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Minnorth is probably closest yeah
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Satan is my lord
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I'm atheist but I LARP as Christian online
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@Asoori @somebuddy
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i just read religious stuff, only abrahamic so far but its interesting. theres alot though but if i had someone paying me to do research i could dedicate my life to theology.
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>>2982528Is he even baptized
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>>2982564Not yet IIRC but he's working on it, and he seems the most genuine about his beliefs
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i can say without a doubt that there is a god and i would have became a priest if i didn't need college education and theology degrees that takes 8 nigrillion years to complete
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Cultural Christianity is a good thing, and it probably always will be. The religion of Christianity is also a fairly good moral code overall. I would even if I became Atheist support the Muslim avalanche of apostasy and probably try to slow christian apostasy rates.
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>>2982520 (OP)>people who identify as christian/muslime so that they can do the le based trad holy warrior larpi do this
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>>2982571What denomination are you
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I used to be way more religious in the past. There was a moment in my life i actually believed and felt Christ in a very real and emotional way but as time has passed life has been giving me so much shit its changed me a lot. Sometimes i really miss that honestly, it felt really good, maybe if i actually took action in that moment and spinned my whole life around i would be in a better place right now
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Even if I doubt God at all, I still go to church every week. It's a great experience.
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>>2982611When bad things happen to you, pray. When you do bad things, pray.
Your life will get better instantly trust.
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>>2982632i would have joined a baptist or lutheran church however
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>>2982633I feel like the baptists tend to be the nuttiest ones doe
They're always the ones with the like aggressively preachy signs out front
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>>2982638thats like the westboro "god hates fags" baptists though which is like 100 dudes in kansas
most are just southerners going to the closest church to them that preaches the bible
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>>2982643I mean I've seen shit like that with small Baptist churches in Rhode Island too; they're obviously not all anywhere near the WBC but they've always just seemed generally off to me
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>larping as a mudslime so you can larp as a sex offender
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>>2982654so you just hate on the Vatican for fun?
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>>2982664this vs larpwaffen
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>>2982674This only makes the Orthodox sound butthurt 500 years later btw
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>>2982674The Vatican is pretty gay doe and they are Diddy bluds.
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>>2982675>>2982677I just thought it would be a funny gigaquote
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>>2982687That's.. a really good reason for doing so.
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>>2982665Catechism 841, is heresy, openly.
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>>2982681any church that allows pastors to flaunt their political belief into scripture and twist it into what they want is not a church but a synagogue of satan
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>>2982692>Catechism 841Youre arguing like a simple minded faggot or a Protestant, i wouldnt use this one if i was you.
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>>2982698Its like stating "catholics friggin venerate idols dude!!!!"
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>>2982697Wait, it's you?
I learned about Rothbard endorsing David Duke or something like that LMAO
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>>2982709EVERYTHING in theology is substancially more nuanced than what you get in the first impression.
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>>2982692It literally just means that they worship the Abrahamic God that we do (i.e. the New and Old Testaments are part of their scripture)
Not sure where the interpretation that Islam is a path to salvation comes from because it does not say that
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>>2982709To be fair they're closer to Christians than the kikes are because they acknowledge Jesus as genuine
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>>2982716Saying this again won't make you right btw
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DENIERS OF CHRISTS DIVINITY ARE DEFINITIONALLY ANTI CHRISTS
Matthew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
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>>2982717>To be fair they're closer to Christians than the kikes are because they acknowledge Jesus as genuine>closerthey are neo-kikes still
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>>2982716>If you look at Lumen Gentium (LG), the Vatican II document from which the quote is drawn, it becomes clear that the phrase is not meant to say that Islam is a method of salvation parallel to Christianity. The quote comes from LG 16, but it is part of a larger context in the document. To appreciate how it fits into the picture, one needs to go back at least as far as LG 13, which starts by proclaiming, "All men are called to belong to the new people of God"-i.e., to the Church. Section 13 concludes by stating, "All men are called to be part of this catholic unity of the people of God. . . . And in different ways to it belong, or are related: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally all mankind, for all men are called by the grace of God to salvation."
