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Killing people is bad so when you kill people for eugenics it's bad
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>>3006137It's not about killing people doe
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I remember debating this same topic whit a pagan dude and i genuinely dont know other than "killing people le bad"
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>>3006137Selective breeding isn't contradictory to Christcuckery btw
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>>3006149How are you gonna set that up though? Do you tell the bad genes to not breed and force them to ablige or something?
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>>3006165How is that a larp but eugenics isn't
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It's not a moral reason but nearly all traits currently present in humanity arguably either present some sort of evolutionary advantage, or are the result of said traits being taken too far. If shit like autism didn't present SOME advantage it and traits like it would have died out. If you start eliminating genes from the gene pool on some arbitrary view of what is "good" genetics, you risk fucking over the entire species if those traits allow some of the population to survive a new plague.
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>>3006137Can be achieved without killing people. Sterilize the unfit, encourage the genetically gifted to breed more.
>christicuckold kikeslave is the first to leak about thisKek.
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>>3006174This was basically already done via the church regulating marriage, and thus procreation.
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>>3006174this is already happening today with chad harems tho
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>>3006155Thats not very Christpilled
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>>3006173Ah yes, 60IQ retards are absoulutely essential for humanity's survival.
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>>3006183Nigger that's the "trait being taken too far" category. One sickle cell gene makes you resistant to malaria but two gives you a crippling disease. The resistance to malaria was enough of an advantage that evolution didn't nuke it.
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>>3006183Maybe not currently but in the future, brain power takes up a lot of energy you know?
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>>3006172Eugenics is a larp and so is the liberal use of the death penalty, the amount of false convictions makes it too high to be worth it when life sentences do the exact same thing, no one who has commited heinous crimes is living they're just existing in limbo but it just gives the opportunity for those who have been falsely imprisoned to get justice in the end.
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>>3006190>We should put more burden on the tax payer rather then just killing criminals outrightRetardGOD
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What is eugenics? Which traits are superior? Who chooses?
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>>3006193They're right, the justice system is so fucked that the number of false convictions makes the death penalty a pretty bad idea
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>>3006190>Just let criminals dwell in their wretchedness in a secular prison system instead of giving them an actual opportunity for repentance before deathBrutal
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>>3006196Ev&doe many criminals DO find God in prison
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>>3006137How is killing people bad
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is eugenics even real
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>>3006193FFS prisons aren't that expensive why do niggers want a strong fascist central government but then leak when they become part of the people's community
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>>3006198One of the 10 commandments is literally "Thou shalt not kill" retard
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>>3006196They have a chance for repentance before death the exact same way they should be compelled to better themselves
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>>3006215thx me neither
>>3006208are you trying to b8 be honest
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>>3006194Ok, that's enough LARPing from me, when I said there doesn't exist universally fit traits I kind of lied, it's pretty obvious that generalist traits (traits that can survive multiple settings) will always win over specialist ones (traits that only excel in hyper specific scenarios), and as for who chooses? Whoever can enforce it.
>>3006195Problem with the justice system, not death penalty.
>>3006201The whole point of becoming a Fascist and not a Commie is paying taxes knowing it will go towards your own people and not some sick foreign criminal
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>>3006217No i'm being completely earnest
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>>3006219Sure but unless we can actually fix the justice system then the death penalty remains a bad idea
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>>3006222>The sky is blueI know nigger
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>>3006219Deport foreign criminals
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>>3006194>Which traits are superior? The ones that are found in people wo contribute more to society and don't harm others. And the inferior ones are the ones found in people who disrup and harm society, such as being prone to criminality. Most criminals today in the US prisons are extremely low-intelligence people who can barely even read and write. There is no reason for most of those people to exist and breed. They are absoulutely useless eaters who contribute nothing of value even when they aren't in prison. We should encourage highly intelligent people to breed more while forcefully preventing the unintelligent from breeding.
>but intelligent people naturally don't want to breed and are prone to suicideThey wouldn't be this way if the world wasn't full of retards. Because then, the world wouldn't be such a shithole and they would want to live and breed.
