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how a debate between average polcuck and vaush would go
>n-nigger horsefucker! p-pedo! nice porn folder fag!
<What was that? I think your microphone is cutting out.
>i-i said nigger! nigger nigger nigger!
<Let me just turn you up a bit so I can hear. Anyway, what did you want to "btfo" me with?
>despite 13 the niggers do 50 or something! and 41% as well!
<Uhhh… Yeah. You clearly don't understand basic sociology and your grasp on numbers is flimsy at best. Conviction rates are not only proportional to the rate at which crimes are being committed. Police are harsher on Black people due to systemic racism; courts and judges rule against Black people more frequently than white people due to racist biases; an arrest leading to a conviction does not mean the conviction and arrest had the same cause nor does it necessarily mean a crime was committed in the first place.
>w-word word word!
<Transgender suicide rates aren't 41% either. The transgender population is growing. If they had been 41% for as long as transgender people have suffered oppression and prejudice then transgender people would have gone extinct years ago by basic mathematics.
>n-nigger! nigger! nigger! *unplugs router and shuts off stream, hides under bed and watches downloaded loli anime mp4s on his phone*
<Ooookayyy… Awkward much?

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It's based and horse pilled.

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>n-nigger horsefucker! p-pedo! nice porn folder fag!
<What was that? I think your microphone is cutting out.
>i-i said nigger! nigger nigger nigger!
<Let me just turn you up a bit so I can hear. Anyway, what did you want to "btfo" me with?
>despite 13 the niggers do 50 or something! and 41% as well!
<Uhhh… Yeah. You clearly don't understand basic sociology and your grasp on numbers is flimsy at best. Conviction rates are not only proportional to the rate at which crimes are being committed. Police are harsher on Black people due to systemic racism; courts and judges rule against Black people more frequently than white people due to racist biases; an arrest leading to a conviction does not mean the conviction and arrest had the same cause nor does it necessarily mean a crime was committed in the first place.
>w-word word word!
<Transgender suicide rates aren't 41% either. The transgender population is growing. If they had been 41% for as long as transgender people have suffered oppression and prejudice then transgender people would have gone extinct years ago by basic mathematics.
>n-nigger! nigger! nigger! *unplugs router and shuts off stream, hides under bed and watches downloaded Adult hetero shit mp4s on his phone*
<Ooookayyy… Awkward much?

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>systematic racism

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>>2769885
This is the only proper response

