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>IT'S DA MOVEMENTARIANS!!!!! DA MOVEMENTARIANS DON'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING!
>Also read this book written by a pedophile (who we've now disavowed and broke all ties with). He advocates for terrorism BUT not when the country is stable because then you get fedded, so we end up sitting on our asses all day. But he's also against movements because they "don't accomplish anything". So we sit on our asses all day and do nothing, again.

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you are leaking

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>Being anti-movementarian despite the founder of your ideology only being National Socialist because of a movementarian party

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You are unbothered.

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You are neutral

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> He advocates for terrorism BUT not when the country is stable because then you get fedded, so we end up sitting on our asses all day.
I didn't get that impression, but more of that you shouldn't do marches and shit like that because those do get you fedded (ie. unite the right rally). Although I do believe that he wrote siege under the delusion that the system would collapse as anyone not familiar with fabian socialism would assume looking at the current and past state of soyciety.

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nazis are retarded they follow the ideology of a meth addict

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>>2764055
leaky spic amerikike goycattle

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>>2764051
As long as you're not literally being a domestic terrorist organizations then you're allowed to make a party. Obviously feds are going to infiltrate your movement but that's when you simply tell people: "See something, say something". You can be a political movement WITHOUT doing crime and terrorism. If somebody tells you to commit a crime, you kick him from the organization

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You're retarded to defend movementarians
Thinking Mason being a retard/creep has anything to do with the teachings of SIEGE is actually midwit logic
>>So we sit on our asses all day and do nothing, again.
This is coming from the guy who posts negev porn on imageboards all day.

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>>2764060
You don't need to necessarily do anything, if they want you gone they will just plant illegal guns, drugs or 'P and get you arrested for that. Point being you won't win by playing by system's "rules" as Hitler could back in the 30s as the whole setting was different. Forget the US, try starting a even remotely right-wing party in the EU and see what happenes.

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>>2764060
How retarded are you that you think national socialists could rise to power through a political party?
It BARELY worked for the NSDAP, and you think it would be successful now?
The biggest NS movement/political party in the west right now, white australia, just got completely destroyed by a single law.

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>>2764051
Where did you buy siege in our shithole country dawg

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>>2764072
I read PDFs I find off obscure websites or that people send me

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>>2764071
The Weimar era was also an extremely dire situation. Not like the US. I'm not saying people should try taking power now but I think it'd at least be in the NS movement's best interest to begin really trying to bolster their number of supporters if geopolitical trends continue. One of the big signs a country is going to collapse is when they're no longer able to persecute enemies of the state. The US isn't in that situation yet so it'd be fatal trying to organize an established party. But the movement should at the very least begin campaigning more. Also petty terrorism (like advocated for by SIEGE) is counter-productive and inherently retarded at it's core

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>>2764085
Where does siege advocate petty terrorism when it talks against doing dumb shit like attacking random blacks or antifa just to fulfill your racial/ideological hatred quotas. And no, the situation in Weimar was considerably better than it is now, despite the weird gender ideology books or child brothels most Germans were still at large normal and rational people who were also roughed up by the war and the depression and they still had German heritage and culture. Nowadays most of the populace in the west is very homogonous culturally, hate their history, are borderline braindead because of social media and propaganda since early age, very uneducated and incompetent and suicidally retarded.

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>>2764025 (OP)
welcome back 2016
also, one of the biggest open NS movement had to disband over laws targeting it specifically, potentially to the point even aliases wont work like in the case of NA. So what other options do we realistically have?

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>>2764109
Wait until the economy collapses as a result of it's unsustainability and organize militias on the meantim.

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Tuff

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>>2764025 (OP)
They are all treatlers anyways so just send them all to gulags

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>>2764121
>accelerate or whatever

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Lol the only "accelerationism" atomwaffen did was smuggling weapons into Europe and making CP. How are these niggas spoken about in hush tonss as if they were some legends lololol even with all their military connections (Which, admittedly, was impressive) these niggas were just getting arrested left right and center. Total FBI victory. Waffencels lost.

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>>2764118
>Wait until the economy collapses
I keep hearing this for pretty much over 10 years and it just keeps getting worse with no end in sight. Sure, do paramilitary stuff, and many do but youre saying this as if its piss easy or it alone fixes anything.
I personally, several years ago got disillusioned with mason and out grew the whole "agios o cado, temple ov clitty 444 o algo" shit. But this whole thread is just pure leakage, im not blind to the larper trend and the dumb shit awd pulled, but since I was personally connected with this scene, I can overlook the shit slinging, and clearly see what was initially aimed for before it went south, and it was honest and far more sober than what you hear now. As opposed to many who rely on wikipedia tier factoids.

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>>2764025 (OP)
Siegekultur is just larp, also james mason was friends with anton la vey (((satanist)))

does siege actually advocate for terrorism? it looked pretty cucked from what i saw

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>>2764085
>The Weimar era was also an extremely dire situation.
we have it worse with the degeneracy/racial demographics
>The US isn't in that situation yet so it'd be fatal trying to organize an established party. But the movement should at the very least begin campaigning more.
right now the right wing needs actual movements to get behind, all we have are basically left-wing "conservative" movements. also making a actual party would help- (people might be afraid of voting though) but if people could see NS or actual nationalism as a option then maybe more people would come to our side rather than join the two major groups of lukewarm right or hard left

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>>2764139
Reclaim your blood sugar

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>>2764268
The economy or society will never be allowed to collapse naturally no matter how unnatural the system we live under is as this is a planned demolition.
>>2764289
The satanic larp is what makes people connected to this ideology retarded

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>>2764025 (OP)
SIEGE is a decent book tho, atomwaffen niggers give it a bad name.

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Marge what's war of the flea

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>>2764098
>The situation in the Weimar was considerably better
For the state itself, absolutely not. Obviously for the NS movement the situation was good. I'm referring to the stability of the state

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>>2764530
>Marge

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>>2764118
The economy isn't going to collapse. Obviously the economy is always going to be shit and it'll get shittier but there won't be this big "collapse" like everybody says. At least, it won't come until we have a big war with either Russia or China (and possibly Iran, depending on the scale) which causes a ton of veterans to come home, only to see any job opportunities they could've had were stolen by half-assing lazy migrants. Only then would things begin to worsen that MAYBE "militias" will play a role

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skibidikultur is gooder doe o algo

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>>2764549
hello, how was ur day

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>>2764559
If the US does get dragged into a big war then this would be an EXTREMELY PRIME moment for NS movements to begin propping themselves up. It would fill in the gap between the far-left lunatics protesting in the streets and the right-wingers who are also anti-war but don't want to be associated with the far-left middle-aged childless white women.

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>>2764578
It would also be a good moment to show the masses that there is more to politics than just "left vs right, red vs blue, good vs bad" etc.

