Spanish to classify Europeans
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>>3218484By miscegenating with them? Doubtful.
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>>3218506It would've delayed process just like the Indian one, those caste systems don't work in the modern day.
>theres a reason why authoritarian and racist governments are seen as "third world" â„–3218525[Quote]
>>3218513The Nazi German racial ideology is too inconsistent to really know.
They considered Germans as the master aryan race, which means that anybody else was below them.
This is why I believe Hitler is a bad representation for the far right.
He also killed millions of whites, and accomplished nothing.
Most far right people also believe the Holocaust didn't happen, which further develops the "Anti-white" hitler narrative.
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>>3218514The caste system never actually prevented miscegenation.
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>>3218534It didn't.
No caste system will ever prevent miscegenation
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>>3218525they never called themselves the master race
they even refered to aryan culture as nordic culture when considering naming their museums
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>>3218534i know, i explained it at the end of the post, the spanish saw their blood as puryfing and that they had to exparce it everywere, birthing mutts
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>>3218541nice wiki article on the one who shall not be named and the most evil political group in the world
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>>3218534It actually promoted it by allowing the concept to be addressed. Had miscegenation remained a taboo topic, then some South American nations would've probably had anti-interracial marriage laws up until the early 20th century, and perhaps even segregation in countries like Uruguay.
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>>3218525>They considered Germans as the master aryan raceNo they didn't, it's a mistranslation of the word "herrenvolk" which literally translates to "lords people" deriving from Nietzcheanism.
>He also killed millions of whites, and accomplished nothing.I disagree, he was forced into the war and offered to immediately remove all his soldiers from all occupied areas in return for peace. He originally sought to form an anti soviet union with eastern europe even being willing to go as far as to help poland invade lithuania in return for Danzig.
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>>3218540The spanish were the most retarded colonizers to ever set foot on American soil. The Portuguese are a close second since they turned the biggest nation in South America into niggerhell.
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>>3218541Furthermore the reason they used herrenvolk in conjunction with germanic people's was because most of europe from britain to russia to greece had aristocracies that were of germanic origins. Would recommend reading Houston Chamberlain for a bit more context, he was a gigantic influence on NS racial ideology.
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>>3218549Nordic people were included in the Aryan race, but the ideology is too pseudoscientific to really define an aryan race, and it doesn't make sense in retrospect
>he was forced into warYou can be forced into war, but what you do in that war is up to you.
Putting a bunch of Slavs which most people consider white is entirely upto the beholder.
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>>3218557some of hitler's ideas where good, but considering the slavs and mediterranians as non whites was retarded, especially when you see cities like prague or napoli
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>>3218557>nordic people were included in the Aryan race, but the ideology is too pseudoscientific to really define an aryan race, and it doesn't make sense in retrospect"Aryan" as used as a legal term essentially just meant white including nordids, alpinids, osteuropids, mediterranids, dinarids and "faelids". Furthermore NS authors openly criticized the term "aryan", rassenpapist Gunther openly criticized it while Grant said it was absurd to speak of indians as aryans. Have you actually read any ns works or are you just interpolating based on what you've heard.
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>>3218566Both slavs and mediterraneans were considered white though some authors like Reche argued that osteuropids were a "nordisch-innerasiatisch" mismash. Top raciologists such as Egon von Eickstedt ridiculed such theories arguing that they were predominantly and overwhelmingly europid except for eastern "contact types. Mediterranids were readily praised for their artisitc capacity and many authors noted a mediterranoid component in south western germany.
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>>3218578he still treated them as inferiors, not much to the mediterraneans, but he genocided slavs
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>>3218567The main problems with hitlers idea is
>honorary aryansthis really just marks it as a label rather than an actual scientific fact
>many white people were not includedMe personally, I believe this ideology is not a good representation of the white race, it's not backed with any evidence
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>>3218582There was no genocidal policy in place for slavs, the "generalplan ost" itself was never found but was rather "reconstructed" after the war with confessions extracted through torture. The original documents shows that they wanted to settle farmes around the sparsely populated slavic areas and integrate those of "good blood". They also regarded dinarid slavs highly and praised their overrepresentation (especially norids) among austrian generals.
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>>3218605even doe there was, hitler let people like dirlewanger do wathever they want
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>>3218582Since your Argentinian I'll bring up this fact
>Argentinan people are aryanMost people from Argentina are mixed, even castizos. Which would make them non aryan
>Also heres a point I'd like to bring upFranco, a great ally of the Germans did believe in "Hispanidad". And a stronger relation with Latin America.
If Hitler did end up with a world war 2 victory, latin america would likely be ignored by the Germans and Italians. And rather be influenced by Spain
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>>3218612What someone says does not matter.
The SS prioritized slavic targets more than Black targets.
