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I fully agree.
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I am neutral
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>>3183363Then why do so many people follow it?
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ideology is dead or something
nazi maoism won
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>>3183371>[VPN]can you curse vishnu by name rq?
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>>3183366Almost nobody truly follows national socialism. Perhaps the only exception is nationalist Israelis. The only people who advocate for full communism are either anti-civilization or losers with no real societal importance anyway. Fascism is quite general, but if you take it to mean aggressive nationalism with a preference for traditional asthetics, I feel there are many nations that match that description.
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>>3183374Refer to Thomas Aquinas on cursing
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>>3183375Fascism isn't "quite general" it refers to a specific movement in the 1930s with a strong set of economic and national preferences. No country on Earth follows it in the strict sense, atleast not in any importance.
Most civilized white nations are social democracies.
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>>3183376all I'm asking you to do is curse Vishnu. Nophono knows who dat is
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>>3183359 (OP)The US isn't a social democracy.
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>>3183387And how exactly is fascism going to fix this? Fascism relied on using minorities for cheap labor a ton, which is what is happening in the west
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>>3183378If you take a very specific interpretation of fascism, then you're probably right. What specific economic and national preferences do you believe are crucial to a fascist nation?
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All civilized white nations are liberal. Some may be conservative in name, but overall they're just liberal conervatives in comparison to actual conservatives worldwide
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social democracies are just radleft liberals with communistic tendencies
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>Fascism relied on using minorities for cheap labor a tonTo help the people, yes. not to let them roam free and rape people
>>3183396>What specific economic Thing is with Fascism, there is no set-and-stone Fascist economic plan like there is with Communism
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>>3183396Collaboration between classes as a strict third positonist stance against socialism and capitalism is the defining factor of fascism.
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>>3183403Well I wasn't asking you. I specifically replied to the guy who claimed to have a specific definition that included policies and preferences.
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>>3183402Social democracy as a Marxist-adjacent movement (Lassalle) hasn't existed for more than a century.
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>>3183403Fascism killed 40 million, mainly white people in Europe. The only ones who benefitted were neutral nations that stuck to their liberal welfare systems and didnt join the war (Sweden, Switzerland)
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>>3183406>What is facism<Well it's when the people work together<And it's not Capitalism<And it's not Socialism or Communism>So what is it then?…
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>>3183382A billion Indians, anybody who's seen an esoteric nazi edit plus all of CERN knows about the demon formerly known as Vishnu
Oppenheimer was kino
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>>3183420If I ask someone about the answer to a math problem (Who claims to know the solution) and you chime in telling me "Hi, I don't know the answer", how is that at all useful. Learn to shut your mouth.
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>>3183416I meant class collaboration as it existed as a response to socialism and periods of national crises, not just people working together
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>>3183415What's your take on Sweden's early 20th century racial-/eugenicism?
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I know the Knowledge Problem of socialism and the overall ECP. What are criticisms of corporatist economic systems?
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>>3183443It's moreso how markets and owners are managed rather than the distribution itself, the state is a middle man ensuring the working class and bourgeoisie work together
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>>3183429>telling me "Hi, I don't know the answer", thats the thing, there is no concrete answer.
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>>3183447Sorry, didn't mean to sage.
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Just let people cling to their ideals. It's hard to find any source of momentary relief anymore.
>>3183389It is though.
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>>3183447Isn't the set in stone model Corporatism or some variant of it?
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>>3183451If you read my original post, you'd know that I specifically said "Fascism is quite general…" Implying I didn't have a specific definition myself. You're essentially tapping me on the shoulder and saying "I don't know the answer either" as I've already said. If this is bait then congratulations. You can't even tell anymore since shartyusers are so retarded.
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>>3183465I haven't the faintest clue what you're referring to.
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>>3183459I want people to live and improve their own lives instead of clinging onto extremism. Once I realized how bullshit this all was a lot of my worries melted away
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we should just have a conference where we get 10 of the worlds leading intellectuals of each ideological persuasion and have them debate for like a month straight so that we dont have to
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>>3183509This was already decided with World War 2 and the Cold War, liberal democracy won
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>>3183521not exactly a debate
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wars only decide which systems can most efficiently allocate resources to a centralized cause so usually in short term socialism would win even if it's worse overall
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>>3183525Wars will be the way that system comes to power anyway, even if it is hypothetically more efficent it will be unable to get into power without a large scale war that will destroy the capabilities for it to function
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>>3183532Eg. Even if the Nazis won their economy would've collapsed due to them being horribly in debt
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>>3183537You have to make the most of it. Even concentration camp and gulag prisoners found ways to do so.
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>>3183546Where can I get this shirt?
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>>3183537Until we've exhausted every political experiment there is to exhaust, we will never know what the end of history will constitute or when it will arrive
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>>3183534Marge, if they had won the war surely they wouldn't have had to pay back the debt? Essentially they would've been given everything for free. I imagine that after having conquered such a vast territory they would have had the resources necessary to extend themselves loans within their own economy.
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>>3183573As far as I know, Hitler planned to loot Europe and pay it back that way
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Iraq is a good user case on a democratic republic outside of full sodomite control
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>>3183593Well they had already looted the conquered territories anyway. I suppose the question is whether they would have bothered to pay anything back post-war. If you truly desire to create a self sufficient empire, I'm not sure you'd care about your credit reputation among powers you consider to be ZOGs.
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I'm curious what side OP would choose if there was a civil war between what he considers the left and right
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They really think their impotent chud fantasies will come into fruition