>All mankind is called to the "Catholic unity of the people of God"-in other words, to become Catholics. Some have done so, and so LG states that some "belong to" the Catholic Church while others are related to it "in different ways." Those who belong to it are "the Catholic faithful," while those who are related in various ways include "others who believe in Christ" (who are related to the Church in one way) and "all mankind" (who are related to the Church in a different way).
>The next three sections of LG (14-16) are taken up with elaborating on these three groups.
>LG 14 concerns itself with Catholics. It begins by stating: "This sacred council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. . . . Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved."
>This of itself repudiates the idea that Islam or any other religions are as good as the Catholic Church. LG 15 turns to non-Catholic Christians and states, "The Church recognizes that in many ways she is linked with those who, being baptized, are honored with the name of Christian, though they do not profess the faith in its entirety [e.g., Protestants] or do not preserve unity of communion with the successor of Peter [e.g., Orthodox]."
>Note that it does not say that these Christians are part of the Church, only that they are "linked" to it many ways, some of which it then goes on to name (Scripture, faith in Christ, baptism). While noting that God works among them, LG does not say that it is okay for them to remain where they are: "In all of Christ's disciples the Spirit arouses the desire to be peacefully united, in the manner determined by Christ, as one flock under one shepherd, and he prompts them to pursue this end." In other words, God's grace leads them toward becoming Catholics too. â„–2982731[Quote]
>>2982721By your own logic muzzies aren't antichrists then, because they DO acknowledge Jesus as divine, they just think God sent another guy after him too
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>>2982732Ok youre baiting me
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>>2982731They don't think he was divine though
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>>2982731Muslims deny that Jesus is the son of God.
They deny his divinity.
Period.
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>>2982735I mean I might be misremembering, but I could have sworn they at least regarded him as a genuine prophet
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>>2982740They think of him as a purely human prophet, not divine
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>>2982741please post this once more because I forgot to read it the last 3 times
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>>2982743Fair enough, but that's still better than the kikes. I can see why the church puts them above the jews on the list
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>>2982739Because that would lead me to a path of non-salvation when i know the true church is right there, its simple as. What a Pope allegedly says doesnt change Catholicism, and Catholicism IS just as based as these sedevacante churches, except more based because they have an actual pontif and actually valid sacraments and so on and so forth
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>>2982744Is not catechism the official view of the catholic church?
The catholic church specifically states that muslims, even though they literally deny christ, and by Christ's own words, deniers are antichrists, are essentially Christians.
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>>2982747Exactly, nowhere in the document does it claim that Muslims will receive Jesus' grace, only that they have the potential to be saved easily due to their existing belief in a scripture that includes Jesus. The "plan of salvation" is not a list that indicates who is and who is not to be saved (that would be Calvinism, which is in error with scripture, but not explicit heresy). It effectively says that evangelizing to a Muslim is easier than evangelizing to a jew or atheist.
>>2982758If you read maybe anything written about the Catechism you would know this is not the case. Alas!
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>>2982749>What a Pope allegedly says doesnt change Catholicismyes it does nigger, you were vehemently defending Catechism 841
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>>2982761Anything elee you wanna say?
Im not arguing for you to become a Protestant or not be a Christian, im saying, plainly, Vatican 2 is open heresy.
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>>2982763But thats like a whole different thing geg, what a Pope allegedly tells some guy in an interview in a semi-formal setting is in no way shape or form comparable to an Ecumenical Council
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>>2982765I would like to hear what exactly you take "plan of salvation" to mean
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>>2982765That youre wrong
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>>2982762>erm chud, even though it literally says the thing, very clearly, it doesnt mean it, ok?Is catechism 841 heretical, yes or no?
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>>2982771It is not because you fail to recognize what "plan of salvation" means
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>>2982770>>2982769>>2982773Do muslims worship the same God as Christians?
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>>2982775hey nigger answer the question
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>>2982776Do muslims worship the same God as Christians?
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>>2982780go ahead and answer my question first since I asked it first
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>>2982731They do acknowledge jesus as Divine but they deny him as the Son of God that is God.
There's a difference because they're all retarded
At a surface level they think he was a messenger sent down from heaven as Ruh'Allah/Kalimat'Allah that will come back and reign as a righteous kind on judgement day and Judge on that day, Satan never touched Him or Mary, and that his messengers spread his word to Rome
But they don't think he's divine at a very surface level.