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>>2764578
NS in the US can only succeed in a civil war, the non-revolutionary way is impossible due to the voting system.

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>>2764098
>gets BTFO'd
>doesnt respond

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>>2764536
At least Germans of that time didn't find their situation particularly lovely, today people find themselves in worse situations and think it is actually good. Most think that there is nothing wrong with rampant degeneracy and importation of biomass, if you complain about the economy you just get called a loser and told to pull yourself up the bootstraps

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>>2764598
It's because people are still comfortable. They're comfortably poor. That's why I believe an NS movement isn't possible in the current state, hence why I believe it should only be done IF a major war breaks out with the US at the forefront

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>>2764033
ev&doe Hitler had a vanguardist force along with his movementarian force

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>>2764594
The NS wouldn't succeed in a muh civil war if they have no numbers prior to it

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>>2764598
They live boxed in a virtual reality, if there was a power outage amongst the whole of the US for more than 100 days, I would guarantee you, that things would start changing. (I am not advocating for anything btw, this is simply my opinion)

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>>2764607
NS movements in the US get infiltrated the moment they gain some momentum. In addition the ADL literally tracks every move of the members and sends everything to the FBI (this was admitted, by the president, they have like 30 people working full time on this).

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>>2764604
OPSEC was also easier back in that era doe. I do believe that having a vanguardist "branch" (It shouldn't be directly associated with the political portion of your movement doe) is a good thing, as it allows you to push around your opponents (such as the Sturmabteilung did to the commies during the 20's and 30's)

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Larp is LARP

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>>2764609
I think they would remain braindead as their brains have been turned into mush, but regardless any real collapse won't be allowed to happen.

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>>2764615
Ofc, it's just not worth the risk.
I have a question, is National Socialist Movement fedded?

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>>2764620
No I wouldnt think so, these people are addicted to their liberal comfort zone, like any addict if they go cold turkey, they would literally chimp out.

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>>2764621
NSM is entirely a fed movement now. Every member is a fed at this point GEG. the founder and co-founder are both publicly known as informants

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>larping

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>>2764624
>being an informant and getting money from it evendoe you are literally the founder
infinite money glitch 1000IQ move

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>>2764624
Knew it. Well I don't know any major NS larp groups in the us, other than the prison run Aryan Brotherhood.

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>>2764620
I feel like the anti-ICE protests really showed that even the most worthless dregs of society (such as childless middle-aged women, for example.) are willing to stand in front of a loaded rifle if their comfort is disrupted

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>>2764616
Back then, politics wasn't that controlled by jews, so a mass movement could succeed.
anyways this is a good read on the topic

https://dn720004.ca.archive.org/0/items/mm_20211225/MM.pdf

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Is the Aryan Nations fedded? I don't think Joshua was an informant when he was in the group.

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>>2764635
130IQ suttermaxxing infinite money technique

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>>2764637
They only do that because they are allowed and encouraged by the government to do so. In a case of an actual, unplanned crisis the government would quickly squash any such groups without any mercy or hesitation.

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>>2764571
it's been okay

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>sitting on your ass all day and doing nothing

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>>2764644
Aryan Nations wasn't fedded as an organization but all it's members were individually fedded outside of the group

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>>2764652
Meaning they had feds knock on their door years later and frame them for some bullshit

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>>2764652
Can we save the Aryan Nations?

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>>2764654
Not really worth trying to save. They fell into obscurity because they don't campaign much.

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>>2764648
nigga that's good squirrel

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>>2764657
What about Blood and Honor?

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>>2764661
>>2764654
fed honeypots

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>>2764661
Deadest of all niggerbabies to have ever died

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>starting a black nazi movement to expose the real TRUTH that hitler was a black man

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>>2764665
Combat 18?

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>>2764662
B&H and Combat 18 weren't honeypots. But like the Aryan Nations their members got fedded on the off-time separate from the organizations

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>>2764668
Nga just naming random shit at this point

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With the two party system, there is little to no room for a third party to gain any amount of control within the mainstream political sphere, optics cooking for a supposed bigger support base and electorate, weird big tent alliances with moderates, and constant compromising. And Movementarianism is not the same as the movements of the interwar period, that's not what Movementarianism is. Movementarianism and especially American Movementarianism is the belief of a political solution or a peaceful solution via a mass movement, that you can win via cucking your beliefs and sneaking into the system. American Movementarianism is the worse because they combine the Liberal ideas with Fascism or atleast attempt to, American Movementarians are basically slightly more radical Conservatives. Stuff like Hitler's forces were not Movementarians, they all used violence especially in the streets to gain their goals and they never compromised their core beliefs

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>>2764668
It's not worth trying to revive old movements. It's like clinging on to a dead body.

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>>2764671
Those who know

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Well what larp groups that are heckin natzee can we even revive.

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>>2764672
Fair argument

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>>2764678
Social Nationalists NEET Party of Israel

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>>2764613
>Calling Anders Behring Breivik a LARPer as if he didn't actually do the things he did

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>>2764678
THE SHD might have a chance.

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>>2764678
It's more logistically efficient to create something new rather than trying to drag up these old parties. They're often lead by people who are long past their glory days in life. Humanity has generations and so do organizations

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>>2764680
thanks man

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>>2764686
If you were a group leader, what would you name your party.

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>>2764689
Wholesome 'o award

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>>2764669
doubtful
>>2764672
>water is wet o algo

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>>2764690
funny niggers

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>>2764690
National Socialist American Workers' Party (surprisingly, this is NOT a taken party name as of 2026)

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>>2764690
Name it something like "Party of Freedom" but it's actual policies are making 1984 a reality

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>>2764695
Yeah, relatively close to ANP.
Anyways have fun.

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>>2764690
SHD shorthand for social-hitlerist democrats

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>>2764696
>"Party of Equality, Equity, and Freedom"
>Enact the most horrific massacre in the history of mankind

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A national socialist movement could only gain even a little traction if it started very local, like focusing on winning on the state level

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>>2764702
TSMT, this is a very big focus point of the SHD

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>>2764700
French Revolution moment

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>winning an NS election in Minnesota.

