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Yup, no nazis in valhalla!
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>>2501215Fuck off n*zi chud
No nazis in Valhalla!
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>>2501236Evandoe vikings race mixed constantly
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>>2501248doe they could mostly only race mix with northern europeans
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>>2501229stolen from me 5 minutes ago award
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>>2501236Kill yourself nazi
BLACK people are our kin, not bigoted chuds like you
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NO
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>>2501257They spiritually cannot be Germanic Pagan because they are an Eternal slave race (Thralls) as described in Rigsthula. Thralls historically had even less rights than slaves did in other cultures. They were treated like farm animals rather than humans.
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Christkeks…I
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>>2501229Even doe m8l8th and wotan jugend larp as muh heggin' Germanic and they're believe in "wotanis" inside their ideology or something
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>>2501212 (OP)I'll never understand pagan shit.
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>>2501285Protestants aren't Christian
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>>2501291>it wasnt real christianitychristgegs……
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>>2501212 (OP)Vaush top left made be gloink out loud
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>>2501285Quit leaking, gempass faggot.
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>>2501299>christgegs are t*rks…..
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>>2501302>"Pagans Against White Supremacy">Literally has a Tempel ov Blood Logo for their symbolGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG average non-racialist "pagan" larper
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>>2501327>no argumentI VVQN
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nooo zelenski i cant go to war i must defend le christendom on the sharty
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>>2501327Unholy levels of leakage.
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>>2501334>>2501332>>2501327>>2501329???
marge am i too retarded to understand
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fight for your commander in jew or whatever
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>>2501337is about russias advance into ukraine
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>>2501323We have an actual argument for the "it's not real ___" thing. It is literally racialist at it's core as described in Rigsthula.
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>>2501330>no argumentI VVQN
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>>2501302I just noticed the "witches against WS" sticker. She's a wiccan, not a european pagan
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>>2501337Swede clitty leaked and posted Ukraine losing because xe has no arguments
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>>2501346Keep in mind this is exactly how Communists operate.
>noo saaar this not real [x] because if it was real and pure it would work how I like and not make mi clitty leak saar â„–2501358[Quote]
>>2501355refer to
>>2501356No True Scotsman fallacy if you didn't know
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>>2501348handcrafted by Richard Dawkins himself for BWC
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>>2501356Commies don't actually have an argument for the "it's not true ___" thing. We actually do. The girl with the stickers the ukie posted has a "witches against white supremacy" sticker. Which means she is a WICCAN and not a European Pagan. And Rigsthula EXPLICITY lays out that browns and blacks are a slave race. And that WHITE MEN are the freemen, the workers, the soldiers, the kings, and the rulers.
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>>2501356>>2501358In other words, you're throwing around buzzwords in bad faith intentionally to try and dismiss my points that I present.
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>>2501346Like all pagans you are more concerned with trying to do what feels good instead of understanding what is true.. your "gods" aren't real. Most pagans only "believe" in their Gods to gain some sort of ethno religion. If you care about truth you'd see that It's the Gospel that is true. Not these heathen Gods
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Wicca is essentially Satanism for Lesbian women and queers. It's only called "Pagan" because it's *Technically* a new faith because it's a patchwork frankenstein of other faiths. At it's core though it's Gnostic Satanism but they changed the name of the idol to not reference Satan because they don't want association with the bible. Even their god is a goat-horned demonic creature
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Gemmy shitflinging thread between theistoid retards
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>>2501270Please stop the larp nigga you are irish and lombardian, you are probably like 25% germanic
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>>2501392>Your faith isn't real because MY faith says yours isn't realNon-argument that'd just end up in a circular back-and-forth.
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>>2501399>You're irish and lombardianFollowed by
>Probably only 25% GermanicDo I even bother anymore, nusois?
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>>25013731) Your argument is identical. "B- but the Rigsthula says we're gonna be extremist!" is EXACTLY the same as "B- but the manifesto says we're gonna be equal!" You're making an appeal to "purity" to dismiss clear counterexamples, which is a logical fallacy.
>muh buzzwordJust because you had to look it up doesn't mean its a buzzword.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman2) The sticker in focus clearly declares affiliation with the pagan faith. So it's an L larp and self-contradictory, yes. So is yours.
Anyway, what's the point you're trying to make?
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>>2501405Cope
take a dna test
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>>2501407Wicca isn't Germanic Pagan. It'd be like if I said "Christianity is the same as Islam because they're both ABRAHAMIC!". They're barely, if even remotely associated with eachother at all.
And no, the arguments are not identical. You're making a false connection
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>>2501401Only that you do not believe in your faith and you have no proof of your faith being real
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>>2501407The "Counter-examples" you present do not hold any legitimacy because they don't actually practice the same thing.
