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i voted for bernie personally
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>>2982093unc voted in 2020 dayum
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>>2982100hes mexican he couldve been 11
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>>2982088 (OP)Trump = pedo but Bernie is a Jew and by proxy probably also a pedophile. Brutal
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>>2982107Trump is not a pedo doe
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>>2982107Bernie is one of the good ones
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Bernie is a better person, Trump is very vain
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>>2982197I personally would choose Trump on policy. Demeanor is not a major factor in quality of life for the average person.
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I don't really like Trump anymore, I might have to become a Bernie Bro. Or at least I would have if he wasn't so old.
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>>29822251 trillion bomalians coming up
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Bernie is a kike commie and a champagne socialist but at least xe isn't a pedomaxxer
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I'm starting to think Trump betrayed America
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>>2982107IIRC literally the only mention of Bernie in the files was Epstein worrying that Bernie was onto him helping his friends evade taxes or something like that, Bernie is genuinely one of the good ones geg
>>2982225While he's still more coherent than both Trump and Biden I unfortunately don't expect that to last long enough for him to potentially serve a term
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>>2982259Same with Ron Paul, Massie, the like. If you're a fringe political candidate ofc the political establishment will only speak of you briefly or in disdain
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>>2982235is he a progressive like that, I don't really know anything about the guy
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>>2982262I picked up an older game that I haven't played in a few years and was jumpscared by Thomas Massie as a villager name geg
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>>2982266Nigga he's Biden on steroids. Social hedonism squared and welfare for brown people
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>>2982266From what I know about him, not really; Bernie is one of the few liberals that actually consistently gets people in deep red regions to agree with him on lefty shit because he actually has relatively balanced takes and explains to people exactly why and how the stuff he's suggesting will help
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>>2982278Strictly nothing wrong with welfare in itself, it's our specific current system that's broken and encourages people to coast between jobs on it
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>>2982279>relatively balanced takesHe really doesn't. We live in a moderate left economic and social situation, he's far left. He's basically just democrats who don't shout at white people LOL
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>>2982288>Strictly nothing wrong with welfare in itselfThere is. You're stealing money from the productive class and moving it to the unproductive class.
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>>2982293>productive class vs unproductive classLet me guess, you're the kind of retard that goes on about how poor people spend more of their income than rich people.
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>>2982299No, it's because if you're receiving more from welfare than you put in through tax you're unproductive as a worker. Not particularly hard to grasp
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>>2982303The solution is not to let people starve to death faggot
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>>2982305Nobody starved to death before the advent of modern mass welfare during the 1900s.
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>>2982305Minorities don't deserve my money.
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>>2982308Poor people don't, but close enough.
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>>2982307>nobody in human history ever starved to death until welfare was inventedHoly fucking nigger
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>>2982314You could obviously from the slightest inkling of faith realize I'm talking of the period of 1800-1920s roughly. Very few in America starved during this period of roughly unfettered free market capitalism.
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>>2982316>unfettered free market capitalismNigger you do realize they were also literally putting sawdust in our food back then too, right?
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>>2982316The Federal Reserve was also created in 1913
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>>2982320The fed started open market operations in 1921.
>>2982319Very few such cases, and the progressive movement blew up cheap bakers cutting their bread w/sawdust to push wide regulatory reforms on industries that were doing fine beforehand.
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>>2982325Yes, I'm agreeing with you
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not that nobody starved but just that we were better off
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>>2982331I thought you were saying the end date of the 1920s was a false end because 1913 was the start of the Fed.
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i voted for the jew
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the day i went to vote for bernie sanders was the most redpilling day of my life.
place was full of stupid old boomer bitches bragging about how theyre gonna vote for hillary cause shes a woman
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>>2982325Holy shit nigger, Heinz invented tomato ketchup in an age where the main use of existing ketchups was to cover up the taste of rotting meat; he literally chose glass bottles because cutting food with additives was such a widespread problem that he wanted people to see that his shit was clean. Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle in 1906 to expose the horrendous conditions in Chicago meatpacking plants, and the revelations were so fucking huge that it was partially responsible for the creation of the FDA. People like you who worship the free market like that are the most vantablack of all niggers
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>>2982346>he literally chose glass bottles because cutting food with additives was such a widespread problem that he wanted people to see that his shit was cleanThis is an example of the market fixing quality issues without government intervention..
>Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle in 1906 to expose the horrendous conditions in Chicago meatpacking plants, and the revelations were so fucking huge that it was partially responsible for the creation of the FDAMeat inspection methods were and still are a joke. They used a rod to poke meat and sniff it for poison. They used the same rod for all meat. If there was a disease on the rod, they spread it to every single piece of meat (thousands) it came across. I'd hesitate to say this is better than the market
>People like you who worship the free market like that are the most vantablack of all niggersWorshipping the state I see
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>>2982346>wellpoisonclassic tactic
>The Aftermath: The Birth of the FDA
>When newspapers across the country published the stories of 22 children dying from tetanus-laced medicine in a single month, the public understandably lost their minds. Vaccination rates plummeted. Parents refused to let doctors anywhere near their children.