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>Total Aryan Victory by 2060

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>>2764700
When you think about it every revolution was like that

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>starting a Orthodox theocracy and enacting the Mosaic law in Minnesota

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>winning as a national socialist and marrying a leftist liberal wife

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>>2764732
Women don't actually care about politics they just want to stay out of trouble. If your party has total power then all the women will be good goys and listen to your policies

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>>2764728
>>2764710
Monarchism is the future of Minnesota

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>>2764737
It would be like Ying and yang doebeit

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>>2764737
>Starting and winning an incel revolution, implementing Incel Socialism (INCSOC) and nationalizing women

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>>2764737
Just keep their maternal instinct under control and make sure it's directed toward their own children rather than random brown criminals

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>>2764738
Ethiopian sultanate

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>>2764751
Yeah. A big sign your society is failing is when there's a large abundance of childless middle-aged women. If a woman doesn't have children by the time she's 30 then it's better to drown them in a cage, they'll only be a public nuisance going forward (no offense intended to any 'teens who may have mothers that bared them past the age of 29)

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>Starting and winning an incel revolution, implementing Incel Socialism (INCSOC) and nationalizing women

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>>2764751
saying this shit as if men don't have a paternal instinct

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I'm feeling brappy

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>>2764774
For legal reasons, "drown them in a cage" is a figure of speech, and is not to be taken literally.

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>>2764780
Is there a "cat gentleman" stereotype or a "cat lady" stereotype.

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>>2764784
I think such women or barren women if they exist in small numbers could have their maternal instincts fulfilled by being put to work in orphanages.

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>>2764774
What about monastics though
>>2764780
But it's not the same. Women will feel maternal instincts over other children (or in this case, not children at all) because motherly care is communal. Paternal care is more individual, so it largely stays within ones own family.

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>>2764788
If it takes somebody that long to find faith then I'm gravely concerned for their wellbeing

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>>2764800
If someone was a monastic by the time they were 18 then they wouldnt have children by the time they are thirty

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>>2764774
I wonder what's the equivalent of this for men

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>>2764809
Maybe we can avoid Monastic practices and have the churches help people on their spiritual journey

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>>2764780
Paternal instinct is less hysterical

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>>2764820
When there's a large abundance of men who are anti-work, or are trying to BECOME a childless middle-aged woman

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>>2764824
These people can also be (Figuratively, not literally) crucified on algiz runes and burned (this is a figure of speech doe)

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>>2764821
Very few lead monastic lifestyles thougher

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>>2764821
Monastics practices were practically necessary in the past due to people having massive families. Monasteries were also main producers of luxury goods (wines, cheeses, candles, books etc). If somehow the birth went up, they would be very useful and necessary to be implemented again on a large scale, just more oriented towards more modern products beyond their important spiritual importance.

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>>2764832
and they also produce some of the greatest people as well. I sometimes go to a monastery church instead of the regular one and the guys there are some of the coolest most interesting people I have met.

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>>2764832
Ah my mistake. I thought he just meant people doing it on their own. If they're contributing to families then it's alright

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>>2764831
Yeah kind of, there's a lot of people who are anti-work but aren't necessarily "soyboys"

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>>2764853
We have those too, they're called bums and they're 50% of the young adult population, sad!

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Their favorite pastime is robbing people and harassing 14 year old school girls

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>>2764844
Well in Orthodoxy, desert fathers (one monk living alone in woods in a cave) do exist, but they are quite rare. Most monasteries are administered by a bishop and are attached to a city. And you can't just go off on your own as you basically need to be ordained as a monk by a bishop and attached to a monestary.

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>>2764821
A large and healthy monastic sect is integral for a healthy Church, which is integral for a healthy society.

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>>2764859
that's aryan workcuck!

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>>2764867
High T activities

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>>2764878
Being a worthless piece of shit is high T because andrew tate told me or something

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>>2764674
You say this while being NS. NS will never be politically viable outside of the potato suka blyat belt of the second world since when the normal well adjusted member of society hears the word nazi it conjures up a flurry of images of mass graves, bombed out cities, a man angrily screaming in a foreign language, and how their great-grand daddy Wyatt Mann killed 20 Germans with his bare hands at Hurtegen. NS will never gain traction outside of image boards and small bands of mentally ill drug addicts. It's the same reason why communists even in traditional strongholds like France, the Ruhr, or shitaly are polling in single digits in elections. Communists have to deal with the the question of why every iteration of their movement barring maybe Vietnam or Cuba has ended in abysmal failure with the collateral being millions dead. NS is also weighed down by degenerates like 09a, adamwaffles, or James 'marriagable age' Mason, each acting as an ideological albatross around the neck. The next successful right wing movement that is apparent now is something like spic Fuentes' AF(god help us) or identitarianism, but most likely the next movement will be a dark horse that a dejected loner college student is writing the manifesto to in his dorm.
>>2764722
Quaking in my jackboots btw

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>>2764874
I was merely referring to being a NEETbvll

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>mass graves, bombed out cities, a man angrily screaming in a foreign language

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>>2764884
libertarianism is the only ideology which would actually benefit wypipol and save the west o algo, but retards would rather live in the USSR as long as it is based and autistically racist

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>>2764920
ev&doe libertarian ism supports ultra-individualism, which would only damage the white community further + it would also encourage degeneracy and slave labor for white people.

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>>2764920
>libertarianism is the only ideology which would actually benefit wypipol
>no borders because thats le fashism
>no cops because thats le fashism
another intellectual take from the slums of sao paulo

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>>2764920
Honestly what the west needs is a meritocratic enlightened managed semi-democratic system (to keep the retarded democratic supporters at bay through pretending we're already a democracy)

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>>2764943
preventing schlomo shekelstein from importing 10 mil indians is against the free market or something

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What should yuhrocux do doey? Here (((they))) almost raped AfD(zionist civnats btw) so any ethnonationalist party gaining serious traction will get 'aped too

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Another thing the NS movement could really do to help itself is stop letting Lolbertardians hang around their circles GEG

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That's just 95% of all clittycels in general

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>>2764948
>no dude you don't understand its le fashism so I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DATE CHILDREN

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>>2764943
commiebrain. The collectivist, dysfunctional slop you envision isn't the same as a legitimate organic community, which is what you likely want to achieve. Libertarianism doesn't oppose community or wyculture, it has no social values, it only opposes coercion, which works great for communities because they're the strongest when voluntary (people choose to participate), just look at churches and fraternal organizations. It's the collectivist ideologies such as Marxism or NS that erode trust and bring about corruption, because it outsources individual responsibility to a bureaucratic elite. As for the degenerate argument (or any variation of it, like calling it jooish o algo) is retarded because, as previously stated, it's a political philosophy, not a moral doctrine. If your values are real and healthy, they should overcome degenerate hedonists, this isn't the case nowadays because the state props the latter up, usually directly. The slave labour point is just pure ignorance
>>2764943
doesn't understand Libertarianism award >>2764943
>>2764946
commiebrain x2

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>>2764954
age of consent is government tyranny or however children's NAP is violated

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>>2764953
Die in your sleep nigger.

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>>2764952
The main thing it needs to do is get rid of the looney people and idealists and not engage in retarded debates with insane bad-faith people.

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Both are retarded albeit siegefags is worse. Larping as a 1930s german national socialist in the US, UK or Australia in the 2020s is retarded and won't achieve anything.