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nophono debates

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>Conviction rates are not only proportional to the rate at which crimes are being committed
For murder specifically they very much are as homicide leaves a dead body which is linked to a culprit unless it's a suicide. And since we know crime, and especially violent crime is overwhelmingly intra-racial, there would have to be a lot of white on black murder that is undocumented which we don't see.
In a report conducted by Cooper and Smith (2011) (https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf) published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the black share of homicide victims has reflected the black share of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008. Over this time period, blacks constituted about 47% of homicide victims and about 53% of homicide offenders
(picrel 2)
More recent data shows similar patterns. In 2019, the latest year for the Crime in the United States publications, the FBI reports(https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls) that blacks constituted about 54% of homicide victims (7,484/13,927), which is only slightly greater than the black share of arrestees for murder in 2019
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>Police are harsher on Black people due to systemic racism
If police were systematically racist then one think they would do is probably kill blacks disproportionately. But this isn't what we find.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550618775108
This paper looked at Police killings and for the majority of estimates, white people are over-represented among such killings. In nearly all cases there was no evidence for significant anti-black bias.
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Another analysis (https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pandp.20191028) was done and found no over-representation of those killed compared to their arrest rate
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pandp.20191028
>Further, I fail to find evidence of taste-based racial bias in use of force conditional on arrest, leveraging variation across officer and civilian race.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1920184117 also conducted a county level analysis showing that minorities are less likely to by shot by police than are whites using a crime benchmark but (in the case of blacks, but not Hispanics) more likely using a population size benchmark.
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Experiments done with police simulations also find no anti-black bias.
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/results-experimental-trials-testing-participant-responses-white carried out such an experiment and found that police were 25 times more likely to shoot an unarmed person if they were white rather than black.
> In addition, where errors were made, participants across experiments were more likely to shoot unarmed White suspects than unarmed Black or Hispanic suspects, and were more likely to fail to shoot armed Black suspects than armed White or Hispanic suspects. In sum, this research found that participants displayed significant bias favoring Black suspects in their decisions to shoot
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Another one:
>We found that, despite clear evidence of implicit bias against Black suspects, officers were slower to shoot armed Black suspects than armed White suspects, and they were less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1745-9133.12187
>courts and judges rule against Black people more frequently than white people due to racist biases
This isn't true, we can look at the sentences handed by black and white judges and see that they are mostly neutral:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/0038-4941.00057
>Results showed that black and white judges weighted case and offender information in similar ways when making punishment decisions, although black judges were more likely to sentence both black and white offenders to prison.
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227730435_The_Multilevel_Context_of_Criminal_Sentencing_Integrating_Judge-_and_County-Level_Influences
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OR that black jurors are more racially biased in favor of theirs own
https://scholarworks.utep.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1016&context=christian_meissner
>The direction
of effects indicated that racial bias was more pronounced in the following conditions: for Black participants; when community members were participants; and in
published studies.
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>The moderator analysis demonstrated that racial
bias in juror verdict decisions was more prominent in Black participants than in
White participants, when a continuous measure of guilt was employed (as opposed
to a dichotomous "guilty" v. "not guilty" measure), when jury instructions were not
provided to jurors prior to a verdict decision, and in studies conducted or published
in the 1970s. Consistent with verdict decisions, racial bias in sentencing decisions
were also influenced by the race of the participant, such that Black participants
showed larger effects than White participants.
You can also look at racial bias of jurors outside of America like the the UK:
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Ams thay bias also lays on black's side
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>an arrest leading to a conviction does not mean the conviction and arrest had the same cause nor does it necessarily mean a crime was committed in the first place.
Arrest rates correlate 1 to 1 with victimization surveys, meaning reported crime perpetration. (picrel 4) As mentioned, crime is overwhelmingly intraracial so this is unlikely to be biased at all.
Comparison of racial disparities in NC victimization sruevy vs arrest data was also conducted by Beck (2021)(https://web.archive.org/web/20240511060440/https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf) using 2018 data. Consistent with prior results, the author again found that black overrepresentation in arrests for violent crime closely matched black overrepresentation in victim-reported violent crime offenders, particularly when the analysis was limited to victim reported incidents that were reported to the police.
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>An examination of offenders' characteristics, as reported by victims in the NCVS, provides information on racial and ethnic disparities beyond an arrestee and population-based comparison. Based on the 2018 NCVS and UCR, black people accounted for 29% of violent-crime offenders and 35% of violent-crime offenders in incidents reported to police, compared to 33% of all persons arrested for violent crimes.
Beck and Blumstein (2017)(https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10940-017-9357-6) analyzes the degree to which racial disparities in imprisonment can be explained by racial disparities in arrests. As part of this analysis, the authors also examined the degree to which racial disparities in arrests can be explained by racial disparities in criminal involvement. Criminal involvement by race was proxied using the NCVS. The authors' limited their analysis to rape, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault, as these are crimes in which the victims had contact with their offenders and could describe their offender's race.
Before presenting their own analysis, the authors summarized the findings of a previous analysis which compared racial disparities in arrests to racial disparities in victim-perceived race of offenders in the 80s. The previous analysis found that the black share of arrestees reflected the black share of offenders according to victimization survey respondents:
>Analysis of the NCVS data has been carried out by Tonry (1995). He examined the victims' identification of blacks as their assailant in robberies and aggravated assaults for the years 1980-1991. He found that victim data on perceived race of assailants closely paralleled the black arrests among arrestees. For example, the percentages among robbery assailants in 1980, 1985 and 1990 were 54.8% (nonwhite), 55.5% (black), and 51.5% (black). The percentages of blacks among persons arrested for robbery were 57.7, 61.7, and 61.2%. He did not include victim reports in offenses involving multiple offenders.
They find the same:
>We examined the issue using NCVS data on the violent crimes more broadly, including rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. We also included data on race of the assailants for incidents involving multiple offenders. Table 10 presents the percentage of black offenders as reported by victims in the 2010 NCVS and the percentage black among adult arrestees as reported in the UCR. For all four crime types, the ratio of the black percentage of arrestees and of reported offenders are very close to 1.0, ranging from .91 to 1.10. The aggregate ratio for violent crimes was 0.97. These results provide a strong indication of support for the use of arrest as a proxy indicator of criminal involvement in non-fatal violent crime.
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Baited onebeidore award

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baited a bulgarian shitskin award

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>>2770516
I did it to pracrice for my Vaush debate, mutty

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>>2770519
practice*

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>>2770519
you can just practice that by debating with an ai or something

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>>2770507
>>2770505
Thanks, bvlgARYAN, did you have that copypasta somewhere?

