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im polish what the fuck is this supposed to mean
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sure
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>>2754112What OP is saying is that people of ethnic polski identity were ruled over by germanic goths that originated from sweden or some shit it's snca
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nobaldi cares in that case
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>>2754088 (OP)>nophono village right on the eastern borderAs if it wasn't already known that Goths had migrated though there.
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>>2754156Few know. Very few polskis know.
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shit nordic bronze age phonos care fan about
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Where do you get this info from
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everyphono thread
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>>2754123ev&doe they did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_cultureit wouldn't be snca if u knew about it honey…
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Its still crazy to mi how the proto-slavic word for king/ruler is from East Germanic lmfao
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>>2754530It originated from "Karl", referring to Charlemagne.
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>>2754549No lol holy cope it came from Gothic kuniggs
k'nedz' (Old Church Slavonic k'nedz', Russian knyaz' knyaz', Polish ksiaze
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>>2754581"Ksiaze" means "Duke" in Polish.
"Krol" means "King" and it's derived from "Karl"
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>>2754624Because feudalism came to Poland from the west. I don't find it particularly novel.
Although it's an interesting observation that the word for "Duke" is from east germanic, and the word for "King" is from the west germanic. Likely because we were a duchy first and there is a popular theory of nord/gothic origins of our first royal dynasty, Piast.
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>>2754659Well yes of course the Goths ruled over early slavs. They were more like a war-band aristocracy not established kingdom
The samples sent include early slavs in gothic context burials, but the Goth burials much more hierarchical
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>>2754659Piast y-chromosome was R1b, not sure which subclade tho.
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>>2754679I'm not into genetics, but it's a well known fact that Duke's druzyna (a small retinue of warriors) consisted of vikings or viking-like warriors. It has not been determined if they were mercenaries or his kinsmen, however. What does R1b mean?
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>>2754719R1b is a haplogroup, a haplogroup is a genetic grouping of individuals who share a common ancestor or something.
R1b is a Y-DNA haplogroup which means that it shows paternal lineage
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obsessed thread
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>>2754719R1b means not slavic in origin
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Little polish bug critters
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>replaced in the 5th century Kek
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>>2754812>rapedYou're mistaken, the Goths were the overlords of slavs
Slavs migrated and replaced the Goths because they migrated to Rome…
Silly polshit
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>>2754874Even&oe it literally says in the article you linked that 75% of them were scandinavians
And that there were only 4 corpses found from all the excavations and archeoligc shit that had r1a genes
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>>2754886Yes i know
Because they were Goths
Slavic cultures replaced them because they left to conquer Rome
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>>2754907Before you claimed that they were slavic but ruled by goths, KEK
Amerimutts why so inconsistent?
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>>2754934>the aristocrat graves are Germanic I1 GothsYup slaves lost
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>>2754907So we were speaking of the time before the fall of Rome? That's way before the Piast dynasty, as the first ruler of whose existence we are absolutely certain was Mieszko, born in the 10th century.
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>>2754993you can search for the piast Y-haplogroup. It's R1b, which tells the origin