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>>2764950
Sao Paulo is still too white to be lolbert territory
>>2764943
That's the point. If you go "I'm a based sigma nazi" you're going to be arrested and even the chuddiest of your friends and family will disown you.

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>>2764955
>just look at churches
Churches necessarily lose out in a libertarian, libertine society. The state needs to provide a society that is conducive to a community, i.e. giving the Church more power, encouraging localist economy, etc. That doesn't mean the state itself created the community.

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>it has no social values, it only opposes coercion, which works great for communities because they're the strongest when voluntary (people choose to participate), just look at churches and fraternal organizations.

There's a difference in joining a community of people who are trying to survive and joining a religious group/ college group

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>>2764955
>it has no social values
thats the point. thats what makes it bad

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>>2764920
Youre brazillian. Also the USSR but based, Christpilled and autistically racist would be aryan heaven.

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>it's a political philosophy, not a moral doctrine

Most politics are based on morals

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>>2764968
1% darkie is sehr icky

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>>2764970
Church and state ought to be working and unison and be equal in power or close to that as was the model in a lot of countries in the early to late medieval period. Two heads of the eagle. After all state is an ordained minister of God. It's function is the police, military, economy and the Church's is faith, education, healthcare, care for the poor etc.

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>>2764051
Its not going to collapse white people are just going to die out. The jews and their golems will keep the system alive forever.

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>>2764952
we need to make people get in line with our ideas rather than pander to anyone. thats why the left wins, because they are mindless bugmen

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>it has no social values

most communities are based off of social values, without social values shit just falls apart

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>>2764072
>what is a PDF
>>2764085
In weimar germany they were poor and therefore could be influenced by anyone promising them prosperity. Now, most white people are already well off, happy eating their goyslop and obeying the propaganda

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>totalitarian state with no social values

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>>2764955
Individual self-association doesn't work because people aren't inherently rational coercion is necessary to bring out groups who are detrimental to a vision of a proper society to a stop. Besides how is it communist to propose an authoritarian system? It isn't like I said we need to seize the means of production o algo.

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>>2765003
I've already touched on this topic ITT

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>>2765008
Literally this. Libertarians literally have zero foresight with their cult-like ideology. They legitimately believe that the moment their system gets adopted then everybody will "play by the rules" when this hasn't been the case since the dawn of time. The reason nations exist to begin with is because of authority. If you get rid of authority you get rid of the nation itself, and people will work to fulfill that missing gap of authority themselves.

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And don't even get me started on their Utopian economic policy. "If we stopped preventing oligarchs then no oligarchs will happen!"

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>>2765003
>the government ensuring the masses can have financial security and can have a home to raise their children is bad.
And you wonder why you people don't find your ideology appealing
>no it's their fault I can't believe doing anything wrong a drug addict with daddy issues said this was based over half a century ago.

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>>2764025 (OP)
I find the idea of taking over the entire US a wishful fantasy.
Maybe small gated communities or a secessionist state like the Northwest American republic could be more feasible. But movementarians do jackshit doe

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>>2765037
>And you wonder why you people don't find your ideology appealing

no one wonders that, they accept why no one does. the point is that they are controlled through their security

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>>2765037
>the government ensuring the masses can have financial security and can have a home to raise their children is bad.
what was hitlers policy on new marriages to get them to have children again? give them less taxes/support? no, he was a commie or something

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>>2765037
are u drunk?

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>>2765037
>b-b-b-but the government provides for me! I don't care that my people are being killed left and right and that we are slowly but surely being suppressed I get to have a home! (ev&doe the market sucks dick)

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>being well off, happy eating your goyslop and obeying the propaganda

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Good luck starting a national socialist movement and succeding lmao fucking retard is just fantasizing of becoming the next hitler

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bwcslvt above

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>>2765123
>Good luck starting a national socialist movement and succeding lmao fucking retard is just fantasizing of becoming the next hitler
thank you kind anon

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>fantasizing about becoming the next hitler

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>>2765062
>>2765060
>>2765052
>>2765047
Do you retards not recognize the whole point of a state is to provide for the wellbeing and security of nation's volk. If the state can allow the means or provide the means for the lower classes to own property and have a stable enough existentence to have families and a good pension with PTO then they aren't having bread and circuses and crushing trvthpilled dissenters. That government is acting according to its mandate and quelling bad actors. The EU is an example of this NOT happening as the state often acts as an obstruction to the fulfillment of the volks needs(regulations, migrants, trade agreements etc).

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>>2765145
idc about any of that, it's just there was a lot grammar mistakes and was wondering if u were drunk when u typed it out

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>>2765145
>Do you retards not recognize the whole point of a state is to provide for the wellbeing and security of nation's volk.
yes but we want them white first. i completely want prosperity for my people. but it has to be MY people

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>>2765037
You dumb nigger no western state wants whites to have children they want white extinction.

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>>2765145
okay so why are we being treated like shit then,do you not care for your own people? are you ok with millions of migrants, pajeets, and niggers invading your homeland? are you okay with the government just letting anyone in? are you okay with the market crashing? A race is equal to a nation's population, because multi-culturalism has been shown now to work time and time again, so the point is that people aren't awakening to NS because they are being pampered to by the government. yes I do understand a government's goal is to provide for it's people, but the government in its current form has failed to provide for its population

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>>2765162
This is actually really true. In the past few months I have "entered" some intellectual circles, where these post-marxist theories are thought out to their logical conclusion which is white extinction.

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>That government is acting according to its mandate and quelling bad actors.
the problem with this mind-set is that you are assuming that the mandate itself is good and that the bad actors are bad

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>>2765166
Its not even the migrants that are the problem. The migrants are just a consequence of population collapse by giving women rights.

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>>2765171
Keir Starmer is part of these i think.

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>because multi-culturalism has been shown now to work time and time again,

I meant multi-culturalism has been shown not to work

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>>2765185
I am mainly talking about university think-tanks, the kind of people you meet there have very inverted morals to say the least. In addition it is really scary how these people use the trust of society in large in these old prestigious institution to create a fake mandate for progressive cultural marxism.

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>>2765177
Nigguh what are you talking about

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>>2765193
immigration is the result of women not having enough white children

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>>2765194
No buddy. It would happen regardless.

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>>2765192
Keir starmer thinks like this.
>>2765193
It's the truth. Shitskins are here because whites arent breeding fast enough to sustain their countries. To deport the shitskins you need an increasing white population that can sustain the country. To get an increasing white population you need to take away women's rights.

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>>2765194
that doesn't have to do anything with women rights doe? (at least those rights that make them equal in law, Abortion is not one of those laws) In socialist countries people had kids and yet women had the same rights as men.
The same goes for a lot of interwar period countries

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>>2765204
You mean Keir Starmer thinks like me or like these pseudo intellectuals.

