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Sometimes I think this but then I remember united europe and it reminds me that diversity is our strength
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I'll report you for fedposting again blud
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Gold
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>>3080912The best way to dull your connection with the divine is to recite vain phrases created for you
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>>3080914Suck a cock and die from aids.
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>>3080915We are commanded to pray without ceasing
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>>3080914Blow vagina and live from fent
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>>3080919You've ceased praying doe
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>>3080921I have, wretched sinner that I am. However that is not reason to reject the Jesus Prayer.
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>>3080922Kill yourself faggot.
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>>3080927No one's rejecting anything you're just reliant on a feeling you think you get from words, like a tulpa or something. Might as well do mushrooms in the forest like a mystic
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>>3080932By saying this you are denying the effect of prayer though
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>>3080884 (OP)You ain't gon do shit timmy
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>>3080943You are misidentifying that and prayer itself though. Whatever you feel isn't the effect of prayer it's a socially informed self-coping mechanism that lowers your cortisol, that is if you genuinely feel anything at all. You can achieve the same effect by trusting da experts
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>>3080952Undedicated nulee reposting the same shit over and over
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>>3080965You can be sad or anxious or nervous or distraught about anything, and you can console yourself any way you want. That doesn't necessarily come from God that's just an internal process. I think in the effect of genuine prayer God plays an active and necessary role (Philippians 4:6-7 "Peace of God"/"God's Peace") that isn't reducible to a biological/psychological nature, which repeating to yourself "everything will be okay" over and over looks a lot like that.
I'm not saying I can fully quantize and interpret human qualia, I'm just saying if you look at a merely material effect of the conscious mind influencing itself through the physical expression of its thoughts in the brain the way a motivational poster works with no outside input from God, and you confuse that with prayer, something that can't happen exclusively within the human mind, that would be sacrilegious.
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>>3080997I mean no offense by this, but you are severely overthinking this. Praying to resist temptation is a very simple concept that is well supported in the Bible and by the Church and there really is no reason to question it, whether the effects are biological or spiritual notwithstanding.
>the conscious mind influencing itself through the physical expression of its thoughts in the brain the way a motivational poster works with no outside input from God, and you confuse that with prayer, something that can't happen exclusively within the human mind, that would be sacrilegious.Evoking the sacred Name of Christ via the Jesus Prayer can not be reduced to a "motivational poster". And given the fact that it is a petition to God for mercy, it does not happen exclusively within the mind.
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>>3081021You turn it into a motivational poster by manufacturing and consuming it at a mass scale that's my point
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>>3081027Could you elaborate on this? How am I "manufacturing" the Jesus Prayer? How does people using it on a mass scale make it no longer a prayer?
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>>3081038I think the subconscious perspective and perception of the person on their own words and thoughts influences the message, and I think it can potentially turn it into not a prayer. For instance if you said it sarcastically, it's not like the magic rules of the universe bind God to respond because you recited the words, like when you say a witches name or something
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>>3081051I suppose sarcasm would be bad, but that seems like a uniquely exceptional circumstance.
>it's not like the magic rules of the universe bind God to respond because you recited the words, like when you say a witches name or somethingThis is a very bizarre view of prayer