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>>2877358 (OP)Honestly giving up the sherdee for lent is a great idea
I have already quit many of my other mortal vices completely
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negrobumping until minnesotan replies
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>>2877358 (OP)I want to become more ascetic.
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>>2877358 (OP)give up da shardee and focus on work for lent
so you stop gooning to fpe epi geg
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>>2877358 (OP)>>2878590the easiest way to do this is to make time out of your day to go to the weekly church services btw
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>>2877408we never completely quit our mortal vices brother
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>>2878606Now is not the time for this Alunya
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>>2878606This is a weird claim since 95% of Europe is atheist and we still dont see socialist utopia.
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>>2878616https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_(process)Praxis is the primary argument dialectic that the communist employs. You will never get through to him, as he lives to argue and denigrate via Marx's application of Hegelian Praxis. He will not see to Miracles, he will not see to evidence contrary to the fact, he will just argue to argue.
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>>2878606I consider myself agnostic and this is sick, it stinks of jewery and NWO
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>>2878647of course it would stink of jewry, who else would take glee in crucifying Christ? The communist, toppler of the Germanic elite in russia, to push laws of Jewish protection in the Soviet regime.
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>>2878636alunya sexy dance
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>>2878636Weird since you are so obsessed about it, from an outsiders perspective you may not have claimed that its the only aspect but due to your emotional response made it seem like its a primary one. Next time dont argue with you emotions but instead with facts.
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>>2878631Respect to Marxists for being constantly proven wrong and still finding ways to justify their beliefs
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>>2878636How come that there is no synagogue or mosque ever harmed by commies?
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>>2878673>In wait of a reward that's never comingEv&doe that's true for Communism as well
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>>2878667Well, I guess I ought to simply not express myself next time, given that God himself gave you the gift of acknowledging my (supposed) opinions before I even formulate them.
>>2878681>why build heaven on earth if life is just temporary and im going to get eternal free ice cream up there in the sky when i die? better follow the elite's orders because that's what the Clergy(TM) told me to do!>>2878693Straight up false premise.
>>2878695Unlike heaven, which is objectively never coming, paradise on Earth is actually possible through shared effort.
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>>2878706This is just cope doey, Earth will always be flawed and evil, you can't bring paradise to Earth, either believe in paradise or believe in supreme evil.
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>>2878706Again you are straw maning cant you engage intellctually honest, I do not believe in a god in the normal sense. I could now have said the same thing as you and said learn to read r-word. But that would be an ad hominem and we are trying to have an intellectual debate. Try to be more open minded next time.
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>>2878706>paradise on Earth is actually possibleretard
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>>2878706biting this bait but how is heaven objectively never coming, do you know what the word means?
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>>2878673That is not true
The point of religion is to create a better future
Religion (at least christianity) Denounces greed, it talks about collaboration and love to others
There is nothing in Christianity that "keeps the class subdued"
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>>2878606Additionally, I can see that you attack religion itself, but not the truth which it spreads.
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>>2878727There's no intellectual debate here. You completely made up and attributed a statement to me that I didn't make, I made a pun in response to your stupidity. Nothing more.
>>2878726>>2878730Paradise on Earth will be hard to realize but not impossible, unlike heavenly paradise which is a falsehood built on religious dogma. I'm sorry if a lifetime in the favelas made you develop a smaller brain incapable of understanding the difference between hard and impossible, as it is a result of capitalism abandoning the poor and degrading people to a lower caste just because of their material conditions.
>>2878732Simply, because heavenly paradise does not exist, and there is no reason for it to pop into existence one day for no reason.
>>2878739Maybe Early Christianity was like that. Ever since the adoption of it by the Roman Empire, it has become nothing but a tool to subdue the lower class.
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>>2878748Nigger do you not know the definition of paradise? In paradise there is no pain of any kind, in your socialist utopia (impossible btw) there will still be criminals, natural disasters, death, disease and so much more, it's the state of nature, and if you believe that there's nothing besides the state of nature you believe in supreme evil.