Their Hadith/Quran teaches that he is a very very special man but because they're all retarded sandjockeys they don't think he is divine because of Tawheed
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>>2982767What i meant to say by
>What a Pope allegedly says doesnt change CatholicismIs the Pope is allowed to have conversations whitout it changing dogma. The Pope actually CAN be wrong in a non ex-cathedra setting wich is 99.999% of the time. He usually isnt, and when he is it certainly is a bad thing and he should correct himself, but they are allowed to be WRONG.
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>>2982767for a pope to even think this is heretical- if the pope says love all faggots, are you going to turn away from scripture and start loving faggots? no. his opinion doesn't matter. the pope is not divine and he is not all knowing. he is a MAN and he shouldn't be: 'end all be all' like most catholics treat the pope as
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>>2982782Qualifying muslims worshiping Allah, and denying the son of God, Jesus Christ, as worshipping the same God as Christians does not facilitate a "plan of salvation". It deludes them into thinking Allah isnt baal.
Do muslims worship the same God as Christians?
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>>2982784…and you're wrong again, you overcorrected here. Beginning to think you don't know what you're taking about.
Jesus is 100% human according to Islam because no human has ever been divine (Tawhid) according to the Qu'ran
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>>2982785What a pope says actively does change dogma because of Unam Sanctam & Dictatus Papae giving the authority of the church to a single man, the "Vicar of Christ".
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>>2982784>They do acknowledge jesus as Divine but they deny him as the Son of God that is God.Literal definitional impossibility. The divinity of Chirst IS THAT HE IS THE SON OF GOD
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>>2982775>God is aware of and acknowledges all that is good and true in the worship offered to him, however imperfect an understanding of him a worshiper may have. While Muslims, like Jews, do not accept the Trinity, they do acknowledge that God is the only true God and that he is merciful. This means that they honor things that are true about God but have a limited understanding of him.
>Christians have a fuller understanding of God because he has revealed more to us about himself: specifically, that he is a Trinity. This doctrine cannot be deduced by human reason; it can only be known by revelation.
>Failure to accept this revelation of the Christian age does not stop Muslims from worshiping God any more than it stops Jews. It means only that they know less about God and that they have erroneous corollary ideas (for instance, that Jesus is not the Son of God).
>To make clear how this works, allow me to take an example from pop culture: Suppose that you and I both knew millionaire Bruce Wayne. I might know, because he revealed it to me, that he is also Batman. You may hear this claim and reject it, in which case you adopt the false corollary belief "Batman is not Bruce Wayne." That does not mean that you don't know and relate to either Bruce or Batman, it means only that you misunderstand the relationship between them.
>In the same way, one may worship God and honor Jesus as a prophet (which he was) without understanding that Jesus is God. Indeed, many people in his own day did that: They knew the historical Jesus but had a false understanding of his identity. â„–2982800[Quote]
>>2982792youre baiting mi
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oh wait there's two pink USA flag UIDs here, I got you two mixed up
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>>2982758Nigger even I can read it over and realize that they mean "It'll be a lot easier to save the muzzies because they already at least believe in the same god and acknowledge that Christ was at least genuinely tied to God"
>>2982780They literally do, dumbass, they just have a different name for him. The very fact that they acknowledge Jesus at all says as much. Christianity evolved from kikeshit, and the muzzies similarly derived from Christianity. They're inherently closer to Christianity because it was the basis for their religion to begin with
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>>2982789We have these too btw if that matters
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>>2982796>>God is aware of and acknowledges all that is good and true in the worship offered to him, Muslims cannot worship him. Because they deny him, as God.
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>>2982791Sahih al-Bukhari 3286 - Beginning of Creation
>The Prophet (salla Allah `alayhi wa-sallam) said, "When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead."