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>>3218610i never said i was aryan, i said i was white, at most i have 10% indigenous, but probably its around 5%
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>>3218617Based and groyperpilled
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>>3218608There was not a specific policy for extermination, in a private letter Himmler decried the destruction of a people as "bolshevist" and something they couldn't do. Furhtermore Direlwanger was detested to the degree that an arrest warrant was put out for him, he was seen as a means towards an end as it would result in:
>The putting down of the warsaw uprising>Killing as many german criminals as possible â„–3218625[Quote]
The main problem with deeming all "Europeans" as Aryan is
>there are majority European people who are light brown
There are also non-european whites
Nick fuentes is an example
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>>3218617>10% indigenousMy condolences argentinaryan
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>>3218627you can't deem every European as white
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>>3218626i said its probably 5% doe 10% is in the worst case scenario, again, im not aryan, but i am white
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>>3218549How aws he forced into it?
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Spain was the one who created the white label to unify all Europeans in colonial states
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>>3218633What about the majority European, born in Europe light browns?
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>>3218631To use the Stoddardist term, "almost white".
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>>3218640Whiteness is in the eyes of the beholder
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>>3218637are afrikaners not white to you?
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>>3218642>>3218641These are contrary points of view
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>>3218643unfortunately they intermingled with aboriginal africans and indians, so not fully.
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>>3218643Some people can define them as white, they're the whitest in africa doe
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>>3218656why do these images keep posting themselves
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>>3218660dont i need a dna test for that
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>>3218662He can model your genetics based on what you know nigga just let him do it
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One of my old friends grandfather was a light brown man from latin america (white under the sun) in rhodesia
He was considered there, so it is really to the eye of the beholder
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>>3218655>Actually race is just in the eyes of the beholderErm, where did I say this?
>>3218656Less than 10% of white americans have detectable african or amerindian ancestry even with high coverage testing.
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>>3218666I didn't say you said that, someone else said that
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>>3218660Using DNA as a base for whiteness really disproves your point here
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>>3218662Not really, if you your rough ancestry percentages, I can calculate your coords and run the models for you, for instance:
>25% spain_galicia>25% lombardy/northenr italyEtc
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**northern
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>>3218665He didn't really look Amerindian doe, he didn't have the ugly facial features
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>>3218668I am falling asleep, misread it as "these views contradict each other".
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>>3218670>Using DNA as a base for whiteness really disproves your point hereElaborate
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>>3218664ok
my dad is fully white since both of my grandparents from his side are 2nd generation europeans, my grandpa is fully spanish, while my grandma have confirmed italian and some french blood, probably some spanish too, my great grandparents from my grandma side are both white criollos, probably southern spain since both my grandma and my mom are in the fitzpatric scale 3, the other 2 great grandparents i only have 1 picture since i never got to know him, they look white in there, tough i dont know if they are european migrants or white criollos
thats all i know
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>>3218680Most people would look at nick fuentes and say he's white. But if he really is more distant than the leader of ISIS that would mean he isn't.
You say he isn't white because of DNA, but most consider him white
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>>3218684Would you mind giving rough estimates in percentages?
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>>3218689i only know the basics, my grandma is 50% italian, thats the only percentage i know, the rest i estimated it via pictures
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>>3218688i asked a friend that doesnt know nick fuentes if he tought he was white, and he only said a little bit
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>>3218689You didnt ask me but
my dad is a mestizo , my mom is german.
My dad was around 85% spanish, and my mom is fully german
I took a dna test and combined I'm 90% white
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>>3218693Hmm, I see, I want to remind doe that it doesn't have to be exact, you could give rough estimates from what you know. Also I assume it is north italian?
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>>3218691They see the white skin color, thats all they see
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>>3218693actually my grandma can be either 50%italian 50% french (i dont know where her french grandpa comes from) 90%italian 10%french or 50%italian 30%spanish 10%french
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>>3218698My dads not mexican doe
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>>3218695you're white (at least to me)
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>>3218708The rest of my dna is jewish and slavic, which are not white
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>>3218710slavs are white doe, jew i accept if it is 5% or less
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why are liberalxs so obsessed with native culture, they want to claim it as the true american culture
even doe a unified american culture is dead
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>>3218720>yourI did an ESL despite being an amerimutt. Fuck.
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>>3218714i wont be perfect ill try, i cant post pictures if you want to do it yourelf (of my ancestors, not me)
25%italian 70% spanish (half of it galician, the rest southern)
5% indigenous
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>>3218733Any black ancestry perchangebeit?
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>>3218737i dont think so, all of my great grandparents dont seem to have black ancestry (at least to my eyes)
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>>3218733Add him on IRC doebeit and private dm him.
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>>3218747i dont know how to use irc
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>>3218714swede i remember i had asked you once if you could run the models on my ancestry but u didnt do shit how do i do it myself i forgot
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>>3218733>>3218742I'll simulate your coords and run the models and get back to you, just ping me here, it's 3 am here so a bit too late for me to do it at the moment, sorry.
>>3218752If you want to do it you can click the "irc" in the top right of your screen and then you can DM anyone who is online.
>>3218765I saw amerifren did it for you so I didn't end up calculating them myself, do you have the coords he made saved?
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>>3218768i didnt see them i must have closed tabs after he did
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>>3218768its kinda late here too, ill bum it until i get to bed, if the thread dies, ill make a new one tomorrow
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>>3218771I can calculate yours too tomorrow, what were your ancestry proportions?
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>>3218774Sounds good, don't hesitate to remind me if you see me in a thread.
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youre a nigger
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>>3218793no im not, what is your ancestry anyways