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>>3006174>supressing religion so you could turn more people to your propaganda meatgrinder and dictate new rules saying what's right and what's wrong despite the genocide of innocent people being the one of your core ideas>>3006220ok
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>>3006238At least the low-IQ niggers can work minimum wage jobs that the "superior" ones would probably kill themselves over
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>>3006238counter eugenics is state welfare which promotes the poor (stupid browns) to breed so just remove welfare and the money freed by this can be used for tax cuts for the rich (whyts)
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>>3006258genociding
(((innocent))) people
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>>3006250Ever heard of slavery?
>>3006252Ever heard of Jews?
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>>3006269Whipping people because they're retarded is stupid doe
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>>3006269non argument
the majority of people benefitted by broad tax cuts to the richer end of society would be whites
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>>3006276Stop saging the thread nigger
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>>3006265jews weren't the only victims o algo
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>>3006238Latinx women like to do reverse eugenics by having lot's of kids with criminals
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>>3006272Jews is anyone that makes me leak, slavery is like… Based or something
>>3006273Pain is a pretty good motivator for the stupid, but I digress, I'm not saying it's a superior choice to just making them into labour/minimum wage, I find the latter to be much more efficient in fact
>>3006276Retard, some traits are parasitic, that is, they won't just go away after you remove welfare, they'll find ways to keep sucking off the rest of society, nepotism as an example.
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We dont know any were near enough about biology and chemistry to think we should be doing eugenics.
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>>3006296You've clearly never dealt with a pissed-off retard if you think whipping them is a good idea, they'll literally flatten you geg
>>3006302This is the correct answer
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>>3006296without the state to endorse such parasitic traits the only possible avenue for continued welfare is family, who quickly gets sick of their shit
nepotism is literally eugenic praxis, you're putting presumably the product of 2 smart people in charge of your company
>>3006299socialism is the main mechanism for mass murder in the 20th century and will be for the 21st
do not act as though you will not be ran over on the road to serfdom
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>>3006310And you've clearly never been hit by a whip, they wouldn't do shit.
>>3006315Retarded nigger, what if someone deceives and lies in order to get ahead of their competition? What if someone uses addiction and borderline invasive practices to market their product? What if someone goons to 'p and is just all around a degenerate faggot? Will you just turn the other cheek because of muh NAP?
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>>3006333I have been, actually (don't fucking ask), but even then, tard strength is a very real thing. I've seen entire sofas embedded in walls, unless you IMMEDIATELY shut them down you're FUCKED.
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>>3006333>what if someone deceives and lies in order to get ahead of their competition?fraud is aggression
>What if someone uses addiction and borderline invasive practices to market their product?addiction is the fault of the chainsmoker, not the cigarette producer
>What if someone goons to 'p and is just all around a degenerate faggot?in a future system you are allowed to then ostracize them from your community, as of right now you aren't
>Will you just turn the other cheek because of muh NAP?the NAP is generally a useful tool for finding if something is ethically okay, but outside of that there's several models of libertarian society
you can have your own gated community without the influence of degenerates
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>>3006340>addiction is the fault of the chainsmoker, not the cigarette producerNigger do not get me fucking started on this retarded argument
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>>3006289All women are inherently attracted to retarded violent criminals. This is why we shouldn't let them freely choose who they breed with. If we did, if women were TRULY free on who they chose to breed with without the fear societal judgement or financial concerns, the world would eventuallt be full of retarded psychopathic murderers who are all 6'5. We would literally be in the stone age.
Abortions have been a huge help in that regard but they're not ideal because a lot of smart people have it too. Still probably does more good than it harms.
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>>3006343get started then
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>>3006340>Fraud is aggression because… It just is ok?!And how would you even meet fraud with? At least when someone tries punching you, you fight back, how do you fight back against fraud?
>Addiction is actually the fault of the guy for trying it ev&doe the company shilled it absolutely everywhereRetard, people shouldn't become essentially thoughtless slaves just because of one decision they've made
>So… I have no answer to this, I'll just reflect it I guessgeg, the NAP is retarded because aggression is is necessary for any species to survive, if you can't uproot a parasite from your body you will get sucked dry.
