AussieGOD 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 07:24:15 â„– 2417790 [Quote]
Fuck it deleted most of what I wanted to say
AussieGOD 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 07:24:30 â„– 2417791 [Quote]
To conclude. I don't believe paganism is capable of transforming society in any meaningful way long term, and it has been a lost faith for far too long with far too little knowledge of it to bring it back. In addition the practitioners of it tend to not fully believe in it themselves and its existence is justified by them as them wanting an ethno religion. Most of them don't take the time to understand Christianity outside of a very modern secular context, and tend to only be familiar with Protestantism or possibly Catholicism but very rarely Eastern Orthodoxy which actually is probably something they would be much more fond of as it tends to be ethno religious in nature. If they were very familiar with it they would come to understand things like race are probably one of the things God is more willing to let us figure out on our own. If he wanted to permanently remove it from existence He would have said or done something that would have addressed it when it directly, but if you read the Bible especially the Old Testament it specifically warns against trusting foreigners. I would like them to become more familiar with the eastern Versions of Christianity
AussieGOD 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 07:24:47 â„– 2417792 [Quote]
>>2417791 Here's the conclusion. I don't spell check btw
Chud uGqJwkcg 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:05:14 â„– 2417883 [Quote]
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nabbv !!pLk0GoOer2 ce7I11yY [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:06:26 â„– 2417887 [Quote]
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AussieGOD 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:09:36 â„– 2417900 [Quote]
>>2417898 Skimming it I agree completely, I had a 4 part thing to post but it didn't save it
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:10:33 â„– 2417901 [Quote]
even then its not worth catechizing other people when you yourself are new to Christianity. these online debates go nowhere
AussieGOD 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:11:19 â„– 2417906 [Quote]
>>2417901 Not entirely new but new to orthodoxy yes. I'm not a debate guy but I wanted to put my thoughts out there
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:13:57 â„– 2417908 [Quote]
>>2417791 >I don't believe paganism is capable of transforming society This mostly stems from the fact that paganism is internally contradictory. Also as you stated there is little to nothing of it left and what is left was preserved by Christian monks observing cultural practices of random people ironically. And beyond there was never like a "germanic" or "slavic" paganism as effectively every other tribe had a different rituals and belifies, so it isn't even race-based, but tribe-based.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:18:18 â„– 2417928 [Quote]
>>2417908 This as well. Trying to modernise a dead, barely understood and often contradictory non organised faith is basically impossible. It's like how Hinduism sort of has priests but the local "faiths" or different practices of locals in one area often contradict
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:18:55 â„– 2417931 [Quote]
>>2417928 its not even "dead"; its basically forgotten to history.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:22:14 â„– 2417944 [Quote]
>>2417931 Half forgotten. It isn't traditional in any real sense because it hasn't been practiced for millennia and it would basically have no theology. I find that a lot of pagans tend to not really seek truth but instead just want an ethno religion. Wether Christ was truly God matters little to them bc they don't actually care for the most part
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:23:17 â„– 2417951 [Quote]
>>2417944 Yeah, that's why I say that most of them are just atheists who don't like all degenerate shit, but then they forget that if atheism is true there is no actual reason to be opposed to the degenerate shit.
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:28:18 â„– 2417972 [Quote]
>>2417944 agreed. its why they are cringe; they arent genuine.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:31:10 â„– 2417982 [Quote]
>>2417951 True as well. It lacks real belief and becomes a degenerate cesspool which is why it feels like neo pagans tend to be a bit more odd
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:32:30 â„– 2417985 [Quote]
>>2417951 >>2417982 they basically interpret their religion however they want to. there are no rules, so they construct their own beliefs (which usually end up leading to degeneracy and deceit)
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:33:03 â„– 2417986 [Quote]
>>2417972 Something portuslav said was that when he tried to get into paganism he really looked at the faiths and saw that Christianity is just objectively true.
Chud uo2cEqNc 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:36:17 â„– 2417995 [Quote]
>>2417992 Positive christians in the big 25
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:38:53 â„– 2418001 [Quote]
>>2417992 I'm an ethnonationalist admittedly, I will say, national socialism itself isn't anti Christian. Modern Nazism definitely is. I'm an ethnonationalist, corporatist
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:43:39 â„– 2418021 [Quote]
>>2418001 loving your country, being against people that hate you, and being against miscegenation are just parts of common sense and cultural identity. in fact, dispersing into a gentile population was the punishment to Northern Israel for their apostasy.
< the problem comes when we take idols and other things into our faith, such as a political ideology that clearly goes against what God says.