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>>2878748>it has become nothing but a tool to subdue the lower classNo it hasn't, It has always spread collaboration and the collaboration of classes.
Just look at Creator Omnium, The Catholic church was the first institution to Denounce and prohibit slavery
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>>2878759Actually there are
Pope John Paul II : The first miracle for John Paul's canonization was the healing of Sister Marie Pierre from Parkinson's disease through his intercession. The second miracle healed Floribeth Mora Diaz's brain injury after an aneurysm left her terminal.
Also:
https://www.miracolieucaristici.org/en/liste/list.htmlI know some of the miracles on that list are old and SNCA but you can find a lot of new ones
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>>2878760You are debating semantics. It's obvious that by "paradise on Earth" I meant a comfortable place for all humans to live in - an Utopia. Of course, total paradise is not possible, but we can reach close to it.
>>2878766>collaboration of classesNOT. REAL.
The only options are the destruction of one class, or perpetual class struggle. There is no in-between. Every other belief is misleading, on purpose or not.
>>2878776Kek. Just kek.
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>>2878759Additionally you can look up Father's pio story
Life Full of miracles
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>>2878748Oh please, saying there's no intellectual debate while engaging in a metaargument about the nature of the exchange is a textbook performative contradiction, in addition you were clearly trying to initiate a response with your provocative emotional statement on god and religion
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>>2878779Utopianism is as retarded as religion doebeit, how would you even go about reaching such a state knowing the needs of each human is subjective and can cause conflict retard?
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>>2878779>Kek. Just kek.You said that there is no possible way to verify if one religion i true or not
I Gave you one
>The only options are the destruction of one class, or perpetual class struggle. There is no in-between. Every other belief is misleading, on purpose or not.Instead of actually attacking my claim of the church promoting class collaboration you jUst say that Class collaboration is not possible, i never said that you can reach class collaboration, i said that the church promotes it.
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Fuck great lent, pull up with the great fent nigga. Talmbout some eat different or else the angels can't goon🥀🥀🥀
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>>2878748"it objectively doesn't exist because i say so"
next question, do you know what the word unprovable means?
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additionally:
>It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God
Mark 10:25
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>>2878785Okay, you're just baiting me. Bye.
>>2878791I guess we should give up on providing any kind of service or entertainment to our peoples because the needs of each human is subjective right? Just give up guys!
Look, the point is that maybe we will never be able to reach complete paradise, but we can get close to it.
>>2878792They're all obvious coincidences lol. I'm not even going to engage here.
>Instead of actually attacking my claim of the church promoting class collaboration you jUst say that Class collaboration is not possible, i never said that you can reach class collaboration, i said that the church promotes it.As I said, class collaboration is misleading, either on purpose or not, and in the case of the church it is on purpose, as it has historically served as a way to uphold the hierarchical social order.
>>2878805What if Ernest Khalimov said that?
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>>2878817lol i should have just realized you're a shitty baiter and in no way serious
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>>2878817>obvious coincidencesThey are not obvious coincidences by any mean
You have a confirmed story of a miraculous healing without a scientific explanation that happened after a specific event, and that theme reoccuring in a certain relligion.
>class collaboration is misleading, either on purpose or not, and in the case of the church it is on purpose, as it has historically served as a way to uphold the hierarchical social order.In this claim you Jump a long way to the front, You still fail to explain why uphlding that hierarchical order is unjust.
As i said earlier, Christianity is against greed, and thus is against giant capitalists, If you believe othervise then you are just wrong
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>>2878827This does not by any mean Invalidate the previous verse
Those verses talk about doing what you were told to do.
