I dislike Japanese culture. It's a radically atomized, isolating culture, it's concept of work is unhealthy and spiritually poisonous, and it's view of sexuality and pleasure is odious. These are among many more issues I have with Japan. They are aspects o

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On Japanese Art Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 04:52:54 №2425263 [Quote]

I dislike Japanese culture. It's a radically atomized, isolating culture, it's concept of work is unhealthy and spiritually poisonous, and it's view of sexuality and pleasure is odious. These are among many more issues I have with Japan. They are aspects of its society that mirror the West, but I believe Japan experiences these things more intensely.
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Despite this, I do have an admiration for some Japanese art. I think the reason for this is that Japanese art functions outside and in spite of Japanese culture, while Western art traditionally functions inside Western culture. What I mean is that much of Japanese art concerns and is in critique of the ills of Japanese culture, at least the variety that I enjoy. It deals with themes of loneliness, frustration, maturation, technological fatigue, and other similar things. Notice that these aren't just aspects of the human condition, they are things inflicted upon the people by Japanese culture. So, the art I'm talking about is often a legitimate critique of modern Japanese culture. It is, thus, made for the betterment of the consumer of the art.
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This is different modern from Western art. It is often a critique of traditional Western culture, which is illegitimate, as Western Tradition is ontologically superior to modernity.
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It is also different from traditional Western art, which was made both out of love for the West, and for its betterment. So, like Japanese art, it is made for the betterment of the consumer.

chadsigma!lr8RjtFfLU WsVxG4dR 11/19/25 (Wed) 04:58:29 №2425271 [Quote]

I dislike how eastern culture and media (Japanese, Korean)are put on a pedestal, as if it is better than the west's, when it is literally no different, if not worse in some regards, in terms of being degenerate.

Chud hDs8kBRQ 11/19/25 (Wed) 04:59:57 №2425273 [Quote]

In which time period are you comparing the cultures? I think you might be comparing post-1945 Jap culture with pre-1800 western culture which doesnt make a lot of sense.

Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 05:00:59 №2425276 [Quote]

>>2425273
My main point here isn't the comparison, I'm just using the comparison to try and explain my point better.

Chud hDs8kBRQ 11/19/25 (Wed) 05:00:59 №2425277 [Quote]

>>2425271
It might be worse in some regards but in most, imo, it is less degenerated. I use degenerated, because the culture itself has changed for the worse.

Chud KrcnkYNv 11/19/25 (Wed) 05:09:53 №2425287 [Quote]

Japanese art is overrated. There are aspects I like about Jap society and their art isn't one of them.

Chud KrcnkYNv 11/19/25 (Wed) 05:11:14 №2425291 [Quote]

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Even setting aside the degeneracy, it often times just looks ugly. How am I supposed to find this hot?

Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 05:17:32 №2425298 [Quote]

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I hopped onto my computer to draw this diagram like a schizo to illustrate my point. To preface, I mean "society" in an institutional sense in this case. In the West, art functions as a part of society as an institution. This used to mean it was part of the church, or maybe government. They both affect one another, and disseminate onto the people. This is good when Western society is in a state of moral virtue, but bad when it is in decline as it is now.
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Japan, on the other hand, has art made by people who are effected by society, but the art itself is not made as institutionally. I made a little goyslop tumor to represent mainstream anime and things like that that are institutional, i don't know exactly how that all fits into this but it's no good.

Chud LK^dDKSq 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:04:47 №2425331 [Quote]

No soy fan de epstein

Chud eiBK2Ib0 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:13:17 №2425337 [Quote]

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>>2425263 (OP)
Personally I believe Japanese art pre-1945 has little of merit. Much of it, including painting, calligraphy, bonsai, ceramics and poetry, was attempting to imitating Chinese art. These efforts were for the most part unsuccessful because the Japs had to rely on lower quality imports of woodblocks. There's also a touch more of degeneracy.

Post 1945 Japan produced some decent art. Mishima is an example of a creative novelist. You're definitely right about the critique of Japanese culture, but I don't think it's that widespread. Anime and hentai are much easier to come across.

Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:21:20 №2425364 [Quote]

>>2425337
I'm only talking about the modern stuff, 90s onward. I don't know anything about older Japanese art.

Capitan Soy'ron BXp7QIdu 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:24:12 №2425397 [Quote]

Do you remember the Japanese Christian Daimyo/Warlord that refused to accept to crusade against japan? If he saw what is happening today he would've accepted the popes offer to crusade against Japan

Capitan Soy'ron BXp7QIdu 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:24:26 №2425400 [Quote]

>>2425397
I forgot xis name sorry

Chud dbUzD2eb [VPN] 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:27:33 №2425433 [Quote]

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Most Japanese media cannot be compared to western media

Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:30:39 №2425451 [Quote]

>>2425433
that's basically my point. I was contrasting Japanese art to Western art. Gemmy toss btw.

Chud VB2o!pTZ 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:31:47 №2425459 [Quote]

Tranime is just escapism

Chud 708oaNeM 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:41:27 №2425501 [Quote]

Estos lolicerdos son muy criminal

Chud VB2o!pTZ 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:42:22 №2425511 [Quote]

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>Estos lolicerdos son muy criminal

Minnesotan Orthodox!!7PVmJUxNNM sXuivmgI 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:44:27 №2425530 [Quote]

>>2425459
Japanese culture breeds escapism, so a lot of anime is, but there is also Japanese art which serves specifically as a caution against escapism, which is another example of what I'm talking about.

Chud dbUzD2eb [VPN] 11/19/25 (Wed) 06:50:14 №2425587 [Quote]

>>2425530
Even those messages have some degeneracy in them

Chud VB2o!pTZ 11/19/25 (Wed) 07:01:54 №2425703 [Quote]

>>2425530
Yeah it's just a cycle of critiicism