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>>3006346I've been hit by a whip, retard. One of my idiot cousins got a hold of one years back and thought it'd be funny to hit me. Didn't stop me from knocking him on his fucking ass before the pain eventually shut me down. If I had actually been trying to kill him I could have.
>>3006348It becomes the fault of the cigarette manufacturer when they blatantly lie to the general public for decades claiming they're healthy when they knew it caused cancer and designing ad campaigns to get kids hooked as early as possible. The tobacco industry is perhaps the single least defensible industry in human history.
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>>3006363Anarchism is just a LARP meme ideology that doesn't take human nature and deception into account, at the end of the day companies will just lie about all their products, profits and ethics just to get the upper hand, you can say it violated the NAP but why does it matter if nothing's gonna be done about it?
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>>3006370…Nigger where the fuck did you get the idea that I was talking about anarchism, I was just going off on the faggot saying it's the smoker's fault for getting addicted
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>>3006360fraud is aggression because you violated the terms of your agreement
>And how would you even meet fraud with? At least when someone tries punching you, you fight back, how do you fight back against fraud?if somebody is proven to have broken the law nobody would insure him or provide him services
>Addiction is actually the fault of the guy for trying it ev&doe the company shilled it absolutely everywhereif you fall for cigarette commercials you are the demographic eugenics is targeting for extermination LOL. Again, proper eugenic praxis
>geg, the NAP is retarded because aggression is is necessary for any species to survive, if you can't uproot a parasite from your body you will get sucked dry.The defining characteristic of humans is our ability to reason
If you want to be reduced to pure beast who aggresses at his whims go live in the forest away from civilized society, but if you don't you need to accept that the law of the jungle is not a reasonable ethic for any ideology or system. Parasites sink to the bottom in a system without safety nets to artificially suspend their economic status.
>It becomes the fault of the cigarette manufacturer when they blatantly lie to the general public for decades claiming they're healthy when they knew it caused cancer and designing ad campaigns to get kids hooked as early as possible. The tobacco industry is perhaps the single least defensible industry in human history.Same point I made before + it is only man who can account for his actions, not some nanny state to decide what we can or cannot be subjected to. I'll take cigarette commercials if that means taking the most prosperous economic system ever
>Anarchism is just a LARP meme ideology that doesn't take human nature and deception into account, at the end of the day companies will just lie about all their products, profits and ethics just to get the upper hand, you can say it violated the NAP but why does it matter if nothing's gonna be done about it?1. Companies who lie about their products or profits would very quickly lose any banking or stock trust and nobody would want to invest for that reason.
2. The entire reason for 'fair trade' is because of a trust of ethical production on the company's part. If you build a business, it's easier to gain trust and gain reliable profit than to lie and be exposed and lose all trust/investors.
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>>3006391Stop saging the fucking thread you dumb fuck
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It's also funny seeing the avid defenders of the largest mass murder organization ever chastising me for.. allowing cigarette commercials
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>>3006391>Nobody would insure him or provide him servicesEver heard of bribes you utter moron? If someone does find out, they'll probably just buy them out in order to keep deceiving, and do you think everyone is some sort of 120 IQ master noticer? No, the average person is just gonna buy their products going by the label, which is filled with misinformation in this very system, so imagine one where the state doesn't exist, there is no risk to fraud if everyone is doing it, which they will.
>Let me just… Hyperfixate on cigarettes for your argument here!Applies to anything addictive, porn, food, weed, drugs, etc, fucking moron.
>Defining characteristic is the ability to reasonWe can still, and should aggress those who deserve it, such as parasites
>Erm, parasites actually die out once you remove safety netsPsychopaths are a great example of how this is not the case, anti-social, most likely sadistic, and yet high IQ, these people would prosper in Ancap society
>Companies that lie will lose customers for it! How would people find out? Uhm… Erm…..Lying is better both long term and short term, short term because it diverts attention and investment to you, and long term because it will starve out competition, so even if you (somehow) get exposed and (somehow) don't bribe the exposer, you can just get away with it since the competition will have been long, long dead.