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>>2501401Only that you do not believe in your faith and you have no proof of your faith being real
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>>2501411The arguments make the same fallacy. Are you saying that you're not making an appeal to purity by claiming that others' pagan larps are less true to some snca book?
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>>2501417I do believe in my faith and I actively practice it. I don't see how I can definitively prove it to you though without you also partaking in it. It's as futile as attempting to covert someone by trying to blurt bible quotes at them.
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>>2501422Do you consider people who wear a cross simply for the aesthetic to be christian?
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>>2501427You practicing your religion doesnt make it real
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>>2501401That's not my argument. Truth is immortal. You understand the world through a materialistic lens there is far more to this world than you can begin to imagine
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>>2501437We have spiritual writings too
>>2501435Non-argument
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>>2501443It is an argument doe
You claim that your religion is real but you cannot prove it
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>>2501420You do the same, do you realize that? Visitors of a protestant church with Jewish pastors and a pride flag don't practice the same tradition I do.
>>2501428If they don't declare themselves Christian, no. False equivalence as these examples do declare themselves to be pagan.
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>>2501443Ones you don't fully believe in. I know because I was once the same way. You still think about the world as if God didn't exist. As if it was a dead world
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>>2501446Somebody can CLAIM to be something but not actually be apart of it though. Do you see where i'm going here? Somebody can SAY they're in the military but that doesn't actually MEAN they are, nor do they know any military drills or traditions.
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>>2501456Personal beliefs are different. There are "bad Christians" and "impure Christians" who claim the Gospel without practicing. And yet you won't accept that there can be people who claim your faith without sharing your values. Am I wrong?
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>>2501452>You don't believe in them because I SAID SOI'm gonna stop bothering with you
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>inb4 you call me a hypocrite
And no, I'm not saying these people are "not Christian."
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There is no proof of paganism
Paganism is not real
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>>2501478Shalom Fellow Chosen one!
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>>2501469No need for you to get upset. I know how you think about it. Faith feels unsure to you. Your aren't certain. You might think you do but your words say otherwise
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>>2501466That's been my point this entire time. However clearly-defined faiths aren't about personal beliefs. criminals can claim to be innocent when they're clearly not. The communism thing though is communism was ACTUALLY TRIED by the book and it failed. These people are simply SAYING they're "pagan" without actually practicing germanic pagan belief or traditions. Hence why I do not associate with them. The same as I don't conflate agnostic christians with ones who actually practice the faith.
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>>2501484I've attended catholic masses before with my grandparents when I was younger and it felt spiritually wrong and hostile to me.
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>>2501496What i'm saying is if you CLAIM to be something without actually BEING APART OF IT beyond just saying "i'm apart of this" then you're not actually apart of it.
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>>2501496>The same as I don't conflate agnostic christians with ones who actually practice the faith.if only your actions backed this up…
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>>2501513Every faith has been claiming miracles as their own for centuries doe
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>>2501502As you said earlier in
>>2501496Its not about how you feel about something but the truth behind it, saying "im wont be a christian becouse i dont like church" is dumb and stupid
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>>2501519Even&oe there are only a few "miracles" of other religions
while there are a lot of christian miracles, and they still happen today
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>>2501508Anyway, you've historically used the same tactics for your own side, and I think that should be pretty clear. I'm not particularly hostile to you or your faith, I just think it's funny to see the dichotomy across pagan faiths. I imagine a liberal paganist (or "neopaganist," if I must) would react similarly to learning that "Wikingtog88 !Rape/WarTE" was using the pagan faith to justify racism and the Holocaust online.
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>>2501519Yes but others have it to much lesser extent and much less were recorded(or it's "fish says allah"-tier shit)
while Christianity has great record of them, just take catholic eucharistic miracles for example
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>>2501520I never said that. I won't be christian because i've been exposed to both Germanic Pagan and Christian practices at a young age and the Pagan practices felt right to me. They felt truthful to me. It felt like I was actually worshipping gods rather than being subjugated by one like what the christian mass felt like. I was given a choice and I chose the one that felt right and truthful to me.
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>>2501531I don't try to justify the holocaust.
The thing is I actually have historical writings and texts from our faith that actually back up the racialist stances. They literally don't because it doesn't exist
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>>2501543I don't understand this goycattle tier thinking where you adopt a worldview according to how "based" it is rather than the extent to which it's true.
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>>2501543so you admit that you choose not what is more truthfull but what feels better
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>>2501551I literally NEVER said the word "based" this entire thread
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>>2501543>True to youBecause it felt right lmao. You have proven me correct in my analysis of you. You conflate truth with feelings. Truth is far more than that
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>>2501554>I chose what what felt more TRUTHFUL<ahhhh, so you chose what felt RIGHT?Illiterate
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>>2501563I chose it because the truth feels right
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>>2501405He's right. Probably not even 20%
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>>2501563You said in
>>2501496That Choosing something that isnt factual is dumb
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>>2501562The way I see it is if jesus was the truth he would have reached out to me when I was in his places of worship. But he never did, the god's gave me my spiritual connection (larpity larp larp)
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>>2501549I guess I see what you mean but I'm sure they wrote out texts saying that paganism should be inclusive and shit too. No?