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>>2765166
Because the current state is not the Hobbesian Leviatian but is a Machiavellian construct. The infographic that the Bosni-ack posted claimed that governments controls people by tending to their needs, when that is the mandate of governance that the state is supposed to operate under for the population's betterment, you know, the whole "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" thing. If a state does better than bread and circuses than it is operating how it was meant to.

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>>2765206
Opinion on one million jeets soon arriving at the jewish homelands (poland) due to EUniggers?

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>>2765204
Take away which rights?
Abortion? That is not a right that is an immoral privelage

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>>2765213
Poland rejected the migration laws so it won't be happenng any time soon

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>>2765207
He is one of the pseudointellectuals, fabian society i think.
>>2765206
Their right to choose who they marry and have kids with.

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>>2765218
Sadly the governemnt will get replaced soon. If you are right-wing and in the Eu, the Eu will try to influence the election in favor of pro-globohomo- EUniggers.

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>banning abortions because it's immoral and this is an actual good take that i had to giga quote with

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>>2765220
Why should I care about Keir Starmer, he is just a cog in the machine, look at who is operating it.

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>>2765210
When the government is ZOG that wants to genocide white people, its bad. When the government is WOG and wants white people to prosper, it's good. I hope that explains it for your retarded nigger mutt ass.

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>>2765220
>Their right to choose who they marry and have kids with.
Kek, so you want to make life a niggerhell for half of the population of your nation and expect that to work?
Kek, Look at socialist countries, look at countries during the interwar era, Lot of kids but still Women and men equal in law

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>>2765210
>Because the current state is not the Hobbesian Leviatian but is a Machiavellian construct

That's why they advocate for the destruction of it

>when that is the mandate of governance that the state is supposed to operate under for the population's betterment


It is giving them basic needs (and degenerate luxuries) while pushing a libshit agenda. and slowly oppressing white people

>If a state does better than bread and circuses than it is operating how it was meant to.


A state is meant to provide for its people (ie, for America, the white race)

>when that is the mandate of governance that the state is supposed to operate under for the population's betterment


It

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>>2765210
>words words words
I still want a white ethnostate in my ideal that kills every opposition.

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>>2765241
I also want this.

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>>2765241
White is maybe to broad, I am talking about specific groups.

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>>2765214
Yes, abortion. Also, to choose who they get married to, to choose whether to have children, to vote. To abuse their husbands psychologically.
>>2765238
The culture in those countries was still arranged marriage chosen by the parents or relatives of the woman. Not allowing them to stay single. Also wtf are women going to do?

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>>2765243
Didnt your country have EU funded protest against your president?

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>>2765250
>anti-immigration protests
>EU funded
nigger what?

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>>2765177
Population collapse is genuinely a good thing doe. We are currently, even in the west, operating well above our environment's carrying capacity. That leads to a labour market that is flooded, land scarcity, resource shortages, and social malaises like Bolshevism, feminism, or anarchism. If we stayed below replacement rates and cut off outside immigration until we reached medieval sized populations we would have nigh post scarcity conditions as there would be less mouths to feed and less cities for squalour to infest.

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>>2765256
No there were protest against the president of serbia, because he is a russian shill. The whole kabbal was funded by the EU.

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>>2765256
Learn to read

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>>2765250
Litteraly every kike is calling our president "le heckin fash" even doe our government is ZOGGED out. I hate the antifa kikes that also infiltrate these protest.

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>>2765269
Serbian parties competing in who is the most zogged out.

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>>2765246
>To abuse their husbands psychologically.
Kek, this is not a right.
>The culture in those countries was still arranged marriage chosen by the parents or relatives of the woman. Not allowing them to stay single.
KEKEKEKEKEK You actually know nothing do you?
There was no arranged marriages by then, if you believe so then you are retarded
<Preddit Space
The reason why people don't have kids is becouse of todays culture, The sexual revolution being one of the reasons, The Invention of the internet and The spread of harmfull ideologies being another one

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>>2765276
>The reason why people don't have kids is becouse of todays culture, The sexual revolution being one of the reasons, The Invention of the internet and The spread of harmfull ideologies being another one

that's why he's taking away their rights doe

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I think facism would be far more widespread if it targeted degenerates and parasites of society, like instead of targeting jews and niggers specifically, you target pedophiles and jobless hood rats who just so happen to be jews and niggers. Good thing about this is you kill all the retards with their retard genes and you get loads of support because it won't be outright nazism which is far too taboo to ever take off again

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>>2765289
This is actually another reason why authoritarianism is only popular in certain stages of a civilization. During moments of intense crisis, the scum of society which normally remains in the shadows gets washed to the surface.

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>>2765284
Or you could just change the culture which would be incredibly simple thanks to censorship LoL

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>>2765301
>Or you could just change the culture which would be incredibly simple thanks to censorship LoL
good luck with that

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I've seen some fags at the protest wearing anti swastika pins and sporting some kike faggotry pins on their bags.

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>>2765289
The only reason the Nazis targeted Jews after they seized power was because they were the degenerate parasites of society. The Jews ran child brothels and prostitution during the Weimar era. They were also the ones pushing for homosexuality and early transgenderism.

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>The only reason the Nazis targeted Jews after they seized power was because they were the degenerate parasites of society. The Jews ran child brothels and prostitution during the Weimar era. They were also the ones pushing for homosexuality and early transgenderism.

sounds familiar…

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>>2765307
go to a protest next time and wear tshirt in picrel
>

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>>2765303
>ban reddit
>ban twitter
>ban 4cuck
>ban incel forums
>Supervise jewtube
>ban porn
I think it's worth a try

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>>2765322
Keir SStarmer is already doing this doe?

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>>2765317
Everyberg. Singlestein. Timeowitz…

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>>2765318
Does the shirt ship to Serbia?

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>>2765318
geg I should go to an anti-ICE protest dressed like this

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>>2765330
I dont know

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>>2765335
Do it, would be really gemmy. You might actually get in the news with it.

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>>2765327
Wait till you find out who was behind the civil rights movement.

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>>2765322
>ban everything i dont like
Just influence the younger generation, teach them the correct moral values at school and prevent the degenerates from reaching them by banning the internet for them and restricting things like pride parades. You can't just change the adult population's views by censoring, they will revolt.

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>>2765335
Go there and accelerate the collapSSe or something

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>>2765344
Even doe I already know
>INB4 an Academic Socialist comes in and says "well actually the CIA hated Martin Lucifer Coon, so actually you're wrong!

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>ban everything i dont like

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>>2765348
I call this an insurrection against the native population they should have all been hanged on the lawn in front of the white house.

