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>>2450026 (OP)hey another colorjak
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>>2450053How do you guys get these names or use memeflags?
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I can do anything that is legal without being stoned to death
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>>2450069You get a memeflag with the coal pass
You can write Colorjak in the namefield to get it
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It worked
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>>2450073Brotosynthetis that was not what he was asking 🙏
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>>2450080They're trans wholesome or something
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>>2450073>You deserve severe punishment, but that punishment is not yours to inflict.This is a truth nuclear bomb by the way
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>>2450073Honestly the OP and the comments deserve to be put in a labor camp slaving in coal mines
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>>2450069months ago someone discovered that the namerolls worked on /qa/ (when pol didn't have namefagging again) when you namefagged as them so for instance if you namefag as alicia or as gigachad the effect is going to apply
colorjak effect is to avoid id's and flags which is something i used to derail threads on /qa/
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>>2450090Does this work , how could you tell?
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>>2450097yep
it also works with all namerolls that have some type of effect
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Christ won!
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>>2450120Can they?, how could you tell?
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>>2450114When my brother Martin Luther read the greek translation of the bible, he wrote some very interesting things.
How can jew and hebrew be the same but are two different words? And what does it mean that they are different? And how and why did John the baptist practice baptism before even Jesus was baptized? What has been hidden and removed?
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>>2450125Accepting punishment in life is honorable.
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>>2450121True!
>>2450125Yes. Execution serves a very important role in Christian society, but it's not just to send bad people to hell, it's done in the hope that they repent and are saved.
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>>2450136I think it depends on how much time you give them before you execute them, how could you tell?
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>>2450140To be fair they get cleansed of their sins when sent to heaven, albeit I doubt they will go there, how could you tell?
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>>2450148I know you guys probably have a lot of writings and such surrounding that belief system in christianity. But It just never sat right with me about how somebody could literally go their whole life being the most hedonistic, pedophilic, psychotic demonic thing ever known to man, but as long as they "repent" (muttering a line of words) right before they die they're suddenly granted eternal salvation and are forgiven. But somebody who lived an honest, working, normal life but just so happened to not be religious gets sent to hell.
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>>2450154>repenting is muttering a line of wordsNobody says this.
, how could you tell?
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>>2450140The worth of souls is great, and a pedophile who never hurt a child but had his heart taste for it is better off than a pedophile who actually did.
And Jesus and God did say it is better for those who hurt little ones to kill themselves instead, and that a suicide instead of killing little ones is better. But life righteously is better than suicide.
The problem is that few freaks try to correct themselves, but a few do, and they do become better through a miraculous intervention which is possible for all.
But be weary of them who love wickedness.
Their hearts guide their actions, and you know of them by their fruits, which is the fruits of their labors, which their hearts guide.
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I'd say it is the historicity of both the Old and New Testament. It makes bold claims that could have been easily disproved yet they never were. Like the resurrection, it was a public event who hundreds or thousands saw and the only thing they had to do to disprove Christianity was to find a body, yet no body was found. Then how accurately the Old and New Testament describes history of that region. Did you know that archeologists will often use the Bible to find places to excavate? Or how accurately the Apostles describe the region on their travels? Other minor things like the message of the Bible being extremely unique and generally unappealing to most cultures of that time. How Hebrews managed to survive calamity after calamity in their history without disappearing, while other peoples disappeared for less. How Christianity spread without any violence for first 500 years under extremely hostile circumstances. The prophecies that came true, despite how unlikely some may be.
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>>2450154There's more elements in it. The process is constrained by 1. Being better at the end than how you were before. And 2. Not hurting others.
The heart is judges by its actions first, then words it said, then thoughts. And there are many hypocrites who think they outstarted God, but never lived a righteous life.
Don't let them sway you, God's laws are more stern and harder than iron.
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>>2450140Why do you think you deserve it more than they do? We are all filthy sinners in the eyes of God, but fret not when it comes to these people God often gives them to their desires, so most likely they will never repent. You can see that in experiences of some pastors who would administer to the people on death row where they note that often those people would literally say "I can't repent" or similar.
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>>2450154>somebody could literally go their whole life being the most hedonistic, pedophilic, psychotic demonic thing ever known to man, but as long as they "repent" (muttering a line of words) right before they die they're suddenly granted eternal salvation and are forgivenYou fundamentally misunderstand what repentance is. If someone tried to "apologize" to you for a slight but did nothing other than begrudgingly mutter some words, you would not accept it as a real apology, why would you accept this definition to repentance before God?
