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Unfunny fail bait. Though you can go ahead and prove it real quick.
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>>2948493You're a turk, calling someone "monkey" ?
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>>2948500turks are less subhuman than indonesians
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>>2948507Even though turks like BBC, even got banned for it.
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>>2948506Nevermind you're just baiting.
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>>2948509kurds
>>2948511>everydang i dont like is baitim quoting one of your retarded muslim buddies who said that it was ok and got a 3 day ban
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>>2948515Okay? How would this in any way logically represent the theological framework?
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>>2948519what theological frameqork nigger your prophet married a child according to sunni scriputres and i was quoting a muzzie who said it was right geg
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>>2948522You can't even track the conversation. Go ahead and prove your claim real quick.
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>>29485221 (ONE) person assumed false assumption is right doesn't mean it logically represent the theological framework, Retard. Also Aisha was 19.
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>>2948525prove the claim that aisha was a child? sahih muslim 1442c sahih muslim 1422d sahih muslim 1422a sahih muslim 1442b
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>>2948527>aisha was 19if youre a quranist then dont even think about placing some biography (that doesnt even explicitly state aisha was 19 btw) without isnad above sahih hadith kek, youd be better off saying "its unknown"
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The well-known historian Ibn Jareer al-Tabari writes at page 50 of volume 4 of his 'Book of History': "Abu Bakr married two ladies in the days of ignorance. Fateelah daughter of Abd al-Aza was the first, from whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Umm-i-Rooman was the second, from whom Abd al-Rahman and Aisha were born. All the four children of Abu Bakr were born in the days of ignorance from the above-named two ladies.
It is a well-known fact of history, that Abu Bakr's son Abd al-Rahman fought against the Muslims in the battle of Badr. His age at that time was 21-22 years, and although he was older than Aisha, there is no evidence to show that the difference between their ages was more than three or four years. This fact lends support to the view that Aisha was born four or five years before the Call.
Now we know that Aisha was engaged by prophet Muhammad (p) in around 11th year of call (i.e.around 620 ad ) and consummated by marriage after three years i.e., around 623-624 a.d.. Now do the calculation the calculation . In 623 when Aisha's brother was 21-22 , at that time Aisha (r) was not less than 18-19 years .
Hence when Prophet Muhammad (p) engaged her in 620 ad she was around 16-17 years . Almost after 2-3 years Prophet (p) married her and took her to his home , which tends her age finally around 19
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>>2948547>ibn jareer al tabariin his story there are also several mentions of Aisha being 9 at consummation, the text you mention in the book has a broken isnad with unreliable narrators which shouldnt be placed above sahih hadith to favor your agenda
>Abd Al Rahman was 22 in the battle of badr and the age difference was no more than 3 or 4 yearsi remember looking this one up and genuinely couldnt find any source
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Why do I have you flag filtered, if you post this gem? Must've been for a good reason
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>>2948548if i remember right tabari included reports saying she was 9 in volume 9 page 130-131 and vol 31 page 171-173
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respond seanigguh
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>>2948548>>2948575This is presuppositions, i want proper EMPIRICAL evidence or I will dismiss you with hitchens razor.
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>>2948610what the fuck are you tlaking about pseudointellectual midwit? tell me what kind of evidence you want ive already told you that your sources are not reliable and that you have not cited a source stating that rahman and aisha had a three year age gap
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>>2948548>tell me what kind of evidence you want ive already told you that your sources are not reliableEvidence that ibn jareer al tabari Aisha being 9 at consummation, I already researched in his book and there isn't mentioned at all.
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>>2948634i gave you the pages faggot its in the english versionhold up ill send you a pdf
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>>2948658Further Reports Concerning This According to Ibn Bashshar-Yahya b. Said-Sufyan-Ismail b. Umayyah-'Abd Allah b. 'Urwah-his father ('Urwah)'6- 'A'ishah: The Messenger of God married me in Shawwal and consummated his marriage to me in Shawwal. 'A'ishah liked her women's marriages to be consummated in Shawwal. According to Ibn WAY-his father-Sufyan-Ismail b. (1263] Umayyah-'Abd Allah b. 'Urwah-'Urwah-'A'ishah: The Messenger of God married me in Shawwal and consummated his marriage to me in Shawwal, and which of the Messenger of God's wives did he favour more than me? 'A'ishah liked her women's marriages to be consummated in Shawwal. According to Abu Ja'far (al-Tabari): It is said that the Messenger of God consummated his marriage to her on a Wednesday in Shawwal in the house of (her father) Abu Bakr in al-Sunh."
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>>2948684what about this, she saying she got married in the tenth month of the muslim calendary? it doesnt contradict anything?
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>>2948694You strawmanned the entire book
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>>2948700????? can you read? are you fucking retarded man?
>the messenger of god…. …it eas said to him that she was his wife [she was six years old at that time] and later, he consummated his marriage with her after coming to medine when she was 9 years old