>Muslim expositors have interpreted Q. 19:16-21, 21:91 and 66:12 to mean that Allah sent Gabriel to appear to Mary who then breathed into her body which caused her to get pregnant:And Mary (wa-Maryama is a supplement to imra'ata Fir'awna) daughter of 'Imran, who preserved [the chastity of] her womb, so We breathed into it of Our Spirit, namely, Gabriel - when he breathed into the opening of her shirt, by God's creation of this action of his which reached her womb, thus conceiving Jesus - and she confirmed the words of her Lord, His prescriptions, and His, revealed, Scriptures and she was of the obedient, [one] of the obedient folk. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn, Q. 66:12; source; underline emphasis ours)
>(And Mary, daughter of Imran, whose body was chaste, therefore We breathed therein something of Our Spirit) and so Gabriel breathed inside her garment and she became pregnant with Jesus. (And she put faith in the words of her Lord) she believed in what Gabriel told her that he was the Messenger of Allah entrusted with giving her a holy son (and His Scriptures) and she also believed in His Scriptures: the Torah, the Gospel and all other Scriptures; it is also said this means: she believed in the words of her Lord that Jesus the son of Mary will come into being by Allah saying "Be!" and he became a human being, and she also believed in His Scripture: the Gospel, (and was of the obedient) in times of hardship and comfort; and it is also said that this means: and she was obedient to He Who is far transcendent and majestic'. (Tanwir al-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas; source; underline emphasis ours)><And Maryam, the daughter of `Imran who guarded her chastity (private part).> meaning, who protected and purified her honor, by being chaste and free of immorality…
><And We breathed into it (private part) through Our Ruh,> meaning, through the angel Jibril. Allah sent the angel Jibril to Maryam, and he came to her in the shape of a man in every respect. Allah commanded him to blow into a gap of her garment and that breath went into her womb through her private part; this is how `Isa was conceived. This is why Allah said here…
><And We breathed into it through Our Ruh, and she testified to the truth of her Lords Kalimat, and His Kutub,> meaning His decree and His legislation. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)You must be tihnking of the wrong guy buddy
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>>2982806The interpretation Catholicism has of these things is completely reasonable nigger, just puzzle the pieces together
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>>2982806ACKtually they only deny God the 'Son
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>>2982794What i'm saying is that Islam actively contradicts itself on the divinity/specialty of Christ and that they all worship a Qurayshi Pagan form of Ba'al that Muhammad prescribed to them dancing around the black cube.
The religion actively teaches that Christ was never touched by Satan, he was the Messiah to the Jews and to the World, He will come back on the day of resurrection as a righteous king to rule over the world, and that he is Ruh'Allah & Kalimat'Allah (Active translations are a Spirit from Allah and the Word of Allah (The Word of God… In the beginning was the Word)).
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>>2982802They do not.
Denying Christ
IS DENYING GOD.
Luke 9:26
"If anyone is ashamed of me and my message, the Son of Man will be ashamed of that person when he returns in his glory and in the glory of the Father and the holy angels."
2 Timothy 2:12
"If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we deny him, he will also deny us."
1 John 2:23
"Anyone who denies the Son doesn't have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."
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You kind of ruined me wanting to going on a back and forth whit you whit your baiting so im just gonna hope you someday puzzle the pieces together
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>>2982790Ontologically yes because of the shared Abrahamic tradition. Effectively no because they do not believe in the Holy Trinity.
And that is what the Catechism means, and that is all the Catechism means. Sorry it was presented in a way that took so much effort for you to understand.
Then again, simply "worshiping the same God" means very little other than a mutual understanding due to shared scripture. I'm not saying that Muslims' denial of Christ will somehow lead them to salvation, as a matter of fact nobody says that.
>>2982809This actually is kind of interesting since it would seem to violate Tawhid, I'll have to read more into it.
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>>29828211 John 2:23
"Anyone who denies the Son doesn't have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."
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>>2982802You cannot be a Christian without believing that Christ is God. believing anything else is Heresy. The fact you say it's "Kikeshit" means you don't really know what you're talking about anyways.
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>>2982823Again whit the same bullshit nigger, how do you not know about these things?
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>>2982832I just google the verses you cuck
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>>2982822Good sources are Sam Shamoun & God Logic. The nigger and Chaldean actively dismantle every Dawahgandist that comes towards them
Jay Dyer is kind of up there but he's better for inter-christian / atheist debates
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I swear ive seen these things be debated a billion times and they just keep popping up
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>>2982832translation of the original texts don't matter
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Also i just noticed its 2 different americans i was wondering why they were typing so fast geg
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>>2982839And they WILL NEVER STOP
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>>2982840It ABSOLUTELY DOES
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>>2982836they let you choose a version when you look at the verse
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RETVRN TO FIRST MILLINEUM CHRISTIANITY HERETICS=+
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>>2982831Nigger if you can't tell that "kikeshit" is just me shitting on Jews because of the site that we're on, then you're actually retarded.
