[ home / overboard ] [ soy / qa / raid / r ] [ craft ] [ int / pol ] [ a / an / asp / biz / mtv / r9k / tech / v / sude / x ] [ q / news / chive / rules / pass / bans / status ] [ wiki / booru / irc ]

A banner for soyjak.party

/pol/ - International /Pol/itics & /Bant/er

Politics & countrywars
Catalog
Name
Email
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Password (For file deletion.)

File: 1773669578150a.png πŸ“₯︎ (776.07 KB, 1344x2300) ImgOps

 β„–3074525[Quote]


Which is gooder?

 β„–3074535[Quote]

Haplo is more descriptive

 β„–3074549[Quote]

>>3074535
Both have their merit, but sometimes it feels like Anthro is the Haplo before DNA sequencing was a thing.

 β„–3074551[Quote]

>>3074541
You should've just had haplogroup (not DNA) vs anthroautism, both complement each other and early anthropologists readily combined blood group and early dna into their studies, overfocusing on "phenotypes" is stupid since we aren't studying random phenotypes but rather phenotypes exhibited by specific racial groupings.

 β„–3074553[Quote]

>>3074549
I would agree. The only thing I could say phenotypes have going for them over haplo is the added social aspect, which imo is highly snca

 β„–3074562[Quote]

>>3074551
It is certainly helpful with people who's genome hasn't been sequeced, aka. 99% of all dead famous people.

 β„–3074565[Quote]

>>3074562
>It is certainly helpful with people who's genome hasn't been sequeced, aka. 99% of all dead famous people.
Definitely

 β„–3074572[Quote]

>>3074551
Agreed. They are not inherently competing fields, but they have historically been two approaches to the same general question.

 β„–3074602[Quote]

>>3074551
>we aren't studying random phenotypes but rather phenotypes exhibited by specific racial groupings.
Is there a rough established benchmark where this transition happens?

 β„–3074658[Quote]

File: xyUTiogdUdrQuJuB.mp4 πŸ“₯︎ (46.39 MB, 2160x3840) ImgOps

>>3074602
>Is there a rough established benchmark where this transition happens?
This was most readily used by Egon von Eickstedt, but as a general rule of thumb most racial differences in europe is transitional, most of central europe is a large mixture of all the 5 main european "races" (nordid, alpinid, mediterranid, east europid and dinarid) with different areas having majority populations. Nordids are the majority in northern france, lowland countries, north germany, scandinavia, british isles). Alpinids in most of central europe but especially from east france to northern italy dwindling into the carpathians.
Overall phenotypic considerations are very useful sinc eit is a relatively large amount of traits that differ between populations.
A nordoid spaniard being blonde, blue eyed, light skinned with projective gonions and a robust jaw doesn't randomly become "nordid" because of these traits, look at the individual in the video, his eye area, midface, brow ridge etc are clearly of mediterranoid inspiration (though he likely does represent a recombination of nordid features as he combines multiple features). Getting someone who looks fully scandonordid is exceedingly rare and vice versa. Getting a short genuinely iberian looking individual in Sweden is exceedingly rare, even if a Swede is dark they will usually have characteristically large nordoid features.
Phenotyping is a very useful diagnostic tool, especially when measuring a large amount of features, but we always need to remember that we are just studying racial grouping and not seldom populations made up of mixes between some closely related races (from iberia into southern france to the northwestern tip of italy we have a homogenous group made up of mixes between gracile mediterranids, atlanto mediterranids with some minor nordoid admixture).

 β„–3074665[Quote]

swede make a whiteness map

 β„–3074672[Quote]

>>3074658
This seems to kinda confirm what I was thinking, but I wonder why those 5 were picked specifically. Is it because of the greatest density of people within those brackets, and also greatest distance between them you could chart, or is it something else?

 β„–3074731[Quote]

>>3074672
These were the most distinct differences, but even within populations there are large differences, we can split up the mediterranid race in europe into two main groupings a "western" group encompassing iberia, souther france and the nw coastal slither of italy contra southern italy, greece and assorted islands. Even though both populations were originally "mediterranid" genetic drift and admixture (more "northern" ancestry in the western, more "eastern" in the "eastern" group). Eickstedt and Lundman discusses these definitions extensively with definitions of "gautypus", "volktypus" etc.

 β„–3074736[Quote]

File: Volksgesicht-Flandern-0222….jpg πŸ“₯︎ (25.81 KB, 504x378) ImgOps

File: 30f.jpg πŸ“₯︎ (7.85 KB, 160x208) ImgOps

File: tumblr_nje9m117Fr1slbwszo1….jpg πŸ“₯︎ (28.51 KB, 250x353) ImgOps

File: 26.jpg πŸ“₯︎ (8.44 KB, 159x210) ImgOps

>>3074658
A few nordids for comparison
>Pred nordid from flanders
>Brit
>Norwegians

 β„–3074748[Quote]

File: Egon Freiherr von Eicksted….jpg πŸ“₯︎ (227.24 KB, 1013x1491) ImgOps

File: Egon Freiherr von Eicksted….jpg πŸ“₯︎ (312.43 KB, 1004x1488) ImgOps


 β„–3074756[Quote]

Interesting, thank you

 β„–3074768[Quote]

>>3074756
No problem!

 β„–3074777[Quote]

>>3074731
**admixture shifted them away from each other

 β„–3074815[Quote]

>>3074777
This will definetely be the most avtistic question I ever ask on this site, but is there a way for me to anonymously send you my facedox for analysis?

 β„–3074893[Quote]

>>3074815
I don't mind, but are you sure you want to send your face to a random autistic racist (o algol)?
If you're sure we can do it anonymously over protonmail, xitter, irc dms or boorum dms. Which would you prefer?

 β„–3074973[Quote]

>>3074893
I wanted to do an ancestry test soon anyways. Kinda lean on finances tho, and seeing how tistic you are it's probably as good a guess as can be. Ive never dm'ed on xitter but send me any alt and I'll add you

 β„–3075003[Quote]

both good

 β„–3075025[Quote]

>>3074973
Alright! I'm making an account, you can just remind me tomorrow.

 β„–3075169[Quote]

Up

 β„–3075245[Quote]

>>3075025
Why not rn doe



[Return][Catalog][Go to top][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ home / overboard ] [ soy / qa / raid / r ] [ craft ] [ int / pol ] [ a / an / asp / biz / mtv / r9k / tech / v / sude / x ] [ q / news / chive / rules / pass / bans / status ] [ wiki / booru / irc ]