< you cannot possibly refute how the Aryan ideology goes against Christian teaching, and we should not forget about the martyrs who died under Nazi occupation.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:45:48 â„– 2418026 [Quote]
>>2418021 Would you mind explaining what you mean by Aryan ideology? Im a bit confused
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:46:29 â„– 2418028 [Quote]
>>2418001 Also I'm not exactly a national socialist either bc larping is gay. I am interested in their economic ideas doe
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:47:21 â„– 2418034 [Quote]
>>2418001 Being nationalist itself is good and I'd say even pro-Christian, but letting the nation or race become an idol is bad both for your and your nation.
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:48:25 â„– 2418038 [Quote]
>>2418026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryanism >>2418028 if their economic ideas dont cause any harm to the faith, then theres nothing wrong with it as far as im concerned. thats something that should be kept in the realm of politics rather than religion imo
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:49:54 â„– 2418041 [Quote]
>>2418034 Making an idol of it is not wise I agree. But I will say the modern era and its disaster proves that you must heavily emphasise that a nation was solely created for ITS people and nobody else's. Every European state should be an ethno state including the ones outside Europe
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:53:03 â„– 2418048 [Quote]
>>2418041 agreed. blending a bunch of people who are unfamiliar to each others cultures together has been disastrous socially.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:53:13 â„– 2418049 [Quote]
>>2418038 I could be wrong but I'm not sure they ever explicitly said they were the master race. I'm a race realist and I feel it's fair to acknowledge that no civilization has contributed more than Europeans and that many groups tend to have significantly lower iqs and physical strength. I believe in equality in dignity which is a bit different from the modern view. Even in heaven there are hierarchies. Why would it be any different on earth? It's hell that has not distinction and is egalitarian
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:55:06 â„– 2418051 [Quote]
>>2418038 Well as long as an economic model doesn't promote usury or stealing it is fine from a religious standpoint.
>>2418041 I don't think that is realistically possible anymore due to how heccin diverse these countries have become. But what is possible is enforcing an unified language, religion and a cultural identity. Immigration itself isn't bad as long as the person who is immigrating is willing to completely assimilate into the land he was traversing in on religion, language, culture etc. Historically empires like Rome, Byzantium and Russia were quite successful despite containing within themselves dozens if not hundreds of different ethnic groups because they projected an unified cultural and national identity and once this is achieved you can then push for a racial identity among those groups.
nabbv !!pLk0GoOer2 ce7I11yY [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:55:51 â„– 2418054 [Quote]
>>2418041 why an ethnostate instead of guest workers retard
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 08:57:29 â„– 2418057 [Quote]
>>2418051 Rome only fell because it had a mass of people immigrating in who were not assimilating and who were not willing to assimilate.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:00:34 â„– 2418058 [Quote]
>>2418051 It might take a decade or two to get rid of them but it is completely possible. You just have to incentivise them leaving and cut out the human rights garbage. Assimilation isn't really something that you can do. An African cannot become a European simply because he was born on its soil. Blood is what ties you to a people. It's the only consistent way to look at it.
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:02:07 â„– 2418061 [Quote]
>>2418058 Oh for Africans for sure and as you say just cutting the gibs will make them flee, but what I was referring to was like a Pole living in Germany or an Austrian living in France.
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:04:45 â„– 2418068 [Quote]
>>2418049 i mean, they pretty much did say that the Aryans rule over humanity.
< regarding race superiority, i already stated that I agree in the position that miscegenation has always been viewed as a punishment or a great loss to a people. still though, theres no reward in having pride based on your lineage.
< we all bear likeness in Christ, we all descend from Adam, and God has dominion over all of creation. id have to disagree in the position that there are designated castes of people based on race because the Truth was for all people; rich or poor, free or enslaved, black or white.
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:04:50 â„– 2418069 [Quote]
>>2418061 Also I think that certain native groups in the middle east and north Africa like Assyrians and Copts are capable of assimilating, as there are quite a few of them in the west and they don't seem to cause any problems.
Microvariant !258GEMAV.. iaUXFTy8 [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:07:00 â„– 2418076 [Quote]
>>2418051 agreed
>>2418057 kinda like what we see in the modern world
>>2418058 >>2418061 tsmt
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:08:33 â„– 2418085 [Quote]
>>2418069 At the same time though they should be in the lands of their ancestors. I like them and I know many myself but that's their home.
Chud 1Rn77ciN [VPN ] 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:10:37 â„– 2418095 [Quote]
>>2418061 I mean generally I want to make sure all the peoples of Europe are kept as ethnically intact as possible, I think we can let America and Australia be the European immigration place
SUPER SAGE !31W25I3IPM ch6trboU 11/17/25 (Mon) 09:18:52 â„– 2418116 [Quote]
>>2418085 I think they are perfect cases for how good Christianity as at preserving cultural identities as these two groups have truly ancient written records (Egyptians as Copts and Assyrians) and despite living under a hostile occupation for 1000+ years they still are a distinct ethnic and cultural group.