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>>2982845Im not coping off ai, i just copied the first one, because my point STILL STANDS
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>>2982837yeah nigga I got no idea what these words mean but I'll look into it, thanks
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>>2982851pick a better Bible though
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>>2982844<Then if the original texts matter that much you should be reading the Septuagint, the Shepherd of Hermas, Clement, and the Didache, as it's what Christians read from 100 AD to 400 AD.
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>>2982853Cmon
>>2982854You woukdnt believe it, but I do.
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>>2982852Nigger - obvious
Chaldean - Syriacs/Assyrians
Dawah - The script all muslim debaters follow from to actively dodge questions about Allah and spread propaganda.
Sahih Al-Bukhari - Sahih (Truthful, highest grade of transmition) hadith (historical quotes from the companions of muhammad) collection
Quran - holy book of Muslims recited by Muhammad, was supposedly given to him by Jibril (Gabriel) in a cave.
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>>2982857fair enough
Anyway, all the Catechism says is
>Muslims read the Bible too and they at least know who Jesus is beyond the level that a kike or atheist could be expected toIt's not claiming they will receive salvation through Islam, that would be insanity.
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>>2982857I'm not saying it to be pointed and snobby, I'm saying it to be genuine
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2806039.htm>7. But for greater exactness I add this also, writing of necessity; that there are other books besides these not indeed included in the Canon, but appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of godliness. The Wisdom of Solomon, and the Wisdom of Sirach, and Esther, and Judith, and Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. But the former, my brethren, are included in the Canon, the latter being [merely] read; nor is there in any place a mention of apocryphal writings. But they are an invention of heretics, who write them when they choose, bestowing upon them their approbation, and assigning to them a date, that so, using them as ancient writings, they may find occasion to lead astray the simple.>…that there are other books besides these not indeed included in the Canon, but appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of godliness. The Wisdom of Solomon, and the Wisdom of Sirach, and Esther, and Judith, and Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd…these are 9 extracanonical books that are considered holy for instruction necessary to a catechumen by a church father, a saint, and the man who defended the trinity to what would be his dying breath in the first nicene council, St. Athanasius.
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double posted a quote my bad
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>>2982520 (OP)Im cradle orthodox so I'm not larping
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>>2982866Literally as simple as this, its legitimately anti-intellectual at best and horribly dishonest at worst to get scandalized whit such a small thing.
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>>2982860Bros on point
>>2982866The history of islam, both its conquest and myth history, should tell you to give them the same mercy as we gave to pagans. Islam is baal worship.
Chop
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>>2982879That means we should evangelize to them though
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>>2982868No, I know, and im saying I do geg. Because it does matter. Are you willing to read the Schofield bible? I hope not.
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>>2982866Muslims do not read the bible, they cherrypick quotes to say That Isa (Which isn't even Jesus arabic name, it would be Yashu) is a proopheyt and not divine. Every single chapter of the Gospels point to Jesus Christ being Divine as the Son of God and is God.
If they were allowed to read the bible, then they wouldn't be muslim.
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>>2982889What sect are you then, Catholic?
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>>2982882I agree, but not by saying Allah is the same God the father WE worship, because thats just not true. These people pilgrimage TO THE BLACK CUBE OF SATURN, COME ON MAN
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>>2982890And yet they claim it to be part of their scripture as an Abrahamic religion
And thus they should be introduced to the Bible through a neutral lens and not that of their own extended scripture, as the Catechism suggests
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>>2982892Agreed
>>2982895Negative. I adhere to orthodoxy, but I havent even been baptized yet… ive spent the last 10 years of my life reading and learning though..
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>>2982901>saturnOh for fuck's sake we're on this shit again
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>>2982910The obviously dont see it as that, but are we really going to try and deny this?
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>>2982914What the fuck even is your obsession with Saturn, dude? Like is it actually the fucking planet you're leaking about?
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>>2982919Christ sacrificed on the unfolded cube, as what was prophesied.
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>>2982920Do satanists exist?