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>>2765347
The proper way to accelerate in the modern day is to go to an ANTIFA protest dressed like one of them and then pull out and wave a nazi flag before running away. The confusion and infighting you could generate from doing such an act would be hilarious and also legitimately useful

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>>2765276
The main reason people don't have children is because they don't have the time nor resources to have children, even your typical roastie whore will have her biological clock go off at some point. Feminism is arguably still to blame as it made dual income households normal and flooded the labour market meaning companies could, did, and still hold wages below inflation growth as they no longer have to worry about workers striking because they have a wife that isn't drawing a paycheck and it's harder for labourers to balk at poor wages and go to a more competitive employer since there are too many workers and not enough workplaces.

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>>2765276
Dumbass polack it wasnt legally enforced but foids were shunned for staying single.

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>>2765377
Even in places with massive benefits for having kids its still a below 1.5 fertillity rate

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>>2765358
trve. too bad the O9A and siege fags are doing this to the right though

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>>2765358
No you just have to scream some controversial opinions inside the leftists chambers, like Stalin was fascist and Trotsky won or Communism lost and Anarchism won.

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>>2765358
i live in california (liberal tranny shithole) and i'm gonna consider doing this geg

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>>2765388
AWD and O9A literally just do bullshit nonesense at the expense of the integrity of the entire NS movement because they're too stupid to stop and think "hey maybe petty crime, telling everyone about my terrorist plans, possessing CP for literally no reason whatsoever, and advocating for mass-murderers ISN'T a good way to run an ideology!"

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>>2765386
If they are below replacement levels then eventually the supply of workers will meet demand. Unless someone would do something retarded like importing millions of mentally unbalanced shitskins, like (you)

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>>2765377
>dual income households normal
It's Not that bad actually, i went to a catholic school and there wasn't a single person who didn't have any siblings And yet they all were from dual income households
>>2765381
Ok, LoL, Proves my point, You don't have to take away anybodys rights to get positive fertility rates, all you need to do is change the culture

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>>2765409
I've falseflagged on leftypol as a "leftist" a couple times while intentionally making controversial statements that were bound to stir up infighting (such as calling the anti-ICE protests a "bourgeois psyop to pacify revolutionaries", or speaking against the anarchist Kurdish state). That was more for the shits and giggles though, i've generated well over 300 replies doing it doe geg

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>>2765414
They aren't NS as you can imagine, they only use the imagery to be edgy and your average golem can't tell the difference.

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>>2765438
This. Literally none of them have a plan beyond leaderless terrorism.

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>>2765427
There was this one far right german intellectual, who after getting caught up with the Feds said that the far right should just infiltrate the greens, since the AFD is a boomer party. He then deleted all his videos apologized sincerely for his anti-semitism in the past and that he complimented Hitler and was allowed into the green party.

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>>2765447
>Publicly state that the far-right should infiltrate the greens
>"apologize" for your antisemitism
>get accepted into the greens

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>>2765447
>Publicly state that the far-right should infiltrate the greens
>"apologize" for your antisemitism
>get accepted into the greens

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>>2765456
Well the idea was that the greens hate russia and it might be possible to convince them that after defeating the Russians in a war they could do Hitlers Lebensraum project.

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>>2765443
It's interesting to compare the imagery, as actual NS posters are always light and promote virtues or show families or workers, while O9A and similar are always dark and promote nothing except nihilism

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>>2765472
>joker
ts not tuff lil bro πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ’€πŸ’€

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>>2765471
Ah I forgot to metnion he went on some afd politicians podcast, tlaked like 4 hours about race realism and then added that the only thing he didnt like about Hitler was his veganism. The host of the podcast was then too afraid to release the podcast but was pressured into doing it.

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>>2765485
Can you name him please?

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>>2765485
After 4 weeks he made an apology about the podcast. But not to ethnic minorites, no to Hitler, he apologized to Hitler personally about the veganism critic and became a vegan himself.

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>>2765486
Wait one moment.

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>>2765472
I know that they've explicitly stated they try to be as edgy as humanly possible because they "want to be the villains" in the sense that they want to be the "cool bad guys" as a way of trying to recruit more. The issue with this reasoning though is that this ONLY appeals to edgy teenagers. NSDAP posters were designed for the WORKING CLASS (AKA MOST OF THE NATION'S POPULATION). It really puzzles me how they could've possible been THIS stupid when coming up with their model.

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>>2765486
Erik Ahrens, he has a yt channel now, all his old videos are deleted and he just talks about basic stuff that the greens promote. Although in german online news you can still read articles about his past.

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>>2765472
Niggers make those posters just to do nothing except grooming minors into cutting themselves in their 'cord

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>>2765494
But he is an actual schizo dont take him too seriously

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>>2765494
>Erik Ahrens
Found several podcasts, can you link the exact episode you were talking about?

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>>2765507
One sec.

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>>2765516
Thanks, might get back to finally learn german again after neglecting it for like five years.

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>>2765522
It is in my opinion not that interesting, he just drops some few facts about race and the host constantly tries to get him to talk about something else. It almost feels like an elaborate skit.

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>>2765426
Dumbass polack it would still be better if we took them away.
>>2765258
Actually that will just lead to whites being defeated by jeets, arabs or chinks, and genocided.

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>>2765489
>uh working class? that's like communism or something kike

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>>2764920
>USSR as long as it is based and autistically racist
Sounds awesome.

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>>2765574
They actually say this. The right has COMPLETELY abandoned the responsibility of the working class. Literally every worker's union is leftist at it's core. It's a tragedy that should be reversed immediately

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>>2765584
That will never happen as long as people nowadays care too much about labels rather than ideas behind those labels and certain ideas are too connected to a certain label creating a feedback loop. Case in point, when you hear someone saying "working class" you immediately get the image of a communist in your mind or "white race" and you get an image of a nazi, despite these two labels having nothing to do with these two groups and are/have been used by other groups and them just being groupings of people based on wealth category and genetics.

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>>2765574
AWD don't talk like conservatives, they would be more willing to ally with communists than reactionaries due to the fact that are also anti-capitalists. National Socialist Liberation Front, the proto-Atomwaffen group started by Joseph Tommasi, was modeled off of militant new left groups and was strictly anti-(((capitalist))).

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>>2765621
Sure, but those groups have like 30 people, I'm more off talking about the general populace

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>>2765621
Tommasi, alongside Mason ofc, was extremely influential for AWD

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>>2765627
retard

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>>2765598
That's why the NS movement needs to start structuring itself around the working class and not the "edgy bad guys" like they currently do. Most people simply don't want to be a suicidal terrorist throwing his life away in a mass-shooting to "save the white race" (shocking, isn't it?). They need to actually appeal to White Workers. In other words, they need to be NATIONAL SOCIALISTS. They need to show that they are for the NATION (the nation being the White man) and are SOCIALIST (socialist being for workers, and for improved living standards). The current National Socialism we see around the world for the most part is NOT National Socialism (no true scotsman or however I avoid people's arguments). It is Racially-motivated terrorism that uses Nazi imagery. Most of these people couldn't care less about giving white men jobs or a stable home or a source of income. That's the issue that plagues the NS movement.