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>>2501577By "they" do you mean the queer neopagans or the founders of the faith
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>>2501575>god'sKEEEEEEK ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL KEEEEEEEEEEEEEk ESL KEEEEEEEEK ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL KEEEEEEEEEEEEK IRL JARTYCUCK ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL LESOTHARYAN GEM ESL ESL KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK ESL ESL ESL ESL
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>>2501575Most people never hear god speak. He often tells me things but rarely speaks. Mostly about people. God deciding to speak to you personally isn't something even 10% of people get to do. It's no reason to dismiss the entire faith. Think about it. If you were God, would you feel like you have to speak to every person? Especially if they expect that of you? No. It's an act of submission. God submits to no one
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>>2501582geg genuine Ebonics
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>>2501575How do you Explain the experiences of people who had visions of jesus
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>>2501580Isn't the point that you worship everlasting gods and shit without a Christ-like figure or something to "found" it? Your individual "sect" or whatever probably had a founder or foundational document but as a whole who's to say that some neopagan document is less accurate to the historical basis of paganism than yours?
>>2501587It was bait thanks for the reppey
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>>2501588I can't confirm or deny them since I'm not those people. Anybody can claim anything
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>>2501592Apart from that, how do you explain eucharistic miracles that have been confirmed to happen and there are even photos of them?
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>>2501590No that's not how the worship goes. Worship was very consistent across all germanic tribes, including ones that hated eachother's guts. That's why it's a faith and not a "path of thought". It's very clearly defined and so trying to write some bullshit like "Odin said trans rights during ragnarok" is invalid because it's lacks legitimacy and is based purely off of personal biases.
Also I was saying I spoke ebonics cause I used improper punctuation geg
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>>2501608He speaks when you don't demand it. The expectation of him doing anything to prove himself is the submission. It's why God refuses to let people test him. He isn't some toy to be played with
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>>2501612Well I'm not you so I can't confirm if he did or not. Like i've had some of those moments too but I can't really prove them to you either since you're not me.
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>>2501614I've actually seen some. There are icons in Greece that constantly emit oil when left alone.
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>>2501616Sometimes God tells me stuff about people that I shouldn't know. How do you explain that
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>>2501621i think that's just you being a schizo
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>>2501618I don't really see how these are proof of miracles. Like the one I read was how a tsunami crashed into one island and destroyed it but didn't hit another Island. I don't see how that's really proof of any miracles
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>>2501631Look at thee three
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>no tripcode since I'm on my phone.>>2501604I'm not as familiar with the history, obviously, but based on what I can understand this means that what you use to refute Christians (lesbian Jewish pastors and the like) is as much of a bastardization of the faith as what I may use to refute you (Odin
transwxmen and the like).
I have to leave now, I'll come back to see where this thread goes
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>>2501630Maybe lmao. I remember I knew things about my best friend the minute I met him. Stuff I shouldn't know. All turned out to be true
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>>2501644just curious why do you defend christinity and judaism at the same time
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>>2501647SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH
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…sorry I'm on my mensuration that's why I got angry forgive me
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>>2501648what did i do wrong
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>>2501624Are these just saying the bread was bleeding
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>>2501651>gegYOU really find what you defend funny?
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>>2501624>>2501631Buenos Aires and Lanciano were also tested if you want even more miracles, so 5 in total tested in labs shown AB blood and or heart tissue.
Notable that the Shroud of Turin also contains AB and its obviously also an extraordinary miracle in its own right, its impossible to recreate the image
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>>2501653During the eucharystion Bread turns into the real body of jesus christ
In these situations you can see it happen
They are unexplainable using science
they are miracles
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>>2501646I knew his mother had just committed suicide. And that his girlfriend left him during the grieving period
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>>2501660>>2501671I dunno how much I believe the stories, no offense. But why is there only about 1 instance in the 8th century and then it suddenly started allegedly happening a lot again in the 90's and 2000s?
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>>2501679Recorded a lot more o algo
If it happened in 8th century in some random village church there is a pretty good chance records wouldn't survive to this day
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>>2501679>But why is there only about 1 instance in the 8th century and then it suddenly started allegedly happening a lot again in the 90's and 2000s?To be fully honest with you i don't know
It may have to do something with the fact that people became less religous, There are a lot of Different types of miracles, I recommend you read about saints and their lives, They are filled with miracles of different types, from vision to miraculous healings. BTW miraculou healings still happen today, You can search up Carlo acutis, He reacently Became Canonised After miracoulisly Healing 2 people.