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>>2982929I don't know how the fuck you get from Satan to Saturn, dude
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>>2982901I mean we kind of have to act like it's true because purely off the scriptures it is
Any Abrahamic "God" refers to the same God revealed originally in the Pentateuch, and the differences are in how worship is conducted (idol worship in this case which is bad). It's like saying that Mormons worship the same God as we do. Technically more correct than not.
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>>2982936To love them, isnt to let them live in a lie.
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When people ask what I am irl, I respond with Catholic, because I am, technically. Truth is, I genuinely have no idea what do believe in. The past decade has kinda royally fucked me and my faith in many institutions. However, I do lean toward Christianity, as there is just so much evil and awful shit happening these days, it makes me think that all this talk of demons was actually based on some truth. Islam is just straight up BS, though, and Judaism sounds like literal Satan worship (which would make complete sense).
All other religions are just larp or, again some demon worship.
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>>2982940Yeah which is why we evangelize as I said
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>>2982940…which is why the plan is to save them in the first place.
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>>2982934Have you read the kabbalah? What about the gnostic texts, or maybe Egyptian mythology?
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>>2982940We dont say its right theyre outside out of comunion whit the Catholic Church and Christianity, its just a fact of life. Maybe when we evangelize the whole world other religions wont be a problem but meanwhile they are and we have to deal whit them other ways than to call them heretics.
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Massachusetts flag are you Catholic
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>>2982950Not to mean we are coping and cucking to them, we are trying to understand them is all.
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>>2982909oh well then we're on the same page because i'm baptized orthodox
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>>2982955Technically Greek Orthodox but I am admittedly lapsed. I was forced to be an altar boy and that shit really turned me off the church thing as a whole
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>>2982961Raised Greek Orthodox? Is there a big community of them out there I didn't know of?
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>>2982936perennialism itself is heresy, the church's ancient doctrine believes in one ark that Noah rode the flood on to be saved by God, as is one church that will be the ark that will ride throughout the second coming
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Well there's that one Buddhist and some hindoos
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>>2982967There could be supernatural joinings to the body that is the church but Paul warns of Shipwreck in 1 Timothy 1:18-19
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>>2982966There's at least a few clusters of them in the area, yeah. Newport has a pretty big Greek festival each year right on Thames Street
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>>2982967It's not perennialism because it only has to do with religions CLAIMING the Abrahamic lineage and scriptures, which any random pothead making up a religion (See: Rastafarianism) can do
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ASSAAAAAAAH THE THREAD IS TOO LONG LARPEALD
I am cradle orthodox doe so everyone else is larping.
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>>2982981I'm cradle Catholic and the mexican probably is too
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>>2982960>>2982950>>2982947>>2982945It is bed time, good night friends. God bless!
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>>2982990Good night dude, I should sleep too
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>>2982981don't think yourselves above any convert just by being born into the faith, don't remember where I saw it but the divide between cradles & converts was zealotry and acceptance
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>>2982977the claim of abrahamic lineage & scripture means nothing, it allows for people to creep in and claim "judeo-christian" or "abrahamic" values as these religions and actively subvert the population they are targeting
The reason why it's nonsense is because the referential reduction of worshipping the "God of Abraham" is only prescribed in one way by the God himself, and the only right way to worship it is found in Christianity, not in Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah's witnesses, Dispensational Christianity, and in Judaism.
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>>2983005The difference seems to be converts are easily baited
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>>2983068being Orthodox is what matters, Pan-Orthodox events still happen and it's really just divided among local/ethnic lines. You can still be accepted into a Russian/Serbian/Bulgarian/Palestinian/Greek church even if you're not their ethnicity.
Your ethnicity does not bar you from salvation, what matters is you run the marathon for the faith
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>>2982621going to church, confessing, and taking the eucharist is necessary to be a part of the faith however
Go! It's lent nigga
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>>2983035You think so? It seems contradictory to most Catholic theology but I can see the logic behind it at least
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>>2982819Oh. I didnt know this.
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>>2983106it's because (Modern) Catholic Theology is heavily usurped by the context of Vatican II and Nostra Aetate.
You don't question TLM vs. Novus Ordo or how to approach the Pope's words because it's shoved down your throat since he took off the triple tiara in the 60/70's.
It contradicts V1, the council of Trent, and all the Papal letters posted before the 70's and up to 1054.