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thats the point nigguh its a clicking simulator
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Autism spreadsheet sim.
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>>2973780I'm convinced the average player doesn't know what they're doing when they're playing
>>2973782>t. rimworld player â„–2973798[Quote]
To distract autistic nazi chuds with bright colors, niggerlicious mechanics and historical larp so they can never revolt
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>>2973774 (OP)HOI4 isn't complicated, you fucking retard
It's economy system is so oversimplified to the point it can almost be a sarcastic caricature of the war industry.
They even had to simplify for the consumer nigger brain the HOI3 mechanic of frontline management and had the AI handle it
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>>2973774 (OP)I think it's actually easier to learn than EU4/5 or CK2. The units and upgrades are a pain in the ass because there's so many of them.
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>>2973812Well its not complex in the sense of each mechanic being hard but rather of there being so many things going on at the same time which can be very confusing for a new player
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>>2973822this
chudcels teach me how to play so that i can btfo my friend
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>>2973774 (OP)This image gives me vnc raid ptsd
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EU5 has an interesting option to let the AI manage a chosen set of the game's mechanics for you. e.g. if you don't want to bother with trade (like me), you just set it to be automated. you can automate almost everything this way, kek
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>>2973826those used to be fun
>>2973829then why play
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>>2973829I like EU5 since there are languages and ethnicities in the base game
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>>2973774 (OP)You're a retard that's why
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>>2973846don't worry being a retard isn't that bad
its what hitler would have wanted
>>2973849tbh, mods are the only thing keeping hoi4 alive
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>>2973833I think there's no way to automate diplomacy, so there's still reason to play if you want a simple simulation based on "what if"s, like delcaring wars etc.
The last version i played was 1.0.7, right after the launch, doe
>>2973839I think the whole system of tying your overall country's power to the demographics is far more realistic, I like it
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>>2973853A Youtuber called Bitt3rsteel has REALLY good beginner tutorials. Just go on his channel and search up "tutorial" on the channel search. He makes an updated tutorial almost every year as new DLCs and mechanics come out so it's always up-to-date
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>>2973854Yeah I like modded a lot, though recently i've been achievement hunting in vanilla since I felt like it
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>>2973862thank you weekingtug
>>2973854that's reassuring
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>>2973877Also germany is a really good starting nation. I suggest going down the "economy of conquest" economic branch of the focus tree but then cancelling MEFO bills BEFORE you take the austerity decisions to lower consumer goods on your nation trait. This lets you play at your own pace without worrying about going bankrupt halfway through Barbarossa, good strat for beginners
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Really you can only learn it through trial and error IMO
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>>2973862Holy fucking shit unless you're playing against players you can literally do anything and it'll all work out
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I can understand you making this claim over something like wargame or warno but HOI4? Are you FUCKING RETARDED?
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>>2973901I hope I understand this in the near future
>>2973913I don't like wasting time and doing things I don't understand
>>2973914>>2973921I just downloaded it you retard, it's my first time playing an rts and the official guide looked like niggerbabble, stop acting superior because you know how to play a game
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>overcomplicatedits literally not nigga, its easy as shit to the point where i have to play full buffed ai on elite difficulty just to get some challenge. Although you DO need to spend some time on it since its boring watching guides so you have to learn through trial and error. If you REALLY want to learn the game go join a multiplayer game and just do what they do
>>2973849mogged
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>>2973914A lot of new players struggle initially against AI. Obviously because they're new.
Once you pass the learning curve then raping the AI becomes a cakewalk, especially when you realize soft attack and breakthrough are essentially the only stats that matter at all.
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>>2973944complicated=/=hard
but thanks for the advice
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>>2973955It looks like an airplane terminal when you play hoi4 for the first time, but you quickly realize it's much simpler than it looks. Compared to other paradox games it's basically First grade
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>>2973955IT'S NOT FUCKING COMPLICATED, NIGGER! IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A SPREADSHEET!