The message of those verses might be misleading, But they are talking about all humans, as a child should obey their parent, so should a worker obey his work-giver (the same happens under communism mind you) and so should a man Obey god and the same applies to all classes
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>>2878817>you're just baiting me. Byepeak evasive Reddit theatrics an ad hominem exit masquerading as insight
Your Church critiqe collapses under hasty generalization assuming ceturies of institutions act with a unified, malicious intent is historically naive. Claiming class collaboration is misleading on purpose is just rhetoric and does not equal evidence
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>>2878847>10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.>15 Then he said to them, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.">24 "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.>5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,>He who trusts in his riches will fall,But the righteous will flourish like foliage.
>Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
>The greedy bring ruin to their households, but the one who hates bribes will live.
It is a re-occuring theme, Not a verse taken out of context
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>>2878600sad tsmt
but i try
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>>2878870have a nice sleep or something
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>>2878870Geeeeg you cant even respond to my arguments. You are just using fallacies and masking it as left wing intellectualism. GTFO
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>>2878879>Be passive aggressive>Other guy is passive aggressive back>He doesn't want to debate you>"Keep taking lzzzz you lose all debates RAAAAAAAAAAAAGH" I hate debating all it does is make Christianity look worse
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uhhh communism is bad or something
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>>2878893Evendoe I only called him out on his fallacies and him assuming I am christian.
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>ay mayne did yu know that j*sus doesnt exist or however mi deganarycy is actualy justufied cuz le soyence
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>>2877358 (OP)nobody cares about holidays anymore. valentines day was 2 days ago nothing happened. today is presidents day nothing is happening.
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>>2878910unions are niggers seething cuz bossGODs made them work more
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>>2878893noone on /pol/ is here for any actual discussion. It only exists for baiting and shitposting. Do not bother engaging with them.
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>>2878857still wondering why it cant coexist with socialism
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>>2878935Becouse marx was a clittycel atheistcaca
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>>2878923Ah yes, because pointing out an assumption is suddenly a problem not the fact that he was dodging the actual issue, which is a textbook red herring.
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>>2878935marx was a kike foid beater
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>catholicucks
Nigger we invented lent
Anyway I'm fasting from saying the nigger word
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>>2878606You can't just say that the God (Yahweh) in Christianity will just magically grant you heaven if you listen to some zog-bot's seminar in a money grabbing scheme casually and maybe attend the Church once in a month.
But I have to agree with you that the modern Christianity is just marketing and fooling people into believing that they are saved, while they are not.
Why let the money grabber kikes and Romans exploit you, these people dont even try hiding their corruption at this point (see how they did a gay parade in vatican), before they didnt have to rewrite the Bible because the peasants weren't able to read it to begin with and now with everyone literate and almost translation possible had been made, you see tons of new versions pop up. People are rewriting the holy book in their own image.
And finally, Christianity as a whole isn't homogenous, and might get corrupt under the hood, even with everyone being 'Christian' you would need some a sort of a collective effort of wiping off sin from the face of the earth with God's own, true and uncorrupted teachings.
And if everyone was truly worthy of God's Kingdom, earth wouldn't be a crap hole to begin with.
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>>2878939marx was an obsessed kike
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>>2878951and he beat women like a slf
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>>2878939evan doe das true why cant the system itself become compatible. adam smith made le unwholesome capitalism to abolish religious caste systems.
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>>2878985why isnt his skin brown?
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>>2878974becouse socialists are all atheists and they gate-keep their shitty ideology from le hekin bigoted chudcels
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>>2878994nophonos doing that. there are literallyy christian communists.
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>>2879007oxymoron (emphasis on MORON)
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>>2879007Yeah but they are a tiny bity little minority
Plus Perfect communism (no money no state no property) fails at a bigger scale
I'd say that distributionism is a better idea
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>>2879027>distributionism is leftslopwhat
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>>2879031if youre left of centrism kys
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>>2879036>if you are hekin certian ieology you faken kysLoL
I'm not even on the left
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This thread could've been good if that bitch ass cat didn't try and fuck it up
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>>2879013trve, so trve and Its extra trve since you are slavic
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>>2878830don't make unsubstantiated claims then