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Trump has made a statement, mirroring the 39 Articles of the Church of England, stating
"The Bishop of Rome hath no jurisdiction in this Nation of America"
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>>3203626 (OP)The pope is a nigger
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i wouldnt even be mad if this was real. i read a book recently that details all the points of catholicism being just as disgusting as islam. since i picked up that book that i knew would affirm my previous biases ive been armed with knowledge of my exact perception of god and thats the only one I'll ever let win!
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>>3203626 (OP)I voted for this
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Based
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I'm going to be real with you: Catholicism is a discount brand of Christianity for people who don't want to follow Christianity because that separates them from popular culture, which is mainly agnostic and atheist these days.
If it makes you feel any better, most people are terrible at following their religion anyway, and lie to themselves about it on a daily basis.
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>>3203897hey you read that book too!? small world
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how it feels spreading lies on the internet
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>>3203897organised religion is le heckin bad beacuse…. IT JUST IS… OK??
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>>3204134Organised religion is le good because God ordained it and Jesus Christ is the High Priest of Christianity and mediator between God and man.
Protestantism vvon
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>>3204266American protestants love jews more than people from other branches of protestantism
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>>3204281And they are right on all the politicial issues
Mass deportations matter more than muh jooz
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>>3204266Jesus Christ cant be the mediator between God and man if he is already God, the vicar of Christ does this function
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>>32043251st Timothy 2
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
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>>3204334what i meant was that there needs to be unity in the Church so that apostolic tradition is preserved
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>>3204380the "tradition" taught in those churches is false since it goes against apostolic tradition and the protestant churches lack the keys of Peter for them to be the true Church
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>>3204429I forget, you know more than the Church Fathers.
<St. Augustine (Sermon 295):
"For it was not said to him, 'You are the rock' (petra), but 'You are Peter' (Petrus). But the rock was Christ, in confessing whom Simon as you also know was called Peter."
St. John Chrysostom (Homily 54 on Matthew):
"'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church'; that is, on the faith of his confession."
St. Cyprian of Carthage (Treatise on the Unity of the Church):
"The other Apostles were also the same as was Peter, endowed with a like partnership both of honour and power."
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>>3204442St. Jerome (Preface to the Books of Solomon)
"Therefore, as the Church indeed reads Judith, Tobit, and the books of Maccabees, but does not receive them among the canonical Scriptures, so let it also read these two volumes for the edification of the people, not to establish the authority of ecclesiastical dogmas."
St. Basil the Great (Epistle 260.9)
"The Lord was bound to taste of death for every man… [The sword] means the word of temptation… standing by the Cross, and observing every thing that was being done… after the testimony of Gabriel… a certain oscillation [doubt] was produced in her soul."
St. John Chrysostom (Homily 44 on Matthew)
"For that which she had taken in hand was out of excessive ambition; for she wished to show the people that she had power and authority over her Son… for she was not yet having the right opinion of Him."
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>>3204442>"For it was not said to him, 'You are the rock' (petra), but 'You are Peter' (Petrus). But the rock was Christ, in confessing whom Simon as you also know was called Peter.St. Augustine says this as in Peter is representing the unity of the church (the catholic one)
"Therefore, as the Church indeed reads Judith, Tobit, and the books of Maccabees, but does not receive them among the canonical Scriptures, so let it also read these two volumes for the edification of the people, not to establish the authority of ecclesiastical dogmas."
St. Jerome is saying that those ot books shouldnt be considered as dogmatical, not that there shouldnt be any ecclesiatical dogma
<reddit spacerino"by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church, because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition" st. Iraneus
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>>3204491At most, evagenicals are 12% of migrants.
This doesn't change the fact that White Evangecials are the most Right Wing on the issues.
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>>3204515Yes. The Church Fathers were not in agreement with Rome all the time.
Rome affirms Tobit as dogmatic.
<"[The Council] has thought it meet that a list of the sacred books be inserted in this decree, lest a doubt may arise in any one's mind, which are the books that are received by this Council. They are set down here below:
Of the Old Testament: the five books of Moses… Joshua, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first book of Esdras, and the second which is entitled Nehemias; Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidical Psalter…"
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>>3204515Council of Trent
<"But if any one shall not receive, as sacred and canonical, these same books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately contemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema."
Where does this leave Saint Jerome?
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The Didache
"Appoint for yourselves, therefore, bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord… for they also render to you the ministry of prophets and teachers." (Didache 15:1)
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1 Clement (32:4):
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified through ourselves, nor through our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but through faith, whereby the Almighty God has justified all men from the beginning."
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Council of Trent (Canon 24 on Justification):
"If anyone says that the justice received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works… let him be anathema."
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>>320452221% of Hispanics in the US are Protestant actually. Protestantism is growing a lot in Latin America except in Mexico.
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>>3204565I said Evangecial migrants.
Yes, its growing and I am glad. When I say that White Evangecials are the most Right Wing, I'm obviously not referring to Mexicans.
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I remember in elementary school for some reason like 60% of my classmates were evangelical even though we were in a small rural town in the middle of nowhere. We had Cathecism but most students didn't attend.
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>>3204541the church fathers may err which is why we had ecumenical councils to determine the true dogma of the Church
<reddit space>"Appoint for yourselves, therefore, bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord… for they also render to you the ministry of prophets and teachers." (Didache 15:1)this just means that there should be church hiearchy for the Church to properly function
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>>3204578It makes no mention of there between a difference between bishop and priest, while Catholicism has 3 positions.
<So the Apostolic Tradition that Rome allegedly upholds is tradition in error?