VICKY 2 IS FUCKING COMPLICATED. THAT SHIT LOOKS AND ACTS LIKE A SPREADSHEET(Coincidentally also the best paradox game)
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>>2973955The kikes at paradox just make the game overcomplicated for no reason. Two three years ago we didnt have all this snca design stuff for tanks and planes and the game was better. But since paradox are money hungry kikes they wanted to add new DLC's even though they unnecessarily complicated the game to newcomers.
For example i have 3700 hours and i still dont know and dont really care about how navy works
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>>2973972>vic 2>complicatednigga just build factories it aint deep
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>>2973973No step back and the shitty italy airplane DLC were all good changes. I don't think any DLC coming after that was good though
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>>2973973I personally like the tank and plane designers, also Navy really just boils down to spamming destroyers for light attack with an occasional heavy attack cruiser
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>>2973971>Compared to other paradox games it's basically First gradefvck
>>2973972you're leaking brother, it looks complicated
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>>2973984Vicky 2 doesn't have as many meta monkeys as HOI4 so it's more fun in MP
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>>2973986>No step back and the shitty italy airplane DLC were all good changesbefore the update you made 5 agility planes with range, after the update you add engine 3s and two lmgs to F2 variant.
nothing changed. they didnt add interesting ways to design mission spesific planes they just made the research tree more complicated
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>>2973973Yeah half of the screen is HUD
I wish it looked cleaner
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>>2974003Wait until you see the Victoria 3 HUD geg
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>>2974001HOI4 is destined to be submissive to the meta since it's by design a combat-oriented game so it's therefore very competitive
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>>2974011Put down the niggers at paradox who made that trash
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Actual fiery garbage. Absolute dogshit, a total mockery of vicky 2
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>>2974011thankfully my pc is too raped to support it so I won't be playing it any time soon
>>2974016>>2974026stop leaking
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>>2974012this is why playing mp sucks. i played mp like 2 years ago both RP and hist and it was fucking miserable. you just wait 6 hours playing economy sim and just as you are about to do something germany player dies because of some retardation.
now i just play mods like OWB in singleplayer since hoi4 atp is only fun singleplayer. MP is full of metatroons who hate fun
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>>2974038Yeah I don't suggest buying any new Paradox releases. They've all been ass. Though I will say they did a SLIGHT redemption with the German DLC on hoi4.
Not suggesting it since it's a crime, but you can still play Multiplayer if you just Pirate all the DLCs
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>>2974011i bought and played vic3 but its not really fun. i like the economy but still dont get why i cant just import materials from neighbors if i have no sea access to global markets. like nigga just cross the border and buy the materials
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>>2974048generally any game with an online competitive scene is annoying and not fun to play
this used to be the case when I played TCGs, playing at home with friends or in casual lobbies was much better
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>>2974055then what older games do you like
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if you dont know how to play hoi4 youre a low iq sandnigger
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>>2974059Shitty nigger game
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>>2974074EU4 is pretty good thougheverbeit I don't play it nearly as much
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>>2974085You're not the target audience for these types of game anyways
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>>2974085whats that supposed to mean
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>>2974110You're a sandturd
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>>2974110He's just trying to discourage you because he's sperging that you're asking questions about a game you just got that he's already had
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>>2974112I just downloaded it, why would I know how to play it from the get go
>>2974116ok and you're brazilian you're not much better
>>2974119It's sad honestly
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>>2974067parakikes really do say this kek
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>>2974129I'm coming over to your village and buying it in its entirety for 7 lambs and a half
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>>2973787rimworld is not exactly a game but more of a "history creator" by the developer own words so it makes sence to be complicated and wacky
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>>2974129real ass niggas just know without having played it
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The target audience for these types of games already have it engrained in their DNA how to rule over nations… since you're a slave sandturd you can't even comprehend this genetic predisposition, i'm sorry
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Microsoft excel but for chuds so it's le good, ISFJ tier game
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>>2974619did you ever play it
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>>2973774 (OP)because video games are for trannies
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Nobody knows how to use navy, myself included