>>2450161 Jesus and God did say it is better for those who hurt little ones to kill themselves instead, and that a suicide instead of killing little ones is better. But life righteously is better than suicide.
That is NOT what that verse says
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>>2450170Forgot my trusty arrow, but you get it
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>>2450154Repentance is not a "line of words" It is a necessary change in the heart to truly realize that what you did was monstrous and very very few of those people are capable of doing that.
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>>2450168While God sees us all as equal, the fact remains that there is heaven and hell, and the frindship of Jesus. Therefore a saint is not the same as a satanist who dies in satanism.
But a satanist who was brainwashed and raised wrong, who repents, has more worth, if they never committed unforgiveable sins. For there are occults who raise men and women wrong. And God is merciful because of the wickedness of their fathers.
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>>2450170then you know not the verse's meaning. And will not judge men.
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Lovely thread we have going on here, how could you tell?
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>>2450172And the Orthodox argument is that there are circumstances in which it is easier for someone to truly change their heart in repentance under the duress of execution than a prison sentence
>>2450174>But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.Notice how it says "that a millstone were hanged about his neck,", not "that he were to hang a millstone around his own neck."
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>>2450186I should say that the Orthodox Church has no official position on the death penalty, that's just my own political position from a Christian perspective
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>>2450172A necessary change in heart is difficult for many. Few even realize this. Many even only routinely pray but never really self reflect on their sins against others, and so many take their faith for granted that they are forgiven. But behold they run their mouths, and do not try to change.
>>2450186>>2450189Are you here correcting me about the word of God but you cannot recognize it yourself?
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>>2450189Death penalty is indeed Christian and a moral good. It should be done in public, but in a generally quick and painless way.
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>>2450194You have that right. There is no joy in dealing punishment, and death. But only righteousness of the pure of heart.
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>>2450194Eh, I'm still on the fence about public execution. I understand that it serves the purpose of providing relief to the victims of a crime and an overall sense of security to the citizens, but I only think that really applies in a small, tight-knit society in which a crime would effect everyone. But yes, obviously it should be done painlessly.
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>>2450201Well it would imply that a Christian state in place and as the Scriptures say, government is a minister of God and it does not bear the sword in vain. So, of course an unjust state shouldn't exercise the death penalty, because well it is unjust. And the death penalty is really only applied in four (five) cases, that being rape, kidnapping, blasphemy, murder (and big injury) and interestingly it never proscribes prison as a punishment and it makes sense. Prison is much more inhumane than whipping or death penalty. Imagine being locked in a cage with serial killers, rapists and cartel guys over just getting your head chopped off or getting a whipping.
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>>2450222Prison is humane for those who do not commit an unforgiveable sin, and behold they should be made to work, and behold they should also be promised a correction and a return to independece, for all criminals are not the same, and not all crimes weigh the same, but murderers, rapists and pedophiles , and warmongers, hold those accountable until the end of their days.
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>>2450220>Book of MormonDon't you guys believe Christ was a created being?
>>2450222Yes, this is all true. I think my politics are very idealistic in that, despite being pro-death penalty, I don't think there could ever be a government in my lifetime that could do it in a just way.
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>>2450229God the Father did beget a Son. And an only Son.
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>>2450229Why are men blood thirsty?
Are they cursed?
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>>2450229>>2450239Therefore what is the attitude of the devil lucifer?
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>>2450235Eternally begotten thougheverbeit
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>>2450252It is good for men to read the word of God, and if they have the Holy Spirit they will find the fault or the good.
But behold if you have been a glutton of some sort, or an idolater, or you have pride or ego, it is better for you to fast and pray for a few days before asking of God.
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>>2450229Honestly I don't really hate Mormons all that much. They behave more like we should in all honesty.
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>>2450261I haven't talked to many in real life, as far as I know they are fine folk, but Mormonism itself is very crazy and shouldn't be respected.
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>>2450269Tell me of the craziest thing of "mormonism"
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>>2450273Theologically, what I just mentioned previously. Believing Christ is created is pretty crazy work.
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>>2450280You have too much pride to hear.
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>>2450285"I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen."
How much of this can you say you believe? What parts do you disagree with?
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>>2450285The prideful one here is you. So, church was mistaken for 1800 years and then ONE guy comes and corrects everything, contradicting 1800 years of Christian history? On what basis can you reject Islam then? They also contradicts majority of Christian history, but only for 700 years.
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>>2450310Forgot to remove the Filioque, it's over
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>>2450280But no really God the Father is who Christians like myself worship in the name of Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son.
So I ask again, what's the crazy thing you even worry about when it comes to Mormonism.