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>>2765414
AWD doesnt exist anymore

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>>2765646
I know. AWD hasn't existed since 2020 and their successor organization (I forgot it's name, it was such a nothingburger GEG) was disbanded in 2023. That doesn't mean their ideology doesn't still have an impact doe

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>>2765641
All propaganda has its time and place, and one should not be completely opposed to any form of it as long as it is truthful and it works. I will say though that insisting on a specific form of propaganda for all situations can be damaging to one's appearance and branding;

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Its not their job to be prioritizing targeting normies, it's just not it. People are getting radicalized by the system itself because of how things are going, and those who even have a chance of understanding their >>2765472
worldview will likely be interested by more NS-targeted pieces of propaganda.

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>>2765658
You can appeal to both the edgy militant teenagers and the working class men at the same time. That's why the NSDAP had the Sturmabteilung. The party itself was for the Working Class Germans. The SA, however, appealed more to the young men who were looking to get out and beat people up

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>>2765670
>>2765472
forgot to reply

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>>2765649
its because their successor was ran by that stutter retard and he completely drove it to the ground

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>>2765670
I do agree that a large part of the public is influenced by the stability of the state itself, which is why I don't think people should go out trying to form movements that are bound to get fedded into oblivion just yet. In the meantime though, I do think the NS movement needs to seriously start distancing themselves from siegekultur and the "badass bad guys" trope.

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>>2765685
Joshua Sutter was an FBI informant since the very day he became associated with the movement. All the documents are public info now. Last I heard he was seen bar hopping with his buddies, he's probably a millionaire by now with how much money he made fedding people geg

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>>2764025 (OP)
>Why is Siegekultur so retarded?
Because they say they they can accelerate things but don't see exactly where, because they say they can achieve their revolution without leaders so they run like headless chickens, because they larp so much yet didn't accomplish anything, because their belief foundation is so morally foulish they get accepted by no one

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>>2764867
since you're from Tunisia I believe you

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>>2765691
i do agree on the "bad ass bad guys" part of your statement, but at the end of the day its just an aesthetic. they believe in establishing a white ethnostate just through different means then movementarianism

>>2765641
>It is Racially-motivated terrorism that uses Nazi imagery. Most of these people couldn't care less about giving white men jobs or a stable home or a source of income. That's the issue that plagues the NS movement.

youd be suprised

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>>2765725
Aesthetics influence your outside perception though. It can also (to a degree) influence how people act internally. Even if your party is strictly anti-violence, if your aesthetics are based around being super-giga ultra-satanic nigger holocaust terrorists, then there's a likelihood that people may try to structure their participation in the party AROUND that aesthetic that the organization bases itself upon.

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>>2765767
>influence your outside perception though

the siege aesthetic is basically just preaching to the choir, its meant for siege-adherents and people who are already quote-on-quote "radicalized." if you've already reached that point you dont need anymore convincing.

>It can also (to a degree) influence how people act internally


i think my above statement also applies to this

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>>2765546
>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765780
Yeah that's a fair point. What i'm trying to get at though is that I believe the NS movement CAN draw in way more people than it currently is to it's ideology if it chose the "right" aesthetics. I am NOT advocating for opticscucking. That's even more detrimental than siegekultur itself. What I'm saying though is they can draw in more recruits WITHOUT conforming to the politically cucked authority of the state (like the American First movement is doing).

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You don't need "good optics" to make people interested, you need promote what people ACTUALLY WANT (economic stability, national pride, prosperity, fair wages, fair and abundant job opportunities, and racial unity that isn't threatened by a hostile foreign people)

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>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765823
i agree with this

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>>2765823
mein kampf is a good example of what I am trying to get at. if one subscribes to siegekultur they will have most likely read mein kampf/ other keyed books. one already knows what they want when they join into the aesthetic

but i do agree with some of what you say

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>>>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765501
o9a is truly a stain on our shirt

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>>>>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765443

because they focus on the NOW and not some future state that realistically would not happen in their lifetime

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>>2765414
a lot of that is o9a influence to be honest

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>>2765802
Albeit drowning in luxury, like it's happening in many countries actually albeit not easy to point out, won't do any good to people neither, you need to know how to face both great times and bad times

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>>2765438
in what way are they not NS

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>>>>>>>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765913
They have no ideological or economic basis aside from misanthropy and blind racial hatred

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This was actually a really good, insightful, and meaningful discussion thread with very little shitflinging prior to this point. I am very pleased!

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>>2765927
this is just o9a/764 thought (which i will admit had a strong influence on AWD)

a quote from Mason
"Rednceck Racism was based on hate, fear, ignorance, and plain snobbery, etc. Hitler's kind if racialism -and Manson's- was, and is based upon Natural Order."

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>>2765949
i add this quote because i believe it is against the misanthropy promoted by degenerate groups such as o9a

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>>2764025 (OP)
My mom takes dietary fiber because she wishes she could be a movementarian.

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>>2765949
and they already have the economical basis and ideological basis that was laid out by NS Germany

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>>2765700
he jewed all of his friends btw. he literally entrapped aryan nation members with illegal gun charges for the FBI, also the reason he wrote iron gates/promoted pedophilia and satanism, is because he worked with david myatt who is also a fed. and all of that was just to "accelerate" NS (which means basically making every NS member everywhere on earth a target to the police because they have all been so mind raped they will do shit like buy CP, or larp as militants)

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we need to lower our living standards and crowd our country so we don't lose to 80iq raisinskins

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>>2765981
I hope Joshua Sutter gets pooped on by lots of pepe frogs

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>>2765981
NS always larped as militants, remember the militia movement of the 90s?

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>>2764025 (OP)
I think the aesthetic of the atomwaffen division is really cool though, I like their skull masks a lot

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>>2766119
its a big shame that 99% of them are either pedos, feds, or autistic teenage larpers

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>>2766119
Unserious

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>>2766119
The skull mask is definitely iconic and it makes sense for an NS movement (the skull masks are a reference to the totenkopf). But it's definitely an aesthetic more leaning towards ultra-militant people. Which, is only a small portion of society.

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>>2766109
i know, the SA and SS were militant too.

but i mean actual revolutionaries- they want to larp as taking on a western government

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>>2766133
a lot of those people are just larpers, they were never officially AWD

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All Nazis are retarded larpers same with communist too.

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nophono

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>>2765472
that joker poster always makes me laugh geg

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>>2764025 (OP)
>tfw clitler worshippers need to read a book just to figure out how to kill niggers

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>>2768426
>nophono posts about nophono genocides
geg

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>>2764025 (OP)
SNCA. Atomwaffen was tied to 40 different murders yet you fags do nothing but make hyperborea edits acting like you actually do anything either.