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>>2982364Oh BTW 'The Jungle' was not a factual account. It's like citing Atlas Shrugged in a debate about free enterprise GEG
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>>2982259democraps are too pussy to run him, they're going to run some SNCA or another woman next time
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>>2982374They'd run Buttigieg before Sanders
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>>2982360I sure as hell don't worship the state, I'm just also not the kind of fucking drooling retard who trusts corporations and the free market to actually care about their customers when you can look at the history of the tobacco industry alone and realize they literally don't fucking care if they're outright killing you as long as you have kids before you die for them to sell to instead.
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>>2982382libertards are so retarded geg
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>>2982382"they literally don't fucking care if they're outright killing you as long as you have kids before you die for them to sell to instead."
This is the type of rhetoric democrats ran to limit soft drink sizes
It's your fault if you're a chronic smoker
And if you are a socialist, you do have a worship of the state as some arbitrary objective entity to wield against the evil satan of free enterprise.
Central planning has never worked. When government does stuff, bad things happen, including regulations.
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>>2982396what are your thoughts on paying coal miners company scrip instead of real money and forcing them to live in company towns where the only accepted currency is company scrip?
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>>2982396>it's your fault if you're a chronic smoker ev&doe they knew it caused cancer for decades and did their best to hide it so that people wouldn't get scared and stop buying cigarettesYou are such a nigger that you'd make a black hole look pale, actually fucking kill yourself you worthless cuck
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>>2982402Who do you think they sent in when the coal miners tried to undo this arrangement?
The military.
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>>2982396>When government does stuff, bad things happenLiterally a battered-wife attitude, just because the U.S. government is incompetent doesn't disprove the idea of authority itself.
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>>2982404It's your fault. The future effects of smoking have nothing to do with their ethics in terms of consumption. The government is not your dad to say whether you should have this drug or not.
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>>2982409All government is incompetent. All men are born free and will die so.
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>>2982411>>2982412Oh so you ARE a lolbert. Good, we can just fucking ignore your faggot ass now
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>>2982406the military which was bought and payed for by said company, can you please answer my question? is it ethical to pay workers fake money?
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>>2982416If you're the type that would outright ignore those who you politically disagree with, you're not the type I'm trying to reach. Something about Isaiah's job.
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>>2982412How do you justify this claim?
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>>2982420It's no longer simple political disagreement when what you're saying is genuinely retarded, shit-for-brains
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acked latinx braps and his consequences have been a disaster for the soysphere
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>>2982419It's ethical to pay workers fake money if they agree to work for such. The conditions under which men would agree to be paid for scrip have to be coercion by the state, however.
>>2982424This is just genuine socialist leakage dude. Get a tissue, I'm sorry if this inflamed you to the point of rage.
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>>2982429Sorry, my brother, idiocy such as this tends to fall beyond the limits of my patience.
>>2982431If you're genuinely going to try and defend the actions of the tobacco industry to me, I'm just going to call what you're doing exactly what it is: retardation.
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>>2982430Oh no, I've been a libertarian far longer than Taxed Brass has been around.
>>2982421We can establish the basis either everybody owns everybody else, people own themselves or groups own people, or vice versa. We can eliminate everybody owning everybody else since conflicts over the use of people would instantly occur and be untenable unless everybody collectively agreed to every action ever taken. For this reason, we can also eliminate groups owning people since groups cannot act, only men, and conflicts within said group would mean without 100% majority no action would ever be able to be taken. The only proposition where no conflicts of interest occur is people owning themselves. There is no conflicting interests of what people want to do with others if all men are born free. I'll elaborate on this later if needed
>>2982446Defending the indefensible is a common libertarian hobby. There's even a book by Walter Block on it.
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On 1 man owning groups / others:
On what basis can you claim this man has a natural right to own others? His interests are not exalted above any other regular man. To claim one man can own many or another is to claim his interests in the end are greater than all theirs combined / the other man's
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>>2982449>Defending the indefensible is a common libertarian hobbyHoly shit, then you need a new fucking hobby dude. Get yourself a yoyo or some shit.
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>>2982449Why is "no conflicts of interest" a good end? And are you a moral relativist?
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>>29824681. "No conflicts of interest" is a good end because conflicts of interest must be resolved unless violence is to occur. Unless conflicts of interest are in a timely and objective manner solved, mass violence is to be created where people with their conflicts unresolved will and have turned to violence to satisfy ends not met with civil means.
2. AFAIK no