>>2450312He was a pure man who humbled himself as a youngster and asked God which church was true.
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>>2450313Oh nononono, how could you tell?
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>>2450312Don't forget the non stop wars in europe between christian nations, not 1 prophet the whole time. A pope who can't keep peace and many popes who called for war… Not exactly a true christian europe, definitely not like the old testament where God protects Noah. Therefore not the same God, but a God of war perhaps?
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>>2450313I still need you to give a real dislike of mormonism because Jesus being begotten means God the Father is first.
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>>2450325The test of free will and what house you will go to. War for warriors, heaven for saints of peace.
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>>2450314I already told you
>>2450327I already did. Answer my question concerning the Nicene Creed and I could probably tell you more about what i disagree with.
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>>2450314That's a bad argumentation. So if I pray real hard and a voice in the dark tells me that the New Testament is only the Gospel of John I should listen to it?
>>2450322Because prophets end with John the Baptist, as you can read in Zechariah 13. Beyond that, what you mention is a problem for Catholics and Protestants, the same conflict didn't really exist in Orthodoxy.
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>>2450337And you can really see how Catholics fell because the Chruch decided to dabble more in politics than in theology and how Protestant rejection of tradition caused a hundred splinters and heresies.
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>>2450344You fail to understand the term "begotten" in that sense in the same manner Arius did. The Son is eternally begotten and the Spirit eternally precedes. If the Father is eternal, then the Son also has to be. Think about it like this, you are only a father for as long as you have a son, right? You are not a father if you don't have a son. The Father is eternally the Father, therefore He eternally has a Son, who is by extension also eternal.
>>2450344That's a Muslim tier argument man. Just read the previous passage and you will see why He responds as He does there.
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>>2450344>Says there is none good but God>Does not deny being good>Does not deny being GodHow does this prove He is not God?
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>>2450354In short, terms "begotten" and "preceding" are descriptions of relationship that the Father and the Son share and the relationship the Father and the Spirit share. This will be somewhat hard for you to understand because you believe in uncreated (ie. eternal) matter.
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>>2450343There are no heresies except for satanism and those who rebel against God and change his word which is a great evil. For men who change the word of God act as if they are God and can speak supreme words and meanings. But you know there are many false teachers and false prophets, behold their works are for themselves and not for God and that many suffer and are mislead for their own personal gains.
But behold the mormons who are actually the Chruch of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
And why is that Church named that way. For if it is named after any man, it becomes that man's name, like saint peter, or saint nicholas, therefore God is jealous. And make God not jealous, and give no names to church except Jesus Christ.
>>2450354You know not as is demonstrated by never reading the book of Mormon, for if you were a saint and one to judge the world, you would be open minded enough to read of what the hearts of men have written. Therefore as you speak against me with nothing solid or liquid, I know you have not the heart for it.
Therefore I will debunk orthodoxy.
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>>2450361Yes I do read the books of other religions, but also the historical context, so I know generally what I'm talking about. I'm not an expert on Mormonism, but I know your general belief and how they are problematic from a historical point of view.
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>>2450379Do mormons really count as a denomination, how could you tell?
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>>2450376Byzantium fell because they became eastern Catholics and got in communion with Rome. They hired mercenaries they couldn't pay. Russian Empire fell because the people in charge got out of touch with the real world.
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>>2450386I mean I know in mormonism they don't count it as "sex" unless you thrust, so what they do is they'll have a woman mount the guy on top and then like two others will jump on the bed so she bounces on him without thrusting and so therefore it's apparently not intercourse
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>>2450386If you are confused about denominations and mormonism, that is because you're supposed to look into it more carefully
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>>2450389Don't forget about da jooooz
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>>2450389it's because they ddin't have a prophet and enough peopel to believe him.
>>2450390a few teenagers slag and attempts at explaining away their lustful thoughts mean nothing
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>>2450392I'm not confused
>>2450390Oh nonononono is this true
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>>2450386I mean, pagansluttas can't differentiate anything as their entire knowledge of Christianity comes from like 2-3 anti-Christian images that get reposted on /pol/. They would call JWs or Mormons Christians because they use Christ's name or Scientology because it calls it's self a Church and uses a cross.
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>>2450396yup it is he just confirmed it
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>>2450394Again, prophets ended with John the Baptist. No more prophets have come or will come.
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>>2450389>>2450393The price of claiming to know Christ but not actually doing so is terrible. I feel pity for fools who do not know.
1. If they were true Christians, they would have survived.
2. God is stronger than any man's legs, let no pride be abound, God delivers all
3. deal in vengeance or wrath not, the devil will bind you to a painful death.