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>>3006432To be fair, the first answer was discounting the use of self defense. You can extract just compensation if you have been proven to be defrauded yourself if those means fail.
>Applies to anything addictive, porn, food, weed, drugs, etc, fucking moron.My arguments still apply to those. If drugs were legalized, those in communities which only would allow non-drug users to live would have low practical impact
>We can still, and should aggress those who deserve it, such as parasitesAggression against those who have violated natural law would be considered force against those who deserve it, but you probably mean slaughtering brown people for the sake of being brown people
>Psychopaths are a great example of how this is not the case, anti-social, most likely sadistic, and yet high IQ, these people would prosper in Ancap societyParasites do not die out. They simply sink to the bottom (as corresponds their social nature). Psychopaths aren't universally evil mass murderers, and are a small fraction of the population.
>Lying is better both long term and short term, short term because it diverts attention and investment to you, and long term because it will starve out competition, so even if you (somehow) get exposed and (somehow) don't bribe the exposer, you can just get away with it since the competition will have been long, long dead.Natural monopolies do not exist. The competition in this scenario can close down until predatory pricing ends, or a banking organization backs the underdog for future massive monetary gain as I think Vanderbilt did for the steamboating industry in New York. Saying the competition would be long dead assumes once these businesses shut down, no new competition could ever exist afterwards when this predatory pricing occurs.
>Oh, and by the way, the only way the competition can survive is if they lie as well,No. They can simply provide better prices for better products. No amount of propaganda will change the nature of lower prices and better products triumphing over those with higher prices and worse products.
Since you've levied many criticisms of Anarcho-Capitalism, I'll levy some towards national socialism:
National socialism has the exact same issues as socialism. You cannot both go "communism bad" and promote national socialism because both have the same economic system. Central planning fails in any case. In Ludwig von Mises' Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth, he highlights the central problem of central planning: You cannot economically calculate as efficiently or at all if you are a socialist nation. Let's presume for example you're a greedy capitalist building a road from A to B with a mountain in the way. Using available prices, you can easily decide which is easier: going through or around. If engineering is cheap and wood is expensive, you build through, if vice versa, you build around. You maximize the common good because you consume goods not needed as much in certain sectors, reducing scarcity. The socialist in city C to D has no money-prices to use to find what route would lead to the common good. How could he know if Wood or Engineering costs more, if the people charging the prices are simply commisars filling revenue quotas? Mass false economic calculation is to follow.
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>>3006458What kind of niggerbabble are you talking about in the start? And your vision of just compensation is just bribing for them to stay silent about the fraudulent practices.
<FaggotChildren exist, if a kid is introduced to addictive substances, is it their fault? & Who's gonna stop that from happening?
>The parents!!!What if they are the junkies introducing them to those substances retard? Your ideology just cannot handle children, nor can it handle human nature.
<NiggerThere is no argument as to why one shouldn't aggress something they are 90% will hurt them in the future, always better safe then sorry retard.
<Kike>Psychos aren't that bad my guy!geg, just geg… But no, most parasites end up forming their own little gay communities in order to stay alive and relevant, they'll soon grown into tumours which a caps simply can't do anything about as long as they "follow the NAP dood"
<RetardNot just predatory pricing you retard, thats easy to notice, I'm talking lying about what products are actually made of, or lying to investors, the kind of stuff that's not public, and since dog whistlers would be invading privacy to find out anything it means that they would be violating the NAP, fucking retarded nigger ideology
<Idk I ran out of slursDidn't talk about prices, GEG.
<Erm… Also your little hit piece on socialism only really affects large scale countries, if done on a country with little population/demand (which is the direction we are headed), it'll be much easier to find estimates + scarcity will be less of a problem
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>>3006133 (OP)without disableds and autistics who would we make fun of
>the inherent comedic value that a retard instinctively provides is more than enough to keep them alive. with eugenics we wouldn't have chris chan. there goes the best gegmine ever discovered. when a man can't find a place in the kingdom, make him your jester.
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>>3006517ancapfaggots lost
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>>3006133 (OP)it hurts peoples feelings, so its le bad