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Alunya has fallen the FUCK off
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>>2925103Repeat with me: Ash-hadu an la ilaha illa Allah, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan rasulu Allah
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Did alunya get mindraped by tbp
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Alunya, you converted? Smh
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>>2925119errrrrrrrrrrrm you mean reverted
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Didn't read.
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>>2925173>dude is from serbiaLooks like god already punished you
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>>2925198>we live like dogs but at least my monkey eyes don't see brown pepo outside the pod i call home so this is infinitely better than living in spainholy cope
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>>2925202You're just begging me to gigaquote this
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evendoe your prophet is a pedophile according to shias, your book is full of lies (no nigger can fly to the moon with a pony and split it in half), and all of your countries are unstable shitholes
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>>2925507I think his point was if we genocided kuffars before none of this would of happened
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>>2925507Nice presupposition, g ahead and substantiate all of you points retard. Also, Muhammad (PBUH) being a pedophile has been debunked numerous times.
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>>2925537Woh let's not digress buddy you can just say you don't personally believe it at most
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>>2925552^Large BRAAAAPPPS of fail baits above me.<Brentpoop transrights will never save the white race.
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>>2925567Denying the existence of trans muslims in 2026 will never make our movement succeed. As a trans muslim convert myself, we cannot compare our sisters with kuffars such as that.
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>>2925576Catastrophic fail of a bait, nice try though.
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>>2925582>Bait is when I disagree!You're literally letting them win.
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ISLAM KEEP WINNING AND UNBOTHERED!
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>>2925591Warrior-Z's prodigy right here
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>>2925579You do realize that marrying children is counted as pedophilia right? Best thing you can do is deny it
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>>2925598Is that the BBC report? You do realize that they are heavily bias to make Muslims look more presentable to the left party
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>>2925595Warrior z is the GOAT. I like his contents A lot.
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>>2925598You keep bringing this retarded image on every thread of IslamWIN. Go ahead and prove this raisin represents the theological framework.
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>>2925607Idc, I post it for gegs
Show me a statistic that disproves it if it's not true
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>>2925635I didn't say it does but it makes mudslimes leak
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>>2925624You do realize that Aishas age is heavily debated in the Muslim atmosphere and people do end up with different conclusion about how old she is (mostly 19). And denying she was 9 doesn't count as kufr because it's not a piler is Islam o algo. But if you want to defend it you can go ahead but don't be surprised if people call you a pedophile.
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>>2925639I was just saying I really don't care lmao. It's just a sad excuse to white wash their rep about being backwards
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>>2925644it is sometimes disputed, but to say that most scholars say she is 19 is very disingenuous
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>>2925654Of course but again you can basically have your own interpretation on this matter since there is no other source about Aishas age in any other scripture so it's basically unverifiable
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>>2925662the problem with this mindset is youve destroyed your epistemic foundation for trusting any hadith by allowing your own interpretation ultimate authority
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>>2925644But you actually NEED to address this claim, if simply just denying a false assumption without any further clarifications whatsoever. People will STILL bring up said false assumption. So literally the best option here is to debunk and address the false assumptions. please think logically, i actually respect to my tunusian brother because majority of its population is muslims.
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>>2925694He isn't baiting though
Most scholars do say that trans women are hecking valid
Can we from there not assume that they may be making other disingenuous claims
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>>2925686youre right. its not enough to just appeal to the fact that its disputed and then assert you interpretation, you need to provide evidence for your reading. either site specific scholars or show which isnad chain youre referring to, otherwise its effectively just interpretive relativism
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>>2925697Literally just fuck off, retard. You didn't even bring any substances at all to the table, just braps and braps all over the place.
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>>2925678It's not about trusting Hadiths it's about questioning the Arab beduans capabilities of accurately counting ages. So anything said by anyone else but mohamad in a Hadith is yet to be questioned
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>>2925703You just call every point of view you disagree with bait
I'm actually trying to discuss this here but you keep clitty leaking every time anybody actually tries and scream "BAIT BAIT YOU'RE FUCKING BAITING MIIII!!!" like a parrot
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common dawla W
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>>2925708Or at least I think that I might be raping Islam's fundamentals by saying this but it seems like a logical conclusion
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>>2925537>all of you pointsGEEEEEG ESL I WQNNNNNNNN
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>>2925722And that's a conclusion I made when I learned that most Arabs in that time married at 12-14 and since Aisha was married beforehand it just leaves me baffled how contradictory this Hadith goes against real history but I might just be niggerbabeling idk.
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>>2925712the number itself might not be 100% reliable, but there are strong contextual clues such as 61:30 sahih al-bukhari. it is true that more specific hadiths on her sexual maturity came later, such as ibn hajars commentary saying she was prepubescent so I understand your scepticism. if a Muslim were to take ibn hajars commentary at face value, would you say that they're justified to do so or that they are being unreasonable?
>>2925722an AI summary from a google result is not a substitute for an argument
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>>2925733I am just presenting the others side argument I am not saying that this is 100% factual even if it was ai
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>>2925734im not saying you are, im just asking if you think that a Muslim taking Ibn Hajars commentary at face value is justified? or if they are being unreasonable or not rigorous enough?
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>>2925751I am not sure but most scholars agree that he was truthful
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>>2925733And about 61:30 sahih al-bukhari this happen many years after Aisha married Mohammad at snca war I forgot about so even if she was 9 she would of been an adult by then so playing with toys is not a sign if maturity since we don't know the social norms of the beduan Arabs in that time.
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>>2925722Why were her sisters' ages documented as usual then? Unless you imply that there could be a difference in age of 21 years between sibling in 7th century shitskin realm
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>>2925694I'm not baiting
I'm making a point about an appeal to authority
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>>2925762so if its reasonable to use Ibn Hajars commentary as a justified interpretive tool, then why cant I use that same commentary to make a critique of Islams ethics?
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>>2925099 (OP)>civiliansWhen you look at any combat footage in mudlsime countries the average "soldier" is a 160 cm tall shitskin in an fc barcelona t shirt that fires at actual soldiers from a "civilian" house. Its completely justified to kill shitskin "civilians" when their "soldiers" are in no way distinguishable from them
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>>2925789I believe here sisters age was calculated using some historical events that happened with xim when she was born or something.My point is that it is laughable Muslims trust beduan Arabs at bringing actual facts about anything. Just take everything with a grain of salt. Or just don't follow Hadiths I dunno you won't go to Islamic hell if you didn't.
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>>2925803Just to make this clear: do you think that aisha was underage or not?
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>>2925789You're appealing to reconstructed historical reports about Asma to dismiss reconstructed reports about Aisha. That's selective skepticism unless you apply the same methodology consistently.
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>>2925808I don't think anything lol and I am not making an argument for neithers side. I am just pointing out how fragile Hadiths can be sometimes and how schoolars don't care about the facts and just want to produce more Hadiths. This is why I think a sect like shia Islam is closer to Islam spiritually then sunnies and farther politicly