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>>2450399No, that is a muslim take.
Prophets must continue, but the world hates Christ and hates his messengers, so many are forgotten.
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>>2450400Allah tier theology
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>>2450403the lesser evil destroys the greater evil
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>>2450402Muslims think that muhammed was the last prophet so this is far from true
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>>2450407for some reasons catholics, orthodox, and most besides mormons think that God no longer can speak to mankind.
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>>2450408Nobody has EVER said this. You need meds asap.
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>>2450408U should go to sleep my knee gear
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>>2450409catholics, orthodox, and others believe that there are no more prophets?
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>>2450409He's a sleepy American
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>>2450402Okay, let me make it simple for you. Does a "prophet" have to be in-line with what came before?
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>>2450404>>2450397They're still inherently "christian" in the sense that they worship the same spirit and follow *SIMILAR* teachings. It'd be disingenuous to not acknowledge that. It's more-so that they're just a rather far off-shoot of christianity and I do acknowledge that what they do is in essence "blasphemy" to you guys outside of mormonism
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>>2450412Prophet is someone who delivers new, public revelation which the Bible states will no longer happen in the Messianic age (in which we live). God can still freely speak to individuals if He chooses to do so.
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>>2450412If by prophets you mean those like moses and elijiah then yes there are no more
>>2450417the basis of christianity is that Christ is God so if you think he's created that makes you not a christian
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>>2450415don't use wordplay if you have the holy spirit, you will be cursed with misunderstanding.
if a prophet is in line with what came before, and speak in line with what is, then he is with God the Eternal Father who is unchanging, as is Jesus Christ unchanging, as is the Holy spirit un changing, as is the entirety of heaven unchanging.
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>>2450420Does the latter happen with saints
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>>2450417I mean by that logic even Muslims are Christians or Buddiths who claim that Jesus had "Christ consciousness"
>>2450423Answer the question, can a prophet contradict what came before.
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>>2450422You know not of Jesus Christ hard and long work for God the Father.
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>>2450429The prophets never contradicted one another before or during or after.
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>>2450426I didn't read your post so I might have said something retarded
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>>2450432Therefore ye are cursed with blindness already. And therefore since I have spoken and you have discarded it, I am not to toss pearls to the pigs.
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>>2450424Yes, but you have to be careful with that. There is a concept in Orthodoxy called "prelest" meaning spiritual delusion. Know that God is not the only one who can speak with people. Judge every spirit as Paul says.
>>2450431And now be honest, is Joseph's revelation in contradiction with HISTORIC Christianity.
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>>2450429No because they worship different spirits and have entirely different theology that has little-to-no relation to christian teachings. Mormonism essentially uses christianity as a base for it's teachings but then veered off on it's own path. At it's core it's still a christian denomination though, albeit not a very good or sound one.
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>>2450433talking to the wiking guy diddybld
>>2450434Yeah true not even saints are always correct
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>>2450434Never was, because yours was always corrupt and waged wars against other churches. While Mormons were always victims, as was Jesus.
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>>2450439Is victimhood really your indication that it is the true Church?
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>>2450443Reminds me of
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>>2450439Okay, be dishonest.
>>2450443That's a low IQ argument some groups use. Yes, true followers of Christ will be persecuted, but they will also not be in contradiction with everything that came before and it will not be self-inflicted.
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>>2450443long suffering is
>>2450444your wickedness will be punished
>>2450447then be accursed also
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>>2450450For I have spoken much against the ignorant masses and I am known to speak this and they continue to refuse to hear, therefore they are unrighteous.
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>>2450450that is not what longsuffering is 🙏
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>>2450453How can a prophet go door to door and be ridiculed and denied except he go to Sodom and Gomorrah? That they reject him and tell him he is crazy but themselves hear no good but speak of law and order?
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>>2450450It has also been said: "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."
That is to say, do not seek martyrdom or oppression.
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>>2450461And therefore we come to a conclusion that the hearts of men are stiffened and that they are unworthy of judging mens hearts for they have no mercy and are not fit to receive any.
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>>2450465And they know not of Gods laws but are even as the jews and play the lawyers.
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>>2450461>>2450465>>2450466Can someone translate this I'm ETL
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>>2450469He's using archaic grammar to sound smart/Biblical
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joe biden: MINESOOOOTAAAAAAA
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I JUST GOT A SPOTIFY AD ABOUT MORMONISM DOCTOOOOOOOOS
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>>2450497gigachad activities
that relic has the holy spirit in it