>IM NOT A NEONAZI IM A NASHONUL SOSHULIST!!!

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>doing nothing but making hyperborea edits

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>>2765472
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!! NAZIS THAT HAD A STATE YEARS AGO SHOULD BEHAVE THE SAME WAY EVEN IF THEY DONT HAVE A STATE

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Establish poopwaffen and throw poop at niggers

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>>2768686
>Establish poopwaffen and throw poop at niggers

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>>2768686
Already done

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nophono

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summoning a poop tsunami to wipe out niggers

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>Establish poopwaffen and throw poop at niggers
you had npm (no poops matter) and pisswaffen
npm is gone but pisswaffen is barely active anymore

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>>2768707
poop and niggers dying or something

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incomprehensible discussion

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>>2768711
The jannies are dead

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>>2764055
>following the ideology of a meth addict

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>>2768404
ill admit it is fucking stupid

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>>2768658
>>2768661

this is trve

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>>2768658
Quoted literally nobody award

>BUT DA MURDERSSS

Name one political impact they had. Just one.

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>>2768658
All lies geg.
40 murders? are we serious?

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>>2769330
The only one i was aware of is Blaze Bernstein

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>>2769331
There was like a Muslim convert in atomwaffaggot that killed two of his own comrades after they made fun of him for believing in a sandnigger religion.

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>>2769334
Oh yeah. Whatever happened to the members Brandon Russell called out. One of them was apparently a commie.

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>>2769328
They blasted the AWD into the public's eyes, if it wasn't for that they'd probably… yknow.

AWD never really wanted to fight the government, they were just preparing for a collapse. A good example of what I am getting at is MD (which I don't agree with it's philosophy because it's misanthropic) with the collapse of Ukraine and the nationalization of Azov they've been able to actually take action in their nation.

On the topic of pedos who subscribe to siegekultur, ID (one of the biggest groups) literally doxxed a Patriot Front pedo

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>>2769392
Al ot of new groups learned from AWD's mistakes and don't allow satanists or o9a's into their ranks anymore is what I'm getting at.

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>>2769395
A lot*

fuck my ESL

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>>2769395
>allowing satanist larpers in your larp group

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>>2769399
Marge I cant tell if your agreeing with me or shitting on me

satanism is inherently harmful doe

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>>2769413
Agreeing, allowing litteraly fedded and autistic niggers into muh heckin sociatal collapse edgy niggerwaffen group will kill it.

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>>2769420
>being niggerwaffen and throwing poop at niggers

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>>2769334
sounds based

attomwaffen is cringe

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>>2769413
>Marge

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>>2769420
there are a lot of larping nigger groups doe

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>>2769429
I know.

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>>2769431
how hot are serbian women?

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>>2769433
They're pretty, like 8/10. Why?

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>>2769447
i'm immigrating to serbia after two months

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>>2769448
What country you from?

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>>2769431
I'm glad we can agree on some things

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>>2769426
>approving of sandniggers killing people

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>>2769544
yeah, you got a problem whitey?

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>>2769559
the lion does not concern itself with a VPN pajeet

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>>2769648
you're the one who brought this issue by your reply; if you didn't care, you wouldn't have made that reply 'mutt

i hate your ass but would nut in it nonetheless

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>>2769656
Nigga kill yourself.

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>Banning rights

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>>2765939
negro-replying but I'm always happy to discuss NS

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400

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>banning reproduction and growing people in labs

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>>2765414
>advocating for mass-murderers
>>2765641
>suicidal terrorist throwing his life away in a mass-shooting to "save the white race"

Siege speaks strongly against this mindset

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>>2764025 (OP)
>tfw clitler hasnt killed a single non white

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>>2769814
James Mason Openly and very proudly admired Charles Manson

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>>2769867
>>2769814
On top of that they literally have a thing called "Saint culture" where they martyrize mass-shooters such as Brenton Tarrant and Anders Breivik

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>tfw collapse happens and military junta just executes you alongside with some commie niggers
siege is some mumbo jumbo harry poterTM shit for first world edgy ytbois

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>>2769868
that's from 764 and terrorgram, not siegekultur.

>>2769867

His understanding of society was instinctive, almost animalistic. He saw clearly that the liberal world of consumerism, racial equality, sexual liberation, and bourgeois comfort was not progress it was the death of the human soul. He saw the artificiality of Hollywood, the sickness behind the smiling faces, the manipulation of youth culture, and the poisoning of race and identity. And he spoke about it cryptically, but prophetically. Not with policy, but with parable, action, and force of personality. That's why Mason saw something in him: not a man of slogans, but a living symbol of acceleration, someone who understood that the world cannot be changed politely.

As for the infamous murders yes, the liberal world clutches its pearls at the name "Sharon Tate." But look at the context. That house was a nexus of corruption, and Roman Polanski Tate's husband was and still is a degenerate predator. Even before the rape conviction that would come years later, Polanski was immersed in the darkest elements of elite Hollywood: sexual exploitation, hedonism, occult symbolism. Manson's Family didn't attack that home because they were insane. They struck where the spiritual cancer was festering the loudest.

Quite different than going to a random supermarket/mosque/shooting a bunch of kids

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>>2770003
I will say a lot of 764niggers takes from siegekultur, but siegekultur does not take from 764niggers

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>>2770003
Get this ai shit out of here and kill yourself.
>>2769433
It varies. Some are very pretty and some are ugly as shit. But there are more pretty ones.

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>>2770112
>Get this ai shit out of here and kill yourself.

put it through an AI-detector, you see how there are no hyphen dashes?

ad hominem or however the burgers are fried

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>>2770112
>Get this ai shit out of here and kill yourself.

put it through an AI-detector, you see how there are no hyphen dashes?

ad hominem or however the burgers are fried

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>>2770120
>its not x its y
>using :
No human types like this naturally.

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>>2770137
nusois really see people using proper Grammar and assume its AI

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>>2770137

Here's an AI detection software, it will tell you it is most likely written by a human. Which it is.

https://www.zerogpt.com/

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Im not here to argue, cause its retarded and pointless, ill just say your opinion of SIEGE clearly isnt based off of reading it, and also yeah, NSDAP was movementarian but still engaged in and advocated for political terror. Today, you're not going to bring the "white masses" together and form a white ethnostate (which in and of itself is an egalitarian and collectivist goal, even if it is just in context of the white race)

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>>2764025 (OP)
May y'all plz archive this post?

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>>2769868
>Anders Breivik
He is a saint doe

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>>2774248
has 3TB of 'p to save the white race award (satan told him this)

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>>2774248
Nophono freemason



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