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>>2770524
all ai's are libshitted to the core

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>>2769872 (OP)
made me geg while boymodding award

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>muh systemic racism
how did systemic racism make tyrone deshawn shoot 3 cashiers with a unregisted fire arm while robbing a kfc

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>>2770526
Yesterday. I tried debating an AI on folkish socialism, but it just spouted random liberal nonsense, and when I pointed out contradictions it just used ad hominem, like your opinion is illegal o algo.

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>>2770548
Thanks for useful copypaste because I'm an SLF and don't want to research it all myself

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>>2770651
You have to correct a few typos and failquotes though. Also i put one image in the catbox link twice by mistake, it was supposed fo be this and also i didn't put this one in

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>how a debate between average polcuck and vaush would go
>>n-nigger horsefucker! p-pedo! nice porn folder fag!
><What was that? I think your microphone is cutting out.
>>i-i said nigger! nigger nigger nigger!
><Let me just turn you up a bit so I can hear. Anyway, what did you want to "btfo" me with?
>>despite 13 the niggers do 50 or something! and 41% as well!
><Uhhh… Yeah. You clearly don't understand basic sociology and your grasp on numbers is flimsy at best. Conviction rates are not only proportional to the rate at which crimes are being committed. Police are harsher on Black people due to systemic racism; courts and judges rule against Black people more frequently than white people due to racist biases; an arrest leading to a conviction does not mean the conviction and arrest had the same cause nor does it necessarily mean a crime was committed in the first place.
>>w-word word word!
><Transgender suicide rates aren't 41% either. The transgender population is growing. If they had been 41% for as long as transgender people have suffered oppression and prejudice then transgender people would have gone extinct years ago by basic mathematics.
>>n-nigger! nigger! nigger! *unplugs router and shuts off stream, hides under bed and watches downloaded loli anime mp4s on his phone*
><Ooookayyy… Awkward much?

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>>2770679
Eh I doubt anyone I'll argue with will go through all of that
Failquotes can be easily fixed
And typos are signs of unbQthered ESLaryans so they're OK

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>>2770505
>>2770507
Why dont you debate vaush with all of this then? It would be interesting to see

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>>2770783
Because people like Vaush are not looking to debate

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>>2770783
>>2770795
Does Vaush even debate anymore

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Is Vaush debating Delcatty?

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>>2770795
>>2770802
Xe says he doesnt do them anymore because xe believes its pointless or something
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dO8Zsi91dLU

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>>2770846
Generally speaking these people will only debate chudcels who can just scream nigger and not anyone actually interested or knowledge on the subject. Secondly live debates where people flash graphs and studies are retarded, because none has time to sit down and go through the actual study to prove that the conclusion is correct, that the methodology and starting assumptions are correct, that there are no sampling biases and that the samples are large, the limitations, models used etc.

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>>2770866
True. Sean Last tried do this and it was depressing. He still embarrassed a lot of them but he was also too good faith and challenged too many starting assumptions

https://odysee.com/@LastArchive:f/SeanLastVSStardust:1

https://odysee.com/@PoliticallyProvoked:6/SeanLastQuibbles:a

https://odysee.com/@PoliticallyProvoked:6/fanatiq:1

https://www.youtube.com/live/0Lf3Pl82VGw?si=K4Hyt1JPOka5fWSf

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>>2770898
Thay third one is hilarious though, he got that nigger to chimp out a few times

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>>2770898
The assumption part is maybe the most important. One very simple example are those random studies or graphs or statistics feminists would flash where it says like men commit 99% of SA/rape. Now for a retard that might be convincing why we need rampant feminism and comical laws for protecting women, but a non-retard would check how those crimes are categorized by gender and realize that in most countries it is basically impossible for a woman to get charged with SA, let alone rape.

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>>2770951
Just say they are sexist bigots

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>>2770951
Another one, in one of those debates i linked was the fact that blacks just lie more on (crime)surveys, it was concerning drug usage and how on paper the rate was the same or favoring whites but that was all from self reported surveys tracking usage. If you take into account how blacks lie m, the rate of incarceration for drug usage is proportional to the actual usage, and the fact blacks also buy drugs from strangers in more risky ways and use drugs nore openly etc. The bitch couldn't believe that and switched topics



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